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Please find attached the most current EAB Quarantine area map. You will need Acrobat Reader for this PDF file.

Update: Current Quarantine area info (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/EAB_Quarantine_20May05_125558_7.pdf)

You can obtain current EAB information packs by contacting Erin using the information below.

Erin N Stiers
PPQ Officer -  Emerald Ash Borer Project

1422 West Chicago Blvd
Tecumseh, Michigan 49286
Office: 810.844.2780
Cell: 734.732.0026
Fax: 517.423.6453

There have also been 21 people caught and fined for taking firewood from Essex County, Ontario where the quarentine area is isolated in Canada.

Canada Food Inspection Agency Info on the emerald ash borer  (http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/plaveg/protect/pestrava/ashfre/survenqe.shtml)

One thing I learned new today, and it makes lots of sense. Its not just ash firewood that is quarantined, its ALL firewood. The average person can't tell the difference from ash and other species and law enforcement certainly should not have to pick through a whole load of firewood looking for sticks of ash. So, ALL firewood!

Yip, that's the way I'de handle it too.

Thanks for the info Jeff.

Jeff, or anyone,

  What is the likelyhood we will see the EAB here in western Pa.? I have  a 5 acre field that I have let the ash come up in, I didnt brush hog them. I was hoping that they would be good shade trees and create some interest visually. I am now concerned that they may get infested.  What's the likelyhood? Thanks Reid

Reid,
This link will should answer a lot of your questions.  http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/forestry/fpm_invasives_EAB.aspx

Thanks Chet, Reid :P

 I wonder if any of the forum members  from the Michigan Dept of Agriculture could respond to what I heard from a local official? That  being that all the money for ash removal has dried up at this time. And the quarantened trees in Petoskey will have to remain at least over summer until the new fiscal year starts.  I personally hate rumers and half truths and would like to hear from someone in the know. I can't believe the state would not take this issue seriously enough to give the Ag. Dept. the money they need.

I'll bring this to their attention Dana and have them get back with us.

Personally, I cannot respond to this because this question is for the Michigan Department of Agriculture, and I work for the USDA.  However, I would suggest that you visit the MDA website, look around, and maybe find a phone number to call someone who can help you within MDA.  www.michigan.gov/mda

I spoke with someone in the know at the MDA. That person said they are waiting on funding and hoped to hear back on that matter soon.

Tri- State Emerald Ash Borer Workshop. April 9.  Pokagon State Park, Angola, IN.

For inforamtion on how to attend visit: http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~news/story.php?id=3051

REYNOLDSBURG, Ohio (March 24, 2005) - The Ohio Department of Agriculture (ODA) will target areas in and around Toledo in Lucas County for Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) eradication designed to eliminate this destructive insect. To help educate local residents about the program, ODA will host several open houses where residents can talk directly with the department's plant pest control staff, learn about EAB, and view maps of the local eradication zones. Citizens may visit anytime during designated hours, at the following locations:

Location:   Oregon Firehouse #2, 1102 South Wheeling Road, Oregon, Ohio
                  Thursday, March 31, 2005, 6-8 p.m.

Location:   Point Place Public Library, 2727 117th Street, Toledo, Ohio
                  Thursday, April 7, 2005, 6-8 p.m.

Location:   Ottawa Park Nature Education Building, Kenwood Boulevard, Toledo, Ohio
                  Thursday, April 14, 2005, 6-8 p.m.

Location:   The former Martin School, 10 South Holland-Sylvania Road, Toledo, Ohio
                  Thursday, April 21, 2005, 6-8 p.m.

Throughout the fall of 2004, Emerald Ash Borer infestations were discovered in or around the above areas. ODA will soon begin eradication, and all marked ash trees, whether they are visibly infested or not, within one-half mile of an infested tree will be destroyed.

Areas where eradication cannot be completed by May when EAB adults begin to emerge will be subject to "suppression cuts." Ash trees within 200 yards of an infested tree will be cut down and destroyed. Select ash trees within the next 200 yards will be girdled, or wounded by removing a ring of bark, making the tree more attractive to the pest. All girdled trees and remaining ash trees within the department's half-mile eradication zone will be destroyed at a later date.

Suppression cuts, as supported by the National Emerald Ash Borer Science Advisory Panel, will be used to eliminate the heavily infested ash trees in Toledo that will not be removed before adult emergence. This will help reduce the EAB population and alleviate the infestation growth in Lucas County until the department can fully eradicate the area. ODA is planning to eradicate all of Ohio's known infestations, depending on the continuance of federal funding. Currently, ODA is fighting the pest in Oregon (Lucas County), North Baltimore (Wood County), and Pioneer (Williams County).

The department's eradication program is conducted under its authority in Ohio Revised Code Section 927.70 to control, eradicate, and prevent the spread of invasive species and prevent massive economic losses to Ohio's homeowners and nursery, timber, and tourism industries.

For more information about the open houses, call the department's Emerald Ash Borer hotline at
1-888-OHIO-EAB, or visit the Web site at www.ohioagriculture.gov. Eradication maps also are available online.

Anyone who lives near Petoskey Michigan may want to go to the informational meeting on the Emerald Ash Borer  which will be held tonight , April 5 2005 at the Emmet County Building at 6:30 PM

Keep us posted Dana, we hope you get some timely info there. :)

At the public meeting in Petoskey last night it was revealed there will not be a complete removal of all ash trees in the quaranteen area, ONLY the infected trees around each of the infected trees there will be a test area where the healthy trees will be girdled and monitored for the beetle. This is all due to budget cost. Nothing to  to do with last nights meeting, I have heard from someone in the know that the beetle has officially been found in Charlevoix County, just outside of the Boyne City limits. It appears to be a well established infestation that may have been herre for at least 5-6 years.  There will be several meetings in the near future for local gov. officials then of course the public meetings.

  The poorer economy faced by our nation and the State of MI is limiting what funding is available.  The controls and programs started in Ohio and Indiana have divided what money there was to go around.  Priority to eradication efforts have been given to what is being called "gateway" areas.  Since the spread of EAB within MI is still being identified the focus has come upon not letting it move naturally to other States or Countries.  The removal of trees that we know have the beetle may help to reduce populations in infested spots until more funding is available.  A lot of work is being done on research for trapping or controlling the insect with pesticide applications.  Another method we are trying to use is finding people or companies that would be interested in buying the ash materials produced from an eradication or containment action.  Pulp wood is the bulk of what is being removed, including trees with a 1" diameter.  Doesn't exactly make for good lumber but could possibly work for paper and mulch.  If the material is chipped to pieces with at least 2 sides of 1" or less in size the insect cannot use it to complete its life cycle.  Logs produced from a removal can be debarked, and slab wood can be chipped leaving a bark free log which can be trasported without fear of spreading the pest.
  Unfortunately the areas where a removal is necessary don't make access for machines easy.  A lot of the work cutting the trees must be done by hand.  So it becomes less attractive to a company that might have a use for the materials, when costs at removal are high. 
  Back to my initial point (sorry for my distraction).  At these spot infestations we call "Outliers," because they are outside of the generally infested SE MI region.  Infestations are caused by the un-natural (people) movement of infested ash wood or trees.  We are taking out the trees we know are positive for EAB.  By girdling other trees in the center of these areas we hope to create attractive, declining trees, that might keep the insect from spreading out and remaining in a central location.  Then after the adult EAB flight season we can remove these trees and re-evaluate the options for a full ash removal.
  I know that there are a few of us on the Forum trying to keep you informed and up to date, but we don't get back often to chat.  I really appreciate everyone helping to spread the word and seek out information on your own.  We will try to get in for messages more often.
Thanks!

Check out this report about the Newberry case.

www.miningjournal.net/news/story/0424202005_new01-n0424.asp

That story sure was not very responsible journalism. Look at the headline and then read the story.  They don't match. The headline screams one thing and the story does absolutely nothing to collaborate, only insinuate. Are there not any facts out there anywhere on this??

They do discuss the UP stuff, but it isn't the emphasis as you would think reading the headline.  I thought the article was interesting as it states that Michigan is trying to beef up its penalty system, which is something that really needs to happen.  But, online sources are what they are, so I know you have to take it with a grain of salt.

Hmm...as I read it, doesn't it sound like they did find some beetles up there?

"Fortunately in Newberry, the nearest ash tree was three miles away, two miles out of the beetle's usual range. In Gratiot County however, the tests proved positive.

"We did find some trap trees in the area with beetles and we found another pile nearby with 'D' (shaped) emergent markings," Rose said."

And then the guy said this too:  "We followed a tip. By the time we got there, there were actually beetles flying around," Rose said. "The wood was cut at least over the last winter and had viable larvae. We tried to treat the pile."

He sounds like a pretty reliable source, since apparently this Tom Rose guy is with the MDA.  Reading this article would lead me to believe that some of the bugs have made it up there, but it's not clear that they've actually gained any foothold.  Do others read this differently?   :P  It would be nice to find this Tom Rose's email, and maybe have him clear things up, since we're definitely an interested party!

Read it again.  They have the paragraphs broken up to confuse and sensationalize. Read the last sentence in the paragraph before. The subject is changed back to "In Gratiot County however, the tests proved positive."  it is then followed by "We did find some trap trees in the area with beetles and we found another pile nearby with 'D' (shaped) emergent markings," Rose said.", only spaced out.

He was referring to the gratiot site. This article breaks the paragraphs into making you think something else.  Stuff like that sickens me when its obviously done to sensationalize and "Make news"

I still cant figure out why there are stories but nothing to back them up. Seems like someone somewhere should have some facts and statistics. I went back to the MDA website to look for any tidbit of information that says anything about EAB in the U.P. and cant find a thing.  I did find thier latest map that says it shows all sites of any EAB findings "Outside of" the Quarantine areas. No indicators on that either.

Michigan.gov (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/MDA_EAB_Detections_Outside_Quar_110364_7.pdf)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/MDA_EAB_Detections_Outside_.jpg)


Estiers, have you come up with any official information?

Wow. I read this article earlier today, and posted about it on my weblog (http://www.dlarborist.com/treetrends). Not knowing Michigan's counties, I assumed the article was entirely about the UP.  The confusion that Jeff points out, alternating between talking about Luce county (UP) and Gratiot (not UP), really muddled the article. On re-reading, I guess the article does NOT say that there is an infestation on the UP.  So is there?  Just the facts, ma'am.

Thats what I want. I think thats what is deserved somewhere. Certainly, most of us dont want this to be true, but we need the truth, again, not muddled information.  Again, thats what this is.  Somewhere someone investigated this U.P. site and has a report. Where is it and what is in it?

Hey Jeff,

I assumed that Gratiot county is in the U.P.!  Even though I'm a Michigan native, I certainly don't have a handle on where all the counties are.  I see what you mean... ::)

You get the wrong reporter-type and a sensitive subject and they will always muck it up.  >:(

The way things are reported seem to be the issue.  The reason that Newberry does not show up as a red dot on that current finds map is because, while they did find the transported infested wood in the area, The MDA does not call an area positive unless they find the bug in a standing tree.  This was not the case in Newberry. The only place they found the bug was in the transported wood, and, as I said before, in further investigations they surveyed the area around where the wood was dropped and found very little ash, and no infested ash.  As for the "bugs flying around" part, I do not know about that as I was not there. 

Not sure if I muddied the water more, but that is what I have. 

Thanks Erin,  Good to know I don't usually get the details unless I hunt them down.  But then I have to think how accurate a news story is once the editors get to it.  For instance it mentions 4 measures proposed but only details the one for jail time, $250,000, and expenses to clean it up.  As to the initial post the "bugs flying around" i think was in reference to Gratiot, not Newberry.

My $0.02

Heard on the radio this morning that federal money to state of Michigan for EAB eradication has been cut from $25M to $11M.  I tried to find some print news to back up this story and all I could find was:

http://www.petoskeynews.com/articles/2005/04/07/news/local_regional/news01.txt

Seams like this should be bigger news given the crisis. :(

Not just Michigan, but Ohio as well. I posted an article yesterday "Ash borer eradication underfunded" (http://www.dlarborist.com/treetrends/categories/aliensPests/2005/04/27.html#a137).  It seems that the USDA is withholding funds that were allocated by Congress.

I know it is slightly off topic, but my forester says that our Ash have the Yellows. http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/howtos/ht_ash/ht_ash.htm

I would say that 50% of the 12" and larger exhibit large amount of dieback. His suggestion was to completely cutout the Ash, nurture the saplings and hope the MLO's lifecycle misses them.

Anyone here got an opinion on this? I am concerned that the distressed trees will be a siren song for the EAB.

I don't know that ash yellows predisposes trees to emerald ash borer, but it seems likely.  Agrilus beetles in general prefer stressed and declining trees, and given the choice between healthy and stressed trees will choose the stressed ones. 

Ash yellows is caused by a phytoplasma (a kind of bacteria, referred to in older literature as MLO's) transmitted by sucking insects (aphids, leafhoppers).  It is hard for me to understand how getting rid of the existing ash in favor of saplings will help - saplings get ash yellows, too, and you obviously have the vector insects in your area. The general silvicultural strategy for heavy ash yellows infection is to eliminate ash in favor of other species.

If you read the article, it says "The USDA has allocated Ohio roughly $8 million of a $11.6 million request for 2005 borer funding"  This does NOT mean that the USDA is not giving out funds that have been allocated.  This means that Ohio asked for 11.6 and got 8.  There is not a whole lot of money gong around these days, due to the wars and things.  Just because you ask for something doesn't mean you are going to get it.  If you read further, you will notice that they went up from last years budget of $3.8 million.  Michigan, which had a greatly larger infestation, only got $11m (when they asked for $25m).  My point is you can't be given money that is not there.

estiers - Just out of curiosity, any idea what Michigan's actual federal allocation was in 2004?  Sorry about any misconceptions - your right the issue for Mi was asked for $25M, got $11M.

There is no doubt that there is alot of worthy priorities and limited funding for federal dollars but the allocations to the EAB effort seam lacking when compared to other issues.  The Emerging Plant Pests line item in the APHIS budget is increasing - $93M in 2004, $101M in 2005, $127M budgeted 2006 (this includes all issues not just EAB) but it really pales in comparison to the issues that get national press and big money lobbying.  Compare to Forest Service Hazardous Fuels Reduction - $233M in 2004, $263M in 2005, $281M budget 2006 or the entire Wildland Fire Management budget - $1.39B in 2004, $1.44B in 2005 and again in 2006.  Many other allocations in the budget could also be debated:

http://www.usda.gov/agency/obpa/Budget-Summary/2006/11.MRP.htm

When it comes to fed funding, it always appears that the squeeky wheel gets the grease.  It seams an once of prevention might be worth a pound of cure in the case of EAB.  Might be worth writing a letter to USDA Sec Mike Johanns and supporting the MI and OH congressional delegations to get more funding.

Michigan got around $28m last year.  Yes, they took a cut, but if you look at the total funds for EAB for 2005 they do not add up to $28m, they are at around $20m.  I see what you are talking about in the emerging plant pest line.  This is the first year EAB has been in the appropriated line versus drawing from emergency funds.  That line encompasses many pests: Asian Longhorned Beetle, Phytophthora ramorum (Sudden Oak Death), Soybean rust, etc.  I am NOT closely ralated to the money side of this issue, so this is as about as in depth as I can go.  Believe me, I want more funding for EAB too.  There might be more coming through the emergency program, but we cannot bank on that.  We have to do the best job with what we have. 

Hello,
  I don't know a whole lot about ash yellows but I do know that it has been around quite a while.  As far as being a siren song for EAB, if your area doesn't have the insect they can't be attracted to the trees.  They can fly but definitely not that far. :)  The idea of thinning that standing ash to remove ash yellows sounds like a good idea to me.  But if there are a lot of ash in your area and you let the ash regenerate they will likely get infected by the ash yellows again.  I am not sure but it could be that some years are worse than others depending on the weather conditions.  Also it might be that many years of decline from ash yellows are required to kill the tree.  Remember I am only speculating based on my experience with other problems.
  As I side note->  I got to meet Jeff at our Michigan Association of Timbermen (MAT) conference recently.  It was great to have a chance to meet him and Wildflower.  I took quite a while bending their ears about EAB.  We were trying to preach the use of ASH and not letting it go to waste.  Unfortunately after the MDNR had their talk about timber sales and "certified forests" most of the audience got up and left before MDA got started talking.  Some people took the time to listen and we were able to clear up quite a bit of mis-information.  I think that part is just as important as increasing awareness.  Thanks to all of you for listening and trying to learn as much as you can. :P

Jereme

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/EAB_Quarantine_20May05_125558_7.pdf

The Michigan EAB quarantine has changed.  There are some pretty significant changes to it.  It goes back to a 2 tiered system, a quarantined area and a regulated area.  The quarantine area had expanded to include a couple more outliers.   The regulated area includes the whole Lower Peninsula of Michigan.  This change has little effect on the quarantined region, who will still live under strict laws regulating movement of ash materials out.  The kicker is that if you live in the LP, but not in the quarantine, you will also have to have inspections and certification to get your ash products out of the LP.  It also prohibits movement of non-coniferous firewood out of the LP.

Feel free to look it over and shoot me any questions you might have, either here, through PM, or via phone.

Our local paper had a very brief write up on it last Saturday, hope these latest measures have a positive affect .

For those of you who are impacted by these new regulations, there is one thing that does not come through with as much force as it probably should.  These new regulations mean that NO ash logs may leave the lower peninsula during the adult flight season (designated as May 1 through August 31) and may only move to approved mills outside of that timeframe.  This might be a big deal for those of you out there who have ash on the ground and were planning to take it out of the LP, say to Indiana or the Upper.

We have plenty of Ash in the UP, you trolls can keep your Ash on your side of the bridge smiley_annoyed01

I know that there was talk about the small penalties levied against quarantine violoators on here a couple of months ago.  I heard on NPR yesterday afternoon that the Michigan law has been changed in regards to this.  It raised the fines to start at $1000. I tried to find the Press Release, but it was not there.  Maybe the website will be updated today.

http://www.emeraldashborer.info/Finesincrease.cfm

Here is the link.

Here is the latest EAB Map from Sharon Lucik at USDA-APHIS. The latest now includes the Mason County (Ludington State Park) initial, Tawas Point SP find and ongoing updates in Lucas and Wood Counties, Ohio.

I was a little worried when I saw the dark green areas in the UP, glad to see it just the national forests  smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sweat_drop

I don't like that mark by me over in Ottawa! >:(

http://www.ohioagriculture.gov/pubs/divs/plnt/curr/eab/eab-nr-ottawacounty-071105.stm

New find in NW Ohio.

http://www.ohioagriculture.gov/pubs/divs/plnt/curr/eab/eab-nr-delawarecounty-05Jul19.stm

New find in Delaware Co., OH

This county is not near the Northwestern quarantined area, rather it is near Columbus, making it a pretty significant find.

A VERY "significant" find indeed.....

Natural Resources Canada is also studying ways to control or eliminate the spread of the spruce long horn beetle. Currently, it's only in the Halifax area where it invaded sites devastated by hurricane Yaun. Another Asian import.

It was just reported on our local news, www.9and10news.com that the emerald ash borer has been confirmed for the first time in Brimley in Chippewa county.

Don't know how many of you have Consumers Energy, but in the little news letter that comes with the bill is a piece on EAB.

I heard about it this morning.  It was found in the state park there.  Probably been there at least a year and probably longer

I saw the same thing on the news this morning also. What disappointing news. Hope it is only an isolated case but I bet it isn't. Maybe some of the people who are still sneaking firewood to the U.P. will take the time to think what damage has been done by this action, and stop doing so before it spreads further.

It's going to be interesting to see what's found when all these trap trees are examined

Attached is the USDA perss release on the Brimley infestation

Read about it this morning in yesterdays Iron Mountain Daily News.  :'(

Heard about it on the radio at work couldn't get any additional info until just now. I sorta knew it was coming but its still a shocker  :(

It makes me want to mill all our ash on our land in Delta County in the next year.   :'(

I followed a small pickup load of firewood across da bridge today. They paid their $2.50 and kept on going.   :'(

My first thought Chet was why aren't the bridge tenders stopping them. But, they really don't have the time to visually check the vehicles. Maybe it is time to put the check point  workers right at the toll booth.

That is kinda what I was thinking.  :-\  We did see the checkpoint trailer off in an adjacent parking lot as we drove by.   ???

This goes back to what I have tried to say in the past.
I know you don't really want to hear it, and I REALLY don't want to say it, but...........
We should consider the entire Lower Pen. contaminated and spend the $$$ at the bridges, tunnels and state lines.
The State could not have possibly belived they could cut every ash tree around a Quarantine zone. With the economy in the hole and the never ending budget cuts, why did they ever start?

It's still easy to transport any wood you want, if you have an enclosed truck or trailer. Most may not take that route, but I know many who do.

I know a gal who works for the Dept. of Ag. and she told me last month that all the bigwigs in the program are pulling out and coming back to the Dept. to get involved with other things.  The war is lost and the rats are leaving the sinking ship.  The field people are still operating, but they'll pull the plug on them in the next year or so.

I think that they went wrong about dealing with the borer.  They cut from the inside out.  If you are fighting a fire then you fight from the outside in.  They should have started by cutting at the outside edge of the quaratine area in towards the center.  By cutting little by little it is allowing people to move the borer around.  By cutting from the outside in people would know about the problem as the news would have been all over it.  Canada cut all ash trees along the Michigan border back for a three mile swath.  They are going about it right.

Doug

 smiley_thumbsup

Quote from: farmerdoug on September 18, 2005, 09:32:03 PM
I think that...  *snip*  They are going about it right.

Doug

That takes foresight, money, and a thick hide to withstand the inevitable carping that the money should've been spent on people (parasites?) who need a helping hand.  Our political whores seldom possess such sterling qualities.  Besides, it's too late.  If the situation had been recognized and dealt with within a year or 18 months of the arrival of this pest and the first ash deaths, we might have had a chance to win the war.  They've spread too far, too fast and I don't care what they claim in the Great White North, the borer is already there in Ontario.

Before someone sends me a report to moderator:

From From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Whores: In a more general sense of the word, anyone selling their services for a cause thought to be unworthy can be described as prostituting themselves.

I took it to mean that too Jeff. ;D I've actually used it many times in the same context. ;)

Your interpretation is correct.  For a state bleeding blue-collar jobs that offer a decent compensation package, you'd think that our politicians would be more attuned to our natural resources and wood products industry.

To be clear, its not my interpretation, its only my statement for allowing a word that normally would be banned or edited from the forestry forum.

I'm wondering where the money is going to come from when all the Ash trees that are still around start to die and it becomes a safety issue.  Here in Lucas county I'm pretty sure that when the state starts back to cutting they are going to be long gone and the cost is going to be to the municipalities and the private landowners.

tburtscher

In the great birch die-back (1937-47) the woods was full of window makers. My grandfather always remarked on it when he'd tell some stories of hunting deer. I know I wouldn't want to be in those woods. I don't know about the tax payer having to pay for removal of the trees though. You should have seen plantations and thinning blocks in the mid 80's that had those mature white birch nuked with Glyphosate. People had to work among snags and tops, what a mess.

Quote from: SwampDonkey on October 05, 2005, 08:52:32 AM
tburtscher

In the great birch die-back (1937-47) the woods was full of window makers. My grandfather always remarked on it when he'd tell some stories of hunting deer. I know I wouldn't want to be in those woods.

man...you're right, Swamp...those window makers are sure some DanG scary fellers...I'd hate to run into them in the middle of fall, as they roam with their window making supplies through the woods, terrorizing all of us God-fearing folk.   ;) ;D

...couldn't resist.   ;)

Clever fella there Pascale.  ;) Caught me with my breaches down that time. :D :D

I love the little typos we do sometimes that just completely change the meaning into something pretty funny.   ;D

A week ago plus the ash borer trap tree by my mailbox was cut and part or all of it was chipped.  The ash borer crew has been seen else where doing the same thing.  So when is the public gonna be let in on the findings???  I hope it isn't treated like some great big deep dark secret like so many things that involving the gov't are >:( ::)

Corley5...remember all that Ash that had to be utilized; the reason for the Whitmore Lake workshop?  Have you had anyone calling trying to get you to utilize their trees?  I haven't.

EAB has been found near Decatur, In :(  Specialists say it may have been there as long as five years. which is long before it was officially confirmed in IN.  Both larvae and an adult were found.  Quarantines have been applied to Root and Washington Townships.  It just keeps getting worse :'( :( >:( >:( :(

Quote from: Corley5 on October 19, 2005, 09:49:12 PM
It just keeps getting worse :'( :( >:( >:( :(

It's gonna!

