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« on: June 03, 2018, 08:25:18 AM »
While reading the post about the Devil's Walking Stick tree and the similar species from Asia, I began to wonder what the worst invasive plants folks deal with in their locations.

We have several that cause significant problems.  Cogan Grass, which is often spread by the county's mowing crews is spreading like an invading army around here.

Brazilian Pepper, just a little south of me has displaced a lot of native vegetation.  It does evidently make good tasting honey though.

Tropical Soda Apple has become problematic in pastures over the past several years.

In the lakes we have hydrilla and water hyacinths.  These two do provide good bass habitat.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2018, 09:23:11 AM »
Around here it's the City Transplant that causes the biggest problems.  
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Re: ?your area's worst invasive plant?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2018, 09:24:33 AM »
Privet Hedge.

Kudzu in some areas.

Chinese Tallow aka Popcorn tree.

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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2018, 09:30:14 AM »
Honeysuckle, buckthorn, multiflora rose, & box acer negundo.   Sometimes the order is different.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2018, 09:45:08 AM »
Multiflora rose (thank you DuPont family), Albizia julibrissin or Mimosa tree, and poison Hemlock. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2018, 09:58:21 AM »
Kudzu is the worst for us, but privet is bad to deal with as well. Japanese stiltgrass is rough on new seedlings, but once they get over the top after the first year they seem fine. We're getting oriental bittersweet moving in from our west as well as Chinese silvergrass. That silvergrass burns like gasoline and thrives with fire... and we got paulownia and tree of heaven and Johnson grass in fields , wisteria, .. definitely no shortage of invasive plants...

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2018, 11:24:23 AM »
Leafy spurge, erc, muskthistle, and water hemp on the farming/ranching side of life.  A lot more but most generally easier to contain. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2018, 11:39:35 AM »
This is interesting.  Ive never heard of box elder being invasive.
Here it is bush honeysuckle and Bradford pear, otherwise known as Callery pear.
Is it truly invasive if its expanding its territory due to climate change?  I would say not.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2018, 11:47:49 AM »
Honeysuckle, barberry, Mile A Minute and stiltgrass in central PA.  If you are in northern PA over 40% of all the forest is haycented fern
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2018, 12:01:09 PM »
Marijuana, government making it legal in the entire county this month . 
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2018, 01:39:52 PM »
I didnt know privet was invasive anywhere.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2018, 05:31:03 PM »
Numerous vines, and I don't know what many of them are. I've noticed a steady increase over the last 20 years or so. I read not long ago that increased CO2 in the atmosphere has increased the poison ivy population. I've noticed that, and I suspect the other vines are doing better also. There's one particular vine that's insidious. I have a hard time seeing it until it's taken over half a bush or tree. I don't use chemicals on my property, so they're all cut with a knife or machete. I don't go for perfection; just try to keep it manageable.

They make work harder also. Awhile ago I set a couple control points for a job. I took prospective leaf cover into account when setting them up. I go back to do some work, and a rats nest of vines I neglected to notice, blocked visibility, and were too high and tangled in the trees to remove. I had to go play in traffic to get the job done  :bangshead:

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2018, 06:22:21 PM »
In open ground around here it's palmer pig weed and sickle pod that is coming on strong - both nasty weeds, and being nicely assisted by just about every combine in the south.  Now there is a new reason to call Gleaners the "silver seeder".  
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2018, 07:15:16 PM »
Autumn olive, Ailanthus, stiltgrass, multiflora rose (what is the DuPont connection Roxie?), barberry, some kudzu

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2018, 07:19:44 PM »
Privet.  Privet.  Privet.  Marestail, pokeweed, tree of heaven, northerners (the wrong kind), multiflora rose

And privet.

A lot of people around here have trouble with johnsongrass, but I think it's because they don't control it.
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2018, 07:23:05 PM »
Almost forget a real nuisance - NUTSEDGE.


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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2018, 08:57:46 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2018, 02:22:13 PM »
Japanese barberry smiley_thumbsdown

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 04:18:29 PM »
Not in my specific location, but NZ has a big problem with invasive Pine trees of all things. To the extent that Lodgepole pine is now banned. Large areas of the South Island high country (open tussock land) is being taken over by pine trees, and it's costing millions to try and control them. 

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2018, 09:01:25 PM »
Himalayan Blackberry. Total pain in the butt. Starts to overtake everything and will kill small Fir and Cedar trees by overcrowding and literally dragging them to the dirt.

We're just starting to experiment with arial spraying using a DJI drone. My go to is a Bobcat and a brushhog, or a Kubota KX-161 with a flail mower, but the drone gets to places without a trail.

