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Title: fuel prices
Post by: lumbertick on February 22, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
what are your fuel prices around you?
Here in mid michigan for on road its anywhere from $4.19-$4.49
For off road its $3.90-$4.05
Sure does put a hurtin on the profits!
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on February 22, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Filled the tank with offroad diesel yesterday for 3.49 a gallon. Road fuel was 4.07 I think.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Ed_K on February 22, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Off road $3.56 on road $4.39
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Woodboogah on February 22, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
I only use on road and it has come down some to 4.07 from 4.19.  Still to expensive.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Birchwood Logging on February 22, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
How much do you guys usually spend a day in fuel diesel here is $3.89 a gallon for on road I buy $100 worth of diesel for the equipment and $80 diesel for my log truck $180 a day for fuel for some that's not much but for me thats quite a bit
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: DaleK on February 22, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
Onroad here is $6 and change.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: 1270d on February 22, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on February 22, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Filled the tank with offroad diesel yesterday for 3.49 a gallon. Road fuel was 4.07 I think.

you probably cheating and buying on the reservation  ;D  I know I do when we work up that way
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Firewoodjoe on February 22, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
The big man himself said we spent $18,000 December in off road. Ouch. 2-648s, 1-slasher and two saw heads. And here and there for extra work
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: cutter88 on February 22, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Huntsville Ontario was $1.35 per litre off road and $1.44 for on road
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Woodboogah on February 22, 2014, 06:30:26 PM
I am burning 4-8 gallons in the machine per day and put about 200$ in my pick up per week
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: thenorthman on February 22, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
3.99 for clear in town, cheaper if you go towards civilization, or Down Below...  Think dyed was 3.48 or some such, I don't pay much attention, it all needs to be payed for somehow, no sense in worrying about it.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: turbo885 on February 22, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
on road 450-470  western pa
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: lumbertick on February 22, 2014, 07:04:47 PM
we burn $200 a day in the woods and log truck burns $400 adds up quick
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Corley5 on February 22, 2014, 07:09:11 PM
$4.03 for off road up here.  We go through $100.00 - $150.00 a day depending on what's running.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: goose63 on February 22, 2014, 07:20:40 PM
 I have a f250 with 7.3 diesel 4.45 here at go 40 miles south 3.68 at Summit S D I have a 150 gallon tank in the back of my pickup saves me 115 bucks you bet I drive the 80 miles pickup gets 18 mpg at 60
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: SliverPicker on February 22, 2014, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: 1270d on February 22, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on February 22, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Filled the tank with offroad diesel yesterday for 3.49 a gallon. Road fuel was 4.07 I think.

you probably cheating and buying on the reservation  ;D  I know I do when we work up that way

Last time I went through there the Res. wasn't much less than L'anse.  It used to be alot less.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Southside on February 22, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
$3.41 red fuel, $3.73 clear last night when I got my fuel for the week.  That has gone up since a week ago when it was $3.37 / $3.67.  Go 10 miles up the road and on road is $3.89.  My fuel cost averages 10% of my gross income. 
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: macpower on February 22, 2014, 07:47:07 PM
$3.999 off road and 4.299 taxed, locally. I think we get raped here. It's all super low sulfur and I think its a summer blend, the dang stuff gels at 20 degrees so I have to run an additive.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: treechopper40 on February 22, 2014, 07:50:44 PM
I pay $4.66 a gallon for on road fuel and only use 15-20 gallons a week in the skidder and log loader so I can operate all week on less than a $100 in fuel
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 22, 2014, 08:07:08 PM
I saw $4.19 this week, down from $4.29. Off road delivered to the farm is up over $3.80 now, I think.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: redprospector on February 22, 2014, 08:59:27 PM
Finally! I am the lucky one.  :D
I bought a tank Tuesday at $3.65 a gallon.
The high place here in town is $3.99 a gallon.
I guess New Mexico added some taxes on the off road, it's only about .13 a gallon cheaper than on road. It's not worth the paperwork they want to use it.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: PAFaller on February 22, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
PA just added more taxes to our fuel, but they claim its not a tax, its a user surcharge, same darn thing with a different label. On road in running 4.45 - 4.50, off road was down around 3.85-3.90 but today when I stopped it was up to 4.06. Thankfully I am close to home, and with it warming up a bit I shut the machine down and cut. I pulled 5 load last week on 30 gallons of fuel, so no complaints. That will change as things break up, working in the mud seems to really push the machine. That 16 inches of snow we had on the ground packed down to a good 5-6 inches of slick icy stuff on my trails and the wood slides like butter.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: coxy on February 22, 2014, 09:44:10 PM
I seen it today 4.62.9 this is bogus  to bad we all could not shut down for 2-3 days I think that would change thins a bit :)
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on February 22, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: 1270d on February 22, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: chevytaHOE5674 on February 22, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
Filled the tank with offroad diesel yesterday for 3.49 a gallon. Road fuel was 4.07 I think.