There is a new Michigan quarantine to take a look at:  http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125-1568_2390_18298---,00.html
Several outliers have been added and some expanded. 

Also, Ohio has also added other areas to their quarantine: http://www.ohioagriculture.gov/eab/plnt-eab-maps.stm
This includes a township in Williams County.

As always, feel free to contact me with any questions.

The guys from the state were cutting down the test tree on our land yesterday so I stopped to talk. Good news for us no bug found! Not sure if they are susposed to say, but the bug was found in Wilson township, near Deer Lake in Charlevoix County.

I heard this week on the news that the EAB has crossed into Ontario, Canada.   :-\

http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw123998_20051110.htm

EAB has been a present in Windsor, Amherstburg, Essex, LaSalle and Tecumseh of Essex County since 2002. The CFIA and the USDA have been working together against the little beast.

Ontario Woodlot Association  (http://www.ont-woodlot-assoc.org/emeraldash.html)

I read in the paper yesterday that EAB has been confirmed in Winchester, IN.  That puts it much further into the state then previously thought.  All ash trees in a half mile radius are being removed.  Unfortunately I would expect that firewood has been moved further than that  :(

I tried tell ALL of you LONG LONG ago about this...but was...well....repressed...look guys...this IS the greatist fourm EVER..but...Ive TRIED to tell ALL of you LONG ago of this and where it was going/...MOUNTHS!!!!...makes no difference now...ALL I wanted to do was make u aware of the  "goings on"...I told you over 6 mnths ago about the UP..I told u LONG ago about how it was spreding...i TRIED to make you make others aware of this devistation......anyway.....we can only hope that INFORMATION will access our communities and bring to reality that we ALL need to take a better look and appreciate what we can do to make a difference for the better of ALL of us...

I thought we were done with this line of conversation?


You are not Mohammed...

I was just wondering what everyone thought about stopping the spread of the EAB.....do you think it can be stopped or is it just a matter of time?  I had hope of stopping it but now I think it may be a hopeless cause....we can slow it down perhaps but resistance is futile.

For the record...I DONT think Im " Mohammed"....I just want awareness...we can only hope that INFORMATION will access our communities and bring to reality that we ALL need to take a better look and appreciate what we can do to make a difference for the better of ALL of us... Im sorry if I came accross in the " wrong way"...Ive said all along this Forum is fantastic....I just want to open eyes and TRY to "spred the word"....IF " shutting up" is what you want me to do....than...so be it...but...my only concern is trying to do the right thing in making ANYONE aware....forgive my bluntness....I dont think Im Mohammad...just a concerned guy thats right in the middle of all this.....so forgive me for being up frount....

  In reference to the efforts in Canada to create a fire break (cutting from the outside in).  It is important to note that they found EAB beyond the established 3 mile swath of removed ash trees.  I won't harp on the number of Walnut trees that were cut by mistake.  You see the insect has been around longer than initially thought.  If they hadn't been so pro-active to just start cutting they might have realized the insect was in other spots they hadn't found yet.  One public miconception here in Michigan is that the insect is spreading out of control and we can't stop it.  The truth of the matter is that the insect has been moved all over by people and people looking for EAB in the US and Canada are still finding where the bug is on a daily basis.
  If people don't notice the symptoms, notice but don't investigate further, or call in professionals it takes longer to find infestations and the insect establishes a greater foothold.  I have stopped people from taking infested firewood on camping trips to the East Coast only to be told that it is an annual camping trip.  How many families have already taken wood all over the country prior to the identification of EAB in 2002, or before the heavy outreach and education that began in 2003.  But lets look at a bigger picture, all the exotic invasive insects and diseases, and the ones we don't know about yet.  A firebreak type scenario can be effective if a problem is proven new and there are no unnatural means by which the targeted pest can leave such as the oblivious human transporting the problem.
  Anyway, burn some wood this winter, keep it home.  And everyone please have a safe Holiday Season.
Jereme

Last's last is no longer last ;D

EAB article on Excite news.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20051225/D8EN0TOG8.html


Jason

I read in the local paper yesterday that EAB has been confirmed in a suburb of Indianapolis.  they believe it has been there for about seven years.  I guess it is time to start looking more closely at my ash trees. :(

Yes, there are 4 new townships quarantined in Indiana: 2 in Hamilton Co (Clay and Delaware) and 2 in Marion Co (Washington and Lawrence).  It will be important for people in counties with EAB quarantines to pay attention to the press releases as the State has hinted that they may also do a less stringent quarantine for the entire county. 

See this article: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060121/NEWS01/601210439/1001/rss01

Aas always, you may pose any questions you have to me through PM, email, or phone.

Erin

What I find so amazing is the lack of public exposure on this subject. I haven't seen one word about EAB except here on the forum and what I found with a google search. I realize that I'm not in a problem area ( as far as I'm aware ) but I would expect to have heard something on Cable TV or maybe something in one of the woodworking mags etc.
Maybe....... if the EAB was called a terrorist plot started by the Al-cada, it would get the national attention it needs. 
I appreciate the info on the subject here on the forum, and I know that there is some info getting out in the local problem areas ( my dad in Mich was aware of the EAB issue ),I just think too few are aware yet.
VA-Sawyer

In the news today was an article stating that the state of Indiana is no longer going to attempt to eradicate or control EAB.  The costs of culling ash trees in a half mile radius and desposing of them is more than the DNR is willing to part with.  I think there is a realization that the beetle has been around much longer than suspected and the cat is out of the bag so to speak.
If federal dollars were to become available the state will rethink its position.  It was alluded that Ohio may also be terminating their eradication activities.
The ash goes the way of the elm and the chestnut.  :'(

I think the focus is going to shift purely to finding ways to kill the beatle and in enforcement to restrict movement of the wood into areas that have yet to show signs of infestation.  As for the trees in infected areas, I think its going to be up to city,county,landowners to remove the trees without much federal aid.

OWW
Another example of how the states 'milk' the Fed's for money. Probably will work too.

I just hope it doesn't come here after I've been trying to promote white ash on  my woodlot. I have to deal enough with the dang moose rubbing their antlers on it and stripping the bark off.  We need a longer moose season than 3 days.  ::) I'm not kidding that I see way more moose than deer in my area. In the dead of winter they tend to move up into the head of the brook in aspen and cedar stands. I'm goin up their tommorrow with camera in hand to see if I can see thier trails.  ;)

My place is in Hamilton Co., IN. but there is no reports of EAB in my township as of yet. My question is should I go ahead and make lumber out of my ash trees? Have afew pretty nice ones. Then, what about air drying outside?
I don't know much about these little critters but I did read that DNR was just going to let then go. Said removal of trees in 1/2 mile radius was not effective to prevent their spreading.

sperry -  Do you have a mill?  If the ash trees and the mill are in the same general area then you are in no rush to harvest.  The rush might be if you wanted to market the logs out of Hamilton Co. as they are considering doing a 2 tiered quarantine which would encompass the whole county.  Feel free to contact me by PM, email, or phone if you have any questions. 

And I would like to correct 1 thing you said.

Quote from: sperry on February 01, 2006, 12:45:06 PM
Said removal of trees in 1/2 mile radius was not effective to prevent their spreading.

The reason they are not doing these types of cuts is not due to lack of efficiency, rather lack of funding.

Esteries, If the bug is ever found on my land, and the state has the money to remove the trees. Would I be allowed to have them pile them up on my property so that I could cut them up for lumber with my Woodmizer? The state could then burn or remove the infected bark/waste. Thanks in advance for the reply. Dana

Dana - I pm'ed you.

Estiers
Pm me too - thanks, I'd be interested in the answer to that question, as I think others would be too.  :)

The reason I pm'ed Dana is because every case here in Michigan is unique depending on where you are located.  I cannot guarantee that anything that I told Dana can/will happen.  When it comes to questions like this, questions that are not directly connected with the quarantine, I can only say what has happened and what might happen.  I did tell Dana that in the past the state has allowed those in cut zone to be able to harvest and use their own trees.  This does not happen in every cut site.  As for piling them up on the property, the state puts a time frame on when they need to be processed and when the waste needs to be destroyed.  Each cut zone is handles differently, as each site is radically different, so what happened at one might not happen at another.

http://www.in.gov/nrc/nrc/05-317_E.pdf

Sperry and others in Indiana.  I was just informed that Indiana did enact the new type of quarantine.  This involves all counties with an EAB infestation also being quarantined.  Visit the website above to read the quarantine.  As always feel free to ask me any questions that may pop up.  This does not negate my previous reply to sperry, only it will make it more difficult for him to get his ash logs out of the county.

Estiers
Sorry for the delay. Yes I do have a mill. I wasn't sure if I needed to rush to harvest or not. What are you supposed to do if you find EAB.
Thanks

If you find EAB you should contact your local IDNR office.  (In Ohio and Michigan it would be the Dept of Agriculture)

http://www.ohioagriculture.gov/news/news/2006/eab%20Governors%20release-021506.pdf

Ohio has revised its quarantine significantly.  The area impacted includes all of the following counties: Williams, Defiance, Fulton, Henry, Lucas, Ottawa, Sandusky, and Wood.  It also impacts parts of the following counties: Erie, Hancock, Lorain, Ottawa, and Auglaize.

Here is the latest map courtesy of Erin.

Just got this yesterday from the Urban Forester in my area...
Basically says we're on our own around northwest Ohio, much like the folks in Michigan


Updated: February 15, 2006


Frequently Asked Questions About Ohio's Emerald Ash Borer Program

1. Will the state continue to cut ash trees for eradication?
Eradication will only occur at extreme outlier infestation sites, if funding allows. Currently, eradication is being carried out in Delaware and Auglaize counties – the southernmost points of infestation. Eradicating extreme outlier infestations extinguishes "sparks" out in front of the leading edge and supports the overall efforts to contain the pest. Working together to slow the spread of the pest will bide time for researchers to find alternative treatment options, provide industry more time to use available ash tree resources, and allow municipalities more time to proactively prepare for the pest.

2. What are my options if I am within the quarantined area in northwest Ohio?
At this point, it is unrealistic to rely on federally funded eradication efforts as the sole plan to handle ash tree removal. Homeowners and municipalities in northwest Ohio need to begin, if they haven't already, implementing plans to harvest ash trees and reduce ash tree populations. Options include:
•   Tree removal - It is more cost effective to cut down a live tree than to cut down a dead, brittle tree that poses potential hazards. Citizens should be smart shoppers when lining up an arborist to cut down their trees and should also be sure to abide by Ohio's quarantine when disposing of ash trees. For more information about tree removal, go to www.treesaregood.com/treecare/hire_arborist.aspx. For more details about Ohio's quarantined area, visit www.ohioagriculture.gov/eab, or call 1-888-OHIO-EAB.
•   Pesticide treatment - At this point, there is no treatment that is proven completely effective in eradicating Emerald Ash Borer, but it may be an option for those within the quarantine area in northwest Ohio. Research is ongoing in hopes of finding a "silver bullet" alternative treatment. Citizens who choose to treat should be sure to research efficacy and timing of treatment applications. Please keep in mind that if a state-mandated eradication does occur, trees, treated or not, will be destroyed. For more information, go to www.ashalert.osu.edu.
•   Harvest timber – Woodlot owners interested in consultation about forest management should contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources Division of Forestry, 1-877-247-8733, www.ohiodnr.com/forestry/landowner/default.htm. Citizens who are interested in harvesting ash tree timber and intend to move the timber outside Ohio's quarantined

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FAQs on Ohio's Program – Page 2 of 2

area will need a compliance agreement with the Ohio Department of Agriculture. Compliance agreements are needed to ensure that ash tree material is handled in a manner that will not allow the pest to spread outside the quarantined area. For more information about compliance agreements, call 1-888-OHIO-EAB.
•   Do nothing - This is the first year there will be dead ash trees standing in Lucas County. Within a few years, there will be an abundance of dead trees lining the streets, and in the parks, woodlots, and landscapes of Lucas County and surrounding areas. Ash trees just now infested with EAB will be dead in three to five years. Knowing this, now is the time to begin cutting down ash trees to reduce potential hazards of standing dead trees and to help reduce the EAB population, the only thing that will slow the spread of this fate to the rest of Ohio's ash trees.

3. Who will pay for tree removal?
Federal funding is not available for eradication as it has been in the past. Citizens and municipalities need to prepare for the arrival of this ash tree-killing pest and ultimately, the devastation that the borer leaves behind. Those affected by EAB will probably carry more of the financial burden associated with tree removal than in the past.

4. Is the State abandoning northwest Ohio?
We will not cut trees in northwest Ohio, but the EAB Task Force agencies will have a presence there. We will continue education, detection, quarantine regulation, ash utilization, woodlot and community tree management consultation. All play an important role in slowing the spread of EAB. The amount of eradication, the most expensive part of the program, done in Ohio will be dictated by available federal funding.

5. Given more funding, will you eradicate in northwest Ohio?
Given the infestation picture in northwest Ohio, it seems unlikely because of the significant cost associated with cutting the amount of trees around our known infestations. At this point, the first priority with eradication funding is to battle the most outlying infestations. Looking beyond eradication, there are other aspects of the program that will be funded and are important in maintaining a fighting presence against this insect in northwest Ohio. Detection, education, wood utilization, regulation, and other cooperative efforts all are vital to our fight in Ohio.

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Media Contact: Melissa Brewer, EAB Communications, 614-728-6404

Interesting link. Don't use this link use the next one down. (It works) ;)

Here it is. :)
LINK TO INTERESTING EAB ARTICLE (http://www.anrcats.msu.edu/press/20906/20906_researcherslearnfrom.htm)

Maybe you could make it even longer next time.  ::)

Sorry Swampdonkey :), Didn't the second link work?  ;)

Is It Time To Kiss Your Ash Goodbye?

The March/April 2006 issue of Tree Farmer magazine has an informative article of the above title on Emeral Ash Bore written by Dr. Deborah G. McCullough, associate professor in the departments of entomology and forestry at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan.

Dr. McCullough has worked on thr EAB issue since it entered Michigan.

http://www.ohioagriculture.gov/eab/plnt-eab-regulations.stm

10 townships in Huron County, Ohio were added to the EAB quarantine.

Researchers Learn From Emerald Ash Borer-Infested Tree

An ash tree infested with emerald ash borer (EAB) from Michigan's Upper Peninsula is giving Michigan State University (MSU) researchers insights into the pest's habits. The tree, harvested from the Brimley State Park in the Upper Peninsula on Whitefish Bay, was used as a detection tree in 2004. It was taken down in September 2005 and brought to MSU for study.

For more information, visit the Michigan State University College of Agriculture and Natural Sciences website.

My little woman said she has been finding these funny looking bugs in the living room. Found one this morning and compared it to pics from another thread. It looks like a Bander Ash Borer. They must be falling out of our oak timber frame. Is this possible? What should I do next? Thanks for any info.

Got a pic?

Not sure that I know how to post pics, but I'll try.

I give up on posting pics. Must be puter dumb. Might just change my name to that.

Sent ya an IM. ;)

Can ya tell anything by this

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13358/bug-2.jpg)


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13358/bug.jpg)

Looks like the locust borer (Megacyllene robiniae) (Forster)

It is common on golderod in fall, and larvae are serious pests of living black locust

[Source: Peterson Field Guide to Insects, 1970]

Its not a locust borer. I have the Audubon Field guide to bugs and spiders and there is a great photo of the locutst borer. While similar, its really very different then the bug depicted.

What seems to be very very close in looks, but not near as good of photo of it in the book it the Banded Ash Borer Neoclytus caprea (Say)

I found a pretty good comparison on the web. http://www.forestpests.org/ash/bandedborer.html

A very good photo here including the edge of the uderside. I think we have a pretty positive I.D. here with Banded Ash Borer.

http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=2131034

So is the oak timber frame really an ash timber frame ???

From what I found white oak can be a host.

"Hosts of the banded ash borer include ash, hickory, elm, mesquite and, occasionally, white. oak."

Source: Fact Sheet No. 11Revised May 2000Dr. Jay B Karren, Extension EntomologistAlan H. Roe, Insect Diagnostician

I thought the same - banded ash borer. So does this mean they are eating away at my frame? My frame is mostly Red Oak but does some white in it. Have a guarantee that there weren't any bugs in it, but it set uncovered for about a month before sip's were on. What next?

Is this the same critter?  It popped up as a random pic in the gallery. Couldn't tie it to a thread.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/archives/animals1/ash-iandd-redheaded-sawfly-small.jpg)

I agree with Jeff's id now that we can see a glimpse of the belly on the website

INDIANAPOLIS — Indiana officials have confirmed that the beetle blamed for killing millions of ash trees in the Midwest has moved into Indianapolis, just months after it was found in the city's northern suburbs.

The pest has killed or infested 15 million trees in Michigan since being discovered in the southeastern Lower Peninsula in 2002.

The Asian pest has spread from Michigan into northwest Ohio and a few other isolated spots in that state.

The discovery of the emerald ash borer in Indiana's Marion County was expected after it was found in January to have infested about a dozen trees in Carmel, where many of the trees have already been cut down.

The newest discovery of the beetle makes Marion County the seventh Indiana county with known infestations. The Carmel and Indianapolis sites, however, are far beyond where the pest had previously been found in northern and eastern Indiana.

Indiana Department of Natural Resources Director Kyle Hupfer was to discuss the state's response to the infestation during a news conference on Wednesday.

 :(  a little birdie mentioned to me that there have been big changes in michigans eab program, and more could follow, make sure to stay tuned to current information from mda by checking the web site.

Just a matter of time now before it shows up somewhere in the Northeast. :( :'(

If it comes to the maritimes, it will be detected, but little will be done on shoe string budgets.  ::)

Any of you guys know what the process is for becoming an inspector regarding EAB?  Who does the inspection of the loads? I have been toying with the Idea of going back to school in forestry and am wondering if there are enough inspectors around to get the job done. My dad was a Phd. entomologist (MSU) so I've been around bugs my whole life and am familiar with some of the complications regarding eradication. 

This was in todays Detroit Free Press.


Sterling Heights tree gets big hug
Experiment aims to stop ash borer

May 9, 2006

Email this Print this BY CHRIS CHRISTOFF

FREE PRESS LANSING BUREAU CHIEF




Bob Brinker of Tri-County Tree Expert Co. injects the chemical Merit into Trompeter's tree Monday. Two trees across the street also are involved.
Three years ago, Joe Trompeter stood defiantly in front of a chain-saw crew and kept it from cutting down the 35-year-old ash tree in the front yard of his Sterling Heights home.

The city had marked the tree and two across the street for removal under its program to stem the spread of the emerald ash borer.

"I'm usually not that kind of guy," said Trompeter, 63, a General Motors retiree.

He persuaded the city to spare the trees. Today, all three are alive after regular treatments, which apparently have held the deadly beetles at bay.

The trees have become a small-scale experiment that ultimately could save more ash trees. Ash borers have claimed an estimated 15 million trees in Michigan.

"They don't kill people with cancer, they try to save them," Trompeter said last week. "I know it sounds mushy and all, but a tree is a living thing. It gives us shade in the morning. It cuts down on the cooling bill in the summer."

He sought help from Leah Bauer, an ash borer expert with the U.S. Forest Service research effort at Michigan State University. Through her, a Lansing company, Emerald Bio Agricultural Corp., agreed to donate an organic pesticide called BotaniGard to spray on Trompeter's and his neighbors' trees.

BotaniGard uses a fungus to kill the ash borer larvae.

The Sterling Heights company Tri-County Tree Expert agreed to apply both the spray and a chemical called Merit at no charge. On Monday, it injected Trompeter's tree and another with Merit as it began the treatment for the third straight year. Trompeter's tree also got treatment in the soil.

The third tree did not get Merit, but all three will be sprayed with BotaniGard. Brian Levene, research scientist with Emerald Bio Agricultural Corp., said the trees are an opportunity to test BotaniGard and Merit against the ash borer. "It's just a way to promote more options than a chain saw," he said. "My fear is there will be no ash trees in Michigan."

Levene said when he first inspected Trompeter's ash tree three years ago, it showed no signs of the ash borer -- although the city marked it as part of its project to remove all ash trees in Sterling Heights.

Since then it has been infested -- as have the other two trees -- but they appear to be surviving.

"I think mine is the greenest," Trompeter said. "It's blossoming now. You can see where the beetle has been in there, but the bark is growing back."

Bauer said it's not certain whether the treatments will ultimately save the trees, but there's a good chance because they began before the infestation was full-blown.

Bauer said although BotaniGard is effective and could be used more widely to kill the ash borer, the public fears pesticides sprayed over large areas.

Maybe some good news for the ash.

So,
  Can I bring firewood from a NON infected Upper Peninsula area to Lower Michigan?
I know you cant go north on the bridge with wood how about southbound?

The beetle was found in the UP in Brimley. Due to that fact, even if it is legally o.k. it isn't in my mind, ethically right to do.

Legally, as long as your firewood did not originate in the Brimley quarantined area you can come south into the Lower Peninsula with firewood.  Remember, however, that once you have crossed the bridge that firewood is condiered "Lower Peninsula firewood" and cannot return north.  If you are unsure if you are originating in the Brimley area, or from any outlier quarantine area, visit the website below.  You can click on the blue outliers to get a close up map which will show you the boundaries.

http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125-2961_6860_30046---,00.html

Feel free to contact me by phone, email, or personal message with any questions you might have.

There's also the risk of bringing beech scale into the Lower Penisula.

That's interesting about the beech scale. In the farthest NW portion of the beech-maple forest in NB, the scale is not found, so I've been told. It's mostly found from St Leonard southward.

It's here in the LP.  There was some found in northern Emmet County but the thought is that the eradiction attempt was successful.  It's also been found in a state park on the western side of the state maybe Ludington?

Emerald  ash  borer  made the local paper Kalamazoo gazette font page two days running. They have found it in Milham park and across the street at Loy Norrix  high school. Milham park is a large city park lots of large older trees I dont know how many of them are ash but the report seemed to say many trees were afected.  I have some much younger  ash in my small woodlot  I am keeping my fingers crossed but have a bad feeling about the  prospects  for  the ash in Michigan and maybe the USA>

Article from the May 15th Toledo Blade:

East Coast firm enlists in tree-pest war

By TOM HENRY
BLADE STAFF WRITER


An East Coast company has offered free tree-injection equipment and discounts on a potent pesticide to help municipalities in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana battle the emerald ash borer.

The company, Arborjet of Woburn, Mass., says it empathizes with the Great Lakes region's uphill fight against the deadly pest that has caused the destruction of thousands of ash trees.

It has created a nonprofit group to distribute $70,000 worth of tree-injection equipment to distressed communities at no charge. It also is offering a 42 percent discount on the only pesticide that state and federal scientists believe actually has a chance of fending the tiny Asian beetle away from healthy trees.

The chemical, called imidacloprid, is in some over-the-counter products at garden centers. But it is illegal to be distributed to the general public in the concentration and form in which it is used by arborists.

The offer to this region's municipalities is being extended by the Urban Forest Conservancy, a nonprofit organization Arborjet created this year.

Arborjet donated 150 kits, together valued at $70,000, to the conservancy for distribution among Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana communities that apply for them, Peter Wild, the company's president and chief operating officer, said.

It also is offering to sell imidacloprid to community foresters in those three states at a bulk rate of $4,200 per case, instead of the retail price of $7,200 per case. The conservancy hasn't set a limit on the number of cases that can be bought at the discounted rate, Mr. Wild said.

"It's all about saving trees," Mr. Wild said, likening the beetle's spread to that of a forest fire. "It's a battle. It's serious."

The company, in return, gets a tax write-off for the donations it makes to the conservancy, Mr. Wild said.

The free equipment and discounts are limited to communities applying them to trees that have lost less than 10 percent of their canopy to the beetle. The pest robs ash trees of juicy cambium beneath their bark, essentially starving the trees in three years. Trees typically begin dying from the top down.

John Jaeger, Toledo Area Metroparks natural resources director, said he was excited about the offer and would pursue it.

"Absolutely," he said. "If there's anything we can do, we'll do it. It's a huge, huge challenge, but also a great opportunity."

The park district has 100,000 ash trees in jeopardy, despite all those it has removed so far at Pearson Metropark and other sites. It can't possibly save them all, even with insecticide treatments. But a task force studying the problem wants to dedicate a number of trees to help advance the research of such treatments, Mr. Jaeger said.

