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General Forestry => Chainsaws => Topic started by: Phil_Oz on December 23, 2018, 03:16:48 AM

Title: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: Phil_Oz on December 23, 2018, 03:16:48 AM
Firstly, I would like to thank the senior statesmen here who share their knowledge both here and on YouTube (and sometimes they are the same people).

A question.
I have the basics re tools, but there are some extras required for this hobby.
What are your suggestions?

To try and narrow the scope;
.My first project will be to do a top end rebuild on my old Husky 50 rancher (parts on order).
.I plan to concentrate on Huskys and Stihls. I hope a 372 clone will be my next purchase/project.
.(after that, it may be whatever turns up at garage sales and the like).

I suspect the list will include; A case splitter, Torx set for Stihls. a new impact wrench, maybe a bearing press, dremel?
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: PA_Walnut on December 23, 2018, 03:38:42 AM
You will want a 2-cycle tachometer. A must have for correct tuning!
Have fun.
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: Phil_Oz on December 23, 2018, 04:21:05 AM
Quote from: PA_Walnut on December 23, 2018, 03:38:42 AM
You will want a 2-cycle tachometer. A must have for correct tuning!
Have fun.
Thanks - ordered one off ebay.
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: weimedog on December 23, 2018, 07:24:58 AM
CHAINSAW CASE CRANKCASE SPLITTER TOOL FOR STIHL HUSQVARNA & OTHERS | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHAINSAW-CASE-CRANKCASE-SPLITTER-TOOL-FOR-STIHL-HUSQVARNA-OTHERS/253983537163?epid=1268638138&hash=item3b2299380b:g:SgQAAOSw1G1ZsD~-:rk:1:pf:0)

Case Splitter Mounting Tool For STIHL MS650 MS660 Chainsaw OEM 5910 007 2222 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-Splitter-Mounting-Tool-For-STIHL-MS650-MS660-Chainsaw-OEM-5910-007-2222/254033013038?hash=item3b258c292e:g:WBUAAOSwXc9cGyNY:rk:2:pf:0)

3 x Clutch Removal Tools + Piston Locking Screw For Husqvarna & Echo Shindaiwa 606184264971 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-Clutch-Removal-Tools-Piston-Locking-Screw-For-Husqvarna-Echo-Shindaiwa/222511088909?epid=878052712&hash=item33ceb1c50d:g:0f4AAOSwZKBZGUl-:rk:31:pf:0)

CYLINDER PISTON RING TOOL KIT 34-60MM FITS STIHL HUSQVARNA CHAINSAW shop tool | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CYLINDER-PISTON-RING-TOOL-KIT-34-60MM-FITS-STIHL-HUSQVARNA-CHAINSAW-shop-tool/150992536241?epid=1646277669&hash=item2327db42b1:g:CpYAAOSwWxNYznyz:rk:27:pf:0)

Assembly Tool Husqvarna Craftsman 365 371 372 372XP 502503015 Chainsaw OEM 28672943074 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Assembly-Tool-Husqvarna-Craftsman-365-371-372-372XP-502503015-Chainsaw-OEM/401526594212?epid=18019879458&hash=item5d7cd99aa4:g:bLoAAOSweWZboczx:sc:ShippingMethodExpress)!13209!US!-1:rk:2:pf:0

Husqvarna Crankshaft puller bearing case Tool Chainsaws 40 45 51 55 WS 265 250 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Husqvarna-Crankshaft-puller-bearing-case-Tool-Chainsaws-40-45-51-55-WS-265-250/302865272467?epid=4007157015&hash=item46842d4e93:g:xo8AAOSw8bpakFtV:rk:35:pf:0)

Electronic Specialties ES 329 Small Engine Tach/Hour Meter One Year Warranty 858834005070 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Specialties-ES-329-Small-Engine-Tach-Hour-Meter-One-Year-Warranty/252412844105?epid=1665136605&hash=item3ac4fa5849:g:XCcAAOSwzJ5XUfHi:rk:81:pf:0)

CRAFTSMAN 7pc Metric T-Through Handle Ball End Hex Key Set 9-46384 Allen Wrench | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-7pc-Metric-T-Through-Handle-Ball-End-Hex-Key-Set-9-46384-Allen-Wrench/323572106146?epid=1238963796&hash=item4b566683a2:g:6kEAAOSwF5Vb-iAJ:rk:1:pf:0)

( For Husqvarna need 3mm for carburetor Screws, 4mm For Cylinder Bolts, 5mm For Muffler Screws at a minimum and LONG handles )

NEW! GENUINE STIHL SPARK PLUG / TORX WRENCH, SIZE 16MM - 19MM - T27 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GENUINE-STIHL-SPARK-PLUG-TORX-WRENCH-SIZE-16MM-19MM-T27/113387319347?hash=item1a66693033:g:jeIAAOSwXwFcBtQ2:rk:2:pf:0)

BONDHUS T-Handle Torx T27 Wrench 7.4 Inch USA 33027 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/BONDHUS-T-Handle-Torx-T27-Wrench-7-4-Inch-USA-33027/262273233267?epid=1053249721&hash=item3d10b3f173:rk:4:pf:0)