you probably cheating and buying on the reservation  ;D  I know I do when we work up that way

Nope that is the price here in Ontonagon. I'm sure The Pines on the res is cheaper yet.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: sawguy21 on February 22, 2014, 10:21:12 PM
$1.52.9/liter here for diesel today, highest I have ever seen. OWWWW. Don\t have much choice. either suck it up or stay home.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Maine logger88 on February 22, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
4.29 for on road here last I checked but I try not to look its too depressing
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: timberlinetree on February 23, 2014, 04:52:00 AM
Way to much! Our played in full every month fuel card hit it's limit and stopped working! >:(
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 23, 2014, 05:56:19 AM
Well, since we aren't building more capacity, this is the price for "not in my back yard". Plus the tax man with his hand in the wallet. I think their are still hidden taxes in those off road prices. Every step to deliver it to the tanks has a value added tax: refining, wholesale margin, retail margin... before you even get to delivery. Seems to me on the farm there was only 3 - 5 cents difference. :-\

You take this week's benchmark price for low sulfur diesel, it's $0.976/10/litre, by the time I pump it into my tank from the gas station pump it's $1.54/litre and I'm near a refinery, 3 hrs away in St John.

When the latest premier got elected he said no new tax hike on earnings, but he got more through a 2.5 cent a litre fuel tax hike. We got scammed big time. ::) A 2 cent HST hike is cheaper in my math. And this year he's getting that income tax hike he put off. The poorest province, pays the most tax. Doesn't that mean we need to downsize the government, too many services, not enough money. Either that or civil service pensions are too high. That's been another battle.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Ken on February 23, 2014, 06:22:48 AM
On road diesel runs about $1.52/litre ($5.75/us gal) right now.  Off road is usually about 20+ cents cheaper/litre but the paperwork to get a permit is a pain.  I burn approximately 1500 litres a week cutting wood so the permit is necessary. 
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: timberlinetree on February 23, 2014, 06:23:15 AM
Are the oil companies making money?I'm not  >:(
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: HiTech on February 23, 2014, 06:27:22 AM
$4.49 here yesterday for on road, haven't bought off road in awhile...need to do that this week. The price of fuel and tires makes it hard to make a nickel.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: RayMO on February 23, 2014, 10:49:40 AM
$3.69 here for on-road fuel.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: timberking on February 24, 2014, 02:37:33 PM
$3.51 for off road and $3.79 for taxed.  About to go up.  Unleaded is $3.15.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Upnorth on February 24, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
$5.86 a gallon here in NW
Ontario for clear, not much better for coloured. Worst it's ever been.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: 36 coupe on March 06, 2014, 07:31:39 AM
We are getting ripped off.Saw a bit that said a Canadian oil co is producing 300000 barrels a day and selling at 70 bucks a barrel .They are pushing for a pipeline that would get a 100 bucks a barrel selling to Asia.This high priced fuel will destroy our economy.Banks are robbing savings depositors by paying 1 tenth of 1 percent interest.Look at all the new banks being built.How long can this go on?
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 06, 2014, 12:10:00 PM
Low interest rates to borrow money is a fraud statement. The borrowing is on credit cards at 20-30%. I think the 18% to borrow back in the 80's is far better, don't you? I can remember borrowing $3000 was a big deal, they usually wouldn't do it. But racking it up on a credit card was fine. More fraudulent methods to serve greed. May not be fraud, but anyone can see the wizard behind the curtain on that deal. ;)

