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What length Cant hook to buy?

Started by Brad_bb, October 04, 2014, 09:06:56 PM

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Brad_bb

I have a new LT15go.  I need a Cant hook.  Logrite has them from 24"-60".  How am I supposed to know how long to get?  I'm thinking 60" in case you ever need the leverage?  Maybe that would be awkward when you don't need that long?  Too bad you can't buy a 48" and then add an extension if you need it...
Any input?  I'm 5'9.
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Don_Papenburg

Buy the 48 and turn a nice birdseye maple extension ,or if you really want to grunt  make one out of osage.
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jaygtree

i'd go with the 60'' too, so you have the leverage when you need it. mine is a 48'' but the next time i replace the handle it will be with a 60''.   if you get a shorter one you can extend the handle with a piece of pipe when needed but that's more monkeying around.  jayg
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dgdrls

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I started with a 48" and then acquired a 60"
both are superb.

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Dave Shepard

I have the 60". A good length for a manual mill. If you were to get a second, then a 30" or a mill special is a great companion for smaller logs, or when you have the log busted down to a reasonable cant.
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Larry

The 78" Megahook, especially with a manual mill.  I have one and it even works well on smaller logs.  I have a 60" Dixie that never gets used but I do use a 4' one on smaller logs.  I would like to get the Mill Special to flip cants or when help is needed on a big slab.

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delvis

We have a couple cant dogs and a couple Peaveys.  I find the cant dogs more useful most of the time as I don't need the spiked end a Peavey has very often unless I am trying to drive it into the ground to hold one end of a log while we roll the other end forward some.

The newest cant dog is actually made by Peavey and has the right angle on the hook to be able to grab most any log.  It is 48".  Our old cant dog is one my grandfather made and has what I would guess to be a 24" handle plus the head.  This gets more use than anything else because it is so handy and sized just right for everything but the biggest logs.

I really like the look and feel of the Log Rite tools, but when the weather gets cold, that metal handle wouldn't cut it for me.
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Ocklawahaboy

I bought the 42" and it is about 18" too short for the 1000lb log I just milled.  It is also 42" better than nothing though. 

cousin jw

There are three different hook sizes offered by Logrite. Look on their website and match the log sizes you will be milling to the correctly sized tool. I get the most use from my 60" followed by my megahook. My 48" is my least used cant hook. YMMV

Dan_Shade

I have a 48", three 60" (a cant hook and 2 peaveys), and two 78" ones.

the 60" will do most every task.  I use the 48 to turn cants on the mill when I can turn faster than the hydraulics.

I have two 78", because I figure if I need one, I need a helper!
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Brad_bb

Thanks for all the input fellas.  I think I'll try the 60" to start with.  As far as metal handle in winter, I always wear gloves, even in the summer-thin, form fitting leather palmed gloves.  So my hands stay protected yet I sill have sensitivity.
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backwoods sawyer

I have a pair of 60" PV's
A pair is handy, now you are only doing 1/2 the work ;)
stearing the logs is easy with two and when you almost got it there the second one takes it the rest of the way.

Today on flat land little Jo and I loaded 6 Oak and maple 16"-24" logs on the trailer (four on the bottom two larger ones on top) by simply rolling the logs up a set of ramps on the side of the trailer with the two pv's.

There are times a pair of 78" are more practical, and a short one is on the want list as well ;D
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Brucer

My first Logrite cant hook was a 30" mill special. It's still my "go-to" cant hook -- first thing I take out of the office/toolroom when I start the day.. I use it for rolling logs up to the mill, for "rolling" big timbers after they're off the mill, and to turn a  log that the regular turner is trying to push up over the side stops.

For stuff that the mill special won't handle I have a 60" logrite. It spends most of its time in the toolroom, but when I need it I'm really, really glad it's there.

Don't forget, with the longer handles you have to push them further to turn the log the same amount. I'm about your height and I find the long handle can be a pain on my LT40. If I had a mill sitting closer to the ground it might not be so bad.
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js2743

get the 60" you could always cut it off if you dont like it.  :D

WoodenHead

I have two 48" cant hooks and an 18".  I would recommend the 60" for just that little extra leverage with the larger logs.  The short one is great for quick turning of small logs and cedar.

I had two 48" cant hooks so that a helper and myself would have one.  When my helper disappeared I still found two useful by myself.  Rotating odd shaped logs can be a pain, so two cant hooks strategically placed can be a big help.   ;) 

just_sawing

On the ground a 60 inch is great, this gives you leverage without bending over. On the log deck 48 inches is great this gives you leverage but is useful between logs and such. On the mill 24 inches is a must. with the mill tight quarters it works the best.
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thecfarm

I like the 60 inch one. I prefer a peavey,the one with the point. Allows me to use the point to pry the logs apart.
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Peter Drouin

Quote from: delvis on October 04, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
I am trying to drive it into the ground to hold one end of a log while we roll the other end forward some..




Try putting a piece of slab in the middle of the log and roll the log on top of it so both ends are up off the ground and you can turn the log with one finger ;D
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WDH

The 60" is a must have.

You need two, so that your assistant can help you turn the logs that you should have known better than to saw. 

My combo is a 60" for the normal sane logs, and a 78" for those insane large logs. 



 
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21incher

I got the 60" and it is great for just about everything, but in the future I plan on adding a mill special for when I need extra help turning the other end of a can't on the mill and holding the cant square while clamping the dogs.. Don't worry about the cold, the 60 has a nice rubber grip that insulates the aluminum.
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red

So the question should be
How many of each length?
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backwoods sawyer

 :P I am with noah they should all come in pairs ;D

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Brad_bb

My problem is usually I am by myself.  I'll try out the 60" and then decide on a second one.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

GAB

Mr. Drouin Sir:
You said "Try putting a piece of slab in the middle of the log and roll the log on top of it so both ends are up off the ground and you can turn the log with one finger "
That works great however since logs are frustrums of cones, the weight center is not generally in the center of the log length wise.  I need a lot more practice before I can turn them with one finger.
Gerald
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