Detroit engine stand ??? any ideas

Tramp Bushler · May 18, 2012, 01:34:41 AM

Well it seems there is a problem with the 353 that I got for the 330 TJ . I was baring it over and it made a clunking noise then fetched up and wouldn't turn over that way any further :-[

So I need an engine stand for a 53 series Detroit .
Any one got any ideas what an engine stand for a Detroit looks like .????

treefarmer87 · May 18, 2012, 10:14:04 AM

there was a homemade one of steel attached to the motor mounts on the motor i got put in the c6

Tramp Bushler · May 18, 2012, 03:20:57 PM

I have some steel . I figure I'll have to weld something up .

Autocar · May 18, 2012, 06:29:21 PM

I made mine [ FRONT of detroit ] with a four foot buy six by ten I beam.and the rear I used a six by ten there also. To make everything level I used a four by four and drilled the I beam and the oak four by four and went though the front mount holes. And the back I welded quarter inch thick angle and welded them to the I beam and bolteded them to the rear mounts. PS mine was a 4/53 good luck Bill .

Tramp Bushler · May 18, 2012, 07:25:15 PM

Ok . Thanks . I have some steel , not alot . I think I'll use cutting edges from graders for the feet .

dixmont · May 18, 2012, 09:18:49 PM

before you pull engine apart have you pulled the blower?lots of time the blower froze and splits a rotor good luck

Tramp Bushler · May 18, 2012, 09:37:39 PM

I gotta admit . I really don't know anything about them . Other than how to run them and how to work them . But I'm almost looking foreward to taking a Small Detroit apart , rebuilding it and running it . . Thats why I decided to stick with 2 stroke Jimmys . If I can learn them , so I understand them then I can do the work I need to do with them . Which is what its all about with me . . I have both a 353 and a 453 that needs rebuilding . And maybe the 371 thats in my loader . Tho it runs good now . .
Anyone know how much it is to rebuild a starter for a 71 series .??

Tramp Bushler · May 18, 2012, 09:38:58 PM

Anyone know if theres an idiots manuual for rebuilding Detroits ??

sandhills · May 18, 2012, 09:55:06 PM

Yes there is, but can't remember who published it, an old mechanic that is now retired let me borrow his a few years ago and I still wish I'd offer to buy it. As someone else on this forum stated, "there are two types of diesel mechanics, those that work on Detroits and those that work on everything else". they are actually a pretty simple and forgiving engine when it comes to rebuilding but I would have to have the book back for even coming close to setting the racks, if you run into trouble give me a pm and I'll see if I can track down a book for you.

shelbycharger400 · May 18, 2012, 09:58:51 PM

whats wrong with the starter? benex bad? bring it in, they (big company greed) has made it so you cant get parts anymore on your own. most big motor starter bendexes are around 65, brushes and bushings combined i think were 12 to 15.
90 percent of the time, you just need to clean up the contacts ,sometimes you need a set of brushes, sometimes just a set of bushings.

Rooster · May 18, 2012, 10:28:09 PM

A couple of Forums that specialize in Detroit 2 Stroke:

http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/forum.php

http://pub40.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3407651264&frmid=150&msgid=0

I am learning as I go, so that I can build a Rat Rod with a 4-53 Detroit..."Screamin' Detroit"!!

Rooster

kiko · May 19, 2012, 01:33:06 AM

I have never needed an engine stand for any engine I ever built. Remove head and stand engine on its end and build bottom end. Make it back horizontal and finish it up. You only need something to lift the engine and some wood blocks. If crank needs to be removed roll it one more time.

Tramp Bushler · May 19, 2012, 06:17:22 AM

Thanks Rooster . I signed up on the cummins site . They seem to have a pretty good Detroit forum .. Kiko . The problem is . I don't know what I can and what I can't do or what I should or shouldn't .. Not being a mechanic I don't have a knack for understanding them . So I kindof need to learn them methodically . Read ( slow brain ) . Plus I don't have a shop to work in.

kiko · May 19, 2012, 08:02:16 AM

You certantly can,t build the engine in the dirt. If the oil pan is removable you might consider an in-frame. As mentioned earlier I would check the blower. Also check the oil filter for metal contaminates.

Tramp Bushler · May 19, 2012, 07:09:19 PM

Ok . Thanks . I've been looking at the steel that I have and I've got an idea brewing in my head . Need to ruminate on it some more .

bushmechanic · May 20, 2012, 05:47:54 PM

I'm with kiko on the stand idea,I never use one I just have a table built about three feet high and three feet by five feet top on it.If you haven't worked on them before then you should really get a manual,I got a cd on ebay once for about 20 bucks.

Tramp Bushler · May 20, 2012, 07:42:05 PM

Yes . I have to get the manuals . A big , skookum table would prolly work . You guys must think I'm a real dunce ( probably am) . I counted up and I have 4 , 2 stroke Detroits . Only 1 that runs . Can't afford to take one in and get it rebuilt so I better learn how to do it myself .

This gypo loggin is sure different than being a west coast timber faller . .q