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WM - "Max" log length.....?
« on: June 09, 2018, 04:10:07 PM »
I have a job next week to cut some logs up to 20' 8".  I told the guy my LT50 is rated for 21, so we are OK.  Well........
 
These will be the longest I've attempted so far, so I thought I run my mill from end to end and see what the length truly is.  Now, there is a black piece of tape on each end and I think I recall the WM rep telling me that was the max log length of 21'...stay within the tape and you're ok.  BUT.....I ran my mill from end to end and it looks like the true "Maximum" length is at 20' 10"....or really about 20' 8.5" so the blade has room to clear each end. 

There is a rubber bushing/stopper on each end I guess I could take off and gain a couple inches on each end.  Not sure?

I'd like some input on what your LT 35, 40, 50 will do.  Do you see the same thing?  Or am I missing something?  Not sure why they say rated for 21'.

Either way I should be ok at 20' 8", but I'd like more info before I make the trip and potentially embarrass myself and tick off the customer.




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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 05:18:34 PM »
I recall that you can remove the rubber bumper and gain a few inches, but put the hardware back.  You would not want to derail !!!    :o
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2018, 05:52:41 PM »
Ive taken the rubber baby buggy bumpers off several times.
Youll be fine but DONT slam the head against the metal at the end.....slowly exit the log.
Every 21 foot log I have sawn I always make a dry run from beginning to end to make sure placement is right and that the blade will fully exit.
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2018, 06:02:11 PM »
If (on my mill anyway) you have a log on the mill and the sawhead all the way toward the hitch and the end of the log is "just" in front of the teeth on the blade, when you get to the other end of the 21 foot log, the body of the blade will still be in the log/cant but the teeth will exit the far end!

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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2018, 06:30:36 PM »
It's a real pain to saw so close to max capacity. Yes, it will cut 21', but not without difficulty. If the log is off just an inch it won't go into the log, or the band won't exit the log. 
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2018, 06:59:29 PM »
    Dave nailed it. Even 1/4" past the black marks and you won't be able to get the blade in or out of the log. Longest I have sawed on my LT 35 was 20'6". Be dang sure your logs are cut square on the ends too.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2018, 07:44:27 PM »
What Poston failed to mention is what happens when you do exit the log too fast. Any bounce back at all and the back of the still turning blade hits the end of the log. The results will be hair raising lol
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2018, 07:45:50 PM »
thanks for he help.....

I've marked 20' 8.5" from end to end and made several "practice" runs to make sure I can clear the log.  (The marks I've added are about 2" inside each of the black tape marks WM added).

I called the customer expressing my concerns and he said we can cut off an inch or two as well.

And, once I get the logs loaded I will make dry-runs.  Should be fine.

I feel much better now,,,,,,,,"THANKS" again for the input.
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2018, 07:50:19 PM »
What Poston failed to mention is what happens when you do exit the log too fast. Any bounce back at all and the back of the still turning blade hits the end of the log. The results will be hair raising lol
I'm in the "Backing a running blade into the log CLUB" already!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 07:54:36 PM »
It can be nasty!  :o :o :o
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 10:26:11 PM »
I know sawing 20' on my LT40 is enough of a headache that I avoid it. 16's are plenty. One other problem sawing 20's is that my board dragback can't go past the log far enough to hook the board. It screws up the whole workflow. I think you will find sawing these max length logs enough trouble that you will wish you had charged double for them, IMHO.
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 02:30:12 AM »
You can remove the bumpers to get a little extra length. In fact, I replaced the cotter pins holding them in place with "hairpin" pins. One thing you have to watch for: if you run the head all the way to the front without the bumper, the power shoe will shear off the nylon nut that holds the contact strip in place.
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 10:43:48 AM »
You think you 35,40 and 50 guys got it bad when it comes to long logs, my LT70 with no extension is spec'ed at 20'4". Positioning/cutting a 20 footer is an exercise program in itself. Way back  when Marv was still at Salmon Arm Woodmizer, he built me an 18 inch extension out of an old piece of LT40 frame which was a life saver .....at first, but then I was wanting to do 22 footers and 24 footers so I got a 6 foot extension...Now I wanna do 30's.....it seems to be a never ending cycle.
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 11:03:54 AM »
When you get out around 57' capacity, that seems to be close to enough. 



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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 11:07:22 AM »
When you get out around 57' capacity, that seems to be close to enough.


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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2018, 03:43:27 PM »
While I was in Liberia, we saw 2 lt40s from Europe and the roller toe boards were powered. That would sure make it easier to set up a log that is close to max length. 

Another option is to leave the log over 21 and trim both ends to fit after its loaded. 
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2018, 05:59:37 PM »
You think you 35,40 and 50 guys got it bad when it comes to long logs, my LT70 with no extension is spec'ed at 20'4". Positioning/cutting a 20 footer is an exercise program in itself. Way back  when Marv was still at Salmon Arm Woodmizer, he built me an 18 inch extension out of an old piece of LT40 frame which was a life saver .....at first, but then I was wanting to do 22 footers and 24 footers so I got a 6 foot extension...Now I wanna do 30's.....it seems to be a never ending cycle.
They claim 202 on my super 70.  I have it figured out though, when I get a guy brings me in 20 logs to cut, I call my friend to bring over his hud-son that can cut 33.  16 is the longest I cut typically.  I will cut 18 if absolutely necessary.  Anything over that I sub it out.  Im too old for those kinda headaches lol 
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Re: WM - "Max" log length.....?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2018, 06:06:36 PM »
 It's this guy going to cut the 20's in half to get two 10's?   :D A false economy if ever there was one. 
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