I am very curious about this. Any input? Free electricity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvw-ITsvzk
there is no such thing as free power. all we humans can do is exploit different sources but it will never be free. this is a law of nature.
I dont like your law...... People shut me down on this before they even look and say the same. Did you watch the Video? OK then it is not free. .... It will cost at least $50 in materials. Only 3 watts or some little number rite? Yup. That could keep a camper in the woods full of power...... Like a free trickle charger.... The model is only 3 ft. Make it 6 or 8 ft and have double the juice. This machine harvests the same power that makes the needle spin on your compass. It is all here and cant be regulated is why it is not being used. OIL. There is pyramids all over this earth and they were for electricity. Not tombs like our leaders tell us. Wake up earth. The answers have been here all along. Im going to change the world with this old tech. Also know that that all the pyramids are on the same frequency wave line. It runs through the upper peninsula of michigan where I moved to. I have lost more than 40 pounds since the move and feel the electricity all around. Like positive electrons all over. By the Mayan pyramids, people get nauseous because of the amount of energy...... So do you work for the government, spreading a bunch of that wont work........... Pyramids dude!!!!!!!! Oh ya. Tombs...... NOT.... I hate consuming oil... wake up world and demand the power be free. Ok, Cheap, People will have to build it and they dont work for free. Build this and tell me if it is a hoax.
You asked for input and he gave it respectfully.
QuotePeople will have to build it and they dont work for free. Build this and tell me if it is a hoax.
I pledge publicly to give you $500 if you build a working model and bring it to the Pig Roast in Harrison MI in 2016 for scrutiny.I would be glad to pay you in full.
This may be the deciding factor in putting my land up for sale in the U.P.
I do want to build. It feel it is a very true form of electricity. This is the same energy that crosses witching wands.... It is power, but not much. From the mineral deposits or moving water down below. This creates this small amount of energy and this pyramid video looks like a way to collect it. People are so quick to laugh a this concept. I will build one this winter and I would love to come to a pig roast. I appreciate the encouragement. Oh. one more thing. The Paulding light that is not cars on a road like some say. May be an electromagnetic anomaly from this wave that all the pyramids are on. just a theory.
Quote from: Paul_H on October 24, 2015, 11:10:08 AM
I pledge publicly to give you $500 if you build a working model and bring it to the Pig Roast in Harrison MI in 2016 for scrutiny.I would be glad to pay you in full.
That's $500 cdn ;)
And where did you move from to get to the U.P. to become more informed than those that have lived there their entire life? Apparently you didn't hear that the Paulding lights had been explained and source proven in 2010 by Michigan Tech. A paranormal investigation team came there clear back in the 1980s and showed it was headlights. But, heck, it's almost Halloween, lets go paranormal again just for old times sake.
I remember my dad having a copy of Flanagan's book clear back in the 1970's. As a kid, I was gullible enough to build a pyramid to try and keep my Dad's razor sharp. Fail.
And remember, you asked us for the input.
:D I can't help myself----
3 watts of power converted to horsepower would be .0040322HP or about enough to power a very small ants motorbike, pismire perhaps .
While there are magnetic lines of force going pole to pole I doubt there's any way to harness any power .If there is it would take a mighty large amplification device or a flux capacitor the size of Texas .Something that large could be dangerous thus the linked device might save someones life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat --have fun with it now, I have ;)
Correct. i did ask for advise. I have watched the michigan tech episode on line about the paulding light. It has been said that it has not been seen since 2007. I have seen it in 2003 with more than 10 people. It was truly crazy.
I was living in Texas for work for 5 yrs, Wisconsin before that, Arizona, Florida. Most time in Wisconsin. I was born in WI and traveled much for work and experience. Paul, I did not claim to be more informed than anyone. I learn stuff from people everyday. I dont feel it has been debunked. Al. I know it is small 3 watts or whatever. Small yes. Make one 9 ft that makes 10 watts. Get an off the grid house with green house and keep batteries charged. Maybe make hundred foot pyramids and put them along roads to power cars. People have said the old pyramids could of made tremendous power for many cities. I dont think they were rock piles piled neatly. They were all energy collectors. Once again it is a theory. I find it interesting and will try to make a working model. I am not an electrician.
I have hope for a sweet energy source. I have been told it is not likely but stay optimistic. There is some really good videos on youtube about pyramids.
It won't work anymore. Space aliens sucked the strongest portion of the magnetic field out of the earths atmosphere to recharge their spaceships. The Earth was strongly magnetic a long time ago and this is why it has so much water, after extraterrestials stole our magnetism gravity has held the water in place. Most people don't know water is so magnetic because it is clear and you cannot see it's alignment. The magnetism of water led to the Russians building their magnetohydrodynamic drive, you may know this as "the caterpillar" in the movie 'The Hunt for Red October'. They say it doesn't work but you cannot trust the Russians either.
The Pyramids were built to harvest the earths electromagnetic force field and beam it up though an opening in the top of the pyramid after the precisely aligned stones changed the magnetism into microwaves. This explains why they have not returned because there is no fuel left and also explains why the space ship crashed at Roswell NM- it ran out of fuel and couldn't get more.
I don't remember where I heard this I'm pretty sure we were drinking at the time.
That sounds perfectly logical to me.
OK. I understand........ My bad...... Forget it Please. I agree..... We have already figured out everything on earth.....It is foolish of me.... wow Not used to forums. I guess I asked for this when I asked for input.... Now it is a joke. LOL. I will build one... good luck! have a great day. By the way, At one time everyone thought the Earth was flat........ Jeff, you are a common negative Nancy at best......
Jasen, if you have not already read them, check out the books Stranger Than Science by Frank Edwards. I think you would really enjoy them.
