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Title: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: g1xer on October 09, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
Hi all
Looking to add a new saw as my 041 is getting to be hard work in big timber (getting  much more vibes from it ) so its gonna be a stihl ms362
 https://robertkee.ie/product/stihl-chainsaw-ms-362-c-m#
 or a husqvarna 560xp 
https://www.gplshop.co.uk/husqvarna-forest-garden-products/chainsaws/husqvarna-professional-saws/husqvarna-560-xp-g.php
as i already have a stihl im going in favor of stihl but the husqvarna is a bit cheaper.I think these saws are about the same spec wise. Is one nicer to use than the other? which is best? any pros or cons for both? interested in views from anyone with experience of either also wondering if anyone has used www.gplshop.co.uk in the past, they will ship anywhere
Thanks for any information
                 G1xer
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: DelawhereJoe on October 09, 2018, 02:11:47 PM
I was in the same boat a few years ago, my 041 was a non-av saw, I decided on the Stihl ms 362 c-m as all my bars and chains would fit the saw. Even the bars from my 024 & 026 would fit the saw also, the pnly think the saw would need to run the .325 was a different rim sprocket.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: lxskllr on October 09, 2018, 03:36:09 PM
I have a 362cm, and a 362 that I haven't yet started. No complaints about the 362cm. Starts easily, and runs with good power. Never ran a Husky for comparison, but the 362cm is a solid saw.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
g1xer, being in the UK you have the MS462 available.
Unless you don't want to spend the little extra money I wouldn't even consider the 362, the 462 is the same weight  give or take a few grams and over 10 more cc displacement then the 362.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: John Mc on October 09, 2018, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
g1xer, being in the UK you have the MS462 available.
Unless you don't want to spend the little extra money I wouldn't even consider the 362, the 462 is the same weight and over 10 more cc displacement then the 362.
when the heck is that darn saw going to be available in the US?
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
Soon I hope John, mean while my old tired 562XP -20" is doing the 60-70cc chores in my fleet.

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Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: John Mc on October 09, 2018, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
Soon I hope John, mean while my old tired 562XP -20" is doing the 60-70cc chores in my fleet.
That looks like it's been around the block a few times.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: John Mc on October 09, 2018, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
Soon I hope John, mean while my old tired 562XP -20" is doing the 60-70cc chores in my fleet.
That looks like it's been around the block a few times.
Yes it does, bought it new in 2012. Was my main go to saw ever since with only 2 broken spring mounts.
Other then it doesn't like hot weather it has been mechanically perfect running without any breakdowns or repairs.
Still lots of compression and strong power for a stock 60cc saw with a muffler mod.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 11:07:11 PM
But now it is time for a more powerful 72cc saw that likes hot weather and weighs the same as the 60cc 562XP.
The 562 will then back up the 462 as a spare when there is no time to sharpen or swap out a chain.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: teakwood on October 10, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: John Mc on October 09, 2018, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
g1xer, being in the UK you have the MS462 available.
Unless you don't want to spend the little extra money I wouldn't even consider the 362, the 462 is the same weight and over 10 more cc displacement then the 362.
when the heck is that darn saw going to be available in the US?
we are all waiting for that thing!!(https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: g1xer on October 10, 2018, 08:49:17 AM
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 09, 2018, 05:09:31 PMg1xer, being in the UK you have the MS462 available

Love a 462 but for what i do its overkill and out side my budget. im just trying to find which is the best option and most easy to use and the smoothest for long days. Dont want to regret getting the wrong one
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: btulloh on October 10, 2018, 10:19:21 AM
I bought a 362cm a couple years ago.  Really like it.  Runs good.  No issues.  Good feel and balance. Good mid-size saw.  Just my experience.  Probably get the same story from Husky users too.  

A good dealer is important.  That may make a difference in your choice.

MS462 sounds intriguing, but . . . not one of the choices when I bought the 362.  Sounds like it's not a choice right now in the US.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: FloridaMike on October 11, 2018, 12:24:04 AM
I think the Stihl MS500i will beat the MS462cm to the US (this spring per Stihl's web site).  So I plan to buy the first of the two that actually hits the shelf.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: teakwood on October 11, 2018, 08:33:59 AM
I don't think that the 500i will be available in America in the spring. Sale starts in spring in Europe and i would be amazed if they open the market in the US at the same time.

