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Tie Prices
« on: February 02, 2018, 03:37:31 PM »
What's tie prices in your area?  Standard length and switch ties.  Are you having any trouble selling?  Quotas? Maybe just on switch ties?  Give us the lowdown.
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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 07:08:06 PM »
Quotas are common still, so that means it'll be hard to impossible to sell ties to those buyers that are imposing the quotas.
Prices vary greatly from region to region.

If your thinking about sawing ties I will give you some advice. Don't.  Unless you have the following items. ...

1) fully hyd band mill or a circle mill (not a belsaw).
2) roll cases, the more the better.
3) loader, must be capable of picking up and carrying at least 6k lbs and be reliable enough to use everyday all day.
4) help and or automation.

Without these you will break yourself down while you go broke (I know I saw me do it)
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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 07:38:21 PM »
^^^what he said
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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 08:50:47 PM »
I have been getting $27.75 for 8'8'' 7x9.

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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 09:29:44 PM »
I have been getting $27.75 for 8'8'' 7x9.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 09:32:22 PM »
I have been getting $27.75 for 8'8'' 7x9.

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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 08:19:13 AM »
26$ for 8'8 thats 7x9. If its rejected 6$. That's delivered. 1$ discount if picked up semi load minimum.  Oak, hickory, mainly no more soft maple, sycamore, hackberry, of course no cottonwood or pine. There's others but it take all day to write.
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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 02:58:35 PM »
I've cut ties in the past, and have several loaders, and am well aware of the handling challenges.  I'm curious what the variation is across regions, mainly whether there's quotas and price differential.  There's several places here buying them.  Anyone cutting many switch ties?
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 04:38:10 PM »
oak, hickory, or any other hardwood. fob my sawmill. LOaded on a truck. My buyer is real good to me and he will come and buy half a truckload at a time.

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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 09:54:45 PM »
I've cut ties in the past, and have several loaders, and am well aware of the handling challenges.  I'm curious what the variation is across regions, mainly whether there's quotas and price differential.  There's several places here buying them.  Anyone cutting many switch ties?

Thats good, I have seen others think that sawing ties will make them rich. :D

Switch ties are special order only for us now. Don't get to saw many of um.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 08:09:00 PM »
 Koppers seems to be looking to buy more ties again, my buyer was out a week ago or so to let me know the price had increased again and he would like to buy some ties from us. We haven't sawed any in about a year because they were getting a bit hard to sell and we started running low on blocking for pallets. I believe the price he quoted me for hardwood 7x9x8'6" was $29.25 delivered to Muncy Pa.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 08:46:49 PM »
^^pretty good hey!  I'm at $23.28 for 7x9x8'6" FOB sawmill.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 08:49:23 PM »
 Where are yours going to 4x4?
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2018, 09:04:47 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2018, 09:15:41 PM »
Enjoy responsibly. ;)
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2018, 10:13:53 PM »
  :D you got a good trade deal worked out?
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 10:17:52 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2018, 11:24:30 PM »
Who was it that got into that mess when they were not treating ties, just painting them and such?  Maybe the replacement work for some of that is coming around?
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2018, 11:44:37 PM »
Koppers seems to be looking to buy more ties again, my buyer was out a week ago or so to let me know the price had increased again and he would like to buy some ties from us. We haven't sawed any in about a year because they were getting a bit hard to sell and we started running low on blocking for pallets. I believe the price he quoted me for hardwood 7x9x8'6" was $29.25 delivered to Muncy Pa.

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then called Modecraft. They made barber chairs and beauty salon equipment.
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Re: Tie Prices
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2018, 12:43:27 AM »
Southside logger. What are the buyers treating them with. I worked a couple of years rebuilding englewood yard in Houston. southern pacific treated all of their own ties there. I was under the assumption back then that all railraod companies either did, or paid those with the creosote plants to do it for them.
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