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Started by Brad_bb, June 12, 2009, 10:23:38 PM

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Brad_bb

The other day I was at my mom's picking up the scraps of wood from the deck she just had done at her place.  She had it built of Ipe wood, a south american tropical hardwood.  It is extremely dense and very very hard.  It's also extremely rot resistant.  They say it will last 100+ years without any rot.  It is not cheap at $9 a board foot.  But it got me thinking that instead of using a pressure treated wood sil plate in my timer frame, Using this Ipe might be a much better option and more environmentally friendly. Basically laying a 1 inch Ipe board on top of SilSeal on the foundation wall, then installing the Sil timbers on top of that.  I mean it wouldn't be cheap compared to pressure treat, but relative to the cost of the house and preventing any future issue... If a timberframe can last 400 years or more, but pressure treated sils or white oak sils directly on foundation only last 100 years less, I want Ipe that will last as long as the frame.  Thoughts?

Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

moonhill

Embedded energy, why not use black locust, it should be available locally and give a local sawyer some work, keep it at home. 

Tim
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Brad_bb

Yeah, I've been trying to find someone  within reasonable distance of me to come mill some stuff for me to no luck yet.  There just isn't much of any timber in my area and thus not many(or any to my knowledge yet) mills to speak of.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

ARKANSAWYER


  IF you want to pay the $9.00 bdft I can sell you walnut or osage orange and deliver it to you.  It is grown local and is very rot proof.  You can have walnut in long lengths and different thicknesses.
  It is funny how people will spend that kind of money for an Ipe deck and not put in the same coin for walnut.  But if you want it I am here for you.
  ( I use walnut, white oak, osage, and black locust for sills all the time.  Last home we used cedar because the people were worried about bugs. ???)
ARKANSAWYER

Stumpkin

Quote from: Brad_bb on June 12, 2009, 10:46:29 PM
Yeah, I've been trying to find someone  within reasonable distance of me to come mill some stuff for me to no luck yet.  There just isn't much of any timber in my area and thus not many(or any to my knowledge yet) mills to speak of.

Hey Brad,

I'm in Grafton, IL. 50 miles north of St. Louis. I'd have to wire my lights back up and fix the tow hitch, but I've hauled my Woodmizer farther than Joilet before. We can talk more at the Rendezvous next week in KY. 
"Do we know what we're doing and why?"
"No"
"Do we care?"
"We'll work it all out as we go along. Let our practice form our doctrine, thus assuring precise theoretical coherence."      Ed Abbey

Brad_bb

Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

shinnlinger

He will be the guy with the lights out on his trailer.... with blue jeans and a cap of course....
Shinnlinger
Woodshop teacher, pasture raised chicken farmer
34 horse kubota L-2850, Turner Band Mill, '84 F-600,
living in self-built/milled timberframe home

Stumpkin

Quote from: Brad_bb on June 23, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
How would I recognize you?

Illinois Plates ..... on a black Toyota.  I'll be an instructor for the timber frame workshop before the rendezvous and I'll be doing some sharpening demos too. I'll also be carving Stumpkins if they have found any hollow logs, but they wont let me bring any firewood from out of state.

Tom
"Do we know what we're doing and why?"
"No"
"Do we care?"
"We'll work it all out as we go along. Let our practice form our doctrine, thus assuring precise theoretical coherence."      Ed Abbey

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