Look what happened to the 462, it was released in spring 2018 in Europe and we are still waiting for the dang thing 
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: g1xer on October 13, 2018, 07:56:08 AM
Just been doing research on saws and im wondering if because of my use for the saw might a 365 be a better option?
I can cut for a week and the nothing for a month then for 2 to 3 days and leave it for 2 months, This is because of other jobs that i do that take me away for times.The 560 being a pro saw might not like being letft up for long periods but the 365 a semi pro and without autotune might be a better option?v Iknow its a bit heavier but it also has a few more cc?
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: DelawhereJoe on October 13, 2018, 09:20:43 AM
With some work you can turn that 365 into a 372 and get more power out of it. Are you set on Stihl or Husqvarna, Echo puts put some good saws at fair prices there cs 800p an 80cc saw runs about $850 and there 60cc pro saws run about $550 .
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: Skeans1 on October 13, 2018, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: g1xer on October 13, 2018, 07:56:08 AM
Just been doing research on saws and im wondering if because of my use for the saw might a 365 be a better option?
I can cut for a week and the nothing for a month then for 2 to 3 days and leave it for 2 months, This is because of other jobs that i do that take me away for times.The 560 being a pro saw might not like being letft up for long periods but the 365 a semi pro and without autotune might be a better option?v Iknow its a bit heavier but it also has a few more cc?
I have a 562 I use in production falling when I hand fall, there's times I can run it 6 months straight and like this year it hasn't been started at all but when it has set for stretches it's never given me an issue. The 372 is a fine saw I've just never cared for them that much unless they're hopped up. A Stihl is a no go for me I like my hands and not shaking at the end of the day who needs a shook up beer before you open it or no feeling in their hands?
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: maple flats on October 13, 2018, 11:16:12 AM
I can't address which brand to go with. I run all Huskys but that is because when I got my first non homeowner saw the local Stihl dealer was someone I did not trust. Once I had a Husky, I stayed with them even though the Husky dealer later also started carrying both brands.
To that, my suggestion is to go with the dealer you like best and if both brands are carried by that dealer, flip a coin. I do see advantages with sticking with one brand but I can't tell which brand is better. Personally I think both are likely good brands. Just go with a better saw rather than a throwaway model. Better does not mean it needs to be bigger, get the size you need in a quality saw.
As for Husky saws, I own 4 and all work well. Before I got my first Husky back in 2004 I went thru one Poulan Wildthing (their homeowner saw) every 12-14 months and got tired of needing a new saw that often. I bought them for $129-139 US dollars. I then bought a Husky 359 for $375 and it still works like new, as do my others, the best being a 543XP with a 20" bar and a 365 with a 20" and a 34" bar.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: sawguy21 on October 13, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
I don't know where you get the idea a 365 is a 'semi' pro saw, it is virtually identical to the 372 but has a smaller bore. Properly cared for it will work with the best of them. Sounds like your experience with Stihl is limited to the old 'laydowns', the current crop are as smooth as any. At any rate go with what you are comfortable with.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: Skeans1 on October 13, 2018, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: sawguy21 on October 13, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
I don't know where you get the idea a 365 is a 'semi' pro saw, it is virtually identical to the 372 but has a smaller bore. Properly cared for it will work with the best of them. Sounds like your experience with Stihl is limited to the old 'laydowns', the current crop are as smooth as any. At any rate go with what you are comfortable with.
If you mean the current as the 441 and 661 I have yes they are better then the 66 and 44 were but they still vibrate too much for my hands. Take a 395 your hands will not bug you near as fast as a 661 or 66 will.
Title: Re: new saw stihl v Husqvarna
Post by: barbender on October 13, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
The only Stihl I have run for a significant amount of time is the ms261cm I got last winter. It is as vibration free as any of my "Electrolux" saws, and I'm becoming quite fond of it.