Toledo, where the fight against the pest has shifted since its initial discovery in a western Detroit suburb in 2002, has lost thousands of ash trees.

Ken Yeager, acting manager in the city department of parks, recreation, and forestry, said he thought the city might be interested.




maybe its somthing, maybe its wishful thinking?  Anyone ever see treatment actually work?

Hey all. I have officially moved and am no longer working for the Emerald Ash Borer Project.  However, Shayne should now be a registered user here and can help you out with anything.  His user name is sgalford.  I will be peeking in so you have not seen the last of me.

Good show, Estiers!   

Welcome aboard sgalford.  :)

Erin,
Good luck in KS. 

For the past few days I have been hearing public service anouncements on the radio here in northern Minnesota saying don't bring firewood across the state line because of the threat of Gypsy Moth and Emerald Ash Borer.  At least the message is spreading a bit  8)

It looks like EAB has made its way to Illinois: :'(

EAB IL (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TREE_KILLER?SITE=NJVIN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/content/2006/07/alb_deregulate_illinois.shtml

Good news for those of you following the Asian Longhorned Beetle fight.  However, if you notice, there has been another find in IL, making it 2 counties: Kane and Cook.

West Virginia Meeting on Emerald Ash Borer:

On September 6, the State and Private Forestry Northeastern Area Morgantown Office will host an informational meeting in Flatwoods, West Virginia, on the emerald ash borer (EAB).  Although not yet detected in West Virginia, the EAB has killed more than 20 million ash trees in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana, and has recently been discovered in Illinois.   The meeting will focus on preventing EAB introduction and limiting its impact in WV Future meetings may lead to developing a strategic plan for EAB in West Virginia.  Attendees will include representatives from the West Virginia Division of Forestry, West Virginia Department of Agriculture Plant Industries Division, WVU Division of Forestry, WVU Division of Plant and Soil Sciences, USDA Animal & Plant Health Inspection Service, Natural Resource Conservation Service, Monongahela National Forest, Forest Service Northern Research Station and Forest Service Northeastern Area. 

Quarantine in Prince George's County, Maryland

Below was cut and paste from the Baltimore Sun at:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/harford/bal-ha.farm27aug27,0,5077505.story?coll=bal-local-harford

"Testing by the state Department of Agriculture last week detected beetle-infested ash trees in Prince George's County between Clinton and Brandywine.

The state imposed a quarantine that prohibits moving ash trees, logs, fallen banches, stumps or roots in or out of Prince George's County until further notice.

The quarantine also bans transporting of ash firewood or any hardwood firewood - including oak, maple and cherry - in or out of the county.

Anyone violating the quarantine could be fined up to $500.

Letters were sent n Wednesday to 195 plant dealers in the county informing them of the quarantine.

Although the beetle has been found in only about a dozen trees, Mary Ellen Setting, assistant state agriculture secretary in the office of pest management, said that it "could be very serious. In Michigan the beetle killed or forced the destruction of 20 million ash trees." "

WOW
Michigan lost 20 million ash trees. That's a big number.  :o

I'de like to know who counted them. ;D

Regarding the ban on moving hardwood fire wood, how do we specifiy what is firewood and what is a saw log?  This is for the ban on moving hardwood firewood in PG county Maryland.

I have calls in to the Maryland DNR and Ag folks. 

I am wondering as I have a Black Walnut job set up for this weekend.  I gotta move it from PG County to Charles County.

If anyone has any ideas on this please pass them along.



Mark

I don't know what your rules there are, but in Ohio it was anything under 4' was firewood. (they wanted enough material to be able to determine what kind of wood they were dealing with.   
Todd

Mark, did you try the phone numbers in the Maryland Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) Q&A webpage?  (http://www.mda.state.md.us/plants-pests/eab/)

"Q:Where can I find out more?
A:The links on this page provide information regarding many aspects of the emerald ash borer and the Maryland program. For more information regarding the quarantine, and ongoing survey and eradication activities, or to report suspect emerald ash borer damage, call the Maryland Department of Agriculture at 410.841.5920. The Maryland Cooperative Extension Home and Garden Information Center, 800-342-2507, www.hgic.umd.edu, is a good diagnostic resource for homeowners. "

Reading the quarantine and the EAB webpage it seems clear that the state differentiates between firewood and logs but I haven't seen their definitions. 

Regards Jim from Brandywine, in the heart of the quarantine.
 

Thanks for the info Jim, I have already called in to the State Ag and DNR folks. The guy I need to talk to was not in today.

I was hoping to find someone on here that may have already spoken with these folks.

I spoke with the director of the program this morning.  The guy I called yesterday never did call me back....

The quarntine does differinate between saw logs and firewood.   After I explained what I did; custom milling; the nice lady I spoke with this morning gave me her cell number.  Should I get pulled over by PGPD I can call her and she will interceed on my behalf.   Nice folks to deal with....

The emerald ash borer has been found in another northern Michigan county. Leelanau County is now on the growing list of effected communities. The latest infestation was found in two trees in Bingham Township, near the shore of Lake Leelanau.

When the bark was removed from both trees the tunneling made by the newly hatched borers was evident. The district forester says there are probably other infested trees nearby.

Otsego County is the 51st county in the Lower Peninsula to confirm the presence of the emerald ash borer. Officials say the insect was discovered in a lone ash tree on a farm in Livingston Township. Foresters discovered the affected tree in May, while overseeing a tree planting project. They say an ash tree near the garage, and in very poor health caught their eye.

The FEDERAL quarantine has changed to quarantine the entire Lower Peninsula of Michigan.  The interior quarantine is still being maintained by the state, so movement within the peninsula will still have a regulated and quarantined area.

I just found out we have them here in Prince Georges county, Maryland.

http://www.gazette.net/stories/110906/greenew193808_31941.shtml

They are restricting the movement of any hardwoods into and out of the county.

jon

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/content/2006/11/eab_fed_order.shtml

Please see link to connect to press release regarding federal EAB quarantine.  New quarantine, which goes into effect 12/1, includes ALL of the states of IL, IN, and OH.

Is this insect living in the quarantined area because it fits its life cycle, or is its spread indicitive of a an insect that might move south to the Gulf Coast?

There's Ash in the swamps of the southern states too.
Have any other trees been found to be attacked as well?

Unfortunetly, there is no indication that this insect is limited to a geographical region.

I've heard that the bug prefers the Green Ash, and leaves the White Ash alone.  True? Rumor? Unknown?

Half true.  Its kind of like you at the Thanksgiving dinner table.  You prefer the leg, but if they are both gone, you can stomach the breast.  EAB prefers green, but will attack white, black, or blue if neccesary. 

Link to FAQ sheet (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/plant_health/content/printable_version/emerald_ash_borer_faqs.pdf)

Here is a FAQ sheet about the new federal EAB quarantine.

I know I am a little late for the first date, but for those in Maryland, there is another EAB meeting coming up.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT:Sue duPont, 410-841-5889 orKate Wagner, 410-841-5888

Public Meetings Scheduled on Emerald Ash Borer Eradication Plans
Nov. 29 Frederick Douglass High School in Upper Marlboro and
Dec. 7 Surrattsville High School in Clinton

ANNAPOLIS, MD - Nov. 20, 2006 - Two public meetings will be held in Prince
George's County to outline the emerald ash borer situation in the southern
part of the county, actions being taken to prevent the beetle from becoming
established, and how residents can help.  The meeting agenda will include
information about the state quarantine that prohibits the transport of ash
trees and wood as well as all firewood out of Prince Georges's County; the
inventory of ash trees in neighborhoods and forested lands in the area;
plans to remove all ash trees in a 1.5-mile zone around the trees that are
known to be infested; and resources available to residents.

The two meetings will be held:
"            Wednesday, Nov. 29, 7:00-9:00 p.m. at the Frederick Douglass
High School, 8000 Croom Rd. Upper Marlboro (Library).
"            Thursday, Dec. 7, 7:00-9:00 p.m.  Surrattsville High School,
6101 Garden Dr., Clinton (Cafeteria).

The emerald ash borer is responsible for the destruction of some 25 million
ash trees in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio and Illinois where it has become
established.  We don't want such devastation here in Maryland.  In this
state, ash is a plentiful street tree and is important to streamside
buffers that protect the health of our waterways and the Chesapeake Bay.
Unfortunately, removing the emerald ash borer's food source - ash trees -
is the only certain way to eliminate the beetle.

Some of the ways that residents can help are:
"            Don't move firewood - buy it where you burn it.  Hauling
firewood is the most common way for damaging plant pests to move from one
area to another.  In addition, the state quarantine prohibits anyone from
moving hardwood firewood or any other ash tree materials out of Prince
George's County.
"            Don't plant ash trees south of Rt. 4 in Prince George's
County.  While people can still legally plant ash trees in other parts of
the county, alternate tree species are recommended for residential
landscaping.
"            Report any signs of the emerald ash borer to the University of
Maryland Home and Garden Information Center at 1-800-342-2507 or MDA at
410-841-5920.  Log on to www.emeraldashborer.info for information and
descriptions of the beetle and ash trees.
"            Alert neighbors, friends and colleagues to do the same.

             For information on the status of the emerald ash borer in
Maryland, including the quarantine please visit: www.emeraldashborer.info
and click on the Maryland link. If you have any questions or would like
additional handouts for your neighbors, please contact the Maryland
Department of Agriculture at 410.841.5920.

Emerald Ash Bore Information Meeting

Thursday, March 1, 2007; Evart Middle School Auditorium, 321 N. Hemlock Street, Evart, Michigan

Cost: $5.00/person; reservations are required. Call 231-832-6139 by
February 27, 2007

Sponsored by; Osceola County M.S.U. Extension
For more information call: 231-832-6139

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/MDA_EAB_StatewideQuarantineMap_111826_7.pdf[/url]

The Lower Penisula has lots of little red dots now.  It appears that all is lost here.  Trap trees have been put out again for this year but after they are collected in the fall that program ends.  Official checks on possible sites reported by individuals will also come to end.  The check point at the Bridge will be kept in place to try to keep the bug out of Da U.P. but it's making it's way into Wisconsin from the south so it's only a matter of time.

Our saving grace up here might be that the presence of ash is not a continuous belt. But if the insect becomes as common as potato beetles, it's doomed.

This is indeed bad news. :( Hopefully my kids won't remember of the ash the way I remember elm.  Kind of an interesting thought though...to this generation the ash problem is what was the Dutch Elm Disease to the previous generation.

Michigan State University Offers Emerald Ash Borer DVD/CD

A new DVD/CD package with information and educational resources on emerald ash borer (EAB), called "Emerald Ash Borer -- What You Need to Know," is now available from Michigan State University (MSU).

The DVD contains information on Ash tree identification, emerald ash borer larvae and beetle identification, signs and symptoms of EAB infestation, communicating to the public about EAB, working with the media, EAB regulatory information, an overview of pertinent EAB research, and the importance of ash trees to Native American tribes in North America.

The accompanying CD contains such resources as bulletins, public service announcements, and sources for documents and other EAB resources.

To purchase, please contact the MSU Bulletin Office at 517-353-6740. The DVD/CD package retails for $24.95 plus shipping and handling.

Quote from: Dana on February 01, 2007, 06:41:24 AM
This is indeed bad news. :( Hopefully my kids won't remember of the ash the way I remember elm.  Kind of an interesting thought though...to this generation the ash problem is what was the Dutch Elm Disease to the previous generation.

And the American Chestnut blight to an earlier generation.  I sometimes worry about the north american forest. We've lost a lot, or are in danger of losing more, chestnut (blight), elm (DED), beech (beech bark disease), and hemlock (wooly adelgid). Another one that really worries me is Sudden Oak Death. If it can survive in the east and escapes from the west, that one could be devastating.

All this doesn't keep me up at night - but maybe it should!

Just came across this article in the MD DNR web page, tells how the bug got into PG county, seems a nursury ordered live trees from Tennessee and they had them drop shipped from Michigan. I am amazed but not too surprized.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/infocus/emerald_ash_borer.asp

You have to be aware of a problem before you can do something about it.
Some one famous must have said that.
Jon

From WPBN-TV

The ash borer continues to infest trees throughout Michigan, but now a group of scientists plan to use a campground as a laboratory to try and curb its growth. Scientists say they will use a Genesee County campground in Flint this summer to do experiments. Michigan State University researchers have identified about seventy infested ash trees at the campground and plan to use new pesticide treatments on them. Samples will be taken on a regular basis to gauge the impact on ash borer larvae. The ash borer was first discovered in 2002 in Southeast Michigan and since then, an estimated sixteen million trees in our state have been killed by the pest.

The Emerald Ash Borer is now woking in Cranberry Twp.
just north of Pittsburgh PA.
Has made the local news the last few evenings.

I read in the paper last night where the IN DNR has confirmed that we now have ash borer here in norther wells county.  I'm not to surprised.  They move firewood from huntington to wells and wells back to the campground all the time.

Very sad

Hey my grandma lives in CranberryTwp.
I go see her at least once a month or when i can.

Thanks Alot Mr Mom

I heard about the PA infestation this morning on a garden talk show.  The moderator claims all ash trees in PA will be dead in 3 years.  Sounds a little exaggerated to me, but it isn't good news.  Couple the borer with anthracnose  and the situation probably gets worse.

the Maryland Dept. of Agriculture came out and put a trap up at my house recently. 

Pretty much impossible to stop the spread of something with wings once it's been allowed to produce several generations before action is taken. They haven't been able to do it with budworm or pine beetles.  Most of the times we think we are ahead is when the things undergo a natural die off. But, they return some day. ;)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
June 27, 2007
 
AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCES DETECTION OF EMERALD ASH
BORER IN PENNSYLVANIA
HARRISBURG - Emerald Ash Borer, an invasive beetle that
destroys ash trees, has been detected for the first time
in Pennsylvania and a quarantine will be imposed for
Butler, Lawrence, Allegheny and Beaver counties.

Adult beetles were found on an ash tree in Cranberry
Township, Butler County, by U.S. Department of Agriculture
surveyors, through a joint effort by federal and state
agriculture departments, the Department of Conservation
and Natural Resources and Penn State Extension.  The
Emerald Ash Borer has forced similar quarantines in
Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Maryland and Michigan.
"Emerald Ash Borer poses a major threat to ash trees,"
said Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff.  "To best manage
any effects of an infestation, we're working to determine
whether this is an isolated incident or a more widespread
problem."

The new map.  Sorry if it is small / blurry.  I had to compress it to get it into the gallery. 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11842/%7E9477990.jpg)

Estiers
The gallery permits photos much bigger than the one you posted. Limit is 450 pixels longest side, and somewheres around 40,000 bytes in size.

Yours is 160 pixels, and 4930 bytes. So you can make it bigger is you want to.  :)

Or she can send it to me and I can go over the boss's head on size restrictions. I got his number. ;)

http://www.emeraldashborer.info/files/MultiState_EABpos.pdf

Thanks Erin.

Dan, this map is more gooder. ;)

https://forestryforum.com/images/multistate_eab_map.gif

I left the map large so all of it could be read or printed. Its a large file. 300k+

A friend of mine works for the local conservation office.  He called me yesterday to say that EAB has been confirmed in LaSalle County, Illinois. 

Does anyone else have confirmation of that?

http://www.emeraldashborer.info/news/20070712_more_eab_in_pa.cfm

Confirmation...  :(

Pennsylvania has now banned bringing in firewood from outside of PA.  The only exception is kiln dried firewood.  Its a response to the EAB and other wood borers. 

What's going on with this small wasp I heard was supposed to be released?  It is supposed to be a predator for the EAB.

Tim

Just found this on Google.  Should have checked this first.  Here is a link and excerpt of the article.

USDA Study (http://www.jsonline.com/graphics/news/wasps_report.pdf)

B. Biological Control Action (Preferred Alternative)
Under this alternative, APHIS and FS would release three parasitoids for
biocontrol of EAB. The biocontrol agents include one species of egg
parasitoid, Oobius agrili (Hymenoptera: Encyrtidae) (Zhang et al., 2005),
one species of larval endoparasitoid, Tetrastichus planipennisi
(Hymenoptera: Eulophidae) (Liu et al., 2003; Yang et al., 2006), and one
larval ectoparasitoid, Spathius agrili (Hymenoptera: Braconidae) (Yang et
al., 2005). Initial releases of each parasitoid are planned for the summer
of 2007. Releases of these EAB parasitoids are expected to reduce the
population of EAB and slow the spread rate in the United States. This
alternative would reduce but not eradicate EAB in the United States.

Tim

I live in medina county Ohio we now have signs at the county line forbiding the movement of any firewood from the county

Allegheny National Forest Issues Closure Order Due to Emerald Ash Borer

Allegheny Forest Supervisor Kathleen Morse signed a closure order restricting movement of firewood into the Allegheny National Forest (PA) due to the recent Emerald Ash Borer find.  The only exception is firewood originating from Elk, Forest, McKean or Warren Counties surrounding the Forest.  The Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture has quarantined the four counties of Butler, Allegheny, Beaver and Lawrence Counties (south of Interstate-80 and the Forest). 

are there bumper stickers available, and if so, how do you get them?

most folks I talk to about this aren't even remotely aware of the problem.

There are bumper stickers, and they say:

Don't move Firewood
It "Bugs" Me


I have one, from the 2005 Pig Roast. I'm mixed as to whether the message gets out with this sticker (actually a magnetic strip). Some people ask me "What does that mean?", as their curiosity gets the best of them. But I don't think most people have a clue.
However, I also don't know if the curiosity factor works better than a direct message.

I remember when the gypsy moth was moving through PA.  When I was in college, it was pretty well restricted to the Poconos.  Then all of a sudden it appeared in State College, about 100 miles to the west. 

It had the experts pretty much scratching their heads about the quick jump from one area to the next.  It appeared that the moth laid eggs on a RV and that was the transport method.

I was wondering if hitching rides on trucks, cars or RVs might also be a source of transport.  Or do these rascals only reside in the wood?

Yeah insects can hang on pretty good to surfaces like glass. It's not as smooth as you think. I've been sit'n in the car on occasion and notice a couple deer flies on the side mirrors. Start driving off site and they still hang on. Hit the highway and travel 100 km/hr (60 mph) and the buggers are still hanging on.  ;D They are especially good at it if they get out of the wind foil that travels over the surface. So on the surface of your side mirror, the wind pretty much never hits the glass. But, I've also seen beetles cling to windshield and that's getting lots of force in 60 mph wind. That hard wing covering is a pretty good deflector. ;)

I still have my bumper magnet from Sawlex in 05 on my truck.

Had a bug the other day land on my wiper blade and hang on for over a mile while doing 55mph.
Had the thought go through my head about the gypsy moths.

Next day I found a live grasshopper INSIDE my truck, must have come in the open sunroof. ::)
It was expelled from the vehicle at a very high rate of speed,  ;D so I don't really know if it survived the impact with the pavement, but it was transported a pretty good distance from where it probly got in the truck at.

Chippewa and Superior National Forests Issue a Closure Order Preemptive to Emerald Ash Borer

On July 23, Chippewa Forest Supervisor Rob Harper and Superior Forest Supervisor Jim Sanders signed a closure order restricting movement of firewood into the Chippewa and Superior national forests (MN).  This policy supports state legislation passed in Minnesota earlier this year to regulate movement of firewood on lands administered by the state.  Minnesota has the third largest concentration of ash trees in the United States.

Maybe it is time for the National Forests, National Parks, State and County Forests to say "All firewood used at this location must come from witin this location".  Or...to simply state that no fires can be fueled with wood...PERIOD. Then there would be no need to move firewood by campers.

My own gut feeling is that moving firewood about is really not the prime culprit here, but is the easy knee-jerk reaction to the constant movement of the emeral ash borer. But that comes from little appreciation for the problem. To me, it diverts too much attention, funds, and energy towards an insignificant goal.

Just curious, beenthere, as to your opinion of what the "prime culprit" is.

Don't mean to offend anyone with my "opinions"   :)

I don't believe there is a "prime culprit", and it is likely several culprits in combination (Furby's is but one of them, and I think more plausible than firewood).

To me, it's a "feel-good, look we are doing something" solution (and I don't blame those for feeling a need to come up with such solutions).

Our area has CWD (chronic wasting disease) in the cervids (deer) in WI. The "feel good" move was to ban feeding of deer, as they think they transfer the disease that way, and it is something that is visible and can be watched. Then they nail an 80 year old woman for "deer feeding" because her bird feeder was within reach of the deer.  Misdirected efforts of the DNR staff, IMO. And on the other hand, impossible to police (which is what firewood movement happens to be, again "in my opinion").

When i was helping my dad with his roof we saw alot of log trucks going for ohio into pa is there a rule about that??
I dont know if they were hauling any ash trees but it is hard to look at a logs when the log trucks is really moving down the road.
Thanks Alot Mr Mom

Log movement can occur from OH to PA, as long as it isn't ash.  Again, like beenthere said: difficult to police. 

I am not trying to be confrontational here, and I am not offended.  I do like to hear what otehr people have to say.  I do personally believe that firewood is a MAJOR contributor to the spread of EAB.  All I have to do it point to an infestation map.  Most of the "outliers" in upper MI: campgrounds.  First find in Indiana: campground.  Is this coincidence?  Unlike hitchhiking in cars where you are transporting 1 bug, firewood can transport tens to hundreds per piece.

I understand why you think it is a feel good move.  Maybe it is.  But if they were doing nothing, people would complain about that too.

Off my soapbox.

Estiers,
The first at Brimley mi eastern UP campground, was traced back to trees planted from a Detroit nursery in the camp ground.
Also alot of other areas in the northern LP traced to nursery stock from detroit area. So I do really question the Firewood laws. Most areas around here can be traced to stock planted.

Not saying you should not be on your soap box. Most people don't even know what firewood they have. :(

I could get all the oak firewood I want from a friend. But it is loaded with Oak wilt. No laws on transporting that, but I know better. And don't want it here.
But how many logs are getting trucked infected.

http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125--177405--,00.html

There has been another find in the Upper Peninsula.  This time in Chippewa County, about 15 miles north of the bridge.

http://wvgazette.com/section/News/2007101928

EAB confirmed in Fayette County, West Virginia

Other Buprestidae with D-shape exit holes

Bronze birch Borer (http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hfp/publications/00198/bronze_birch_borer.htm) Adults begin to emerge in June in BC.

Bronze Poplar Borer  (http://www.forestpests.org/borers/bronzepoplar.html) Adults begin to emerge in June in Canada. Infestation by this borer increases the incidence of hypoxylon canker.

Bur Oak decline in Manitoba (http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/Brochures/OakDecline.asp) Two-Lined Chestnut Borer.

SD - Am I wrong to think that those mentioned DO NOT attack ash?  So D-shaped holes in North American ash is a BAD BAD thing?

No not wrong, about the ash. Just mentioned that other bugs make the same kind of holes and hopefully someone seeing the exit holes in other tree species won't confuse it for emerald ash borer. I have not read that any other species of buprestid attacking ash has a D-shaped exit hole. The Golden Buprestid attacks many species of wood, but leaves oval exit holes for example.

THIRD EAB IDENTIFICATION FOUND IN THE U.P. 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                     CONTACT: Jim Bowes, MDA, (517) 373-5355   
November 1, 2007                                                bowesj@michigan.gov
           
Emerald Ash Borer Infestation Confirmed in the U.P.
Infestation Located in Straits State Park in St. Ignace

LANSING - Michigan's Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) Response team confirmed an EAB infestation at the Straits State Park in St. Ignace located in Mackinac County.  This Upper Peninsula (U.P.) discovery was made during the removal and inspection of a 2007 detection tree established by Michigan Tech University.

Over the next several weeks, MDA crews will be conducting intensive surveys in a half-mile area around the St. Ignace site to determine the extent of EAB infestation.  The results of those surveys will determine what action the state will take.

EAB is an exotic, aggressive beetle native to Asia and was discovered in southeast Michigan in 2002.  To date, the pest is responsible for the death or damage of approximately 25 million ash trees in Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, and Ontario, Canada.

Residents are encouraged to continue to report suspect EAB infestations in the U.P. by calling the toll-free EAB hotline at 866-325-0023.

For more information about EAB, please visit www.michigan.gov/eab or www.emeraldashborer.info. Residents may also contact their regional MDA office or their local Michigan State University extension or conservation district office.

# # #

I just sawed some Ash logs that I'm pretty sure are infestede with the EAB. You could see large tracks cut into the sap wood going pretty much the whole length of the log. I got these logs from an area that I havent previously seen as EAB quarentine area. I got them from northern Cass county.
Is there anything I should do like report this to some one? What should I do with the slab wood? burn it?

