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Husqvarna 162SE -a couple questions.....

Started by lledwod, November 22, 2014, 08:41:07 PM

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lledwod

 
Hi there! Sharing some photo's of a 'new' saw here. Along with a couple questions....  this one was given to me by a lady who had been told by the local Husqvarna dealer that it 'wasn't worth fixing'. I received it just as you see it here. I splashed a little fuel in the carb and it fired right up. So I pulled and cleaned the carb (it looked fine) and cleaned the filter and went and bucked some wood, enough to see the oiler wasn't working. The saw ran and idled very nicely. So I pulled the clutch, and the pump drive worm is missing. Everything else looks great to me.

So I guess I have two questions, any idea the vintage? Serial # 1023425

And I havn't looked into it yet but I am wondering if a rim sprocket set-up would be available for this saw?

Thanks!



  

  

  

 

NCFarmboy

Real Nice 162!  1981 YM and yes a rim sprocket system is available.  Can't remember Oregon PN off the top of my head.
Shep
Lots & Lots of Saws

isawlogs

 That there saw is in really good condition. I bought my first real saw back in 1980-81 and it was a 162se first professional saw Husky made. I still believe that it was one of there best saws ever. Get in touch with Chainsawr (sponsor on the left ) He may have an oiler for you. They are a great saw, I still have mine but it is worn out... :-\  It would not surprise me that it has its original bar on that saw, man she looks just like new.  :)
A man does not always grow wise as he grows old , but he always grows old as he grows wise .

   Marcel

HolmenTree

Yep Husqvarna 162SE first introduced in 1976. The saw that set the benchmark standard for todays pro saws.
And to think in '76 I settled for a Jonsereds 621 :embarassed:
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

isawlogs

I bought mine in 78 not 80'81...   ::)  not that it matters any  :D :D  Still a great find.
A man does not always grow wise as he grows old , but he always grows old as he grows wise .

   Marcel

SawTroll

Quote from: NCFarmboy on November 22, 2014, 08:50:45 PM
Real Nice 162!  1981 YM and yes a rim sprocket system is available.  Can't remember Oregon PN off the top of my head.
Shep

Yes, a very nice looking 162se - the forefather of all the versions of the 61, 166, 266, 66, 268 and 272 + the Jonsered 630, 67o and 625.

I am actually not sure that it is a 1981 saw, as that was before the production time was coded into the serial number, based on my earlier observations....
Information collector.

sawguy21

I have to wonder why the dealer decided it was not worth fixing. It looks to be in very good condition.
old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm

HolmenTree

It probably only cut hardwood in the past from how clean it looks..
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

lledwod

Well thanks for the replies! I look forward to getting the oiler part and really trying the saw out. Once I've put a few tanks through it and its proven its self I'll look into a new sprocket. As for the local dealer, I have seen some pretty questionable diagnostics come out of there. Its an industrial parts store; chainsaws are just a minor side line though they are a Stihl and a Husqvarna dealer.

nhlogga

Quote from: sawguy21 on November 23, 2014, 12:19:13 PM
I have to wonder why the dealer decided it was not worth fixing. It looks to be in very good condition.

Cause the dealer wanted to sell a new saw to someone who didn't need one.............
Jonsered 2260
Husky 562xp

isawlogs

  It is an old saw, and we all know that old saws are no good....  ::)    ::)
A man does not always grow wise as he grows old , but he always grows old as he grows wise .

   Marcel

HolmenTree

Quote from: isawlogs on November 24, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
  It is an old saw, and we all know that old saws are no good....  ::)    ::)
A saw is only as good as the operator.
Over the years I've heard complaints about "junk saws", then upon closer inspection I realized it was just the "junk operator" :D
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

weimedog

Two questions... open port or closed port cylinder?
If it's  the "first" in that chassis series, I have to wonder if I could take one and replicate the 1978 "61" to 61/272 hybrid saw. I know.. why ravage a vintage historical saw.

Did the Jonsered 621 of the time have open or closed port cylinders...
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Spike60

162's are 48mm closed port cylinders. They used the same top end as the Jonsered 630. When the 266 came out, Husky stopped using that top end, but Jonsered continued to use it on the 630 throughout the model run. Only change was that the early saws had thin rings and the later saws had the standard ring.

That saw is a bit too nice to hack up unless the original cylinder is toast. And it is an early 162 as evidenced by the screw in the center of the top cover, so I don't think it could be an '81.

