Winch (gathered wheel chair and scooter motors)

[Kbeitz]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

[fishfighter]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

I am still using the chair controller on my mill. If the motors are 24V and the controller is 24V, you will have to supply 24V for it to work. My way around that is that I use two 12v lawn tractor batteries. I am using two motors on my mill. One to raise/lower the head and the other for tracking. The controller is a joy stick. To use the motors, I just engage or disengage the gear box I want to use. Those lawn batteries last a couple days sawing till I have to charge them.



 



 

 

[Georgia088]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

I ordered one like you have. Any idea how to make the speed control on the scooter work until it comes in? How does it connect to the motor?

Thanks

[Georgia088]

Thanks fish. I like your setup with the chain, but I don't have any. I do have the plenty of cable though  I will probably run mine on it. Where do you find that chain used.  I'm sure you can order it but what do they come on used?

Thanks!

[pineywoods]

You will find that the controller for scooter and wheelchair are much more than just speed control. Lots of safety features built in.
self check diagnostics, soft start, soft stop, brake actuation, fwd/reverse, max speed both fwd and rev, battery condition, joystick position. Example..If the joystick is even slightly off the neutral position or the throttle is not in stop position, on power up, shut down and lock the brake. The wheelchair controllers won't power up unless 2 motors are hooked up and operational. Do a search, there's lots of info on here...Another thought. wheelchair/scooter motors have built in gear reduction are sealed, rated for continuous duty, and are long life.

[Georgia088]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

So, with the speed control that you have does it matter much what gear sizes you have to move the sawhead back and forth? Because regardless of the gear size you should be able to adjust speed.  Right?

Thanks!

[Kbeitz]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

So, with the speed control that you have does it matter much what gear sizes you have to move the sawhead back and forth? Because regardless of the gear size you should be able to adjust speed.  Right?

Thanks!

You kinda want to get it geared in the middle so you have room to play with
the speed. Also you cant use just the joystick. There needs to be a control
box somewhere. The joystick is just the switches that controls the control
box. Did you get everything? Even with the control off e-bay you will still
need at least a couple toggle switches to tell it when to go and in what
direction.

[Georgia088]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

So, with the speed control that you have does it matter much what gear sizes you have to move the sawhead back and forth? Because regardless of the gear size you should be able to adjust speed.  Right?

Thanks!

You kinda want to get it geared in the middle so you have room to play with
the speed. Also you cant use just the joystick. There needs to be a control
box somewhere. The joystick is just the switches that controls the control
box. Did you get everything? Even with the control off e-bay you will still
need at least a couple toggle switches to tell it when to go and in what
direction.

I am planning on using the scooter. It doesn't have directional control. It seems to only go forward and reverse. The gears and all come with it. I will try and post better pictures of what I have tonight. The two wheel chair motors are still connected to the tires. They are very old I would think. They only go in forward or reverse too.

Kbeitz, I also see where you used a wireless remote for a winch to move your power feed. How has it worked? I have one of those too that I may use.

[Kbeitz]

It works... More a show off toy... I'm so used to running the mill without
it that most of the time I don't use it. I have safety stop switches mounted
so I can just send my mill off for a cut and go a rip a few boards until it
gets done sawing. Then I send it home and carry my board away with out
any worry about what my carriage is doing. I wear the controller on a chain
around my neck. Most of the time I forget it's there or I forget to get it out
of my shop.

[Crusarius]

That gold thing on the end of the motor is the brake.

[Darrel]

So, can you use the speed control that came with the scooter (if it works)? Will that controller work for any of these motors I have? Or, is there something I need to check before I get it?

This is what I used for a speed control. Got it off E-bay...



 

Sure you can use it... It might be a joystick and hard to control.

So, with the speed control that you have does it matter much what gear sizes you have to move the sawhead back and forth? Because regardless of the gear size you should be able to adjust speed.  Right?

Thanks!

You kinda want to get it geared in the middle so you have room to play with
the speed. Also you cant use just the joystick. There needs to be a control
box somewhere. The joystick is just the switches that controls the control
box. Did you get everything? Even with the control off e-bay you will still
need at least a couple toggle switches to tell it when to go and in what
direction.

I am planning on using the scooter. It doesn't have directional control. It seems to only go forward and reverse. The gears and all come with it. I will try and post better pictures of what I have tonight. The two wheel chair motors are still connected to the tires. They are very old I would think. They only go in forward or reverse too.

Kbeitz, I also see where you used a wireless remote for a winch to move your power feed. How has it worked? I have one of those too that I may use.

Be very careful here, I once heard from a very reliable source (MagicMan, I think) that if we quote too much like this that the forum will run out of "Quote Fluid".

:D :D :D

[starmac]

So you put a huge honkin quote in your post as a warning, got to love it.

[POSTON WIDEHEAD]

50 Shades of Grey.  :

[Kbeitz]

It make it tough when your trying to answer one person.
That's why I quote someone.

[Georgia088]

Sorry. The pictures didn't save on the post.

[Georgia088]

 Sorry about the quoteathon.
I took some pics but it's hard to figure out how to post them from my phone.

I isolated the brushes in my winch motor to keep from having a short when the polarity is reversed to let head down. (Knocking on wood) it was easier than I thought and seems to be working fine (thanks piney). I used the wireless winch remote from a burned up hf winch to connect to the 1878 model winch that has been collecting dust for years.

Still contemplating how to use the scooter motor or wheel chair motor for the power feed. I ordered the speed control and took some more pics of what I've got. I think the brake may be limiting the scooter motor bc I can stall it with my hands when I grab the rubber wheels. I will take the brake off I guess and see how it does. I assume to use the gearbox you must seize one side so that the differential (maybe wrong word) will not switch power to other wheel? What's the easiest way to do this?

Thanks!


  

  

  

  

  

  

 

[Darrel]

It make it tough when your trying to answer one person.
That's why I quote someone.

Ya, I get it, I was just making an attempt to be funny.

[Kbeitz]

Wow... That's the first wheelchair motor I seen with a differential.
I hope you know by stopping one wheel you will double the speed
of the other wheel.

[Georgia088]

It's off of a scooter. But I can stall both wheels with my hands... I'm assuming the brakes are allowing me to do this? I havent had a chance to take it apart.

[fishfighter]

Thanks fish. I like your setup with the chain, but I don't have any. I do have the plenty of cable though  I will probably run mine on it. Where do you find that chain used.  I'm sure you can order it but what do they come on used?

Thanks!

Bought it at Tractor Supply. Could of bought it off ebay at half the price. Two 20' lengths was around $65. Gears were around $20 each. Using a number 40 chain and gears.

Oh, at first I was using a rope and took the tire off the rim. It worked, but kind of not smooth.



 

To swap over, I just used the tire hub and welded a gear on it. ;D



 



 

[Georgia088]

Fish
It looks like you work like me (blue can) lol.  So, the rope didn't work well?  I would think it would be similar to cable system.... I'm still thinking of using that instead because I have it.  I wonder if the pulleys on the lawn mower would run ok on the cable? 

Thanks!

[Crusarius]

That looks like nylon rope? That is not the best choice. Cotton would probably work better.

[Kbeitz]

I use 1/8 steel cable with two wraps around the 8" drive pulley.
240 hours on the mill with no problems. I would do it again.



 

[Crusarius]

What size is that pulley?

[Kbeitz]

What size is that pulley?

In the first line... 8"