Quote from: estiers on October 02, 2006, 03:40:30 PM
The FEDERAL quarantine has changed to quarantine the entire Lower Peninsula of Michigan.  The interior quarantine is still being maintained by the state, so movement within the peninsula will still have a regulated and quarantined area.

Link to Oct 2007 State Quarantine Map  (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mda/mda_EAB_Quarantine_Map_195028_7.pdf)

Region Approves Emerald Ash Borer Project (Reported by the USDA-Forest Service)

In late October, the Rocky Mountain Region State and Private Forestry began work on a million-dollar multi-year grant with state forestry agencies in Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota.  The agency and states will develop a regional defense to prepare for the emerald ash borer's (EAB) western migration.  Detected in southeast Michigan in 2002, EAB is a non-native beetle that attacks and kills ash species, including white, green, black, and autumn purple ash.  To date the beetle is present in Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, and Ontario, Canada, where over 25 million ash trees have died.  The initiative is in the forefront of forest health management, working across political boundaries and landscapes, which represents a new direction to help states and federal partners work together to prepare for this significant threat.

Does anyone have a good picture of this pest? >:( I'd like to include it in one of my lectures.

USFS or Forestry Canada usually have a few photos, gallery style.

http://ceris.purdue.edu/napis/pests/eab/EAB%20Poster.pdf

http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu/products/gallery/agrpl1.html

Seeing as I'm not sure about the forum rules on linking I sure hope I'm not breaking them  ::)
I'll see if I can find them after I post this  ;D   :P

The first doesn't seem to have any 'credit' required for it's use.  The second includes photo credits, so you'll have to look in to that if you do use them.

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10166/eab_galleries2.jpg)

No charge  ;D
let me know if you need a better one, I have alot of wood with the bug here
Todd

ALL OF MACKINAC COUNTY UNDER EAB QUARANTINE

February 4, 2008                                                             
Michigan Revises Quarantine to Prevent Further Spread of EAB
Quarantine now includes all of Mackinac County in the U.P.
                         
LANSING - Michigan Department of Agriculture (MDA) Director Don Koivisto today announced an amendment to the state's Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) interior quarantine to help prevent the further spread of the exotic insect in the Upper Peninsula (U.P.).

Effective immediately, Michigan's EAB interior quarantine has been revised to include all of Mackinac County in the U.P. In fall 2007, EAB infestations were discovered near the Village of Moran and Straits State Park in St. Ignace.  The Mackinac County quarantine is divided into two levels: the City of St. Ignace and the townships of Moran, Brevort, and St. Ignace are quarantine Level II; and the remaining portions of Mackinac County are quarantine Level III.

Why does it seem to me that putting an area under a quarantine AFTER the EAB is discovered, is like shutting the barn door AFTER the horse got out... ::) ::) ::)

Maybe they are trying to keep the infested wood from leaving. It's impossible to keep the bugs from getting in or out in my opinion. They have wings, although they aren't likely flying too much in winter.

Maybe a light or two at the end of the tunnel??

http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/02/genesee_county_may_hold_key_to.html

USDA APHIS is undertaking a National Emerald Ash Borer trapping initiative this summer.  Among sites that we are interested in trapping at are sawmills and wood waste sites.  I hope that if you are approached by your local APHIS or State Department of Agriculture / Natural resources official, that you would be willing to allow them use of one of your trees for this project.  If you have any additional questions about the program see the below link, or feel free to contact me directly.  If you are dying to have a trap on your site, especially if you are OUTSIDE of the infested area, please PM me your information and I will pass it on to the appropriate people.  Thanks!

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/plant_pest_info/emerald_ash_b/index.shtml

http://www.usagnet.com/story-national.php?Id=1002&yr=2008

Not sure where the money is coming from... but they are asking for it.

At least a small bright moment.

http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=161380

That brings to mind a day, in my youth, when adults just did stuff.  Do you realize that a wood baseball bat goes for over a hundred dollars now.  Out of reach of kids and most hobbiests.  In the days I mention, the adults would make bats and they would just show up at the Little League field or in the bat bag of their son's team. 

By the same token, if the 5th grade classroom needed to be painted, it would just happen one weekend, no bid, no bill.

Kick balls and softballs appeared when the budgets got low.  Extra sandwiches went to school in case someone didn't have anything to eat.

Parents came to watch Little League practices as well as the games.  The games drew an audience even from those who had no kids.

Kids had things to do. There was Pony League and American Legion ball as well as High School teams practicing and playing.   We were incouraged to go, not hidden in our home.

It's a different world we've created in just these short few years.  Seeing the men make those bats brings back memories.  :)

Throw a piece of wood on the lathe and turn your own bat. If it breaks, who cares make another. Wouldn't take much more than an hour.  ;)

This came out today.  Post is here : http://www.pestalert.org/oprDetail.cfm?oprID=323

Date posted: 06/27/2008
Contact: Not available.
June 26, 2008 – The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) has confirmed the presence of the emerald ash borer (Agrilus planipennis Fairmaire) (EAB) in the Montérégie region of Quebec.

EAB does not spread quickly on its own. In fact, it is most commonly spread when people move materials which it has infested. Moving these materials even just a few kilometres away can spread the emerald ash borer to new areas.

The Government of Canada is working hard with provinces and municipalities to limit the spread of the emerald ash borer. The CFIA will be carrying out increased surveying of trees in the area to determine the extent of the infestation and affected property owners will be notified. Regulatory measures to control this pest will be taken based on information obtained through the surveys. The CFIA continues to work with its partners and stakeholders toward the goal of slowing the spread of this destructive pest.

Under IPPC Standards (e.g., ISPM No. 8), EAB is considered present (only in some areas of Ontario and one area of Quebec) and subject to official control in Canada.

Additional information is available on the CFIA web site at www.inspection.gc.ca.

My wife was just going through some old papers to take out and spotted an article in last Friday's Indianapolis Star.  Seems Purdue is researching with a stingerless wasp from China that lays its eggs on the eggs of the beetle.  As the young develop, they kill the eggs of the beetle.  In China, the wasp has reduced beetle populations on ash native to North America by 74 percent.  200 were released a week ago near Huntington, Indiana in an ash forest.  MSU has just finished a study with no conclusions yet and OSU has just started one.  Has anyone heard anymore on this?

JV
Seems as though it's good news  8)  but they aren't certain that it's not just a fluke and the wasps are using the EAB as a host instead of some other species that they normally use. Either way, it does look promising! But we all know how bringing in natural predators sometimes creates its own set of problems..................

Yeah, a couple come to mind.   :-\

http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/news/releases-a/071608eab.shtml

Fairfax County, VA placed under EAB quarantine after 2 new infested areas found.

"Tree-Killing Beetle Found in Ottawa"

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/07/25/ot-ashborer-080725.html

Where I live, Grant County, is likely to become quarantined, from what I've heard.
I'm starting to see the purple traps everywhere.
I hope ash burns good, cause we have alot, and if they are killed then it looks like we'll have a steady supply of firewood. :-\

I Saw an eab trap in a state campground last week, its the 1st one that I have seen.

When will the info frm the traps be available?

Traps are still up and will probably remain up through August.  Information should be available then.  As to how it will be available, that is the $1,000,000 question.

Looks like they have made it into Missouri. Just had this e-mailed to me from the Missouri Dept. of Conservation. Sure hate to see this. Conservation seems to think it is due to out of state visitors bringing their own fire wood to the campgrounds.

Discovery of forest pest triggers state, federal response.
The emerald ash borer could be devastating to Missouri trees.
WAPPAPELLO LAKE-State and federal officials are working overtime to determine the extent of an emerald ash borer infestation at Wappapello Lake and to develop a strategy for containing the problem. The infestation came to light July 23 when U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) scientists discovered seven suspicious beetles on traps at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Greenville Recreation Area in Wayne County. Officials with the USDA confirmed the identity of the insects Friday.
Collin Wamsley, state entomologist with the Missouri Department ofAgriculture, said his agency and the Missouri departments ofConservation and Natural Resources are prepared to deal with the infestation. Before proceeding, however, both state and federal agencies need to determine its extent.
  "Although it is a disappointment to find the early detection of the emerald ash borer, it is not a surprise," said Wamsley. "We have been preparing for an event like this for some time. Right now, we are doing what we can to determine the location of the emerald ash borer. We hope to have that information soon and begin the next steps in battling this pest."

http://datcp.state.wi.us/press_release/result.jsp?prid=2199

Wisconsin has confirmed EAB.

EAB CONFIRMED IN LAURIUM

Here is some information on the Houghton Co, Michigan EAB find and site.

On August 4, Mike Schira, MSU County Extension Director for Houghton and Keweenaw Counties sent an email indicating that he had responded to a homeowner call about dead and declining ash trees in Laurium, MI. He had visited the site and reported seeing various EAB symptoms on the trees, including exit holes, bark splitting and sprouting. That afternoon Andrew Storer visited the site with Mike Hyslop from MIchigan Tech with the goal of collecting a life stage. They submitted 3 larvae to Jim Zablotny who confirmed that they were EAB. They revisited the site with others from Storer's lab and started to map the ash trees and to try to get an idea of the scale of the infestation. During that time they collected an adult beetle and hung a purple trap.

The site is an abandoned cemetery and has a range of different tree species on it. All of the ash appeared to be black ash. In an area of least one acre there are at least 50 currently infested or previously infested trees. There are a number of dead trees, trees with dieback in their canopy and trees in with overall canopy decline. There are a lot of small diameter stems and some trees in the 5-9 inch dbh range. Based on the conditions of the trees EAB has clearly been there for a number of years. Of 29 trees we have information on, 19 were infested based on ground survey. This survey only included 3" or larger trees. Some of the smaller trees were also clearly infested.

Bill Cook MSU Extension

NYS has banned the movement of firewood more than fifty miles.

Stonebroke

No bans yet here between NB and Quebec. They'll just wait until it arrives to react as usual. I made suggestions a while back on a radio program via email and their answer was to respond after it arrives to an area and within a fixed area around it. Kind of ash backward to my way of thinking, since we know it is progressing outside quarantine areas.  They never even made mention of any detection program with the traps you folks use in the US. I guess we don't have the resources or the will up here. After all as the judge said in a court case over wood theft, "it's just trees". ::)

Yeah, but they are mine.  >:(

EAB IN THE KEWEENAW 

As I'm sure many of you have heard an Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) outbreak location has been identified on the Keweenaw Peninsula near Calumet/Laurium.

In recent conversation with Michigan Department of Agriculture (MDA) there was little doubt that a quarantine of some level/s will be in place soon in Houghton and Keweenaw Counties restricting the movement of any loads of wood with ash in them.  Most likely target date for this to go into effect is on or around September 1, 2008.

As there are a few levels of quarantine and no "official" determination has been announced at this time I'd suggest those of you interested/impacted visit the MDA web site in emerald ash borer http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125-1568_2390_18298---,00.html to get details of "to-do's" and "to-don't's" with regards to the different quarantine zones  [Note:  also good EAB information at www.emeraldashborer.info]. 

As those of you on the east end of the UP are well aware of, there is an opportunity to move loads of wood products from the quarantine  zones (subject to seasonal restrictions) containing ash subject to compliance agreements with the MDA...both producers and mills receiving the wood need to have these compliance agreements in place. (more info on these agreements is also available in the MDA web site.)

As this new area is in my home county I'm doing my best to keep track of developments so please fell free to contact me if I can be of any assistance.  I'd also suggest you contact David White with MDA office in Marquette for assistance/information as well ( 906) 228-9998 or email whited@michigan.gov.

mike

Michael D. Schira
County Extension Director: Houghton-Keweenaw Counties
1500 Birch Street
Hancock, MI 49930
(906) 482-5830
fax (906) 487-5960

We're now surrounded on three sides by quarantined counties. I'm losing a lot of ash this year but not to the bore. I sure hope that the wasp that they found laying eggs on the larvae
gets it into gear!!!!!!!

EMERALD ASH BORER FOUND NEAR SAULT, ONTARIO

Associated Press
September 22, 2008, 4:58 PM CDT

SAULT STE. MARIE, Ontario -- The Canadian Food Inspection Agency has confirmed the presence of the emerald ash borer in northern Ontario.

The complete article can be viewed at:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-mi-tree-killingbeetl,0,6959699.story

Visit chicagotribune.com at http://www.chicagotribune.com

EAB IN DELTA COUNTY, GARDEN PENINSULA

For Immediate Release: October 8, 2008                             
Contact: Jennifer Holton, 517-241-2485 or holtonj@michigan.gov
Michigan Department of Agriculture     
                                           
Emerald Ash Borer Confirmed in Delta County

LANSING - Michigan's Cooperative Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) Response Project partners today confirmed an EAB infestation was discovered in Delta County in the Upper Peninsula (U.P.) by personnel from the United States Department of Agriculture-Forest Service (USDA-FS).  The infestation is located in Garden Township along U.S. Highway 2 near the Village of Garden Corners.

"The discovery of EAB in Delta County is disappointing, but not unexpected," said Ken Rauscher, Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division Director, Michigan Department of Agriculture. "We are currently reviewing the Delta County infestation and are considering quarantine and management options."

The other known infestations in the U.P. are located in Mackinac County near Moran and St. Ignace, just north of the Mackinac Bridge.  These sites are being used as pilot mitigation projects as part of cooperative Slow Ash Mortality (SlAM) efforts sponsored by USDA.  Additionally, there is an EAB infestation near the Village of Laurium in Calumet Township in Houghton County.

Emerald Ash Borer is an exotic, aggressive beetle native to Asia and was discovered in southeast Michigan in 2002. To date, the pest is responsible for the death or damage of approximately 25 million ash trees in Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Missouri, Virginia, Wisconsin, West Virginia, and Ontario, Canada. Individuals or businesses found violating the state's EAB quarantine are subject to fines ranging from $1,000 to $250,000 and jail time of up to five years for moving regulated ash materials, as well as all species of hardwood firewood.

Residents are encouraged to continue to report suspect EAB infestations in the U.P. by calling the toll-free EAB hotline at 866-325-0023. For more information about EAB, please visit www.michigan.gov/eab or www.emeraldashborer.info . Residents may also contact their regional MDA office or their local Michigan State University extension or conservation district office.

###

Robin M. Usborne
Communications Manager
Michigan State University
312 Agriculture Hall
East Lansing, MI  48824
ph: 517-432-1555 x 169
fax: 517-355-1804
www.emeraldashborer.info

EMERALD ASH BORER DETECTED NEAR COOKS (SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTY) 

For Immediate Release: October 30, 2008                           
Contact: Jennifer Holton, 517-241-2485 or holtonj@michigan.gov
                                                             
Emerald Ash Borer Confirmed in Schoolcraft County

LANSING - Michigan's Cooperative Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) Response Project partners today confirmed an EAB infestation in Schoolcraft County in the Upper Peninsula (U.P.). The infestation was discovered by Michigan Department of Agriculture (MDA) staff during inspection of ash trees located immediately adjacent to the most recent EAB find in Delta County. The Schoolcraft County infestation is located in Inwood Township near the Village of Cooks, south of U.S. Highway 2. "Due to its close proximity to the Delta County infestation, the discovery of EAB in Schoolcraft County was not unanticipated, however, it is still disappointing," said Ken Rauscher, MDA's Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division Director. "We are currently reviewing the Schoolcraft and Delta County infestation and are considering quarantine and management options for the entire State of Michigan."  The other known EAB infestations in the U.P. are located in Mackinac, and Houghton, Counties. In 2005, an EAB infestation at Brimley State Park marked the first time EAB had been found in the U.P. The Brimley infestation was eradicated through removal of all ash host material in the area. Individuals or businesses found violating the state's EAB quarantine are subject to fines ranging from $1,000 to $250,000 and jail time of up to five years for moving regulated ash materials, as well as all species of hardwood firewood. Residents are encouraged to continue to report suspect EAB infestations in the U.P. by calling the toll-free EAB hotline at 866-325-0023. For more information about EAB, please visit www.michigan.gov/eab or www.emeraldashborer.info. Residents may also contact their regional MDA office or their local Michigan State University Extension or Conservation District office.

I started seeing the purple trianlges that jeff was talking about around here in Ashtabula Ohio.

Thanks Alot Mr Mom

Who can help to understand, if I treat ash lumber 450°F and than plain it for deck board or siding may such a product leave the quarantine territory?

Quote from: Thermodecking on November 19, 2008, 08:41:41 PM
Who can help to understand, if I treat ash lumber 450°F and than plain it for deck board or siding may such a product leave the quarantine territory?

I do not believe there are any restrictions on movement of kiln dried ash lumber. However if you heat it to 450 deg F you may get some thermal degrading and some of the gasses produced may autoignite. Heat treatment at 180 deg F will kill all bugs.

Dear Sir or Madam,

We are looking for lumber companies in Ohio region, who is badly affected economically due to emerald ash borer quarantine.

We could be interested to buy infested lumber, or help them to implement our technology what is best chance to safe the business.

Please, advise the right direction to get in touch with officials, who may consider our  technology and know-how as a solution to safe labors in the lumber sector.

Yours,

Ilya Frolov
267.632.8047

Yes, it can leave, BUT it has to be certified before it can leave.  This involves calling the EAB office and making an appointment for them to come out and verify treatment and give you the paperwork.  This will occur at no cost to you.  PM me with your name and number and I can forward it on to the proper officials.

Quote from: estiers on November 21, 2008, 10:39:34 AM
  PM me with your name and number and I can forward it on to the proper officials.

Thank you! I've just been contacted by Tim Deppen from Emerald Ash Borer Specialist, Ohio Department of Agriculture. Anyway, please find as below:

Ilya Frolov, GM, if@westwoodcorporation.com Cell: 267.632.8047

Very good.  ODA should be able to help you with what you need.

Not sure if this link has been posted on here yet - there's some information and an interactive quarantine map.

http://www.stopthebeetle.info/ (http://www.stopthebeetle.info/)

Appears all the work to control it hasn't paid off very well.

Seems we should just save the big bucks at this point.  ::)

I've a feeling that firewood as been an easy target to get excited about, but that it isn't the big transporter into new areas.

My father's snow blower for the lawn mower was shipped on an ash pallet. Now I don't know if it was kilned wood, it was rough grade. The blower, I'm sure came from southern Ontario. Whether or not from a quarantined area who knows but I know the area around Montreal is now an EAB area. So it's moving east. Who knows, a pregnant female could just land on a vehicle, crawl into a crevice and hitch a ride, crawl out and go into flight in a new area. Ever see a deer fly hang onto a mirror while driving down the road 60 miles an hour? ;D

Ok so the way I read this is, the Quarantine Restrictions are these
The emerald ash borer in any living stage of development
        Ash trees of any size
        Ash limbs and branches
        Any cut, non-coniferous firewood
        Bark from ash trees and wood chips larger than one inch from ash trees
        Ash logs and lumber with either the bark or the outer one inch of sapwood, or both, attached
        Any item made from or containing the wood of the ash tree that is capable of spreading the emerald ash borer
        Any other article, product or means of conveyance determined by the Illinois Department of Agriculture to present a risk of spreading the beetle infestation

So does that mean that if your boards are cut so that they dont have any bark on them and the outermost 1" of the sap wood is cut away that they are not a regulated material?

Also the Illinois EAB website states the outermost 1" must be removed, but the compliance agreement say's the outermost 1/2", any idea which one it really is?

Sigh...I knew this day would come but I was really hoping it would be a few years in the future.  It has been confirmed that EAB is here in Monroe County.  A trap tree in the Hardin Ridge area of the Hoosier National Forest was found to harbor EAB.
I have some extremely beautiful ash trees in my woods.  I hate to cut them and attempt to sell the lumber in this market.
Can ash be put into RR ties and sold if we become quarantined?
:'(

Quote from: Kevin_H. on November 25, 2008, 05:36:00 PM

So does that mean that if your boards are cut so that they dont have any bark on them and the outermost 1" of the sap wood is cut away that they are not a regulated material?

Also the Illinois EAB website states the outermost 1" must be removed, but the compliance agreement say's the outermost 1/2", any idea which one it really is?

Kevin - Yes that is what this means.  However, you will need an inspection to confirm that fact, and they will have to travel with a certificate to verify the inspection.

As for your other question: 1/2 inch is the federal quarantine rule.  1 inch is the State of Illinois quarantine rule.  Not sure why the CA with the State does not follow its own rule, but that is what seems to be the case...

Thanks for the answers, 95% of what we saw is ash, so far it hasnt made it down here yet, but I expect it any time, the few traps that were up, appearenty did not produce anything.

Does anyone know what the Ash Borer will eat when the Ash trees are all gone?

Maple? Oak?

Or do they almost vanish while eating ash seedlings till the seedlings get big?

Up in my part of the country I see ash being as resilient as balsam fir. It's everywhere in my area. It's not up on ridge tops, but on well watered ground there is no end to it.  And where it gets too wet for white, black takes over. It's on every line fence on farms, and in any aspen stand and aspen is even more abundant. So at this point I suppose it would be pure speculation for me to make any call on it. It's not infected us up here, yet. But, with governments reactionary approach, as apposed to prevention, it's inevitable we will get it here. Borders between provinces aren't even closed to firewood movement and no effort that I've heard of to spot check campers. Except for parks in more boreal settings, every campground in the settlements near here has ash of one species or another here in potato farming country.

Quote from: routestep on March 05, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Does anyone know what the Ash Borer will eat when the Ash trees are all gone?

Maple? Oak?

Or do they almost vanish while eating ash seedlings till the seedlings get big?

that is my question, what happens when the ash are gone??  What other species do they like to eat??

NEW WOOD BIOMASS ENERGY FEASIBILITY GRANT AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL FACILITIES

The Southeast Michigan Resource Conservation and Development Council has been working since 2004 to identify value-added uses for urban wood residues, driven largely by the need for wood disposal options following the state's emerald ash borer outbreak. At this time, the Council is allocating $3,000 in grant funding to assist an institution or business in evaluating opportunities for using locally generated wood residues as a biomass energy source. The funds will allow a building manager to hire a qualified contractor to preliminarily review the feasibility of retrofitting or replacing an existing boiler or other energy system to accommodate wood fuel.

The grantee will be expected to follow a tight timeline, with assessments to be completed shortly after the award announcement. Funding preference will be given to local governments, public institutions, community facilities, and/or private businesses within the Southeast Michigan RC&D Council area (Lenawee, Macomb, Monroe, Oakland, St. Clair, Washtenaw, and Wayne Counties), although others are eligible to apply.   Proposals should be submitted by May 1, 2009.  The Council anticipates making a single grant award of $3,000.

Funding for this program comes from the USDA Forest Service Northeastern Area State and Private Forestry.

For more information, please see the complete Request for Proposals at: http://semircd.org/ash/news/BoilerMinigrantRFP0409.pdf

The Michigan Wood Energy website < http://michiganwoodenergy.org/> may also be helpful for those considering submitting an application.  The site features the Wood Energy Calculator, which allows users to generate cost savings estimates for switching to wood as a boiler fuel, and a copy of "Exploring Woody Biomass Retrofit Opportunities in Michigan Boiler Operations," the new report from CTA Architects and Engineers that looks at statewide potential for wood systems.  This report lists over 2,000 public and private facilities in Michigan that would be likely to see significant cost savings by switching to wood fuel.

More information can also be obtained by contacting:

Jessica Simons
Natural Resources Specialist
Southeast Michigan
Resource Conservation & Development Council
7203 Jackson Road
Ann Arbor, MI  48103-9506
Cell: (517)851-2372
E-mail: jessica.simons@semircd.org
Web: www.semircd.org/ash

afor those of you who have not heard, Vernon County Wisconsin (SE WI).  This county is on the Mississippi River very close to both Minnesota and Iowa.  Minnesota has quarantined Houston County in response to this find.  To date, EAB has not been found in MN.

The EAB has been confirmed in MN today http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_12370431

And now "Agriculture officials say they plan to issue a quarantine prohibiting the movement of firewood, ash nursery stock and ash timber in Ramsey and Hennepin counties. "

I'm thinking that a quarantine is a bit too late.  ::) ::)

Seems it was a lesson that could have been learned back in Michigan and Ohio. Sorry to sound so negative, but the plan to slow or stop the spread of EAB is not working.
Inevitable that we will lose the ash trees. Gotta just play the music soft and slow now.  :( :(

The quarantines have never worked  ::)  :(

  its sad to say but there already late on the draw!! those little buggers are here and have been here far a couple years already!!!!  i live in cass county which is close to center of the state and i have seen them for that long...eab, has not become that easy to spot but when your in the woods everyday you come across them often....so like usual a day late and plenty of trees short coming soon.