The Jonsered 621 was of course a closed port saw. Shocking lapse in so highly a respected member here.   ;)

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weimedog

 :D  :D
Not a lapse.... :) Just making the point those old Jonny's were ahead of their time in cylinder design... needed a a follow on from a true Husqvarna/Jonsered guy to hammer that point home..  :P ::)
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

SawTroll

Quote from: HolmenTree on November 24, 2014, 09:41:21 AM

A saw is only as good as the operator.
Over the years I've heard complaints about "junk saws", then upon closer inspection I realized it was just the "junk operator" :D

smiley_clapping smiley_clapping

Information collector.

SawTroll

Quote from: Spike60 on November 26, 2014, 10:02:25 AM
162's are 48mm closed port cylinders. They used the same top end as the Jonsered 630. When the 266 came out, Husky stopped using that top end, but Jonsered continued to use it on the 630 throughout the model run. Only change was that the early saws had thin rings and the later saws had the standard ring.


It was of course the other way around - and Jonsered didn't actually do any of this - it all happened at the Husky factory!   :)

Apart from that, I totally agree with your post!
Information collector.

HolmenTree

Husqvarna 162se  introduced 1976, both Husqvarna 266 and Jonsered 630 in 1982.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

weimedog

And when was the 621 (closed port design) introduced? Around 1970?
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

SawTroll

Quote from: weimedog on November 26, 2014, 02:02:20 PM
And when was the 621 (closed port design) introduced? Around 1970?

Yes, 62 in 1968 and 621 in 1970 - the slightly older 601 and 60 used the same top end though.

It may have been the first chainsaw cylinder to have a Nikasil coating - but I can't prove that....
Information collector.

weimedog

 ;D Those Jonsereds... ahead of THEIR time....
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

dennyb

Quote from: lledwod on November 22, 2014, 08:41:07 PM

Hi there! Sharing some photo's of a 'new' saw here. Along with a couple questions....  this one was given to me by a lady who had been told by the local Husqvarna dealer that it 'wasn't worth fixing'. I received it just as you see it here. I splashed a little fuel in the carb and it fired right up. So I pulled and cleaned the carb (it looked fine) and cleaned the filter and went and bucked some wood, enough to see the oiler wasn't working. The saw ran and idled very nicely. So I pulled the clutch, and the pump drive worm is missing. Everything else looks great to me.

So I guess I have two questions, any idea the vintage? Serial # 1023425



And I havn't looked into it yet but I am wondering if a rim sprocket set-up would be available for this saw?

Thanks! 

Sprockets bars chains hub , and clutch are the same as the 61,266,268, 272. It has a chain break so 81 or 82 another way to tell is to look at the head it it has Maher stamped on it then it was made before the electrolux takeover. I ran 162's for years tree spacing until they stopped making them and I ran the 266's for over ten years and to this day I think the 162 was a better saw. There aren't any power specs available that I know of for the 162 but if the 61 was 3.9 hp then the 162 was easily 4.5. They weren't the same saw at all. The 61 had one ring and a solid piston, the 162 had 2 rings and a double walled ported piston. It was more like the 630 Jonsered than the 61. The 162 was a revolutionary saw.



  

  

  

 

lledwod

Thanks for the reply's and help! Strangely enough only a couple days after 'discovering' this saw in my shed, I was rooting around in my friends shed and saw the same identical saw! He happily handed it to me (to fix up for him :( ) so now I am waiting for parts (fuel line, carb kit) I'll see about posting pics of the two of them once they've been all tuned up.

SawTroll

Quote from: dennyb on December 20, 2014, 09:38:26 PM.....
There aren't any power specs available that I know of for the 162 but if the 61 was 3.9 hp then the 162 was easily 4.5. 
.... 

That isn't quite correct. The 61 was rated at only 3.6 hp back then, and the 162se at 4.2 hp. The main differense was a closed port (162) vs. an open port (61) cylinder, as you indicated.
Information collector.

SawTroll

Quote from: HolmenTree on November 22, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
Yep Husqvarna 162SE first introduced in 1976. The saw that set the benchmark standard for todays pro saws.
And to think in '76 I settled for a Jonsereds 621 :embarassed:

Well, the 630 eventually replaced the 621, but not before 1982 or so....
Information collector.

HolmenTree

I bought my first Jonsereds 621 in 1974. My 630 in 1982.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

346xp

The Oregon rim sprocket kit should be 26831 I have used them and they fit well

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