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Title: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: fstedy on January 31, 2007, 03:10:44 PM
Is it possible to over insulate a DH kiln cahmber. EBAC is recommending no more than
R11 for my chamber size 520 sq. ft. But it seems to me R30 would be better. I'm not located in an area where it gets super cold ( New Jersey by Atlantic City ) or super warm. Any suggestions? R 30 just maks sense to me even if I have to vent it occasionally for over temp conditions.  The chamber is 8'x8'x16' with 2" blue foam under a plywood deck. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: BBTom on January 31, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
I am no kiln design expert, but I cannot think of any reason not to insulate as much as possible, if you have venting.  I especially want a kiln to be air tight, even if it would not be insulated a bunch.  I say go for it.
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: Den Socling on January 31, 2007, 05:52:43 PM
I put a control system on a relatively large Nyle one time that had lots of insulation. It needed a powered vent to prevent overheating.
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: Don_Lewis on January 31, 2007, 07:35:25 PM
I have seen that in EBAC literature and it doesn't make any sense. If you have a poorly insulated wall, you will have water condensing on it and the kiln will be ruined by that. Someone told me once that they don't supply vents and when the kiln was overheating, they should pull the insulation off one wall. That was second hand and seems too far out to be believable.
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: oakiemac on January 31, 2007, 08:17:18 PM
Nothing is too far out to be unbelieveable with EBAC. I own one and have nothing good to say about it.

Anyway, my kiln chamber is sprayed with 4" of foam and it seems to over temp real quick. I usually have to vent it even in the winter. I don't think you can over insulate but just be prepared to do a little venting even in the winter.
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: Den Socling on January 31, 2007, 09:13:23 PM
I should add that oakiemac's comments about EBAC are his own but are substantiated by similar remarks by EBAC owners at other web forums, as well as this one.

I'd hate to be Den EBAC!  :-[
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: fstedy on February 01, 2007, 04:50:52 AM
Well I'm going for it R 30 walls and ceiling and 2" blue foam under the floor. Don there was mention in the manual about removing insulation in the summer. Venting seems more practical. I can see this will be a learing experience!!!
Title: Re: Over insulated kiln chamber
Post by: TexasTimbers on February 02, 2007, 09:46:52 AM
I guess we can learn together. I built mine out of R30 foam walls. I am coating mine with aluminum kiln coating from Texas Refinery Corp.