The approach has been reactive more than proactive. There isn't enough man power to even begin to enforce it to begin with. Trees are not high on the priority and no way they could be. Eat'n, keep'n warm, health care and school'n come way before.

I just got the latest newsletter from the MN DNR and the first story was about the EAB being found in MN and the story started with the words "the inevitable."

So like beenthere is saying, what's the point of all the excitement. Apparently there is little we can now do to stop or even slow the EAB down, so why keep jumping thru these hoops?

  true that !! the calls are starting to come in for ash removel , only thing is if we bring home these trees for firewood and dont mix it with other species ? will the dnr put a hold on all firewood sales to try and stop the expansion of E.A.B. ?

EAB INSECTICIDE OPTIONS

This is passed along from Robin Usborne, EAB Communications Manager at MSU.  The PDF is 8 pages long. 

===================================
Using insecticides to manage EAB is possible, and guidelines on if, when, and how to use them are now available in a downloadable bulletin, created  by researchers from five states.

Called "Insecticide Options for Protecting Ash Trees from Emerald Ash Borer," this bulletin covers the various products that can be used effectively in ash trees, and gives guidelines on their use -- or even when it may be wise not to use them.

The bulletin can be found on the www.emeraldashborer.info site. Printed copies for distribution will be available soon.
===================================

I live in south Michigan and about six years ago moved approximately 70 miles between homes. The first place had many ash trees and all were infected and all were eventually removed, as were the neighbors. In the coarse of moving I had some brick left over from a project that I planned to use at the new place. It was common house brick with eight holes in each. I was so surprised to see two eab's among the brick! Each came from a hole in a brick!! Eab's don't solely rely on wood transport to move around, I found out!! Not to mention they do fly! They are a scourge, alright and remind me of the blight that took down the American Elm decades ago.

Kentucky has fallen to the Green Menace.

http://pest.ca.uky.edu/EXT/EAB/welcome.html

It has been found in Clayton County here in Iowa.

They found it at the Osborne Welcome Center.

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2009/06/05/news/breaking_news/doc4a28f7439854e044835248.txt

Emerald Ash Bore is now found in Fayette County, West Virginia.



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/emerald_ash_bore_w_va.JPG)

It has now been found in Morgan County WV. That's my county, so to speak.

It's beginning to look like time to kiss our collective ashes good-bye  >:( :'(

Emerald Ash Borer Discovered in New York

The US Department of Agriculture's Agricultural Research Service in Washington, DC, announced official identification of the emerald ash borer in New York State on June 18 after receiving and examining specimens sent by Cornell researchers.

For more information, visit the website of Cornell University.

E-Forester

NEW EAB PUBLICATION

"Insecticide Options for Protecting Ash Trees from Emerald Ash Borer"

http://www.emeraldashborer.info/files/Multistate_EAB_Insecticide_Fact_Sheet.pdf

Yesterday, the local TV in Presque Isle, Maine had an interview with a Forest Service fellow who told people to please not transport firewood into Maine or from outside the location you are visiting or camping. They were talking some on the ash borer and spruce long-horn beetle.

The parks here in NB we camped at mostly were way out in the back country and you were pretty much on your own. Firewood was readily available rotting along roadside from clear cuts. Easy to pick up some nice dry birch for the fire pit. Mostly we never even had a camp fire, just a Coleman stove. ;D

Ash Borer Battle Underway

July 16 – According to the Evanston Review, Evanston and US Forest Service officials have turned to a parasitic insect in the fight against the emerald ash borer. Evanston was selected as one of two test sites (Chicago is the other) for the experimental treatment.

For more information, visit the Evanston Review website.

E-Forester

I've been following the EAB closely here in Wisconsin... thought I'd share the latest... EAB reaches Green Bay...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/51881957.html

Here is the latest find in Kenosha Wisconsin...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/53082857.html

Why are you following it closely? Do you have timber to manage that has ash?  or ash on a woodlot?

Just curious.

I'm following it closely because of the quantity of ash in the area, local parks, and friends wood lots (60% in one case).  I'm helping one friend who has a large quantity of ash on his lot decide if it is worth treating some or all of them... I'd rather have the conversation now, rather than showing up with my saw to remove the trees after the fact.  If replacements are planted now, they can be established by the time the ash are on their way out.

Quote from: glennschumann on September 02, 2009, 10:45:59 AM
.................  If replacements are planted now, they can be established by the time the ash are on their way out.

How much time do you figure that will be?

And these woodlots are located where in WI, and what treatments are you considering?
If spraying, do you need to spray just the base of the tree, or a drench over the roots, or aerial spray to get at the tops?


Curious here.  :)

These just came through my inbox...

Quote from: Ron Scott on July 20, 2009, 05:32:05 PM
Ash Borer Battle Underway

July 16 – According to the Evanston Review, Evanston and US Forest Service officials have turned to a parasitic insect in the fight against the emerald ash borer. Evanston was selected as one of two test sites (Chicago is the other) for the experimental treatment.

For more information, visit the Evanston Review website.

E-Forester

I hope this idea of using ,one thing to kill another doesn't backfire like in the past ! I had also heard last summer that EAB was found in western Ma . Is this fact or just hear say ? By the looks these thing are traveling at an incredible rate .I had another post that I started asking question on in this forum about controlling the spread ,this seems like a new epidemic per say . I am glad to have the insight as I am sure they will hit the eastern most coast by this time next year , with the information here i hope to check with my local forest service for some pretreatment idea's . Again thanks all for this important info !

Maybe you can get some more EAB INFORMATION HERE (http://www.emeraldashborer.info/surveyinfo.cfm).

Quote from: motohed on December 18, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
I had also heard last summer that EAB was found in western Ma . Is this fact or just hear say ?

Massachussetts has not had a positive EAB.  Perhaps you are talking about the ALB (Asian Longhorned Beetle) find in the Worcester / Boylston area?

Quote from: estiers on December 18, 2009, 12:43:15 PM

Quote from: motohed on December 18, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
I had also heard last summer that EAB was found in western Ma . Is this fact or just hear say ?

Massachussetts has not had a positive EAB.  Perhaps you are talking about the ALB (Asian Longhorned Beetle) find in the Worcester / Boylston area?

Yes , I am sure that was the case . I also want to thanks Tom for the informative link , I have spent the entire afternoon reading and checking information . I had heard about the potential danger about two years ago , I have also participated in sampling ,because I also own a campground . This is two fold for me being involved with logging and the potential for the insects to be transported in from other states , IE Firewood etc .  I am sure you see my concerns , along with trying to not be part of the problem. I would rather help with the cure .

               Thanks Scott

well bout 6 weeks ago where i live was quarantined no ash outta the co w/o being inspected. the guys i work for had jsut cit a road down the side of a steep bank to get to the rest of the timber .. got that phone call kinda put the clinkers to that b/c ash was all that was left .. loggings some business aint it  :D

NA & NRS: Symposium on Ash in North America

The Northeastern Area, Northern Research Station and Purdue University are teaming up to present a "Symposium on Ash in North America," March 9-11. As emerald ash borer infestations expand, North American ash species face a fate similar to American elm and chestnut. Some areas have already experienced massive ash mortality while many other areas anticipate the same results in years to come. This symposium will examine the value of ash from an economic, environmental, and social/cultural context, and methods to address the challenges to communities, industry, and the environment created by the current threats to the ash resource in North America. http://www.fnr.purdue.edu/ashsymposium

The Chief's Newsletter

There have been a series of webinars on EAB available for viewing.  You can see them at http://www.emeraldashborer.info/eab_university.cfm

The next webinar is February 11 at 11:00 Eastern Time. The topic is woodlot management strategies for owners facing, or soon to be facing EAB infestations.  You can sign up to view the live webinar at the above site, or click on the link at a later date to watch the show.

it is my understanding that as long as I debark 2-4" into the infested tree that the rest of the tree can be milled for lumber.
Is this correct? I also know there is some paperwork involved if taking the sawn lumber out of the quarantined area, does anyone have the contact info for that.

thank you very much for all the responces and info    :)

sorry to include the quarantined area is in southeastern Michigan. thx

Woeboy - The quarantine states that you need to remove the bark PLUS an additional 1/2 inch of wood.  Depending on the thickness of the bark, 2-4 inches may be sufficient, or may not.  If you are doing this one time, you can call the program and have an inspection done and get the paperwork.  If you ar planning on doing this multiple times, it may be more efficient to get a Compliance Agreement.  Either way, you can call the program.  I will PM you the phone number to the office.

I can understand removing the bark +1/2" if you aren't going to mill the log. Otherwise you will remove over 2" of wood just squaring up the cant.

Ed

Ed - I do not claim to be a sawyer, as I have never milled anything in my life.  I have, however, inspected my fair share of ash logs, lumber, cants, etc. for compliance with the EAB quarantine and can tell you that wane is a big problem in the cants and lumber.  To meet EAB quarantine standards, the material has to be wane free, and free of any of the sapwood that in untreated ash often shows up as pink in color. 

Now, we can debate whether or not an inspector can tell if you removed 1/2 inch versus 1/8 inch... But 1/2 inch is in the Federal Quarantine rules.

MTU $650,000 GRANT TO REDUCE EAB IMPACT IN UP

http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2010/march/story24701.html

EAB WEBINAR

Meeting Name: What Happens After Ash Is Gone? Planning Diversity
Invited By: Robin Usborne (robinu1@msu.edu)
When:  1 April 2010, 11:00 - 12:00 Eastern Standard Time
                                    10:00 AM to 11:00 AM Central Time

To join the meeting:
http://breeze.msu.edu/ashdiversity/

So now that MIch. has had a little experience. What do you recommend to landowners in the east not affected yet? My tendency would be to cut every ash I could sell as quickly as possible and come back and get the other ones for firewood later.

Stonebroke

EAB confirmed on the campus of Lake Superior State University.  My alumni. 
http://lssu.edu/whats_new/articles.php?articleid=1974

Ash Borer Sighting Inevitable

Marietta Times (Ohio, 4/29) - According to the Ohio Department of Agriculture, the emerald ash borer has been spotted in 48 of Ohio's 88 counties, and 18 additional counties have been added to the quarantine list.

The E-Forester

EAB has invaded Iowa.
http://www.emeraldashborer.info/iowainfo.cfm

I noticed just yesterday that the EAB traps are being put out again in this area!

I just heard on the news this week that an emerald ash borer has been found on one of the traps set in Centre County, PA  :(  Not that I'll have much fodder for them anyway, something has been killing my ash trees for years (not the EAB).  What a shame, it's such a wonderful wood to work with, especially with hand tools...

EAB in Tennessee (http://news.tennesseeanytime.org/node/5629)

Showed up here a few weeks ago (at I had just noticed it) , so here we go.

Ironwood :-\

From the NYDEC website
  Emerald Ash Borer

Emerald ash borer has been found in Cattaraugus, Steuben, Ulster, Livingston and Greene Counties.

That is from one end of the state to the other with a big skip in the middle.

It's now been found in Tennessee, West VA and VA, just a few miles from me.

As the EAB moves south, it has developed new symptoms.  If you put your ear to an infested tree, you can hear faint banjo music.  The D-shaped exit holes are easier to find because they exude tobacco juice.  Amazing........  ;D

 :D That is about the ONLY humorous thing I heard about the EAB. Thanks Ironwood

And when those EAB's run out of ash trees, they can just start eating grits without skipping a beat.   :)

Pennsylvania has increase its quarantine from 12 counties to 31 counties:

News for Immediate Release
Aug. 10, 2010
Emerald Ash Borer Quarantine Expanded to 43 Counties; Tree-Killing Pest Found in Cumberland, Union Counties
Harrisburg – Forty-three counties are now under a quarantine that is intended to prevent the spread of the invasive, tree-killing Emerald Ash Borer, Agriculture Secretary Russell C. Redding said today while reminding travelers not to haul firewood between counties.
Redding also said that the pest has been found in two additional counties. Beetles were found in Cumberland County at the Pennsylvania Turnpike mile marker 226 near Carlisle, and in Union County at the intersection of State Gameland and Matthew Brown roads in Gregg Township.
The Emerald Ash Borer has now been found in 17 counties: Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Bedford, Butler, Centre, Cumberland, Fulton, Indiana, Juniata, Lawrence, Mercer, Mifflin, Somerset, Union, Washington and Westmoreland.
The Agriculture Department has expanded its quarantine to include 31 counties, including the six where the beetle has been found this year and others that are contiguous. Those counties are: Blair, Cambria, Cameron, Centre, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Columbia, Crawford, Cumberland, Elk, Erie, Fayette, Forest, Franklin, Fulton, Greene, Huntingdon, Jefferson, Lycoming, McKean, Montour, Northumberland, Perry, Potter, Snyder, Somerset, Tioga, Union, Venango and Warren.
"The considerable quarantine expansion was based on the new detections, coupled with new detections and quarantines in neighboring states," said Redding. "As we head into the final months of summer travel, we remind campers and travelers to follow the quarantine within the 43 counties and across the state to help limit the further spread of the beetle."
The quarantine is intended to restrict the movement of ash nursery, green lumber, and any other ash material, including logs, stumps, roots and branches, from the quarantine area. Because it is difficult to distinguish between species of hardwood firewood, all hardwood firewood and wood chips—including ash, oak, maple and hickory—are considered quarantined.
Redding said Emerald Ash Borer poses a serious threat to Pennsylvania's nation-leading hardwoods industry, which contributes nearly $25 billion to the economy.
The wood-boring beetle is native to China and eastern Asia. The pest likely arrived in North America in wooden shipping crates. It was first detected in July 2002 in southeastern Michigan and neighboring Windsor, Ontario, Canada. In addition to Pennsylvania, the beetle is attacking ash trees in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Typically, the Emerald Ash Borer beetles will kill an ash tree within three years of the initial infestation. Adults are dark green, one-half inch in length and one-eighth inch wide, and fly only from early May until September. Larvae spend the rest of the year beneath the bark of ash trees. When they emerge as adults, they leave D-shaped holes in the bark about one-eighth inch wide.
People who suspect they have seen Emerald Ash Borer should call the department's toll-free pest hotline at 1-866-253-7189. For more information about the quarantine, contact Walt Blosser at 717-772-5205, and for more information about Emerald Ash Borer, contact Sven-Erik Spichiger at 717-772-5229.
The Agriculture department's Emerald Ash Borer survey crews began hanging nearly 6,000 purple panel traps from ash trees in 21 counties on May 21. The traps are designed to attract flying adult beetles to help detect further spread.
The national survey is conducted in cooperation with U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, the United States Forest Service, and the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources' Bureau of Forestry.
Information is also available at www.agriculture.state.pa.us by searching "Emerald Ash Borer."
Media contact: Nicole L. C. Bucher, 717-787-5085
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This just came through to me from a friend.  I need to dig deeper to see if KD or AD lumber is on the quarentine list. (I'm not too optimistic, though. :(

During the past few weeks, you were contacted with respect to the activities of the Tennessee Department of Agriculture (TDA), the Tennessee Division of Forestry (TDF), and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).  Our organizations have worked together for the past 2 1/2 weeks to complete an extensive survey of Knox and Loudon counties plus the surrounding counties.  They initiated regulatory actions for entities operating within Knox and Loudon Counties and conducted outreach to a large number of campgrounds throughout the surrounding counties and into Sevier County.  Finally, they have visited truck stops and rest areas along all major highways to provide information regarding the recent pest detections and the risks associated with moving firewood.

We would like to provide you and your organizations with brief summaries of the two recent pest detections in Knox County and Loudon County.  Additionally, we would like to provide you with links to more information and points of contact for any questions that you may have pertaining to regulatory requirements and outreach.

On Thursday, July 22, 2010, there was confirmed detection of Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) in Knox County.  The State established the quarantine in Knox County.  Based upon the proximity of the initial detection, Loudon County was also quarantined.  A confirmed detection of EAB was made in Loudon County on August 7, further supporting the quarantine.  The insect attacks Ash species and this confirmation represents the southernmost detection of this pest.  The pest has also been found in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.  TDA has established a quarantine restricting the movement of all Ash materials (i.e. mulch, ash nursery stock, etc.) as well as all firewood made of hardwood out of Knox and Loudon counties.

On Monday, August 2, 2010, there was a confirmed detection of Thousand Canker Disease (TCD) in Knox County.  This is the first detection of the disease east of the Mississippi River.  The disease is transmitted by a small twig beetle and leads to the demise of Black Walnut trees.  TDA and TDF are currently surveying to determine the spread of this disease.  They are also working with technical experts to establish a program to slow the spread of this disease.  State regulations are currently being developed that will impact the movement of Black Walnut out of the affected areas.

In addition to ongoing surveys, we plan to increase outreach in regard to stopping the long distance movement of firewood as this is a significant pathway for movement of insects and diseases that threaten the health of our agriculture and natural environment.

For additional information about either of these pests or information related to deterring the movement of firewood, please refer to the following websites and hotline numbers:

Emerald Ash Borer:
http://www.emeraldashborer.info/
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/plant_pest_info/emerald_ash_b/
http://www.state.tn.us/agriculture/regulatory/eab.html
Emerald Ash Borer Hotline: 866-322-4512
USDA Regulations: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/plant_pest_info/emerald_ash_b/quarantine.shtml

Thousand Canker Disease:
http://www.state.tn.us/agriculture/regulatory/tcd.html
http://www.thousandcankerdisease.com/
http://www.forestry.ok.gov/Websites/forestry/Images/Thousand%20Cankers%20Disease.pdf

Stop the Movement of Firewood:
http://www.dontmovefirewood.org/
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/firewood/index.shtml
http://www.goodcamper.info/


We appreciate your help in distributing the message about these pests that are threatening our natural environment.  You can reach the Tennessee Department of Agriculture at (865) 837-5137, or USDA APHIS Plant Protection and Quarantine at (615) 907-3357.


Sincerely,

Ralph Cooley, USDA APHIS PPQ TN State Plant Health Director

Gray Haun, TDA Administrator, Division of Regulatory Services

Last Friday Sept. 3rd, we witnessed firewood transporting from Hiway 60 south to West Plains, Mo. to Hardy, Ar. The p/u truck was full of seasoned firewood, apparently the occupants were headed for a weekend camp-out in Arkansas. He passed us twice, we hoped that where ever he was headed some official could make sure all wood was burned.

Lots of loaded log trucks were seen hauling in just about any direction, will be very difficult to control EAB locally, as one county just south of our tree farm is quarantined as to transporting of fire wood, not saw logs or chip.

Iowa Ash Trees in Peril

WOWT.com (January 19) - The Iowa Department of Natural Resources says the state's estimated 52 million rural and 3 million urban ash trees are facing certain death after the emerald ash borer was found on an island in the Mississippi River, near New Albin.

Agency foresters are looking for signs across the state with an emphasis in eastern counties for evidence of the beetle. So far, they have visually surveyed 1,267 ash trees at 235 campgrounds and 29 sawmills, bark peeled 412 sentinel trap trees looking for larvae, and helped place 1,554 purple sticky traps primarily in counties along the Mississippi River. The monitoring effort produced one confirmed presence, with 13 adult beetles in one sticky trap on the island in the Mississippi River in Allamakee County in 2010.

The E-Forester

Just got this e-mail yesterday:

Dear Colleague:

In response to scientific evidence supporting a revision of the regulatory treatment specific to heat treatment schedules for ash logs and all hardwood firewood moving interstate from an emerald ash borer (EAB) quarantined area, APHIS has made changes.  The revised schedule is less stringent than the previous one.  The new schedule stipulates  a minimum core temperature of 60.0 degrees Centigrade (140 degrees F) for sixty minutes.  The previous schedule called for 71.1 degrees C for 75 minutes.

Attached is a Press Release from APHIS that provides more detail for this revision in heat treatment schedules for firewood.  The APHIS Newsroom address is
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/2011/01/heat_treat_emerald_ash.shtml


Jeff Slahor
Research Instructor/Wood Technologist
Appalachian Hardwood Center
WVU

Think anyone is really heat treating firewood or ash logs?  And what kind of degrade would that heat do to a log that was intended to be milled?

Todd - Long time no see!

I think this change impacts firewood more than logs.  Logs have ways of moving through other provisions in the quarantine (Compliance Agreements and their stipulations), whereas firewood has had a rough time moving.  THis is especially important because unlike logs, in which only ash logs are impacted, all species of firewood are regulated.  Giving firewood another treatment option to help move the product.

Heat treating effectively just stops any movement of firewood across those lines. 
Either that or it moves without the treatment against the rules.

Quote from: beenthere on January 21, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Heat treating effectively just stops any movement of firewood across those lines. 
Either that or it moves without the treatment against the rules.

I agree, but now instead of one option, there are two.

Erin-it has been a long time!  (Because ONE of us moved halfway across the country!) Remember when we thought we might stop this thing in MI and Ohio? :-\

I wonder if anyone could actually afford to treat their firewood this way and make any money on it.  On a pallet, the runner is usually only 1 1/2" thick and must be heated to about 133 for 1 hour. Getting the core of an average piece of firewood to temperature would take alot longer!

EAB MEETING / INSECTICIDE SEMINAR
(flyer on the MSAF calendar, http://michigansaf.org)

EMERALD ASH BORER ASH TREE INSECTICIDE SEMINAR
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH, 6:30­8:30 PM

Public Meeting 6:30-7:30 pm
*Current Status of EAB (locally, statewide, nationwide)
*SLAM Project Update
2010 Review, 2011 Activities

Insecticide Seminar 7:30­8:30 pm **FREE - NO CHARGE**
Geared towards Landowners, Homeowners, Foresters,
Landscapers, Arborists, etc.
*Determining the Condition of Your Ash Trees
*Options for your Ash Trees
*Insecticide Options Available (professional and DIY)
(Continuing Education Credits available for Michigan Certified
Pesticide Applicators, Arborists and Certified Foresters)

LITTLE BEAR EAST ARENA
MARQUETTE STREET
ST. IGNACE MI
2/28/11, 6:30-8:30 pm

PRE-REGISTRATION PREFERRED,
REGISTRATION ALSO ACCEPTED AT THE DOOR
CALL: BRENDA OWEN - 906-231-2906
EMAIL: OWEN@MTU.EDU

www.slameab.info
www.emeraldashborer.info

Are you going to attend Ron?

I hadn't really planned on it due to the travel and the short time of the meeting. I've got a 2 day Association of Consulting Foresters meeting to attend at Shanty Creek this coming Monday and Tuesday.

EMERALD ASH BORER UPDATES

The MDA revised the Michigan EAB quarantine, as of 8 February.  New maps and documents are available at [ http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125-1568_2390_18298---,00.html ]. 

Expanded UP areas include Keweenaw County, parts of Delta, parts of Schoolcraft County.  And so it goes. 

 Insecticide Options and Treatments for Ash Seminar

Group:Slowing Ash Mortality Pilot Project (SLAM)
Date:Tuesday March 22, 2011
Time: 6:30-8:00 PM
Place: School of Forest Resource and Environmental Science, Michigan Tech University, Hesterberg Hall Room G002
Cost: Free!
Pre-Registration is preferred but will also be accepted at the door
Continuing Education Credits available to Michigan Certified Pesticide Applicators (1 credit available for 2 or 3B or 6 or CORE)
Credit available for Arborists and Certified Foresters as well

Contact: Anne Collins, ahcollin@mtu.edu or 906.231.2312

  Can a persn cut up HT lumber for firewood and legally transport it?. The HT Lumber standard is different than the firewood, but I believe it is because of the bundling and diameter of the pieces.
  Living in IN in a non quarentined county I think I can move firewood anywhere in this state unless the park or camping location has its own No outside firewood restriction. Yet I cannot cross the state line to MI. Is this right?
  Thanks Ron L

Quote from: Ron57 on April 19, 2011, 08:23:54 AM
  Can a persn cut up HT lumber for firewood and legally transport it?. The HT Lumber standard is different than the firewood, but I believe it is because of the bundling and diameter of the pieces.

Technically, yes.  If the lumber is free of bark (wane), then you should get no grief if stopped.  If it has wane, that is where you would enter into "cloudy" terrotory.  How do you proove the lumer was heat treated?  Typically, if treated in a quarantined area, and headed for a non quarantined area, it would be accompanied by a certificate of treatment.  How do you proove that all of the pieces you are transporting came from the heat treated lumber?  There is a more difficult question to answer, and may in fact lead to confiscation of the load.

