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Poison oak & poison ivy
« on: February 08, 2018, 09:10:09 AM »
To all you sawyers out there that cut their own trees to mill, how do you deal with the poison oak and ivy.  My property is covered with and it seems like I have a continuous case.  Are there any old school remedies. Are there any suggestions on how to clear the property of this menace.  I have 3 boys that run all over the place but it seems that I am the only one that has issues. I wear gloves and long sleeve's but during the summer it is just to hot to dress like a bee keeper. Any advice would be great.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 09:15:28 AM »
Rule #1 , NEVER burn it!
When you burn it the oil becomes vapor and can be inhaled getting in your lungs/airway which can be fatal!
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 09:25:54 AM »
The last time I had poison ivy on my arm I used a stiff scrub brush on the blisters then bleach it's gona burn like the dickens but the poison ivy was gone the next day
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Re: Poison oak & poison ivy
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 09:26:23 AM »
DONT TOUCH NUTTIN HAIRY!
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 09:27:11 AM »
Check out health food stores or natural food/remedy stores, my wife used to go there and buy a bottle of pills with the name "Poison Oak" on the label. Don't know if you can still get it or not, haven't seen any of it in over 20 years. Have no need for it here as poison oak doesn't live here.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 09:28:43 AM »
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Re: Poison oak & poison ivy
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2018, 09:39:12 AM »
Aside from spending loads of money on chemicals just get some goats they will eat the stuff and depending on what kinda goats you get, the bigger the goat the higher it can reach. You can also harness train a goat and will pull around 200lbs so you boys could start there own goat racing league. There also good for meat, cheese milk and as pets. I've found an over mix of Roundup, 2,4D and bush-b-gone very effective on killing the ivy and keeping it dead.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2018, 09:44:17 AM »
Don't know if it's true, but I've heard that if the goats eat the poison oak/poison ivy and you drink their milk you will become immune.   
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Re: Poison oak & poison ivy
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 09:53:07 AM »
I am highly allergic to it.  "Leaves of three, let it be".  I found that if I take Benadryl or OTC antihistamine, it doesn't bother me so bad.  It will make you drowsy, so you got to be extra careful while using equipment and tools.  Sometimes, it so bad, I just go to the ER or Dr. and get a shot.  As a teen, we used to pull on vines going up into a tree to run squirrels out of their nest.  Big mistake!  And be careful what you put on the campfire.  the PI smoke can be very potent.  Dogs running in the woods are like PI paint brushes when you pet them. 

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Re: Poison oak & poison ivy
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2018, 09:56:59 AM »
I am highly allergic to it.  "When I see leaves of three, I let it be".

Lots of plants have 3 leaves but poison ivy has a chunk
missing on one of the leaves. Or an indent.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 09:58:11 AM »
Don't know if it's true, but I've heard that if the goats eat the poison oak/poison ivy and you drink their milk you will become immune.

I must have drank goat milk one time from a goat that ate some money.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2018, 10:07:18 AM »
Don't know if it's true, but I've heard that if the goats eat the poison oak/poison ivy and you drink their milk you will become immune.

I must have drank goat milk one time from a goat that ate some money.


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Re: Poison oak & poison ivy
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2018, 10:34:22 AM »
Did you know it takes 3 goats months to clear a blackberry patch, but only 15 minuets to strip all of your apple trees 😤
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2018, 11:52:09 AM »
Oh, the summer of 1988. I was the field crew chief for a research project measuring oaks in California oak-grass woodlands. Poison oak surrounded nearly every tree. All of the crew members got poison oak at some point in the study.

What worked for us to reduce the incidence:

     Protection - long sleeves, gloves,
                       removed before entering the vehicles
                       and washed separately from all other clothing.
     Washing contacted skin with COLD water only - no soap - rinse then scrub with a paper towel
     Rinsing washed skin with isopropyl alcohol
     Some folks used Tecnu with mostly good results.

Though I have not used it, some folks recommend Bentoquatam (a form of bentonite clay) containing oak-ivy blockers. IvyBlock is one brand.

Another treatment that works for poison ivy is to rub suspected contacted areas with crushed jewelweed (Impatiens capensis) leaves found at the boundaries of wetlands.

We never found a non-prescription remedy better than calamine lotion - possibly improved by sipping goat's milk.

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 12:30:30 PM »
Spray it with Milestone, mix a 1/2 once per 25 gallons of water.  Buy it from your county weed board and during the spring they with cost share it depending on how much land you have.  It will kill it quick, like four hours the leaves will be drooping already.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 06:56:48 PM »
Wash with Tecnu, I keep a bottle in the truck. Excellent stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 08:13:01 PM »
I LOVE TECNU!!!!!!!!!!!  I keep a quart bottle of it in the bathroom so I have it when I need it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2018, 10:14:11 PM »
Wearing long pants and sleeves only helps if you wash the clothes immediately and wash yourself after handling the clothes.  Many people think poison ivy spreads.  I have a friend who gets it all the time.  She said it was spreading and I told her, no youre continually being exposed to it.  It may have been on the dogs, dogs got it on furniture, etc.  Take a good hot soapy shower to remove the oil.  My grandma taught me to use white vinegar.  After being exposed to poison ivy, I will soak a paper towel in vinegar and wipe down arms and legs.  I have not gotten poison ivy in many years.
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I must have drank goat milk one time from a goat that ate some money.

