A day cutting wood

Chuck White · February 04, 2016, 05:00:11 PM

I've had a couple do that, over the years, and I've had them so tangled that I take the B-57's off before trying to free up the band! ;)

Kbeitz · February 04, 2016, 05:21:28 PM

Part of my cover is made out of 2x6 wood. I had a broken blade stick in the wood
far enough that i had to use vise gripes to pull it out.

terrifictimbersllc · February 04, 2016, 05:38:22 PM

Tuesday I pulled my blades out of the flat pack box I keep them in, and one of them was broken. Must have been just too much for it to think of going back on the mill.

Peter Drouin · February 04, 2016, 06:48:27 PM

Wow, Was you just getting started to make a cut, and it went just before you went into the log?
I never had that happen.

My day was not as exciting as yours. Cut a little W Oak.

And this thing W Oak.

I will cut them for a customer But, I don't like to. I like cutting reg logs. Like this cherry today.

Had a customer buy the log, 10' 250 BF. Then cut it in ½. :D :D :D.

More mud today.

etroup10 · February 04, 2016, 07:48:09 PM

I haven't sawed too many, but every white oak crotch that I've milled, it's had a lot of green color too it. Anyone else experience that? I haven't seen them after they dried so I don't know if it still has that color after drying.

Magicman · February 04, 2016, 08:40:46 PM

Fresh felled Walnut also has a green tint when it is sawn. Oxidation happens fast and that tint goes away quickly.

4x4American · February 04, 2016, 10:03:15 PM

Quote from: Chuck White on February 04, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
I've had a couple do that, over the years, and I've had them so tangled that I take the B-57's off before trying to free up the band! ;)

I had to do that tuesday, take off the B57 to free a band, less fighting that's for sure.

Quote from: Magicman on February 04, 2016, 08:40:46 PM
Fresh felled Walnut also has a green tint when it is sawn. Oxidation happens fast and that tint goes away quickly.

I love that green tint. It's neat to watch it turn.

Peter Drouin · February 15, 2016, 06:45:58 PM

Trucker came with some 24'&20' hemlock today.

And some shake :D :D

And one I don't know why. :D :D

I will cut it and get some 2x4s out of it, And I did give him a little $ for it.

This one I deducted an 8x8 right out of the scale. He gross out 4000BF

All an all some nice wood, Should have a truck with 6000Bf coming too with hemlock.
With the cold here. We have to giddy up to get some wood in. Next will be some W Pine. And maybe, just maybe, some W Oak. ;D

4x4American · February 15, 2016, 07:07:16 PM

Nice. On the ones with shake, will you cut around the shake? I have some hemlock logs with shake and I am wondering if it's just bad where the shake is or if the whole log is no good because of it? A local logger once told me that he won't send out any hemlock for sawlogs unless it has sat for two weeks to see if any shake starts to show and that if there is any he'll send it for pulp instead. Just curious because where the logs are it will be a hassle to get them out so it'd have to be worthwhile to saw them, or else I'll just buck for firewood.

Peter Drouin · February 15, 2016, 08:19:56 PM

Hard call sometimes. I don't want shake, but it comes in sometimes. I can see it when the tree is cut down. When you cut as much hemlock as I have, you will have an eye for it. On that log I will box the shake and use it for blocking. I will get some lumber out of it too.
A tree cut with a chain saw is easy to see it. Cut with a fellabuncher can be tricky. All in a day cutting wood. ;D

4x4American · February 15, 2016, 09:33:37 PM

Yup I saw the shake as soon as I dropped it. I've heard it called wind shake, and ring shake, the latter being a disease or something. Any truth to that?

Magicman · February 15, 2016, 09:52:32 PM

Shake is disease/bacteria between the growth rings, but I have no idea how or why.

venice · February 15, 2016, 09:53:31 PM

Tension for the most part. Frost sometimes. But no disease. As far as i know.

venice

4x4American · February 15, 2016, 10:08:59 PM

So you can see my confusion :D :D

venice · February 15, 2016, 10:12:35 PM

To my knowlege an infection would be a secondary occurence following the separation of the growth rings caused by force or frost. Hence the name "wind shake". Some species are more prone to it than others.

venice

beenthere · February 15, 2016, 10:30:23 PM

Venice
Not wind shake... it's an "old wives" tale...

bacteria introduced somehow, and several theories as to how... even cattle grazing around the tree roots.

http://www.nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_ne267/gtr_ne267_156.pdf

4x4American · February 15, 2016, 10:47:55 PM

BT is there a website where you find these forest service pdf's? Would love to poke around lots of good info they have.

beenthere · February 15, 2016, 11:12:22 PM

4x4
Google "Hemlock tree ring shake bacteria Shigo" for what I found.

Dave Shepard · February 16, 2016, 08:34:59 AM

I kept smelling something on my hands last night. Couldn't wash it off. Then I remembered I'd been working a hemlock timber yesterday. Every time I work hemlock, I keep looking around for a horse. :D

venice · February 16, 2016, 11:44:57 AM

BT, i was wrong. Bacteria can also cause ring shake. Looked it up and you are right.

Thanks. venice

Peter Drouin · February 16, 2016, 05:02:34 PM

-10 a day ago 40° today. I did not run the mill in that cold, but today at 40° I was but the cat was at -10. Frost all over it. So I warmed it up. :D

How do like that beenthere, fire 12" away from the sawdust. :D :D :D :D :D :D

The lumber had frost too. The cat started like summer time.

Have to cut some pine Wensday, So I pulled out some logs that might thaw out with the rain we get tonight, Maybe. ;D

4x4American · February 16, 2016, 05:39:34 PM

All in a day cutting wood...no sawring here today...got 5.5-6" of snow last night and then woke up to rain this morning...It's been raining all day, what a mess..can't wait for all that rain to freeze tonight so I can ice skate to the job tomorrow lol windy here now and the rain is finally letting up.