the new orange saw??????

[MN Ripper]

I've got my 670's shutter in the winter position at the moment.  Can't say it makes a huge difference other than in the first 10 minutes it doesn't seem so cold blooded.  I think the manual said something about preventing carburetor icing too?? But I've never had that trouble even when the shutter is not in the winter position.  I'm sure various regions of different temps & humidity levels will control how effective the shutter could be.

[ihookem]

   A dealer near me said they are completely made in the USA except the motor. It is made by the biggest small engine 2 stroke company in the world. Is this true? It came from a Stihl/ Echo dealer.

[petefrom bearswamp]

Just picked one up NIB on ebay for $419.95 shipped to my door.
If you want one of these keep checking ebay.
I have been trying to get one for the last week and the prices vary a lot.
this replaces my bullet proof great running 17 yr old Husky 61 which is getting harder for me to start due to bad shoulders.
I am going to try to tune it properly so may need some help with the jets and muffler.
Pete

[trapper]

for a handy easy to pour without spilling bottle.  check out the bottles your wifes laundry detergent and fabric softener come in.  That is what I use for my bar oil.

[petefrom bearswamp]

saw came today was a great Ebay experience.
Started right up and I made a cut and it performed as expected.
The only downside is warrantee registration which says that it may only be warranted thru an
Echo dealer.
I am going to try to adjust the carb and muffler for higher performance.
What are the limiter caps?
How do I modify the muffler?
May need help.
pete

[petefrom bearswamp]

Oops!
Just read thru th ethread and see how to do the mods.
Pete

[sbhooper]

Just remember that when you do a muffler mod, the warranty is gone.

[Rocky_J]

Just remember that when you do a muffler mod, the warranty is gone.

If you're dealing with a shop that reads all their procedures out of a manual, then yes. If you are dealing with somebody who actually understands two cycle engines and how they work, then it really depends on what type of warranty claim you might need to make.

If you're willing to kill your saw in order to preserve the 'warranty', then by all means, please don't touch a thing and burn your saw up. It will most likely last slightly longer than the warranty period before turning into an oily doorstop. Then your dealer will look at it and tell you to buy a new one because it will cost too much to fix the old one.

[Al_Smith]

   Then your dealer will look at it and tell you to buy a new one because it will cost too much to fix the old one.

Unfortunately there is a lot of that going on . From my perspective I find a lot of good saws that way cheap which may or may not need some work on them .

You mention modifications and such done on mufflers and the benefits of running more fuel though them .Alas  though I fear it falls upon deaf ears  to a majority of folks like it's some kind of voodoo and heaven forbid the saw make any noise lest the chainsaw police  give you a ticket for noise pollution or some such thing . .

Funny though because I for one could trot out to my shed and show saws made 30 years ago before the EPA got involved in things that have lasted for decades with non resticted mufflers and cut today as good as they did when new .Fact is a few of them will hold their own against a modern saw .---2 cents worth of opinion ---

[jumpinmp]

  A dealer near me said they are completely made in the USA except the motor. It is made by the biggest small engine 2 stroke company in the world. Is this true? It came from a Stihl/ Echo dealer.

My boss has been to the Kiortz/Echo building in Lake Zurich, Illinois (right outside of Chicago?), and we've been told that the parts are mostly made in Japan and everything is shipped over to the US and assembled in Lake Zurich.  That could be info that's years old now and it could have changed... who knows.

As for the 600P.. I'm a servicing Echo dealer, and I've sold 5-6 of the 600Ps since they were introduced last year, and every single one of my customers who's bought them (loggers/homeowners/tree service guys) have come back in to tell me how much they've liked it.  Not a complaint, yet.  There's still time, though :P

[miking]

The cs600 really intrigues me and would love to try one out. My 530, 370 and 680 perform flawlessly stock and I see no need whatsoever to mod them after they've been tuned right. They're just tools to me but what tools they are. If CAD strikes me though, the 600 will be mine as well.

[Al_Smith]

Just as a point of clarification ,reworking a muffler is not the same as modifying the engine . All a muffler rework does is allow the engine to preform better without really changing it's port timing scheme .

For the engine to move more air it must be able to expel exhaust .More air equals more fuel,more fuel equates to more power .Try as one might you can't make power without fuel .

[Red 93 L1 #3383]

I also cut just a small opening in my gallon jug to fill my 1 qt 80w-90 gear oil bottle that I use to fill the saws with.  I have one bottle with a blue cap for winter oil & a red cap for summer oil.

[petefrom bearswamp]

See my new post regarding intermittent spark
Pete