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 10:29:43 PM »
I've ate it but it makes my butt itch.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2018, 11:28:49 PM »
I do not know how common it is, but I am one of the lucky ones, I could get naked and roll around in it with no ill affects. My dad was the same way, and his sisters were highly allergic to it, as was mine.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2018, 05:37:43 AM »
Poison oak and poison ivy are two different species.  Oak and ivy in the west are different species than in the east so you have four different species total that are poison.  The western stuff is a lot stronger than the eastern version.  Tech-Nu works great for eastern but I've heard it's not as good for western.
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2018, 07:47:35 AM »
Some of you guys talk about that stuff vining up the trees.  :o
I just have the poison ivy. I have some on the edge of he woods. Thank God I own the woods. I have really been trying to kill it back. We,my Father and I would only spray it,total vegation killer,every few years. I Have been right at it. If it's short and green,it gets sprayed. Short as one foot tall. I might,I said might,be gaining on it. Hard stuff to kill in the woods.
I bought back some of The Farm. There was a so called stone wall that was covered in that stuff. There was a few bushes,but it was on the edge of the road and a field trying to go back to a forest. I kept that wall barren for 3 years. If it was green,it got sprayed. It did not matter if I knew it was grass,it got sprayed. I got rid of the poison ivy and it's been at least 5 years of mowing and has not came back.
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2018, 07:53:14 AM »
Starmac,

   I'm like you but I get it on me or my clothes and never know I have been in it then my wife gets it. I think it would be easier to live with if I just got it, :(
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2018, 08:09:02 AM »
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Around here you will find vines large enough that you could put the main trunk on your saw and cut it, the vines will go up 30' and branch out 20' to the sides hanging clusters of berries that look like small grapes - and I am not exaggerating. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2018, 08:23:16 AM »
I sawed some ash logs which were covered with poison ivy.  Customer got it from head to toe, his wife was telling me about it, too much information.  :-X :-X
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2018, 09:22:41 AM »
Poison oak and ivy are among the easiest vines to kill. I usually use Brush Killer mixed with water. In a week the leaves are gone at which point I cut the vines with a machete then leave them alone. In a year they rot and fall out of the trees.

The rash is caused by the sap which is called urushiol.  Urushiol is actually used in Japan as a wood finish.  It does not come off with water or bleach anymore than pine sap does. It does come off with turpentine, mineral spirits or if you're in a hard spot use gasoline. Tecnu is nothing more than creamy mineral spirits.

I am as allergic as anyone and encounter poison ivy frequently. I don't go out of my way to let it touch me but wipe my arms with mineral spirits at lunch and the end of the day.
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2018, 09:54:51 AM »
I've ate it but it makes my butt itch.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2018, 11:07:11 AM »
Used to get it all the time.  Now I use Technu whenever I am even near the ivy and have pretty much stopped getting it.  Also, each winter on one of those real cold days I get bundled up and go out with a machete for couple hours to chop anything I find at the base of trees.  Used to have the big hairy vines in many areas and now only new trying to get started. Wash the machete with bleach before hang up for next year.  During the summer I take a walk around the perimeter of the yard, fields and paddocks to spray anything I see with round up.

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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2018, 01:46:55 PM »
DONT TOUCH NUTTIN HAIRY!

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I have all kinds of poison ivy on my property.  Regular weed killer from garden sprayer will kill it.  We're not on a quest to wipe it out, just from areas we frequent- edges of the woods, trails etc.  I assumed I wasn't allergic to it, but 3 years ago while doing firewood with ivy under my feet, reaching down and picking up chunks to go in the splitter, I got it.  On my forearms that itched like the dickens.  It spread a bit.  So I got Prednisone prescribed by the dermatologist.  When i get logs with poison ivy vines on them, which are dead at that point but still probably have oil, I use my gloves to remove the vines from the logs.  Put them somewhere out of the way to decompose or landfill.  I got a few itchy bumps last summer, but not sure if it was a little ivy or not.  Wasn't bad, so I just let it run it's course whatever it was.  Since i got it the first time I keep a bottle of that poison ivy liquid soap in my truck and if I think I've touched some, I use that stuff.
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2018, 05:34:00 PM »
you guy s talking about poisen ivy ,,i think i  just got it,,,  i can look at it and catch it ,,i hate it
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2018, 08:58:55 AM »
I never got it as a kid. Since I was 23 it tries to cover me up...we get an oral solution from a pharmacy in Shawnee ok la. That is made from the oil I think. It really helps me to not get it these days. I used to drink a tea made from green sycamore bark that helped to dry up the rash.


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