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Started by redprospector, February 25, 2016, 12:14:06 AM

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redprospector

Well, tomorrow's the day! Well kinda.  :D
Going to move my Bobcat tomorrow for log handling. Friday morning I'm moving the B-20. I thinned the trees on this customers land last year, and he's now ready to mill the logs.
I've got the feeling that I'm going to really enjoy having hydraulics.  ;D



 

Maybe I'll get the hang of the hydraulics before I'm through here.  ;)
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

barbender

     That's a nice whack to get up to speed on  ;)
Too many irons in the fire

redprospector

I'm just hoping I don't mess anything up too bad while figuring it all out. This job is a long way to anywhere.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

you will get it pretty quick  :) soon as you get comfortable with which lever does what turn the hyd flow control to where it is pointing parallel with the mill with the notched end toward the back it was actually easier for me to make it smooth with more flow then all you have to do is get used to how much to push the lever. it helped me alot when it did that far as the head being jerky may not work for you but you might try it. those valves will work just like  the stick on a circle mill but the handle is so short it was hard for me to get to where i wasnt going to far /fast or stopping instead of just slowing down. now i speed up slow down as needed throughout the cut   ;D
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

ladylake

 
I push the lever all the way ahead and use the flow control valve to control the speed.  Don't forget to lower the toe boards after you get a flat side on the bed.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

drobertson

That's a good jag for sure!  keep us posted!
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

sandsawmill14

Quote from: ladylake on February 25, 2016, 05:45:46 AM
 
I push the lever all the way ahead and use the flow control valve to control the speed.  Don't forget to lower the toe boards after you get a flat side on the bed.  Steve
i wonder if i have a problem with my flow control cause i never could get it set to where i was happy with it 1 was to slow and 2 was to fast :-\ may have been the logs were so big when i was trying to learn to use it was the problem i sawed alot of 21" wide boards on the beginning :)
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

Chuck White

You'll be a pro at it by the time you get through that stack!   ;)
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

redprospector

I've mostly got to get the levers memorized. Which one does what, and which direction to move it. I've still got a lot of wasted motion going on. But it beats doing it manually.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

barbender

     Everything happens so much faster with a hydraulic mill.  When I went from my manual to the WM LT40SHD, it took me quite a while to totally get the hang of it. I still wouldn't call myself a "pro" on it, I don't get to run it enough. If I get an actual 2 weeks sawing time in a year, I'd be surprised.  Actually, it occurred to me that something that requires a similar "skill set" or mental bandwidth is a cut to length processor- lots of numbers going through your head and stuff moving at you fast ;)
Too many irons in the fire

redprospector

You're right, things do seem to happen a lot faster with hydraulics.
And speaking of things coming at you fast...the speed of the saw head coming back is almost frightening. :D On my old home made manual mill I could stack a board while it was coming back, and be there to stop it before it came to the end of the track. My old methods ain't working on this one, but I'll figure it out.  ;)
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

redprospector

Bobcat's on the job now.  8)
One more 80 mile jaunt with the mill in the morning, we'll see how long it takes me to get a method to my madness.
One bad thing is there is no cell phone service, so I can't check in on the forum in the middle of the day.  :D
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

you gonna be by yourself or do you have an offbearer ???
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

redprospector

I thought the land owner was going to be there, but when I dropped the Bobcat off about dark:30 he said he was going back to El Paso early in the morning. So it looks like I'm on my own. That's the way I usually have to work anyway. Just gotta be extra careful, and not take chances.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

yep be careful   :) if you are gonna saw full time a offbearer will more than pay for himself with a hyd mill. for me anyway seemed like i spent more time walking back and forth than sawing or stacking :-\  but you will figure out whats best for you and good luck tomorrow smiley_thumbsup
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

redprospector

Thanks.
I know a good off bearer would pay, not cost........But you know the old saying, good help is hard to find? Well around here, any help is hard to find.  :D One old guy said that around here if they're worth a durn, they've already got their own business.  :D I'll eventually have to find someone.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

i know what you mean the young folks around here dont want to work if you can even get them to show up they whine or just wont do anything ::) my offbearer is 49 and the best help i ever had :)
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

thecfarm

You'll be having so much fun sawing,you won't want to check in on the FF.  ;D
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

dgdrls

Quote from: sandsawmill14 on February 25, 2016, 11:54:16 PM
i know what you mean the young folks around here dont want to work if you can even get them to show up they whine or just wont do anything ::) my offbearer is 49 and the best help i ever had :)

I thought 49 was the new 19 :D

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sandsawmill14

it all depends on which side of it your on ;) :D :D :D i remember asking my dad if he thought he would be round when the year 2000 rolled around he just looked at me and laughed and said i sure hope so :D he turned 53 in 2000 but i was 6-7 years old when i asked him and that seemed a life time away at that time. now i think 49 is just getting started ;D it is amazing how time flies now  :)
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

redprospector

Well, it was a rough day today.
First thing that I learned was that if I'm going to do much mobile sawing, I'm going to have to invest in a pair of fenders.
Second thing was more of a refresher. When a customer says that it's good and dry, and you shouldn't have any problems getting in with the mill...Doesn't necessarily mean that it's dry, or that you won't have any problems getting in with the mill.  ;)
By the time I got the mill set up, it was after noon. I hate muddy hillsides.  >:(
I shook it off, and started sawing when the throttle started going down on the main engine. I pulled her apart to see what was up. The governor appears to be working fine, but for some reason the linkage for the throttle isn't holding.  ??? ??? I messed with that longer than I should have, and finally let the redneck that was oozing out of me take over. I tied a little mini bungee cord on the throttle linkage, when I'm ready to throttle up I pull the bungee tight, and hook it. So far it's working good, but it's going to the repair shop to get fixed right as soon as this job's done.
I sawed till dark, only got 3 logs sawed up. Oh well, we'll try it again tomorrow.  :) :)
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

it will get better :) i have the same bungee cord design on my throttle too ;D great minds think alike :D :D :D
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

redprospector

I knew there was something I liked about you.  :D :D :D
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

sandsawmill14

hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

sandsawmill14

happy birthday red 8)  hows it going with the b20
hudson 228, lucky knuckleboom,stihl 038 064 441 magnum

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