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Walnut Trees Up the Creek

Started by Magicman, January 24, 2012, 05:57:36 PM

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reride82

I agree with beenthere on the forgiveness issue. Some people get real wound up when stream beds are involved, even though there can be way more disturbance and destruction during spring runoff or during a flood. Are you planning on sawing them up with the root ball still attached? Those could make for some cool slabs  ;) I would image that'd be pretty hard on blades though  ::) Either way, it sounds like a fun project  ;D
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Magicman

Quote from: beenthere on January 25, 2012, 04:35:44 PM
Or maybe just a line in the tree and pulling would be enough to dislodge rootball and all?
Pulling and with a little help then axing roots still holding in the bank and the tap root might work.

That is more to my thinking.
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Sprucegum

Those trees look pretty straight, they must not have grown up as leaners.

Maybe the tap root is already damaged? How big is the ap root compared to the stump?

pineywoods

You could just wait for a good hard rain and then setup downstream and wait for them to float by  ;D Seriously, I would go for the cable (a long one) and massage the roots with a backhoe or axe. I'm sure doctor B would advise against climbing the tree to attach a cable, but there are other ways.
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SPIKER

yep I might just help them down into the creek with some of the backhoe on there and remove out all the loose dirt that dropped in the creek and then let her set for the spring runoff to clean up the stump some...   knock loose the root ball as much as ya can first and pull out any extra dirt piles so flow can get around the roots though...

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bandmiller2

Majic,how do you clean the root ball enough to mill.??Too bad it couldn't sit in a fast moving stream for a wile to wash it clean. Frank C.
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Bill Gaiche

He has a high pressure washer. bg

metalspinner

My buddy has a couple just like that on his farm here in TN. I pointed them out and mentioned I'd help clean them out when the creek took them down. ;)

I'll watch eagerly while you show us how you do it.
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sjfarkas

They're in the creek bank!  If you take the stump out you'll end up with more erosion.   use the slash from the tree to put on the exposed dirt to help hold it there.  Good luck getting them out. 
Always try it twice, the first time could've been a fluke.

Ozarkian

Place a stick of dynamite down as far as you can reach under the roots, run a long fuse... Light it and run!!  Make sure you have a tripod with video recorder rolling in place first!  ;D That should get her down. It'll be a BLAST too! ;) ;)

Then saw up the log and send me the lumber. You know you wanna!

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Don K

Looks like a project me and Terry would love to do. We have some experience with creek retrievals. ;D Don't worry to much about bank erosion as it has been happening just like that since the dawn of time. Better to control the outcome than wait to clean up after mother nature. I recently reclaimed a huge WO from a creek bank in a gully and wish I had pics of the event. But alas I mostly work by myself and do not stop to take pics when I get up a head of steam. Wish I had 2 walnut trees like that. :(

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Bill Gaiche

Was just wondering if MM is ok. Havent heard from him sence he said he was headed for the cabin. I guess he is checking to see if his walnut trees are still there. He maybe trying to get them to the bank. bg

beenthere

Thought he said he was pulling the mill off somewhere (but then it rained) and/or was heading for the cabin. Sounded like he'd be "out a touch" for a time.

QuoteMy plans changed drastically this morning when the phone rang.  Note the "Parbuckle" thread.

I postponed a road trip (115 mile) sawing job this week because the forecast said rain.  It hasn't rained in the daytime and three more jobs have come in.  What the heck, I'm gonna load up and go to the Cabin for a few days.   
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LeeB

mebbe he's out gaurding his highly valuble walnut trees
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WDH

He must be up the creek somewhere.
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captain_crunch

Magic
looks like tops are hung so they dont fall of their own accord I would sugest you give em a little boost Whole tree and root wad(Oregon termnoligy) will be problem if you can saifly cut a short log off when they lay out flat it would be easier Wish I were closer bucking root wads is day to day work for a West Coast Timber Faller some of them were 50-60 in at wad end JUST becarefull ole buddy
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Magicman

Some of you got it right.  I am "Web Free" at the Cabin.   ;D

Since I had three more SYP logs to Parbuckle and haul home I just deadheaded the trailer to the Cabin, worked on my ceiling for parts of 4 days, and then picked up my SYP logs on the way home this evening.

After looking at them again, I have decided to wait until I haul my backhoe over to my place before I attempt those Walnut trees.  My little red wagon is already loaded too heavily to mess with them otherwise.
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eastberkshirecustoms

Puff...and in a cloud of smoke.... he returns. It's been kinda lonely without your posts ;)

Magicman

Thanks for missing me because I really need some adult supervision sometimes.    ;D   :D 
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Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Bill Gaiche

Lonely? I bet Mrs. MM was pretty close by. bg

Magicman

Yup, and when she is there I don't have to eat "sammiches" for every meal.   ;D
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MM, nothing better than great support. bg

Slingshot


  Those are some good looking walnut trees. Should make lots of furniture grade
lumber. Makes me want to go up the creek and whack down a couple nice ones
I have.





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