Quote from: Ron57 on April 19, 2011, 08:23:54 AM
    Living in IN in a non quarentined county I think I can move firewood anywhere in this state unless the park or camping location has its own No outside firewood restriction. Yet I cannot cross the state line to MI. Is this right?
 

You are correct on this one.  Even though you are not in a quarantined county as determined by IDNR, the entire State of Indiana is quarantined, which means you cannot leave with your firewood without proper paperwork.

I hope I answered your questions.

    We do heat treating of pallets and lumber, so we have the facility, would placing a certificate in each bag or bundle like the firewood treaters, be sufficient proof?
    Ron L

You are treading into territory that I cannot answer for you.  My suggestion would be to contact IDNR (for IN questions) and (APHIS PPQ for interstate questions) and see if they can come out and determine a solution for you.  If you need a PPQ contact, please IM me and include your location, and I can get that contact for you.

  Thank yon Estiers for the help. What I really need to know is what is the proper paperwork. We have a USDA office in Plymouth , Ill contact them.

Thanks Again,  Ron L

Got Ash in Your Woods?

Learn how to manage Emerald Ash Borer damage!

A workshop for foresters and other resource professionals to learn about opportunities to manage ash in woodlands to reduce damage from EAB.

Monday, May 9, 2011
Noon-3:30pm
Alpine Center Multipurpose Room
800 Livingston Boulevard,
Gaylord, MI

Funded by: USDA; Sponsored by: Michigan Department of Natural Resources, Forest Service, and Michigan State University Extension.

In the past decade, the Emerald Ash Borer has killed more than 30 million ash trees in Southeastern Michigan alone. It has now spread to many areas in Michigan's Northern Lower Peninsula. Forests in the Northern Lower Peninsula are now being invaded.

Michigan Department of Natural Resources staff are offering these workshops to:
• Share the latest information on EAB's impacts and distribution;
• Provide an update on other forest health issues;
• Provide guidelines for managing ash in forests;
• Offer details on a federal assistance program for forest landowners who may have EAB-affected ash in their (upland) forest acreage.

Registration is FREE and OPEN to the public. For questions about these workshops or the ash management project, please contact Ron Murray, MDNR Forest Health Supervisor, at 517-335-3353 or murrayr@michigan.gov.

Quoteto learn about opportunities to manage ash in woodlands to reduce damage from EAB.

Ron
Any clue as to what those opportunities are that will reduce damage?

I'm interested, and curious. Cannot make the meeting and thought you might have some info.

As I understand, the damage from EAB is a dead tree.
So are these opportunities to reduce the number of dead trees?

BRIEF SILVICULTURAL GUIDELINES FOR UPLAND HARDWOODS WITH AN ASH COMPONENT

This is a 2 page PDF document on the MSAF forest health page, developed by the Michigan DNR.

http://michigansaf.org/ForestInfo/Health/EABsilvi2011.pdf

Ash Borer Infestation Found in New York's Hudson Valley

Associated Press (May 6) - A major infestation of the destructive emerald ash borer in New York's Hudson Valley is the farthest east discovered so far in North America and forestry experts are trying to map its extent as they worry about the threat to New England's forests and streetscapes.

The E-Forester

those sob's are really heavy out here this year :(  the 4 years i have been here never seen this many...  and i only have 2 , 40 ft plus ash trees in my yard.     rest are oak..  but im surounded to the east and south with heavy forest.

That probably explains all the traps around here. We are west of the hudson valley a,d there are traps hanging ALL over the place.

that explains all the purple things hangin from the tree when i went out to wisconsin a month ago.          where local do i get one of these deals? im in Minnesota.      I know they are around  and they can fly fast..!  very pritty green tho...shame it has to be. 

shelby
Not following what you are describing, or what you are wanting to get.
Nor what is flying around Becker, MN.  Care to elaborate? ;)

refering to the purple kite,  and the borers are flyin around a lot here.

Any pics of those borers?

The purple kite is a trap placed by the State in a concentrated survey effort to find ther Emerald Ash Borer.  Currently, they are not available to the public.  However, if you are willing to have one placed on your land, perhaps you can contact your state department of agriculture and let them know.  I know sometimes it is difficult finding a suitable tree within the specified area.

Quote from: beenthere on June 06, 2011, 10:54:34 PM
Any pics of those borers?

I would also like to see the borers you are speaking of, as currently your area of MN has not been recorded as having EAB.

the one i had...i crushed as soon as i seen it....     i will post one...when i see another one...and ill capture it as not to kill it

Quoteand the borers are flyin around a lot..

Still flyin? and are they really EHB  (emerald ash borer)  ??

::)

my kid found one of what we were tryin to figure out what it was..  we determined it to be a green tiger beetle..not the emerald ash borer..  im goin to let this bug be, this one is metalic green.

Emerald Ash Borer Spreads in New York, Maryland, and Toronto, Canada

Cornell Confirms Emerald Ash Borer at Upper Falls Park
Irondequoit Post.com (June 22) - Rochester, New York's Upper Falls Park was recently confirmed by Cornell University researchers as being one of two new spot infestations of the emerald ash borer in the state.

Infestation of Emerald Ash Borer in Buffalo

WKBW.com (June 16) - An infestation of emerald ash borer was discovered in Buffalo, New York, this week. Experts say about a dozen trees within the city's South Park have been infested with the beetle. In 2009, the state's Department of Environmental Conservation discovered an infestation of the beetle in Randolph and is still treating trees down in the Southern Tier.

Emerald Ash Borer Detected in Baltimore Suburbs

Baltimore Sun (June 15) - The emerald ash borer, an invasive Asian insect deadly to ash trees, has turned up in trees and traps in three locations in Howard County, Maryland, accelerating the threat to hundreds of thousands of valuable shade trees in Baltimore and its suburbs.

Toronto's Ash Trees Face Extinction

CBC News.ca (June 20) - The emerald ash borer, first detected in Toronto in 2007, has since spread across the city, notably in the northeast, central, and eastern parts of Toronto.

A city study found the borer will likely wipe out most of the 860,000 ash trees currently in the city by 2017. Ash trees make up 8.4 per cent of Toronto's urban canopy.

The E-Forester

Emerald Ash Borer Found in Orange County, NY

New York Department of Environmental Conservation (July 21) - The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) has announced a new discovery of the emerald ash borer (EAB) on the US Military Academy at West Point campus in Orange County.

An adult emerald ash borer was discovered on July 13, 2011 in an emerald ash borer purple prism trap that was hung in an ash tree at the West Point campus. USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service staff confirmed the specimen and an initial site investigation by DEC regional staff, Cornell University, and West Point Natural Resources staff did not find any infested ash trees.

With this new detection confirmed, the state and federal emerald ash borer quarantine of Ulster and Greene County will be expanded to include Orange County. The quarantine restricts the movement of ash tree materials out of those counties to prevent human transport of the pest.

The E-Forester

Biological Control of the Emerald Ash Borer Begins on Huron-Manistee National Forest

The first release of tiny, stingless wasps that are predators of the emerald ash borer (EAB) occurred in late July on the Huron National Forest in Michigan's Lower Peninsula.  These wasps are part of an EAB-biological control program that started in the United States in 2007 to conserve ash trees.  While biological control is being implemented as a management tool for EAB in ash stands in EAB-infested states, this marks the first use of biological control for the insect on a national forest.  The wasps, Oobius agrili and Tetrastichus planipennisi, were approved for release on the Huron-Manistee National Forest based on analysis in an earlier Environmental Assessment that concluded that the wasps will not harm people, non-target species, or the environment.  A total of 14 releases are planned on the forest.

Emerald Ash Bore Traps in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. An Active detection program continues.

Trap located in Hancock City Campground, Hancock, MI, 8/11


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Trap located in Iron River RV Park, Iron River, MI, 8/11


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A trap was also noted along the access road into the Ski Brule Mountain/Homestead Ski Area, outside of Iron River, MI, 8/11.

DNR Responds to Emerald Ash Borer Beetles Found in La Crosse County

WEAU.com (August 23) - Concern is growing in La Crosse County after six emerald ash borer beetles were found in ash trees in the town of Medary.

This is the first time the invasive species has been confirmed to be in the county by the state of Wisconsin.

Department of Natural Resources area forestry leader Greg Edge said the agency is working with other state agencies to make sure the ash borer doesn't spread to the rest of western Wisconsin.

The E-Forester

NINE WISCONSIN COUNTIES WITH EMERALD ASH BORER

It's getting around. 
According to the WDNR, the following counties now host the emerald ash borer. 
Brown, Washington, Ozaukee, Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha, La Crosse, Vernon, and Crawford.
More EAB information:  http://www.emeraldashborer.info/

MACKINAC BRIDGE WOOD PRODUCTS & LIVESTOCK INSPECTION STATION CLOSED

The MDARD inspection station closed 9 September.
However, EAB regulations remain in force.

City of St. Paul to Remove 500 More Ash Trees in Ash Borer War

TwinCities.com (February 2) - St. Paul Parks and Recreation plans to remove aged and declining ash trees this month from about two dozen streets to get ahead of the emerald ash borer, a tree-killing beetle making itself at home in two St. Paul neighborhoods.

The goal is to remove 503 ash trees by spring and replace them with elm, maple, oak, linden, hackberry, or river birch saplings.

An additional 500 to 600 trees likely will be removed in the fall, after the beetle's summer flight season, though those plans could change if the metallic-green insect surfaces in yet another St. Paul neighborhood this year.

The E-Forester

Ron just east of me seven miles theres a rest area along I-75 here four or five years ago they found ash bores around the rest area. The department of ag. paid $$$ to get contractors to remove every ash tree with in three miles of the area. Seems like it was a waste of money because they ended up coming from the northwest trees are dying or dead every where and I know there as far as Dayton Ohio and Iam 75 miles north of there. But fire wood was the problem at first every rest area along 75 has them but now there every where. Give it another four years and it will be times two danger cutting dead ash,theres places around here that if you brush another tree it will explode with limbs flying every where. Pretty sad had for me to think some day there won't be any. Bill

Ash Borer Pest Heading to New England

Associated Press (April 19) - According to researchers in New York, the emerald ash borer-an invasive beetle that has destroyed tens of millions of ash trees over the past decade-has been found east of the Hudson River for the first time, marking its closest known threat to New England.

But the discovery of an emerald ash borer infestation in Dutchess County, New York, last month may signal a victory in the battle to stem the pest's spread: Foresters believe the colony was caught less than a year after it got established, a big step given that the beetle can go unnoticed for years.

The E-Forester

I thought this was interesting:  http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/05/08/minn-to-test-dogs-against-emerald-ash-borer/

I went to school with one of the co-founders and so was familiar with their company.  I can't imagine it will come close to stopping the buggers but maybe slow them up a bit?

If trained right, the dogs would provide a reliable detection tool.  It would then be up to the humans to decide what to do with that information.

Just hit the Kansas City Star newspaper. They found the emerald ash borer in Platte county. Kansas City has about 40,000 ash trees. So its around that area. Parkville was mentioned, which is a northern suburb of Kansas City. Its got about 300 miles to go to the west, then that will be the end. My guess is its already in my area, and we just don't know it. I am about 90 miles west of where they found it.

At least we don't have it down here yet. We also don't have very many ash in this area to begin with.

We bought a lot of ash this winter/spring/summer on salvage jobs. Basically buying it for pallet price. I never cared for ash much because of the powder post beetles. We mostly just turn it into pallet boards, or blocking.  But you hate to see it happen anyway. Estiers usually arranges to hang traps around the place. Don't know if they did this year or not.

Ash is a major component of the hardwood forest here and black ash is mostly in cedar swamps. My woodlot has a lot of ash, in fact would rather protect is over red maple. Red maple is like a weed only used for pulp, except some rare curly figure. Garant uses ash, and logs will lie out in their yard until the ends are black, and they still use the wood I assume. They make handles. Most any local tools in the hardware store is Garant. Picked this up in the spring to bust up some 200 lb rounds from the rock maple in the yard.

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We did, along with the Kansas Department of Agriculture place traps again this year.  KDA took your county this year Kansas, so I am not sure if they put one up near you or not.

EAB is on the move in Virginia...

http://www.dof.virginia.gov/press/nr/2012/07-12_EABinVA.htm (http://www.dof.virginia.gov/press/nr/2012/07-12_EABinVA.htm)

So far it's wiped out nearly every ash tree in northern Ohio .

FWIW they used to call ash the poor mans oak .If you get a good clear grained log cut it to lumber , finish and stain it correctly it resembles oak especially quarter sawn .

I'll tell  you what ,the tree  trimmers will be removing dead ash trees for the next 5 years I'd bet .The dead ones now are still standing solid but they won't forever .

I've been at it for two years myself on my own little property and I'm not done yet .

Some pulpers just pulped an acreage near where I work. They left only one tree standing-- a large, twisted, gnarly-looking ash. Would have made good pulp, so I am assuming they left it for regeneration's sake, since it is a monumental war we are fighting against the EAB.

SD, you said red maple is usually only useful for pulp  ??? In Maine it was one of our primary firewoods.

I have burnt a little of it Okra. If I had a kitchen stove for heat it wouldn't matter so much. But even then, if you want to cook beans for instance you went to the wood stack and searched for beech, rock maple or yellow birch for more btu's. It's a world of difference between red maple and rock maple in a forced air furnace as well. A lot warmer. :) No, we call it a swamp hardwood, like elm and black ash and folks will not buy it for firewood up here. It's fine I suppose if a tiny bit is mixed in, which is what I find sometimes in my wood deliveries. I don't know if the wood guy figures I don't know or if it's what he gets from the crown land loggers he buys from. But, I do know the difference and I make sure he knows I want as little as possible. ;) If I use the boiler barrel on the shop stove for steaming wood, red maple won't make hot enough coals for the steam.

 ???  I don't understand why that Canadian soft maple doesn't burn so well unless it's soaked full of water like a sponge .

You look up the btus' per cord it isn't that far off of hard maple .You just have to burn more of it with a little air behind it .

I mean yeah neither hard or soft maple will coal up like oak or hickory but unless you are firing a forge what's the difference, just toss more in .

Just for giggles look up the maples and relate  them to heat output with ash ,the subject and a good firewood .There isn't that much difference .

It's not a matter of burning, it's a matter of heat output. It just don't measure up. We don't burn ash up here for winter heat either. I can tell ya right now you will go through that ash and red maple 20% faster than rock maple/beech. And black ash is the worst, it's like burning aspen. Snap crackle and pop and you're looking for more. Freeze to death. You get a few days of -30 to -40 and you will find out right quick. ;D

Hmm. Red maple was our primary firewood at our house. It was the hardwood we had most of, and it did fine. Heated the entire 2,100 sq ft. house with it. Definitely better than aspen, but we used that some too, on occasion, sometimes even hemlock. Lot of gray birch got mixed in, and sometimes beech, ash, or oak, but we didn't have much oak.

Black ash is what I equate to aspen, but the red maple will keep you alive at least. ;D

All a matter of storage space I suppose. And if you have to buy it. ;)

A little secret Swamp you have to burn more of it .How? Split it smaller that's pretty simple .

You get it burning fast enough you could heat that place with swamp willow if that's all you have .

It doesn't make a bit of difference what it is from  our superior native oaks to your precious sugar maple it all has the same btus' per pound .Of course if you were buying the stuff I can see where you might be a little fussy about it .

We who slave away cutting our own pretty much figure that what ever fits through the stove door will work and actually it does . 8)

I prefer quartered or half slabs, depending on how big the round was. Some of the rock maple from the tree we took down this spring was probably slabbed 8 ways or more. I've never seen where splitting it up fine kept ya any warmer, unless it's the extra trips to the furnace. It sure don't last longer in the wood pile. If you put two nice slabs in on a couple little sticks your gonna be a whole lot warmer than 3 little sticks in the furnace. So you have to load more, which makes for a rapid burn that will be bit a dangerous. For one the duct work will get super hot and you'll eventually warp the furnace. That being said, most people will end up warping the furnace.  ::)

What ,you got an old gravity furnace you're stuffing wood in ?

Forced air Al.

Fawcett WF 200 (http://www.enterprise-fawcett.com/wf_series.php)

We never had any problems with red maple. It was used in a steel wood stove. We cut it 24" long and split it into pieces small enough that the kids could carry. 5 cords a year was plenty to heat our 2100 ft. house.

Down here, even though oak is abundant and a lot of people burn it, there are plenty of people who burn mostly or exclusively yellow pine for firewood.

Quote from: SwampDonkey on July 28, 2012, 10:30:01 AM
Forced air Al.

It only lists 1/8" plate for the sides .It isn't any wonder it can't take a fast fire but I see your point now after reading up on it .Now mind you I'm not saying that anything is wrong with it .

When I was just a wee lad on the farm the old man fired an old gravity furnace with slab wood ,talk about hot now .Never hurt it a bit .It probabley had a cast iron heat exchanger that weighed 500 pounds though ,oldie .

They do have a heavy cast iron model.

Cast Iron Furnace (http://www.enterprise-fawcett.com/cast-iron_wood_furnaces.php)

Okra, I need at least 2-3 cord more firewood than that for this old farm house. This year there will be over 8 cord stacked in the basement and a little covered outside if I need it by April. The shop only uses 1.5 cords all winter.

You can probably burn straw and leaves when your in a climate that rarely goes below 0.

Still off topic but the problem with those airtights in the basement is maintaning a high enough stack temp running up maybe three stories with the flue . My old buddy nearly burning his house down doing that from  a flue fire .

It's more of a problem in a mild winter. In sub-zero winter you are all right. Problem is in the mild spells folks run a dampened fire and it isn't hot enough, just smoulders. I had a little flu fire last year, but I am not so sure it wasn't caused by bees nest. We also had a lot of mild spells and I am guilty of running a dampened fire in them. That won't happen again. I leave the damper on 80 all winter now. My wood is dry enough, it's got long checks up every stick, almost busted apart. Anyway I clean the flu every season and to my knowledge this is the first flu fire in memory and it's been used over 100 years. She got a good cleaning in the fire to, I lugged several pales of foamed up creosote. We swept it all good with brushes. Have used forced air for 40 years.

http://www.ksda.gov/news/id/485

EAB confirmed in Kansas.

This is just me, but I think time spent on a quarantine in this state is a waste of time, on EAB, except maybe to buy a little time. First of all, once it gets to central Kansas, there aren't many on out there. Oh, there are pockets and stuff. Definitely in cities. But much like KU football, the game is over before its begun. Meaning we all know its a losing battle. How long before someone's brother in law helps take down a dying ash tree and takes it home in Manhattan or somewhere as firewood. Most of the general population doesn't even know of it; there will always be a few that don't care even if they do. And it only takes a few.

They put traps up a few weeks ago around the log yard. Be surprised if they don't find it. I am only about 80 miles away from Wyandotte County.

By this stage in the game, I think continent-wide, this is only a delaying game. I just hope there are some entomologists somewhere feverishly finding a solution before all the ashes are dead. Ours down here still look ok, but we have never been the ash-tree capital of the world.

This area of Oho was hard hit and especially more urban areas that used ash for landcaping trees .I think they figured certain areas of the state had about 20 percent of the native trees being ash .That percentage was not that high in this area .

I had mentioned secondary growths sprouting from stumps .Those it appears are doing nicely so they might made a come back but it won't be in anybodies life time viewing this forum .

Imagine that the whole mess was caused by cheap Asian auto parts being shipped in from some Pacific rim country made with almost slave wages labor ,all to save a nickle .That nickle turned out to cost in the billions .Not such a grand plan after all was it . :(

KANSAS:  "This is just me, but I think time spent on a quarantine in this state is a waste of time...., except maybe to buy a little time."

I agree, and think that OKRAFARMER is right.  I think quarantines are put in place to give entomologists more time to hopefully come up with a control method for whatever insect is the problem.

Phorester, is there any hope on the horizon of doing that? Something cooking we don't know about? Would love it if there was.

Estiers,
Is there any progress to report on the release of the parsitic wasps in Michigan and Indiana?

I have not heard any news other than releases are still occurring in multiple states.  If I hear anything, I will let this board know.

Quote from: OneWithWood on September 05, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
Estiers,
Is there any progress to report on the release of the parsitic wasps in Michigan and Indiana?

Anything like the aisian lady bugs they released to control aphids and are a pest themselves now?  Two years ago they ruined the fruit on my trees.

trapper, how do they ruin the fruit?  We have them by the billions around here and they are a pest but they also do some good concerning the aphids.

Unfortunately for us the hordes of ladybugs were no where to be found this year.  Sure would have helped with the Tulip scale...

They were boreing into the fruit to suck the juice out.  It was a dry year.  It was them because they were still in the peaches, apples and pears when I went to pick.

I didn't realize they'd do that, but I don't have any fruit trees either.  Seems like every solution always has it's drawbacks.

The little green bug has invaded Massachusetts.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2012/09/12/destructive-ash-eating-beetle-found-mass/MTOdPWJB8I0z6eRX89BVMM/story.html

Way too close.  :(

Ash Borer Conference

Pierce Cedar Creek Institute is holding an emerald ash borer conference with MSU professor Deb McCullough 10/18 10am-3pm.  If interested, go to www.cedarcreekinstitute.org for more info. 

Sniffing for Ash Borers.

While most of Michigan has by now been attacked by the emerald ash borer (EAB), other states may have not yet been hit. It seems that it may take a couple of years (or more) for symptoms to show up after the EAB first arrives. How would one go about finding those early infestations? How about an EAB-sniffing dog? The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has trained a Labrador Retreiver to do just that. "Lily" is evidently pretty good at finding the bugs.

Michigan Arbor Day Alliance

Is there any news about EAB pushing farther southward, from Tennessee, for instance? Ash management seems to be business as usual here, from what I can see. Although I did see a logger leave a loan ash in a clear cut recently.

So far there have been no detections farther south than TN.  However, several counties on the border with NC, both in TN and VA, have reported finds, so that may not be true for much longer.

Tree-Killing Beetle Discovered in Greenbrier Area of Great Smoky Mountains National Park

Knox News.com (December 3) - Great Smoky Mountains National Park personnel first confirmed the emerald ash borer's arrival last summer at front country sites near two park entrances. However, a recent discovery by a park biologist suggests that the emerald ash borer has been infesting trees in the park's backcountry for approximately the past 5 years.

The E-Forester

I didn't go too far back in this posting, but it seems to me the question is not about "will" or "will not" EAB eventually kill a lot of ash trees (regardless of location), but are there opportunities to use the lumber productively, since the EAB doesn't affect the heartwood (from what I understand).  Hate to see all that wood go to waste if there's a way to use it.  As someone mentioned, grain similar to oak, especially quarter-sawn.  Unfortunately, that's not "in" right now with cabinet-makers, as their customers want tighter-grained (and more expensive!) wood like cherry or walnut.  Except for use as pallet-wood or firewood, anybody know of a market for ash (besides tool handles and baseball bats, which is relatively small)?

:new_year:

I've been taking EAB kills for boards and such around here. The wood seems fine, and I would imagine that it will become scarce at some point. I know they've switched to making bats from maple. That's why you see alot more broken bats in MLB. Or so I've been told.

I like the look of ash. As you mentioned, similar to oak. I'll take as much EAB kill as I can get. I'll leave the healthy ones standing though. Unfortunately, they may / will end up the same way.

I'm still looking forward to milling some ash, and plan to before it's all gone. We still have ours here, and I hope I get into some soon.

As far as usage it doesn't plane out as nicely as oak or at least I've never had any that did .However it's as nicely of working wood in my opinion as there is .It takes stain well and makes very nice trim etc .

Of course it's great firewood which is the least noble use of any wood I can think of .It all burns .

This area of Ohio was very had hit and most likely the tree trimmers will be employed for years to come in dead ash removal .It reacts oddly though to the EAB .These things still contain moisture within ,not like a normal dead tree .In addition many have growths coming from the roots so I'm not certain if it's the swan song yet .However  they will not recover in my life time ,maybe in my grand childrens with any luck .

Odd though the borer evidently passed up the little two inch saplings probabley because they did not have enough mass to sustain the larva .I didn't think a bug was that smart .

Emerald Ash Borers Invade Southeastern Forests

US Forest Service (February 5) - The emerald ash borer, one of the most destructive forest pests introduced to North America in recent years, was accidentally introduced to the United States in 1996 and first identified in Michigan in 2002. Since then, it has killed tens of millions of ash trees across the United States and Canada. Recently emerald ash borers invaded forests in Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee, and in 2012, Paul Merten, an entomologist with US Forest Service Forest Health Protection unit confirmed an infestation in the Greenbrier area of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in fall of 2012.

