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2 Part ?? Siding attachment for mill & Is pine a good choice for house siding?

Started by Piston, May 18, 2015, 11:00:45 AM

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Doug Wis

   We sided a new house with board on board white  pine . of coarse that is put on vertically not horizontally like you are planning. We used solid color latex stain and like  Bandmiller  recomended we painted the back side before we put it up. actually we painted  both sides before we put it up. Several people had recommended that we do it that way. Acts like a built in vapor barrier. paint has held real well. Got some knots bleeding thru, but that just adds to the character of the job. If you would decide to buy rather than use your own, I would recommend Smart siding. Not sure if that the correct name, but it looks like chipboard from the back and has wood grain embossed on the outside. But if you have trees and a mill why would you go to the lumberyard?
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Dad2FourWI

Hey Ox,

QuoteWhy is this, Dad2?

The OneTime stain is light "sensitive" for curing - so we actually stained the boards in the barn (out of the sun) and then washed very carefully each time... no problem, the skin washed right up.

But... if you allow the stain on your skin to contact the sunlight (and cure) then it could burn and basically you are stuck with a "nice tan" for quite a while!!!  :D :D

I _really_ like the product!!!! I would encourage any/all to look at OneTime for staining!

-Dad2FourWI
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Piston

Ironically, a friend of mine was just telling me about that "LP Smartsiding" yesterday when I was discussing this same topic with him.  I don't know a whole lot anything about it, but I'll look more into it as an option.
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Ox

Dad2 - Thanks for the reply and info.  Sometimes it boggles my mind what mankind is capable of, invention-wise.
Maybe you just found your own niche!
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Planman1954

I used SYP on my barn about 5 years ago. I painted it with exterior flat paint. It still looks good today:

 
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Piston

Quote from: Planman1954 on May 20, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
I used SYP on my barn about 5 years ago. I painted it with exterior flat paint. It still looks good today:

Looks good Planman, any pictures of it now?
-Matt
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porcupine

Quote from: Piston on May 19, 2015, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: porcupine on May 19, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
You make cant's from logs. Remove cant place elsewhere. Set up attachment, Cant placed back on SLR attachment. Make a cut, swing SLR lever, cut......flip can't over. Cut .......

Porcupine, thanks for the comments!  I have a question, when you say "flip cant over" do you mean just rotate it a slight amount, to put the taper in/out?  Or do you actually have to flip the cant over each time?????
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After a series of cuts you will reach the pith at that time 180 degree rotation is necessary.



Dave, thanks for the info, I will go 100% heartwood based on your experience/knowledge.  I have some large pines with a lot of heartwood, and although I absolutely hate to mill them into tiny little boards for siding, I'll do so and get a lot of boards out of each log. 
(I can't stand sawing up a perfectly straight large diameter pine into something other than a giant beam) :D
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barbender

I've used the WM lapsider jig, and I also made an "ArkyResaw" a couple years back. Hands down I would use the Arky jig again over the lapsider. To use the Arky jig, you just saw out your material, say 1"x8" (I sawed mine 5/4, that was too thick unless you are planing it first). Then you can just dead stack it, or sticker it to let it dry. Once you have all your material sawn, you attach your Arky jig, set the bevel angle, and resaw all the boards in half. You would have way higher production using the Arky jig, and no lifting cants around. It's fast to feed boards through, one person pushing, one pulling out the other end.
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barbender

BTW, you chain your head in place and feed the boards through the Arky jig.
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pineywoods

The tilt and shim technique as per plannman works well. But I will say, it helps to have hydraulics to tilt and un-tilt the cant. I have put siding on 2 buildings using siding cut from pine logs using this method.
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Planman1954

Ok, I just went outside and snapped a picture of the barn. I hope the pic shows right side up. The last one I put on here was upside down since I took it with my iPad!


 
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tmarch

That's too fancy for a barn, cottage is more like it.  I like the decoration (can't spell cupulo) on top a lot. 8)
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Ga Mtn Man

Other than the thickness issue of having two full-thickness boards lapped over each other, what is the advantage of beveled siding vs. flat?
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Ox

You can really stretch the amount of siding available from the same log.  I liken it to taking a 1.5" x 6" board and milling it down the length of the board, diagonally through two opposite corners, making 2 long, skinny triangles as you look directly at the end of the board.  Your dimensions may vary.  ;)
I guess you could say you can double the amount of siding this way vs. straight boards.
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Larry

If beveled siding is made with a rabbet on the thick edge it lays flat on the structure. It also adds some shear strength.

Flat siding and beveled siding without a rabbet leave a gap behind.  Little strength is added.  It also cups easier. 

All three methods cost and look different.  As always a balancing act as to which is the best product.  One may be the perfect solution for a garden shed and not so good on a different structure.
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Piston

-Matt
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