As consumers of the $70 oil, we don't see it because the government sets prices up here based on NY harbour price, which is that $100 world price.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: BargeMonkey on March 06, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
 And thats the truth. Ive been in the oil industry since I got out of high school. 75% of fuel used in Boston and north comes from Everett refinery in Canada. Theres so much crude work in the gulf right now they cant build boats fast enough. Licensed captains mates engineers with experience are getting 8-1200 A DAY...  im on my 3rd run of gas in a week, feeding the I-95 monster.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: goose63 on March 06, 2014, 05:18:18 PM
And we don't have a oil man in office who are we blame now that George B is out of D C ?
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: redprospector on March 06, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: goose63 on March 06, 2014, 05:18:18 PM
And we don't have a oil man in office who are we blame now that George B is out of D C ?
Hahaha. Yeah, Diesel was what? Around $2 bucks when the current "person" took office.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: ffpup on March 06, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
Off road 3.54 On road 3.79-3.89. Only thing I say when I fill everything up is "I'm glad I got the money to fill it up" Cause if I didn't it would mean I wasn't working. There really isn't any reason for it to be that high though.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: timberlinetree on March 07, 2014, 04:25:26 AM
It's getting out of control >:(.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: giant splinter on March 07, 2014, 09:01:28 AM
I'm traveling north on the west coast, in Bakersfield Ca. I found a Shell station that was $4.69 ( this area is gaged with oil wells ) less than six miles from that Shell station is a Chevron where I paid $3.69 ............ thanks to a phone app known as "gas buddy" ,  it works for diesel also.

That is for low end regular grade gasoline ....... one buck a gallon and within six miles of each other in an oil producing area not far from a refinery.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Woodboogah on March 07, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
I use gas buddy regularly and it  works well.  On another note NH has proposed a fuel tax I believe is 12 cents over 3 or 4 Yeats.  The gov. Said she would sign it if it hits her desk. Its supposed to be for rd repair, I think it will go to a big project in the state (I93) thats is said to depleted its funds already.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: HiTech on March 08, 2014, 07:55:17 AM
bought off road yesterday. $3.89 per gallon. Kerosene for the salamander was $4.39 per gallon. Didn't dare look at road diesel. lol 
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: 36 coupe on March 08, 2014, 08:05:53 AM
Quote from: cutter88 on February 22, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Huntsville Ontario was $1.35 per litre off road and $1.44 for on road
Canada is producing a lot of oil.So much that they are working on a pipeline to Texas.US oil will be added  to the line and sold to china and other countries.Not one drop will be used in Canada or the US.Look up Keystone pipe line.Read it and weep.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 08, 2014, 08:15:14 AM
There's another one coming east to the refinery in St John, 1 million barrels a day.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: Woodboogah on March 08, 2014, 08:46:34 AM
Just passed fuel station next town over and on rd is down to 3.99.  Seems like it spikes comes down a little but never back to before the spike.  Consumers are happy it came down.  Then the cycle starts over.  Just like everything else send it over seas.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: RKH Logging on March 08, 2014, 09:39:44 AM
clear: 144.9/L... dyed:132.9 northern ontario.
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: BargeMonkey on March 08, 2014, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: 36 coupe on March 08, 2014, 08:05:53 AM
Quote from: cutter88 on February 22, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Huntsville Ontario was $1.35 per litre off road and $1.44 for on road
Canada is producing a lot of oil.So much that they are working on a pipeline to Texas.US oil will be added  to the line and sold to china and other countries.Not one drop will be used in Canada or the US.Look up Keystone pipe line.Read it and weep.

How much money do you think the tug/barge and rail companies stand to lose if they put that pipeline in ?  Anyone seen all the crude moving out of Albany NY lately..? I was on a 125k barrel vessel filling in a few months ago, one unit left, we pulled in, 9 hours later the big unit pulled in behind us. Would you wanna lose millions in work to a pipeline..?   :D
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: goose63 on March 08, 2014, 03:25:31 PM
road fuel 3.79 last week in Summet S D last week
Title: Re: fuel prices
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 08, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
The refineries care less about how it gets there, as long as they can get it the cheapest way. When enough trains blow up towns, they will seal their own coffin shut on the matter. The trains have pretty much abandoned many miles out this way, so we aren't losing much. And about to abandon even more. Some of the line is already run by a forest company anyway to move wood, both in NB and Maine.