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Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?

Started by Brad_bb, June 05, 2018, 07:52:37 PM

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Crossroads

I keep 5 or 6 gas cans that only get non ethanol juice in them for the power equipment around the farm and for the sawmill. 
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waynorthmountie

One of the things that we are not allowed up here in Canada. Every pump has ethanol blended gas. :-[

flyboy16101

Ethanol free in everything except my truck. Around here they call it recreational gas and it's in it's own dedicated pump at the gas station. Be careful getting gas from the airport, if you get the wrong stuff it will burn too hot for your engine, and some of the additives might not be good for your seals depending on what they are made of. I also use marvel mystery fluid in everything I own to get extra lubrication on the fuel system.
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DPatton

Non-ethanol for sure. Usually I try and buy premium 91 octane for my mill, and all my small engines, but I have to buy it elsewhere as my local station doesn't offer premium. If I buy locally for my small engines it's non-ethanol 87 octane. 
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ljmathias

Timely topic for me. Just bought a new Stihl weedeater and was talking to the mechanic in their shop about this very subject. In his opinion (for what it's worth), it's not the ethanol that causes problems but letting the fuel sit for a while- oxidation in the fuel tank. He recommended fuel stabilizer to keep it from going bad or gelling. Wish there was some good research on this to find the answer one way or the other...

LJ
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Larry

Quote from: ljmathias on June 12, 2018, 08:53:44 PMHe recommended fuel stabilizer to keep it from going bad or gelling. Wish there was some good research on this to find the answer one way or the other...
LJ
Research huh? Husqvarna 272XP chainsaw new in 95. Husqvarna 350 chainsaw new in 99. Husqvarna 335LS weed eater new in 07. All get ethanol gas treated with Husqvarna black bottle 2 cycle oil with fuel stabilizer. The weed eater needs a primer bulb every couple of years that might possibly be caused by ethanol. The chainsaws have never had any fuel related problems. In the off seasons they sit for a couple of months without getting run.

Lawnmower, sawmill, and generator all use ethanol gas. I run them religiously the first of every month for about 15 minutes in the off seasons. No fuel related problems.

I think my savings from using ethanol gas are substantial.
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Darrel

Ethanol free is about $1.50 more per gallon putting it at about $4.75/gal. I was told by the Stihl dealer that if I used fuel stabilizer I wouldn't have anything to worry about. So that is what I do. I bought the tailgater generator at harbor freight and it says all over the package and everywhere else that if fuel stabilizer is not used the warranty is void. So I figure there must be some truth to what I was told. I hope I'm not proven wrong at some point in the future. Time will tell. 
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Brad_bb

Leaving gas in anything for an extended period is not good- more than a couple months.  The lighter constituents can evaporate, assuming it is vented, which causes thickening, and if air can get to it oxidation.  Not nearly as much an issue in a closed gas can.  In a saw, weed eater, or mower, try to run them dry or dump the fuel out and then run what's left in the carb out.
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ToddsPoint

I use ethanol because it's 35 mi. to the nearest station that sells plain gas.  If it was closer, I'd consider using it.  As is, I run everything dry every time.  No problems so far.  Gary
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tylerltr450

I run AV Gas in just about everything because it truly is ethanol free and has lead in it to help keep the valves lubed up. Chainsaws, Weedeaters, ATVs, lawnmowers you name it i put it in there because I can let something sit for over 2 years and it will fire right up without putting any additive in it.
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Just Right

Quote from: SawyerTed on June 05, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Ethanol goes in pint and quart jars NOT in fuel tanks!  Sometimes with peach, sometimes with strawberry, sometimes with apple.  Sometimes just corn and sugar.....best with a chunk of charred white oak and aged for a few months.
If your alternative fuel plant is big enough . . . . . . You will have enough to put into gallon jugs!  But I do agree with the corn and sugar!
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GDinMaine

I use fuel stabilizer in any gasoline besides the car's tank. Never had any issues even with an old push-mower, that just gets parked in the barn when mowing season is over. I just roll it back out in the spring, pull it 3-4 times and it fires right up. 
All small engines get 89-91 octane gas and fuel stabilizer. 

If you really want to be nice to your small engines buy airplane fuel. That stuff is expensive, but keeps a long time.
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SawyerTed

Quote from: Just Right on June 13, 2018, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: SawyerTed on June 05, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Ethanol goes in pint and quart jars NOT in fuel tanks!  Sometimes with peach, sometimes with strawberry, sometimes with apple.  Sometimes just corn and sugar.....best with a chunk of charred white oak and aged for a few months.
If your alternative fuel plant is big enough . . . . . . You will have enough to put into gallon jugs!  But I do agree with the corn and sugar!
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Pints and quarts are better than gallon jugs.
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Southside

Well, I am going to go against the grain here I run 87 E-10 in all my engines and I have no issues at all.  Mind you they don't sit long with the exception of the wood splitter and come spring I will dump in some fuel stabilizer, shut off the fuel supply, run it out, then drain the carb bowl.  Now to really open the can of worms, I mix Wally-world marine injection oil at 32:1 in my Husky 372 saws and my weed eater, again with no issues, and those saws run hard.  
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WLC

Nice thing about living in Alaska is that we don't have ethanol in any of our gas.  If we did you can rest assured I'd pay the extra for real gasoline especially in all my small engines.
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