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2018, 08:14:35 AM »
That must be a pretty potent herbicide for a small drone to be able to carry enough to be effective. 

In my earlier post, I did not mention the melaleuca and Australian Pines which are pervasive south of where I live by a little. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2018, 10:47:57 AM »
For me, I fall in the bittersweet category.

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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2018, 12:14:01 PM »
Japanese stilt grass, Microstegium vimineum
Mile-a-minute vin,e Persicaria perfoliata
Smart/Knot weed,  Polygonum sp.
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2018, 12:48:06 PM »
Giant salvinia on the lakes and tallow trees are coming on.  South of me , yaupon

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2018, 03:09:34 PM »
Multiflora rose & Canadian thistle.  At least the goats eat the rosebushes, so we are making progress.  Sadly, they wont do more than nip the buds off the thistle.   :(
 
Ive decided I like autumn olive.  Fixes nitrogen on our poor pastures and puts up leaves early giving forage for our goats.  Its only recently made it to our area, but I see a lot more now that I know what it is and look for it.  Looking forward to trying the berries this fall.   :)
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2018, 04:28:22 PM »
Yup - Autum olive is a healer of the dirt for sure.  I even appreciate my Johnson Grass, learn to manage it and the cows do great on it.  

I don't know about goats but you can get cows to eat thistle, they learn to work it from the bottom up so the points don't jab them, about the same if not more nutrition than alfalfa with that giant tap root.  
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2018, 08:35:07 PM »
I forgot to mention Lantana camara (our worst non-native Lantana).  It's green berries are very toxic to animals and people.  The leaves can kill livestock.  I have seen cows that have eaten the leaves and live but most times, the skin under their white hair will sluff off and they will be sick for some time.  This stuff can take over old citrus groves and establishes quickly in pastures.
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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2018, 06:54:41 AM »
On the autumn olive, we had a berry buyer from NYC here a few years ago who bought about 35,000 lbs of berries and took them up there to make smoothies and other things, I think they were calling them lycoberries, might still have a webpage.  Don't think it took off or at least that was the last of it for here. They are a good antioxidant. One of our extension agents has said "If we ever offer a non native with berries as a wildlife food, RUN!"

I used to have a picture of a before and after of a erosion gulley "saved" by kudzu with the proud agent standing in front of his handiwork ::). I think it swallowed him moments later.

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« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2018, 08:11:20 AM »
I don't know about goats but you can get cows to eat thistle,


That would make sense as we don't see thistle in the pastures, just road ditches and crop fields.  I get along fine with Jonson grass also.

Goats will eat stems on multiflora rose and blackberry up to the size of a pencil, thorns and all, and I call Honey Locust "goat crack" the way they go after it.  However, I think they got to be more selective in the crop fields before planting and only took the buds off the thistles.  I've just been terrified of thistle taking over and have attacked it with gusto.  ;D

About half the invasives I see are great forage looking for something to eat it.  ;)  
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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2018, 08:50:28 AM »
Privet...privet. The local honeysuckle take up with the privet to make a mess that a rabbit couldn't wiggle through. Have to dig the stuff out, cut it off at ground level, and just makes more sprouts. 
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I was going to say "yankees" until I reread the title.  :D 8)
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I would like to see about 500,000 Yankees head down that way. ;D And stay.
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I thought the invasion into Texas was more from the land of fruit and nuts.  
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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2018, 04:42:18 PM »
Privet...privet. The local honeysuckle take up with the privet to make a mess that a rabbit couldn't wiggle through. Have to dig the stuff out, cut it off at ground level, and just makes more sprouts.
You're right about that.  Honeysuckle and privet together is a bad mess.
Treat those cut privet stumps immediately with anything that has triclopyr and they'll be gone for good.  Spraying the whole mess with some sort of Triclopyr will kill it pretty well too, but it takes more stuff and you're left with a big brown mess.

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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2018, 04:43:02 PM »
I would like to see about 500,000 Yankees head down that way. ;D And stay.
Our grit wall will keep that from happening.  :D
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2018, 05:30:07 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2018, 07:12:51 PM »
multiflora rose (what is the DuPont connection Roxie?)


On a visit to Longwood Gardens which was owned by Pierre S. DuPont in the 1800's, I learned that it was brought from Asia to establish hedges for livestock.  It was further used as root stock for other roses. 
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« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2018, 09:00:45 PM »
I would like to see about 500,000 Yankees head down that way. ;D And stay.
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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2018, 12:03:15 AM »
Around here it's the City Transplant that causes the biggest problems.  
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