The E-Forester

From DCR today:

State Officials Announce Quarantine to Halt Spread of Invasive Emerald Ash Borer Species

DALTON – Thursday, February 21, 2013 – Officials from the Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) announced today that a quarantine will be established in Berkshire County, in order to stop the spread of the invasive insect species Emerald Ash Borer (EAB). This decision comes after extensive survey in the affected area and public hearings.

"The Emerald Ash Borer brings a very serious threat to our ash trees, and we are not taking its presence lightly," said DCR Commissioner Ed Lambert. "We believe a county-wide quarantine will allow the best chance at slowing the spread of Emerald Ash Borer."

The quarantine will take effect March 1, 2013.

EAB was first detected in Massachusetts in Dalton in August of 2012. Massachusetts is the eighteenth state discovered to have EAB within its borders.

Immediately following the detection of the invasive species, DCR began work with the Massachusetts Department of Agricultural Resources (DAR), the United States Forest Service (USFS), and the United State Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) to formulate a plan for dealing with the invasive insect.

DCR set up more than 700 EAB traps across the Commonwealth. With funding from the USFS, DCR also girdled 26 trees, a process known as delimiting that stresses the individual trees in an attempt to attract and sequester any EAB in the area.

After the delimiting survey was completed around the Dalton/Pittsfield area, five trees were found to have EAB larvae present. These trees are located within a 1.5 mile radius of the trap where the first EAB beetle was detected in August 2012.

DCR engaged in a public outreach campaign, including public meetings that allowed the public to express their opinions and concerns on the topic of quarantine. Though most public comments posted in the aftermath of these meetings called for quarantine as small as scientifically possible, the studies conducted indicated that a county-wide quarantine would work best.

The quarantine order means that certain products will be regulated from moving outside the regulated area, including all hardwood firewood (any piece of wood smaller than 48"), all ash nursery stock, and any ash lumber that has not been treated. Proper wood treatments include the removal of bark and half an inch of wood, dry kiln sterilization, fumigation, and heat treatments.

The state of New York recently added 22 new counties to their EAB quarantine, including counties that abut the Berkshire County border. This will allow wood to move from quarantined county to quarantined county, including moving regulated wood from Massachusetts to the mills that are just over the border in New York, relieving some of the financial pressure on the wood industry in Berkshire County.

Plans for future surveys are currently being discussed and EAB traps will be utilized again this summer in Massachusetts, as well as the girdling of approximately 100 ash trees to continue to help narrow the infestation.

Thanks for that post Dave that was the first I have heard about the expended quarantine in Ny. It will start may 1st and includes most. Counties south of the thruway.that's a lot of area. 

I went to one of those public meetings and signed up for the emails, which is where I got this. It does say that you can move the wood to neighboring quarantined counties, even over state lines, which is good. What it doesn't say is that most of the wood harvested in Berkshire county, usually goes East, not into NY. I have heard that there is a new kiln in the next county over, so that may help to a degree. Dalton is probably a half-hour North of me. I don't imagine it will take them long to get down here.

No eab in our county yet but we will be in the new q area.

EAB Confirmed in Concord, NH yesterday.

http://www.wcax.com/story/21891011/invasive-beetle-confirmed-in-nh
(http://www.wcax.com/story/21891011/invasive-beetle-confirmed-in-nh)

Eab was confirmed in the town of Unadilla, otsego co. NY last week >:( the Dec link I had is dead for some reason.

We was driving around the other day and saw 2 traps. The wife saw one and we both saw the next one. No one has contacted me this year to hang a trap on my land.

I took a little walk the other day just to look around .A couple of ash stumps from trees I took down two summers ago have 5 foot tall new shoots which are leafed out well .

It will be interesting to see the long term effects if in fact they can grow large enough to replentish the species .

Mother nature if left alone can often heal itself .

I hope it works, Al.

I didn't read/look at all 22 pages, maybe someone posted a pic of one.  I don't think this is one, as they've been around for several years and my ash are still standing ;D, but it is emerald.

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JM

It would still freak me out if I saw it on an ash tree! I milled my first ash log last week. Beautiful stuff.

Quote from: Okrafarmer on June 10, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
It would still freak me out if I saw it on an ash tree! I milled my first ash log last week. Beautiful stuff.

Scared the whoie outta me the first time I saw one 3-4yrs ago. :D  From what I remember of my 'research' there are a number of emerald colored beetles like that and that is not EAB.  btw that is an old ash that it is sitting on. ;D

JM

Week before last I cut 131 ash trees 45,000 bd. ft. theres so many on the market that I won't buy ash only job theres just no money to be made. I have notice that every now and then your see one that looks like a million bucks so just to see what happens I let them stand. Time will tell but for everyone thats thinking maybe it won't be here in my opinion it will be another dutch elm there all be dead. And when the new shoots mature into a young tree there be reinfested and die also.

I have seen the traps down here, in Fairfield County. 

This spring in addition to new shoots which seem to prosper I've seen some trees that evidently haven't been completely killed .

There might be hope in the long term if the parasite does not attact other species and eventually dies off from lack of food to feed the larva .It remains to be seen if or how that may turn out .

Never the less I still have a couple more years of cutting as slow as I get around to things before I get all the dead ones either bucked into lumber logs or firewood .Working 13 days in a row before a day off and 10 and 12 hour days doesn't leave much time to get to the woods .

Quote from: Okrafarmer on June 10, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
It would still freak me out if I saw it on an ash tree! I milled my first ash log last week. Beautiful stuff.

I've said before how nice it is to work and how it can be finished into nice wood work .We have what's left of our ash ,dead as they are .Swampish has his sugar maple . ;)

it doesnt seem like im seeing as many here in broome county NY, a year or two ago i would see alot of them

EAB has been found in nc. Confirmed sightings in Granville county and trees showing symptoms in Person and Vance counties. Just received an email on it yesterday. Those counties have been placed in quarantine for movement of  firewood and ash wood. Doesn't sound good.

Oh shucks, it's getting closer.

Emerald ash borer beetles found in Georgia

An invasive insect responsible for the death or decline of tens of millions of ash trees in 20
states has been detected in Georgia for the first time. Suspect emerald ash borer beetles were removed from survey traps during routine monitoring in DeKalb and Fulton counties in July, setting in motion plans to prevent its spread and educate the public.

The Chief's Newsletter

I just a week or so ago found EAB in central North Carolina.



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Great web site on it http://www.emeraldashborer.info/surveyinfo.cfm#sthash.bkeCaVEq.E9FdN94W.dpbs

EAB has been found in Boulder, CO.
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/ag_Plants/CBON/1251646251641

Wow, someone has been hauling firewood a long way West.

Sad to say that this is what most of our ash trees look like in Connors Hollow WV.


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And if you knock off some bark...


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Looks like the woodpeckers are trying real hard to get at the bugs but it's too late.
They went real fast too.
Jon

Sad!

On this EAB ash business we had a big wind blow up about 14-15 days ago .I had some limbs blow down no big deal .It was only today when I could assess the damage  .I work normally 7 days a week 12hours a day from 6 AM to 6 Pm .It's always dark .Day off today so I cruised the woods a little

I counted just off hand 25 dead ash from 12 to 16 inch diameter 80 feet tall that failed in the roots right above the root flair .So that's how they are going to go over for what it's worth .Looks like I have plenty to keep me busy if I could somehow find the time

An update from up here in the northeast:

From Karen Bennett, UNH Extension Forester:

Emerald ash borer found in North Andover MA

Boston – December 9, 2013 – The Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) and the Department of Agricultural Resources (DAR) today announced that the Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) has been detected in Essex County, Massachusetts. The destructive beetle was detected in the Town of North Andover on November 15, 2013, and was confirmed by federal officials on November 22, 2013. Essex County is the second county in the Commonwealth to have a confirmed detection of EAB. On August 31, 2012, EAB was detected in Berkshire County in the Town of Dalton. To date, 22 states across the country have confirmed detections of EAB. Click here to read the official press release.

We encourage New Hampshire residents in the border towns, especially, to check their ash for suspicious symptoms. Forest Health Specialist with the N.H. Division of Forests and Lands, Kyle Lombard says "While the leaves are off the trees, this is a great time to year to look for signs of EAB infestation left by woodpecker marks."

Woodpeckers peck at the bark of trees, often stripping chunks off the darker outer layers to search for insects underneath. Noticeable "blonding" or yellowing of the bark can result as layers of lighter-colored bark underneath are revealed.

"This time of year, those fresh, cream-colored wood pecks really stand out against the darker outer bark of the tree," said Nate Siegert, a U.S. Forest Service entomologist. "In heavily-infested ash trees, there will be a lot more bark removed and the signs will be more noticeable."

Visit http://www.nhbugs.org (http://www.nhbugs.org) to learn the signs and symptoms of emerald ash borer and also to report a suspect tree.

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Vermont is still EAB-free, but probably not for long...

John

It keeps getting closer.  :(

I'm actually the guy who reported the emerald ash borer in North Andover, Ma to the state, i'm a bit worried that they are going to release those parasitic wasps from asia here because from what i'm hearing off the record from a Michigan State professor I emailed, the spathius wasp they let go is attacking other things besides EAB now  :'( from what I saw in North Andover its quite advanced. I'm a newcomer here be gentle- I have some photos of the infestation in my gallery but I do not know how to upload them on here

weatherboss87,welcome to the forum. The hard part is done with your pictures. I saw them in your gallery. This will do it.

I like to go to whatever post or start a new topic first to include a picture.Go to your gallery,it will open in a new window.Click onto your album,then click onto whatever picture you want,it will get bigger,than scroll down a little to find,Insert Image In Post,click onto that,click Yes and that is it. Some have to copy/paste the link to work.I like to hit the enter key at least once or twice to move the picture down away from what I am typing. The enter key really helps to leave some white space if posting more than one picture. Somewheres I think it says to add 10,000 to your user number or something like that to make a clickable icon to your gallery under your user name. Use the preview button to see how it looks and modify it if needed.

 Thank you thecfarm, for those who haven't seen heres m

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Not sure how to share this without posting a link to an outside site (sorry Jeff).

MN public radio has a short article about the extreme cold weather possibly killing some of the EAB larvae.  Of course it won't get them all, but at least this cold May be good for something.

http://blogs.mprnews.org/updraft/2014/01/extreme-cold-may-wipe-out-high-percentage-emerald-ash-borer-larvae/

RE:  MICHIGAN EAB REVISIONS

John Bedford, MDARD, has asked that the 2014 EAB revisions be distributed within the forestry community.  Four documents are posted on the MSAF website for those that might be interested [ http://michigansaf.org/ForestInfo/Health/MainHealth.htm].

Related to EAB, a Minnesota media report about EAB and cold temperatures has gained a bit of traction.  A more sober report can be found at:
http://www.londoncommunitynews.com/news-story/4305861-extreme-cold-won-t-help-london-s-emerald-ash-borer-problem/

Thanks for the recent pictures guys.

There was conformation of the Emerald Ash Borer in Lindsay, Ontario which is 2 hours North of Toronto. I have about 15 acres of nice sized white ash trees so I'll be keeping close eye on them. Might be doing a lot of ash lumber in the next few years...

I guess you have to be a positive thinker, but an article from a long time forester in Kentucky was showing his heavily EAB damaged and dead Ash trees. One big benefit to losing the Ash was that the absence of the trees allowed more sunlight to grow his oak, hickory, and maples; part of natural succession, he says.

I've watched a couple of stands of Ash the past couple years. One of the stands nearing 4-6"poles, the other stand with large saw timber to poles, so far, all appear negative EAB.

I was at my parents' place in Clarendon County, KY, this past weekend, and my dad and I walked his few acres of hardwoods. He had not realized he actually has several ash trees on his property. They look very healthy. Two in particular are approximately 12" diameter. No signs of infestation. They are about two miles west of Kentucky Lake.

New study pinpoints epicenter for emerald ash borer

Northeastern Area State & Private Forestry Entomologist Nate Siegert published a study that used tree rings to reconstruct the epicenter and early spread of emerald ash borer in Michigan. The results showed the emerald ash borer was likely established in Michigan by the early to mid-1990s.

The Chief's Newsletter

Im about an hour east of Soo Mi on the Canadian side havent seen any definite signs of EAB infestation here but it has been confirmed in and around the bug lab in Soo Ontario.Thanks for the education on this as we have 160 acres ourselves and I look after another 400 for others.Now I know what to look for.

No word of it here yet. . . but ash is a minor timber species here. There are several sizable ash trees within sight of my sawmill.

We found it in Frederick County, one of my counties, in extreme northwestern VA in 2011 or 12.  Estimated 6,000 - 8,000 acres infested with EAB, killed every ash within that area.  It has since spread to all parts of Frederick County west of Winchester, VA.  I found it last week on top of the Blue Ridge mountains in Clarke County about 20 miles East of Winchester in a 4" dbh ash. Documented on the Skyline Drive about 20 miles South of Winchester. Original Virginia infestation found in Fairfax county near Washington DC several years ago.  They cut down about 300 ash in that area of the county in woodlands, urban streets, front and back yards trying to eliminate it.  Didn't work, still killing ash around that area.

Is there a current map showing the affected areas?

I have not heard anything with regards to any problems in Wisconsin.  I did find an Emerald Borer on the property where I am caretaker, killed it.  We do have 4 ash trees on the property and in looking at them I cannot see anything wrong----but what am I looking for as for as outward signs ?  There was no mistaking the borer that I stepped on.    Don

So, what happens after the ash borer moves on? Can ash be reestablished, or will there always be just enough trees alive to support the bug?

Here is the most recent map.

It's as far west as Colorado :(

And as far South as Tennessee & Georgia. 

Since the Mississippi River is a "transportation highway", I wonder if it will have any effect on the chances of spreading?

Those people targeted for spreading the EAB, sure carried their firewood a long ways...   ::)

Only takes one fertilized female on one plane to get it started.... :(

Doesn't have to be firewood. Most likely initial infestation started this way.

Confirmed in Arkansas. http://www.emeraldashborer.info/#sthash.p1dco68q.dpbs (http://www.emeraldashborer.info/#sthash.p1dco68q.dpbs)

"Femme Fatale" Emerald Ash Borer Decoy Lures and Kills Males

PSU.edu (September 15) - An international team of researchers has designed decoys that mimic female emerald ash borer beetles and successfully entice male emerald ash borers to land on them in an attempt to mate, only to be electrocuted and killed by high-voltage current.

The E-Forester

Ooh-- that sounds like progress! Let's hope it works!
8) 8) 8)

just a thought but wonder if all the land owners (with 5a and more) and loggers would help foot the bills for this kind of thing I would be willing to put  money up for it if it works

A single EAB was trapped in the city of Rhinelander, WI two weeks ago.  The County will be under quarantine within 6 weeks.

Oldmil

Scientists Seek Survivor Ash Trees

Toledo Blade.com (October 20) - Federal scientists believe there are a few extra hardy ash trees out in nature that have-for reasons unknown-defied the odds and held up against the highly destructive emerald ash borer.

Now, they want the public's help in finding those "survivor" trees-and are starting their research in seven northwest Ohio counties and 10 southeast Michigan counties.

Ash trees used for landscaping in subdivisions or office complexes, for example, may have been treated with insecticides. Those aren't the trees scientists are seeking. Rather, they're looking for those rarities out in the wild, such as any surviving ash trees that hikers and birders might pass along trails in the woods.

The E-Forester

Is EAB also EWFB?

Two recent articles discussing the apparent spread of EAB to White fringetree:

http://entomologytoday.org/2014/10/10/emerald-ash-borer-may-have-spread-to-different-tree/

http://my.chicagobotanic.org/news/emerald-ash-borer-sad-but-true-part-3/

So how does this quarantine work? Is it only for cut-to-length firewood? It seems funny if they allow full-length logs to be transported, but not firewood. What I want to know is, in what forms is legal to transport hardwood through the quarantined areas? Log length? All firewood? Only Ash? Only hardwood that is firewood length? Split? If you kiln-dry the firewood, are you able to transport it? Is there any sort of certification, etc, required?

I ask because someone I know locally is interested in selling some firewood wholesale out of the area. I'm helping him figure out logistics and legalities.

Okra
Are you in or near a quarantined area?

Have you checked with the state?

My state has no quarantine or known EAB but we are looking at shipping wood into a quarantined area.

I would have your friend contact the State Department of Agriculture for the state s/he is trying to ship from.  They will be able to help determine if the movement can meet regulations.

As to your statement that it seems funny to allow logs to move and not firewood: EAB is very host specific.  A regulatory official would have a relatively easy time certifying that a load of logs was free of host material.  However, if that same load was in firewood form, it would be nearly impossible to certify that there was not one piece of host material in the load.

OK, that makes sense. Thanks.

540 trees to be removed from bay city state park.

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2015/01/first_ash_trees_fall_in_mass-c.html#incart_river

I wonder whats happening with all the wood?  Watch the video..

Emerald Ash Borer Detected in Louisiana

KATC.com (February 18) - The emerald ash borer, a severe insect pest of ash trees, has been confirmed in Webster Parish making Louisiana the 25th state to confirm the presence of this beetle.

A US Forest Service and Forest Health Protection employee found evidence of emerald ash borer damage in ash trees during a visual survey. Further investigation revealed larvae (immature beetles) beneath the bark of multiple trees in approximately a two-acre area.

The Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry began drafting an emerald ash borer response plan in the fall of 2014 in preparation for the insect's anticipated arrival in Louisiana.

Related:

Emerald Ash Borer's "Inevitability" Prompts Loveland Ash Removals

KUNC.org (February 16) - Work is underway to remove 800 ash trees from Loveland parks and open spaces.

The emerald ash borer has been in Colorado for years now, but remained undetected until 2013 when it was found in the city of Boulder, the farthest point west that it has been detected.

Loveland forestry specialist Rob MacDonald thinks insect's spread north from Boulder is inevitable.

The total cost of removal and tree replacement will be more than $500,000, which MacDonald said would take between 8 and 10 years.

The E-Forester

The Emerald Ash Borer Beetle Has Killed Trees in 22 States

Northdallasgazette.com (February 22) - Emerald ash borers now have infested at least 22 states and two Canadian provinces and have become the most destructive and costly forest insect to ever invade North America, says Deb McCullough, Michigan State University professor of forest entomology.

The E-Forester

A Thousand Ash Trees Falling in Cambridge

The Record.com (June 3) - An inventory taken last fall shows that of the 55,000 street trees in Cambridge, Ontario, 4,095 are ash. Most of these trees are already infested with the emerald ash borer and city officials have decided that all ash must come down.

So begins the job of removing dying and dead trees over the next four years.

The E-Forester

Ash Trees Succumb to Emerald Ash Borer in Catskills

Watershedpost.com (June 5) - The emerald ash borer is continuing its relentless push through the Catskills and New York State, killing thousands of trees and impacting the budgets of homeowners and state agencies, according to officials and experts.

The E-Forester

Maybe it's been mentioned before in the thread but do the borers go after any size ash?  Or do they leave the saplings alone?  Is there any chance of the trees coming back after the borer's been through?

Hi everyone,
  I just wanted to pass along the sad news that the Emerald Ash Borer has been found in Bledsoe County, Tennessee. I don't have many Ash trees, but another eastern forest tree bites the dust.  As to your question, I would like to know if the Ash could rebound myself. It seems like the pest would kill it's host and die.  The Bowl Weavel still exists in Georgia though, just waiting to come back as soon as we let up.

Add Cumberland County to that. It's traveling faster than it was supposed to.   :'(

EAB is now on the Delmarva peninsula (MD but not sure if DE or not)

http://news.maryland.gov/mda/press-release/2015/06/22/pest-that-kills-ash-trees-discovered-in-four-more-maryland-counties-state-expected-to-fall-under-federal-quarantine-soon/

It was/is so depressing to travel North and start seeing those dead Ash trees.  I guess that there is no stopping them.

Kenosha County to Fell 2,600 Ash Trees

Kenoshanews.com (September 26) - Wisconsin's Kenosha County will down more than 2,600 ash trees in four county parks and golf courses due to damage by the emerald ash borer.

The county has secured a contract with an Oshkosh-based logging company, Koerner Forest Products, to do the job for about $17 to $29 per tree. The $78,000 contract allows the contractor to sell the logs for lumber and the branches for pulpwood.

County officials hope to sell the remaining materials as biomass to help offset costs.

The E-Forester

When the county is under quarantine, don't understand how they can sell logs and pulp, or chips to be moved out of that county.

Hmmm. Good question. I think here in Tennessee you can sell firewood from one quarantined area to another. So, they could sell the timber from Wisconsin to Ohio and other quarantined states. I could be wrong though. That's always a distinct possumbility. LOL

jrose
Thanks, I think you are right.. And by the looks of it, most of the northeast is in Fed quarantine zone.

Quote from: JohnM on June 13, 2015, 10:27:29 PM
Maybe it's been mentioned before in the thread but do the borers go after any size ash?  Or do they leave the saplings alone?  Is there any chance of the trees coming back after the borer's been through?

Any answer to this question?
young Ash are everywhere around here.
I cleared a 3 acre overgrown field  this fall, about 25% of it was Ash. All of them about 2-4 inch at the stump. Most of the bigger stuff in the woods is on its way out. But there is a ton of small stuff that right now is unaffected.

 
Good question JohnM

That would be a good question for those in MI and OH where the EAB started about 13 years ago.

How are the young ash seedlings coming, or are there none??

 Here in western Ohio they have killed big trees down to two inch trees , theres little saplings everywhere but a number of years ago the elm saplings were everywhere but have disappeared from the landscape. I fear the ash will be the same get so big and there attack them till there are know longer any seed producing trees and it will be just like the elm trees. I have one ash in my woods that still looking good but the rest [ hundreds are dead ]. I see there attacking another kind of tree south of I-70 they grow wild plus there big for yard plantings but can't remember the name anymore.

Quote from: Autocar on December 04, 2015, 09:18:30 AM
Here in western Ohio they have killed big trees down to two inch trees , theres little saplings everywhere but a number of years ago the elm saplings were everywhere but have disappeared from the landscape. I fear the ash will be the same get so big and there attack them till there are know longer any seed producing trees and it will be just like the elm trees. I have one ash in my woods that still looking good but the rest [ hundreds are dead ]. I see there attacking another kind of tree south of I-70 they grow wild plus there big for yard plantings but can't remember the name anymore.

I have another small field that until this spring was cut for hay. I'm going to push it towards native grasses and forbs. This fall I transplanted about 150 plants of about 2 dozen different types and spread about a 5 gallon bucket of collected seed in that field. While planting I found no shortage of Elm seedlings . So many in fact that as I dug them out I transplanted the new stuff in the hole where I dugout the Elms. There is still lots of seedling Elms in the small area. I'm going to go on a Elm eradication battle next spring. There are no living mature Elms in my woods next to the field that I know of. A few old dead ones. I'll have to look carefully to see if I can find some. No Ash seedlings in this field yet, lots in the woods tho.

In the first field I mentioned there were a small amount of Elms mixed in also.

One wonders how long can a Elm or any tree seedling keep getting "mowed" and still keep coming back for more?
Or is it a case of relatively small young trees putting out seeds in big enough quantity that when they hit a fertile spot with lots of light they have a high germination rate. I wish the White Oaks, Beeches, and Black Cherries were so prolific.

Oh, and lots of Ash seedlings in the woods,

Klunker
Ohio has about a 13 year headstart on the ash kill, compared to SE WI. Might should look at their experience to plan the management of your ash trees.

The elms seem to often live long enough to produce seed before DED gets them here so the species remains and hopefully will evolve.

I saw some ash seedlings in the eastern UP in MI this summer but nothing like I see in Vermont where we have so far escaped the EAB's destruction. I'm thinking on my little woodlot in VT I will likely attempt to save a few seed producing ash trees chemically to have a seed source when it makes it to my property. Hopefully an effective control is found soon enough to keep ash around.

Quote from: Klunker on December 03, 2015, 09:35:50 PM

Quote from: JohnM on June 13, 2015, 10:27:29 PM
Maybe it's been mentioned before in the thread but do the borers go after any size ash?  Or do they leave the saplings alone?  Is there any chance of the trees coming back after the borer's been through?

Any answer to this question?
young Ash are everywhere around here.
I cleared a 3 acre overgrown field  this fall, about 25% of it was Ash. All of them about 2-4 inch at the stump. Most of the bigger stuff in the woods is on its way out. But there is a ton of small stuff that right now is unaffected.