3Pcs Screwdriver Carburetor Adjusting Service Tool Set Splined Pacman Double D 741870462627 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/3Pcs-Screwdriver-Carburetor-Adjusting-Service-Tool-Set-Splined-Pacman-Double-D/264038920491?epid=5025858133&hash=item3d79f2312b:g:2jEAAOSwYYpb656n:rk:3:pf:0)

Mityvac 8500 Silverline Elite Hand Vacuum Pump Test Kit | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mityvac-8500-Silverline-Elite-Hand-Vacuum-Pump-Test-Kit/232844945047?epid=1611868315&hash=item3636a3e697:g:o68AAOSwHlRbRjUg:rk:6:pf:0)

Cylinder Compression Tester Test Tool Kit Professional Mechanics Gas Engine USA 711221790389 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cylinder-Compression-Tester-Test-Tool-Kit-Professional-Mechanics-Gas-Engine-USA/141874381390?hash=item21085f424e:g:EtYAAOSwGz9aoQN7:rk:1:pf:0)
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: Phil_Oz on December 23, 2018, 07:55:18 AM
Thanks M.
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: weimedog on December 23, 2018, 08:06:43 AM
AND since you said Husqvarna 372's, the X-torqs have this nasty habit of eating pto bearings...and when you pull them apart,  they leave the outer race stuck in the case....I use heat and the following to get them out:

5pcs Inner Blind Bearing Puller Set Internal Slide Hammer Tool Remover US Stock 681385610130 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-Inner-Blind-Bearing-Puller-Set-Internal-Slide-Hammer-Tool-Remover-US-Stock/223089457016?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D4026db70af4d4760beefdfd105123563%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D192008788503%26itm%3D223089457016&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)

Also saws like the 562 and 576 with stuffers, sometimes the bearing stays on the crank shaft..I use these to pull them off:

14pcs Bearing Separator Puller Set 2" and 3" Splitters Remover and Bearing Kit 614019645673 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/14pcs-Bearing-Separator-Puller-Set-2-and-3-Splitters-Remover-and-Bearing-Kit/262857045215?epid=569046972&hash=item3d338034df:g:GR8AAOSwl29b7j~N:rk:13:pf:0)

I have an ancient 2 jaw puller that works on flywheels, but could grind one of these to work I guess.
8 Inch 2 Jaw Bearing Puller Car Auto Motorcycle Bushing Remover Extractor Tool | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Inch-2-Jaw-Bearing-Puller-Car-Auto-Motorcycle-Bushing-Remover-Extractor-Tool/283105544991?hash=item41ea67cb1f:m:m8dXrq17QojGBf2g7SSD2tw:rk:12:pf:0)
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: weimedog on December 23, 2018, 08:14:53 AM
I modified one of these to do the chain brake springs for both Stihl & Husqvarna
OTC Tools 4592 Truck Brake Spring Pliers | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/OTC-Tools-4592-Truck-Brake-Spring-Pliers/312248882779?hash=item48b37bd65b:g:1u8AAOSwrqBbqs18:rk:49:pf:0)
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: weimedog on December 23, 2018, 08:16:11 AM
Seal drivers, I have the OEM Husqvarna and Stihl drivers, but also have the following as a base line:
HFS(R) Bearing Race And Seal Driver Set - 10 Piece And Case | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HFS-R-Bearing-Race-And-Seal-Driver-Set-10-Piece-And-Case/282546192049?epid=4018681373&hash=item41c910beb1:g:GHMAAOSwA7dbemMk:rk:2:pf:0)

Stihl Chainsaw OEM Specialty tool MS660 seal installer 066 064 1108 893 2405 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-Chainsaw-OEM-Specialty-tool-MS660-seal-installer-066-064-1108-893-2405/292731992800?epid=1961454792&hash=item44282fbae0:g:wu4AAOSwcSFbR8lb:rk:7:pf:0)

VERY Usefull!
Husqvarna crankcase seal removal tool flywheel side 362 365 371 372 61 268 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Husqvarna-crankcase-seal-removal-tool-flywheel-side-362-365-371-372-61-268/380090940386?hash=item587f2f7be2:g:e9kAAOSwn7JYElpp:rk:5:pf:0)

But that is an over view....and for each saw you can look either to a dealer or on eBay for the seal drivers and things if you get that far into them. Sockets do work, and a cheap harbor freight press also can work, just the chances of putting bearings and cases together without issue is better with the right shop tools....it DOES add up! But you posted this as if you plan to do a few over time....get the right stuff and save a ton of aggravation!

That's my ten cents.
Title: Re: Toolkit and jigs required for the chainsaw hobby/bug?
Post by: Phil_Oz on December 23, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
M. Thank you so much for unselfishly sharing your knowledge and experience.

I'll work up from the basics. I'm considering another bench for the garage optimised for chainsaw work - maybe a mini something similar to an engine stand that bolts where the bar would go and turns and swivels.

Re the 372, I will take on board the advice not to consider the out of the box clone 'ready to roll' and assess it first.

[Edit to add]

I've put your very useful lists into a word file.
We have different stores here - I checked out what SuperCheap Auto (auto parts and tools store) have and will have a look at Bunnings and Repco after Christmas - and see what I can get at walk in stores vs online. (And the local Saw dealers too).
(I forgot to add - many of those e-bay stores don't ship to Aus/NZ, and sometimes the shipping on those that do is more than the cost of the item - c'est la vie ).