EAB has been found in ash trees less than 1" diameter.

I have been cutting dead ash from my property for six years.  Late summer / early fall I walk the woods marking any Ash without leaves for harvesting.  Several trees are coming back.  They are scarred, suckered, and the larvae galleries are visible under the bark through splits the but the canopies are rebounding on some trees.

Does someone know if they have made it into North Carolina or Virginia yet?

yes, definitely in Virginia.

RE:  FOUR NEW EAB QUARANTINED COUNTIES

LANSING – As the emerald ash borer continues its march through Michigan's ash trees, the Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development has revised the state's Emerald Ash Borer Quarantine to better reflect where Michigan is in its battle against the beetle. The quarantine revision now includes four additional counties in the Upper Peninsula – Baraga, Dickinson, Marquette and Menominee.

MDARD is revising its quarantine based on EAB detections made during United States Department of Agriculture Animal and Plant Health Inspection Services (USDA-APHIS)-led summer trapping and surveillance efforts. EAB was detected on USDA-APHIS panel traps in Dickinson and Marquette counties. The two positive traps in Marquette County were in the city of Marquette and northwest of the city of Marquette. The one positive trap in Dickinson County was near Norway.

Although there were no positive trap catches in Baraga and Menominee counties, they are close enough to infested counties that there is a low level of confidence that EAB is not already there.

Gogebic, Iron and Ontonagon counties will remain un-quarantined. The movement of regulated articles from the quarantined counties in the Upper Peninsula into Gogebic, Iron and Ontonagon counties is prohibited unless done under a compliance agreement issued by MDARD's Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division.

Firewood that has been certified for the Federal Emerald Ash Borer Quarantine by USDA-APHIS is exempt if it is packaged, bears a USDA compliance stamp and is clearly marked with the producer's name and address.

"The quarantine revision continues to protect the ash resource in Gogebic, Iron and Ontonagon counties, while recognizing the changing landscape due to EAB infestations," said Gina Alessandri, Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division Director. "Additionally, the new quarantine will ease the regulatory burden placed on Michigan's forest-based businesses and individuals moving forest products within the state."

The Lower Peninsula continues to be quarantined in its entirety and is designated as the Quarantine Level I area.  Movement of articles regulated by the EAB Quarantine can only move from the Quarantine Level I area in the Lower Peninsula into the Upper Peninsula if done under a valid MDARD Compliance Agreement.

For more information, go to the EAB website at www.michigan.gov/emeraldashborer.

The majority of my acreage is ash and EAB was located in my county (Douglas County WI) within 5 miles of my place a few years ago. I decided to be proactive and the processor moved in this morning. I'm cutting the majority of it only leaving some along the river and a few reserve pockets.

I'll be planting a few different replacement species. It's hard to see it go but I'm not taking a chance. If it hits the ash the way I think, it's going kill the whole river valley.

EAB reported in Iowa

http://kimt.com/2016/03/06/emerald-ash-borer-reported-in-31-counties-in-iowa/

The E-Forester

I am wonder about the long term results of the EAB.

I would assume at some point there has to be an equilibrium achieved.
I don't think that the beetle will cause Ash to go extinct.
In the end if the Ash tree goes extinct what does that mean for an insect that needs it to survive?

Any thoughts?

I think ash will always be around but not in the numbers it once was. EAB will kill small stems also so unless the trees develop a resistance of some kind or something else decides to feed on the bug we will see mass die off for some time to come.

I had a hard time cutting some of my lands but I did leave ash behind along the river and in reserve pockets. If it kills it, I'll just harvested what I can for my personal firewood after it dies. The rest will be wildlife trees.

They should finish the harvesting this week. It's been warm and the frost is going fast.

RE:  EAB WEBINAR

I am pleased to announce that Kathleen Knight of the USDA Forest Service Northern Research Station  be giving a free webinar on EAB University called "Update on EAB Woodland Population and Forest Dynamics" at 11:00 EST, on Thursday 24 March. 

Kathleen's presentation will be very useful for anyone interested in the long-term management of EAB in forests and cities. This webinar will review results from her long-term research on how the abundance of EAB changes during the initial invasion and how it changes after host trees have been killed.

To join the webinar on the day of the event, go here: http://www.emeraldashborer.info/eabu.php

If you are not able to attend, the recorded webinar will be available on the EABU YouTube channel the day after the event.

Please feel free to post this widely.

Cliff Sadof
Professor, Department of Entomology
Purdue University
Smith Hall
901 West State Street
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2089
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765-494-2152 (FAX)

Emerald Ash Borer in Detroit: Return to Ground Zero

8-9 June
Michigan State University Detroit Center, Detroit Michigan

Registration Link.

In 2002, perhaps the most destructive invasive forest-pest in the history of North America was identified in Detroit: emerald ash borer (EAB). Since then, EAB has killed hundreds of millions of trees across 25 states and 2 Canadian provinces. After nearly 15 years of facing the budgetary and management challenges experienced by the massive die-off of trees, communities near EAB's ground-zero are looking to the future. Attention has once again turned to planting, routine maintenance, and innovative efforts to enhance and expand the community forest.

Across both the classroom and field, this two-day workshop will focus on communities beginning to recover from EAB infestation. Urban forestry practitioners from across the midwest will provide insight on effective and varied EAB response strategies, reforestation tactics, tree inventory use before and after EAB, and making our community forests more resilient to future pests. Join us to see the effects of EAB in Detroit first-hand, and discover new strategies for your approach to community forest management.

Topics and speakers to include:
•   Dave Roberts, Michigan State University Extension
Emerald Ash Borer: It's Future and Impact
•   Todd Mistor, City of Detroit, MI
Detroit's Urban Forest: Painting a Picture with Numbers.
•   Phillip Potyondy, Minneapolis Parks and Recreation Board
Politics and Planning in Minneapolis: Thoughtful Urban Forest Management and Replanting.
•   Lydia Scott, The Morton Arboretum
Moving Towards a Health Urban Forest
•   Aaron Kingsley, City of Goshen, IN
Ash Replace Plan: Using UTC Data in Goshen, IN to Leverage Funding and Plant Trees
This workshop has been organized by a partnership between the City of Detroit, Greening of Detroit, Michigan Department of Natural Resources, Arboriculture Society of Michigan, Michigan ReLeaf, Michigan State University, and Davey Resource Group, a division of The Davey Tree Expert Company.
--
Lee Mueller
Davey Resource Group
A Division of The Davey Tree Expert Company
Grand Rapids, MI
(248) 221 - 0439
ISA Certified Arborist #MI414-8A
MI Registered Forester #46043
www.davey.com/drg

I just red this article on parasitic wasps that have been released to battle the ash borer.

I hope the wasp doesn't turn out to be a problem in a few years.

http://www.usnews.com/news/science/articles/2016-05-24/use-of-parasitic-wasps-to-fight-ash-borer-grows-to-24-states

Jon

4 borers were trapped in Harrison County near Karnack.  Ash in these parts is incidental unless around one of the river systems.  Tex Forest Service having phone conference May 31.

Been found about 4 miles from me now
Sold my ash in 09.
Should have waited a few more yrs.

Well, you probably did good to sell it when you did. It is in Bledsoe county, TN. I just don't have much, if any, ash trees. They are prevalent in our area just not on our farm.  Neighboring counties here seem oblivious so far, but it moved rapidly from Kentucky to Bledsoe County.

Finally finished reading this thread. I didn't know a thing about EAB before. Apparently, it was found in my state in 2009. Thanks to the Forestry Forum for education. Guess this was not juicy enough for mainstream media to dwell on.

If quarantines and insecticides are the best we can rely on, look for plastic ash tree replicas in museums near you.

What eats the emerald ash borer? We're not chest deep in them, so something eats 'em.

Emerald Ash Borer Continues March Across Upstate NY, Found in Saratoga County

        (Saratoga County, NY - June 13) - The New York Department of Environmental
        Conservation reported that the emerald ash borer has now been found in 34 of the
        state's 62 counties with its discovery in Saratoga County.
http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2016/06/emerald_ash_borer_continues_march_across_upstate_ny_found_in_saratoga_county.html

The E-Forester

Quote from: grouch on June 19, 2016, 05:13:29 PM
What eats the emerald ash borer? We're not chest deep in them, so something eats 'em.

Woodpeckers

Quote from: square1 on June 20, 2016, 05:36:04 AM

Quote from: grouch on June 19, 2016, 05:13:29 PM
What eats the emerald ash borer? We're not chest deep in them, so something eats 'em.

Woodpeckers

So, if we don't do stuff that kills off woodpeckers, I'd expect by now to see an increase in the woodpecker population in areas where there are lots of EAB.

Anecdotes are not evidence, but observation is the basis of science.

Decades ago, almost all grocery bags were brown paper. The joints at the bottom were perfect housing and nurseries for cockroaches. My late mother saved all her grocery bags; they were very handy for harvest from the garden -- from green beans to grapes. Naturally, she had roaches. At its worst, you could go into the kitchen at night, flip on a light, and hear the things scuttling away. I remember cans of HotShot and Raid under the sink and roach motels in corners and cabinets. Every year, she'd call the exterminator. Roaches would disappear for a time. Roaches would reappear in force. Sometime in my teen years, I convinced her to stop with the spraying. The first two years were terrible, then the roaches were almost gone. There were more spiders in and under the house, and more toads around and under the house. There were also more mice, but traps handled them.

I never convinced her to stop "dusting" her beans, though. Based on the roach observation, I've never used herbicides, fungicides, insecticides or any pesticides on my place, except for the use of some pyrethrin based pellets in my detached garage one year to deal with a massive flea invasion. (19 cats, 3 dogs, totally ineffective "flea collars" and perfectly miserable summer weather combined).

Locals warned my wife and I that bean bugs and potato bugs would eat our first garden here until the army bugs moved in to completely strip it. They were right. We still didn't spray. We fed the wild birds, got some geese, chickens and ducks and turned them loose. 2nd year we mashed potato bugs. By the 3rd year, bugs were a nuisance, not a plague. (Got rid of the geese; too noisy and they ate the wiring under my truck). Peacocks seemed to be the end of the potato bugs, but I can't swear it wasn't just a coincidence that one disappeared after the other arrived. Now, almost 40 years later, we never even think about bug damage in the garden.

Inside the house, we started with a roach problem just like my Mom's. Now, we may see one (1) roach per spring. Ants are an ongoing, unsolved spring and summer problem.

My point in all of this is that we sometimes perpetuate an imbalance in our attempts to correct it. It's not natural to have hordes of 1 kind of bug -- roaches, bean bugs, potato bugs, etc. -- concentrated in an area. A population boom in prey should be followed by a population boom in predator, barring interference. I just hope we don't try to rely on a chemical solution to EAB. Chemical warfare, in my opinion, is for short-term extreme emergencies only.

What's going on in Michigan now? (I think that was indicated as ground zero).
What's the population of EAB?
How many survivor trees are found?
Are there ash trees there with naturally higher resistance to EAB attack?
Are there more woodpeckers or other predators of EAB in that area than there were before?

Your thoughts on natural predators are probably on the right track. I see a number of parasitic wasps that prey on the EAB in their natural habitat, but aren't native the the US, have recently been released.

If that's successful then any local plague of the beetles will be followed by a spike in the little wasps that feed off them. Hopefully limiting them to a "nuisance" level where they only really get a foot hold in old or stressed trees, and healthy trees are able to fight off a minor infection.

It wont wipe out the borer, but it should stop the heavy infestations that are able to kill otherwise healthy trees.

Here's a photo I snapped in my garden in 1981:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38564/incubator-088.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1466461049)

That hornworm never moved again. Is this the same way the released parasitic wasps work? Are they tiny enough to lay eggs on or in a borer, or how does that work?

QuoteIs this the same way the released parasitic wasps work? Are they tiny enough to lay eggs on or in a borer

Yup that's the general idea. The adult wasp can find the grubs under the tree bark, paralyze it and lay eggs. The wasp larvae eat the grub, then spin their own cocoon sheltered in the grub tunnel. Then hatch out and go looking for more grubs. They reckon they will take out ~90% of the grubs, and that's hopefully enough to stop them killing the tree.

This is one of the wasps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spathius_agrili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spathius_agrili)

Thanks!

May the little wasp go forth and multiply.  :)

BTW, that (above) was the last year we had any problems with hornworms. Maybe EAB will be stopped while there are still mature trees in the wild.

It is in Omaha Nebraska as of July 2016.

 Eye of the Beetle: How the Emerald Ash Borer Sees May Be Key to Stopping It

        (Provo, UT - July 5) - Researchers at Brigham Young University may have found a way
        to stop emerald ash borers based on opsins in their eyes which could potentially be
        shut down, preventing them from finding their home or a mate.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160705160202.htm

The E-Forester

Has shown up in Houston, Texas
>:(

They announced on the news yesterday that White County, Tennessee has been added to the quarantine list. :(

I know of two very nice Ash trees on my property that have died.  I have no idea of the cause.  There were dead limbs in the crowns last year and one of them actually sprouted some green this Spring, but the leaves died.  My plans are to harvest and saw them.

Please see below information pertaining an informational meeting being hosted by Texas Agrilife Extension and Texas A&M Forest Service about the current emerald ash borer (EAB) situation in Harrison County and the emergency quarantine that went into effect July 11th. There is no RSVP required to attend and we encourage you to attend this meeting to learn more about EAB, current monitoring efforts and the current quarantine. Other cooperators attending this public meeting include USDA-APHIS, Texas Department of Agriculture, Texas Parks and Wildlife and Texas Forestry Association.




The emergency quarantine enacted by Texas Department of Agriculture restricts the movement of Ash timber and all hardwood firewood to counties/areas outside the current quarantine boundary of Harrison County. The purpose of the quarantine is to help minimize the movement of EAB through human activities such as firewood distribution and log movement. More information in regards to the quarantine and the path forward will be provided at the meeting on July 25th.

So once the ash borers kill all the ash trees, what will they target next, do they have a clue?

There are no other known food sources for EAB.

that they are telling us  any way   someone said they are going to the hard maple  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Going to the meeting tonight in Marshall to learn how the quarantine could impact our business. 

Quote from: Turfdog on July 23, 2016, 03:13:59 PM
There are no other known food sources for EAB.

Just because they can't live off it doesn't mean that they wouldn't try, like fleas on people, they will bite the crap out of you.

Quote from: Magicman on July 20, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
I know of two very nice Ash trees on my property that have died.  I have no idea of the cause.  There were dead limbs in the crowns last year and one of them actually sprouted some green this Spring, but the leaves died.  My plans are to harvest and saw them.

Hey MM,
  That sure sounds like how they effect the trees. The ashes in Cades Cove in the Smoky Mountains look just like that with the crown dying first. Mississippi is supposed to be free so far, but they are moving pretty fast.

Quote from: DelawhereJoe on July 25, 2016, 03:41:42 PM

Quote from: Turfdog on July 23, 2016, 03:13:59 PM
There are no other known food sources for EAB.

Just because they can't live off it doesn't mean that they wouldn't try, like fleas on people, they will bite the crap out of you.

Very early on Michigan forced the adult EAB to lay eggs on Maple & Walnut (maybe other species), the eggs hatched but the larvae was not able to survive on the / in the cambium of those trees.

EAB found in another county in Arkansas now, Randolph.

Emerald Ash Borer May Become a Problem for Olive Growers

(Dayton, OH - October 24) - Researchers at Wright State University have discovered
that the emerald ash borer, which has already killed tens of millions of ash trees, has
also become a threat to certain types of olive trees.

https://entomologytoday.org/2016/10/24/emerald-ash-borer-may-become-a-problem-for-olive-growers/

The E-Forester

For a long time, Vermont was surrounded by states (and a Canadian province) with Emerald Ash Borer, but none had been cited here. A couple years ago, it was spotted in one spot, then more recently in a second location.

I had always figured it was here, we just hadn't spotted it yet. Now it has just been confirmed in Bristol, VT, just a few miles down the road from me. It was inevitable, but it's still depressing to find it so nearby.

What do folks know about the effectiveness of TreeAzin, an insecticide injected into Ash trees to protect from EAB? A few folks in our town are interested in protecting some of their yard trees or other trees of sentimental value. This was being discussed as a possibility. Apparently, it's listed for use in organic crops by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI).

They are now using a parasitic wasp that is released to kill EAB. It has just finished trials before it's release. Both US and Canada have been releasing it at different sites two times a year. They just started it here in NB. I think they release 500 - 1000 at each site. The parasite is already in the larva of the EAB, which are inside branches or sticks.

They have been found in parts of Maine.

They have made their way to the Delmarva peninsula, where I work now has the largest white ash in the county and it looks like they have mostly killed it off. I need to convince the boss to let me purchase a saw with the ability to run a 36" bar and it will take a full cut from both sides.

I have seen the odd ash that is dead or dying, but not sure yet that it is borer because we always have ash that die suddenly. Something hit two ash in the yard years ago, stone dead in a week, leaves withered. I have 2 black ash on the lawn, still thriving. One shades the garden, the corn is affected on the end of the row, shade most of the day, 6-8" shorter.

Can someone sum up the basics here

I don't think i have this green one but my wood pile is crawling with  



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they are defiantly destroying the wood i was cutting on my mill for a barn shelter ..

is this a bigger problem then i know ?

i mean do i just burn the wood pile now ..

will they move to the house next ...

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New to the forum, but I discovered an EAB bug in an Ash tree we cut down in central NC. made a chair out of the wood and was wondering if it may hatch larvae later. It is a post and rung chair from greenwood. What do you all think?

Quote from: Carabnr on September 08, 2020, 11:57:20 PM
New to the forum, but I discovered an EAB bug in an Ash tree we cut down in central NC. made a chair out of the wood and was wondering if it may hatch larvae later. It is a post and rung chair from greenwood. What do you all think?

The EAB survive on the cambium (inner bark) of the tree and do not bore into the wood. This is why you see tracks when you peel the bark. They cannot subsist on a dead tree, they need healthy live bark. When they kill a tree, they move on and kill another.
 It is rare to find an EAB on a dead tree. Your chair will be fine on that score, however, powder post beetles are a different story. ;D
 Welcome to the forum.

Thank you for your welcome and reply. Glad to be able to post here now. Been struggling with PP beetles too. Guess there are some good posts here on that as well. So much to know about Greenwood harvest and drying. Look forward to learning more here.

Bugs is bad! We all know that. As I am milling EWP right now, I am dealing with these little [deleted word]:

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These are pine borers and it only takes a few days with the logs on the ground for these stinkers to set up shop.
 Sounds like you are soaking up info where you can, like me, always reading. I'd suggest using that button at the top of the home page that says "read most recent posts" and you won't miss anything. Also, using the search tool can be quite helpful, I am guessing that is how you found this older thread. Interesting things show up in what you might think were unrelated categories or threads. This site has been a super learning tool for me, and I hope it will be for you also.
 Good luck and have fun!
Tom

I was cutting spruce poles last weekend for my winter shelter when I go snow shoeing. There was sawyer beetles buzzing me as I was putting up the poles. I said, "what the heck?" and seen what they was. :-\

Yeah, when I get a chance I am going to have to look up the life cycle of these [things] because it amazes me how fast they take hold. I found beetles and also larvae in the outer bands of a few of these logs already, I am guessing if I understood them better I could figure out how long they had been at work. The first and healthiest log had a ton of the little devils (larval form) just under the bark. The sounds they make are just incredible and hard to believe at times. They feel vibrations when you approach and stop chewing. You have to sit by a log pile for a few minutes quietly until they resume chewing and then you can hear quite the show.

The EAB has moved on in this area .Of course it killed every ash tree larger than about 3 inches .The small trees it didn't bother most likely because they didn't have enough inner bark to support the larva .
I have a zillion little saplings that sprang up when clearings were opened up with the large tree die off .I'm going to transplant some down both sides of my driveway .It's now got a bunch of silver and red maple that are dying off .These maples are not typically long lived for some reason .
I have no idea the origin of where these soft maples come from because the resident maples are sugar maple .They can get some size to them and get rather large and obviously live a long time .It's not uncommon for a 100 footer,I have several .

Have not seen any signs of it on the woodlot and I have a lot of ash, it grows like a weed anywhere there is light hitting the ground.

Years ago dad cut lots of large ash here off my ground. No hardwood grows much taller than 80 feet up here, the odd one 90 on the best of sites. But they do get over 40" across, but really old at that size. DNR don't even tally them as 40", their tables only go up to 18". Heck lots of fir that size around here, when you don't keep clear cutting every 30 years. All they want to push is low grade wood products. And that is what the majority of mills want, because its all about pulp. Way more wood through the grinders than through a saw. ::) Since back in the 80's whole 100+ acre tracks of hardwood where ground up on site. Very few logs taken, and most hardwood mills here are run seasonal. Garant is the only local mill using ash for value added and that is handle and bat wood. Hardly show up on a graph of wood products. Lots of black looking logs in their yard, so not sawing much.

I like ash lumber for some things .Trim.woodwork etc .It air dries down to the point it's stable,takes stains well .It's so hard you can't drive a nail in it without a pilot  hole .It's kind of rot resistant in a way .
At one time ash made up 20 percent of all the trees in Ohio and I doubt if many lived except new sprouts .Those if they live will take over 100 years before another 100 footer is ever seen .I've got some sprouts that are about maybe 3-4 inch and 12-15 feet tall .I guess time will tell that tale .
They are like an oak tree .If they aren't grown in competition for sunlight they will never make 80-100 foot tall .

Has it gotten to South Carolina yet?

 
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The red dots in the image are where infestations have been detected.  The Dept of Agriculture has dropped quarantines on the EAB as it has not been effective.  They are now trying parasitic wasps as well as aggressive logging.

It's sickening looking at all the dead ash trees in my woods from years ago that got infected and went to waste and some big ones. 

Quote from: rusticretreater on March 04, 2022, 10:56:41 PM

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The red dots in the image are where infestations have been detected.  The Dept of Agriculture has dropped quarantines on the EAB as it has not been effective.  They are now trying parasitic wasps as well as aggressive logging.

Thanks. Looks like it has crept into my corner of SC. Interesting it has mostly stayed out of my two home states--SC and Maine.

EAB showed up last week in Forest Grove OR.  NW corner of Oregon.  They cut and chipped the trees within 48 hrs and will start with the parasitic wasps soon.
After they get done killing the ash trees what's next?  There must be secondary choices.

Being a pessimist- ;)
Let's hope the wasps work better than did the Asian Ladybugs and a few other noteworthy screwups from government scientists. 
Multi flora rose, Kudzu and a few other flops come to mind. 
 My home state of KS (as did others) promoted Russian Olive which is now invasive in some places. There's more...
  

Sitting around my fire ring on my back patio sipping a whistle pop every so often I see a stray EAB but not too often .I've saved some rather large lumber logs all cribbed above the ground  so they don't rot .Ash is not rot proof but it does last a long time before the weather gets to it .It certainly does get hard though dried out in the log after a time .I'm still cutting the wind falls for firewood and likely will be for some time to come .It's just a shame as I had 100 footers at one time .All gone now. :( 

Quote from: Old Greenhorn on September 09, 2020, 06:38:01 AM

Quote from: Carabnr on September 08, 2020, 11:57:20 PM
New to the forum, but I discovered an EAB bug in an Ash tree we cut down in central NC. made a chair out of the wood and was wondering if it may hatch larvae later. It is a post and rung chair from greenwood. What do you all think?

The EAB survive on the cambium (inner bark) of the tree and do not bore into the wood. This is why you see tracks when you peel the bark. They cannot subsist on a dead tree, they need healthy live bark. When they kill a tree, they move on and kill another.
It is rare to find an EAB on a dead tree. Your chair will be fine on that score, however, powder post beetles are a different story. ;D
Welcome to the forum.

Old reply but wanted to add, the EAB also feast on the foliage. Actually the foliage is 1st to be attacked, then the ba_t__ds travel down and lay their eggs in between the furrows on the bark. Eggs hatch and burrow through into the cambium layer and eat all the cambium. Then tunnel out and repeat. I hate them with a passion. Theyve created so much work for me and decimated my 21 acres, gell my whole neighborhood.

KJ42
Welcome to the Forestry Forum. Would like to hear more about you and your interest in trees.

Wonder if you know how long the EAB exists while eating the cambium layer out to eventually girdle the tree when that layer is gone. I'm thinking a few years at least.

Go to your profile and fill out some of that information, much appreciated to know more when posting back.

For what it's worth we still have live ash trees in Greenville and Pickens Counties, South Carolina.

For now.