Quote from: Jasen logger on October 25, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Jeff, you are a common negative Nancy at best......
I'm probably much more than that but you might never get to know unless you tread lightly. I suggest you do so. You drew my attention when your second post in this topic took on an attitude. Not the topic. Most of us can discuss any topic until attitude starts to writhe its little head. I recognize attitude and I know what to do about it. Sometimes drawing it out is the best thing so everyone knows what we are dealing with. Your posts are making it very clear very quickly.
(This may be the deciding factor in putting my land up for sale in the U.P.) Maybe I did not understand the meaning of your comment. To make jokes on someone for an idea. Imply it is time to move because I came? I am not upset. no foul language. I just feel SARCASM is counter productive to new thought or ideas or valuable input. I will not discourage any idea. Minds all work different for everyone. Jeff, I guess you got me. My attitude came out. i apologize if i offended any one. I cease to comment any further.
TY One With Wood. will look into.
On a personal note I do worry that some good ideas get lost because we have become so jaded that we refuse to believe a good thing when we see it. I did not watch the video that was linked so I am not commenting directly on it.
One of my favorite quotes is " All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer "
I have passed on this quote before and I think it speaks to the general worry I have rather than the content of the video. Effectively my worry is that we don't get to stage three because stage one and two are too pervasive.
I think that the people tend to get nauseated on the Mayan pyramids because of the altitude. Where are the electric wires coming from them pyramids . The people of S. america are not stupid . if they could get free power out of the pyramids they would be doing it now.
I see your point. really not much evidence to support this idea. Inventor Nikola Tesla claims that wires are not needed to transfer electricity. The more I researched Tesla, I could not believe the stuff he was doing with electricity. I asked myself how did I not know about his work through school or some where. Maybe electricity in the air can not be measured and sold. I am no expert on any of these things. It is well known of missing components on many pyramids. I think that if this energy would be real it would unravel all of our systems. I feel it would not be unreasonable to think the components and or methods to do this could be withheld to create a monetary system. Many feel any thought about these rock tombs to be a waste of time. Why were these structures made so perfectly in line all over the planet? It is a known fact that we could not get them like this with our current technology. They say they are lined up to the atom. Why would anyone go thru this to put a dead body inside is why I feel there is more to it. Maybe not.
This is IMO at least one of the missing pieces
https://icecube.wisc.edu/info/neutrinos
Good read. may be a missing piece.
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Tin foil hat
Quote from: Jasen logger on November 07, 2015, 04:03:22 PM
... They say they are lined up to the atom. ...
Ah, but who's "they"?
i have been told that they can be harnessed by driving steel peg in the ground under a high tension transmission line AND adding horizontal rods lying on the ground. i guess measurements are critical and a disconnect system to isolate the 2 "field" when the activity gets too aggressive.
I have had no time to do the research but I have a friend that is messing with it all the time. he says the pyramids appearto have all the infrastructure to produce control and distribute the power without cables but he has yet to figure out the inner workings of it. i have watched hime set up a small collector and it is uncanny how well it works and how fast it ramps up to where it has to be shut down.
There is no doubt in my mind that this has, can and will again some day work.
The question I have is this: Did this technology and the many others that Egypt had AND were playing ultimately destroy them ?? AND other societies tha wee as advanced that likely were working wit hOR against them. Has the been a holocast that had nothing to do with uranium that we have not even found a hint of because it so totally annihilated every thing that we cant eve know it existed.
it is an interesting topic and in my opinion a dangerous one.
AND we will persue till it does us in again.
Quotei have been told that they can be harnessed by driving steel peg in the ground under a high tension transmission line AND adding horizontal rods lying on the ground. i guess measurements are critical and a disconnect system to isolate the 2 "field" when the activity gets too aggressive.
That will produce electrical power.
But what you are actually doing is stealing power from the transmission company by creating a loosely air coupled transformer with their line as primary winding. Every watt generated in your secondary coil will be lost from the main transmission line. So no power is magically being generated, it's just being siphoned off from some other source.
Obviously this is frowned upon by the power company.
yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines. I dont know much about it but i know some one who does I'll see if i can get him to join the forum and contribute here. He is a physicist.
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Sounds like Tesla's electric car that pulled energy from the "ether".
There are a lot of things that we don't understand, but I'm pretty sure that there is no free lunch.
I was curious about the pyramids "lining up". I guess it's true, but only if you reject all the pyramids that aren't on the particular line you choose. There's about 3 dozen sites of pyramids of various types on the earth. To include all of them your "line" would be a "band" about 3000 miles wide.
Tesla was a pioneer when it came to alternating current. He believed that it
ought to be possible to transmit electrical energy through the air over long distances. However, there is no evidence that he actually did it, or even figured out how to do it. The only claim that he managed it was by his biographer; Tesla himself never made the claim.
You can transmit electricity over very short distances: some electric toothbrushes and cell phone chargers use the principle. However, the amount that you can successfully transmit varies as the inverse of the 6th power of the distance you want to cover. So if you have an apparatus that can transmit a certain amount of electricity for a distance of 1 foot, you would only be able to transmit 1/2
6 = 1/64 (about 5%) as much energy over a 2 foot distance. Obviously not very efficient.
My high school physics teacher built a Tesla coil (it's not difficult) and we did a few experiments with it. A student could hold one end of a fluorescent tube a few inches away from the top of the coil and it would actually light up. It turns out that this was a lot more dangerous than we thought.
Quote from: Bandmill Bandit on November 08, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines...
Which violates the first law of thermodynamics. If it were possible, you could easily build a perpetual motion machine.
Ug. The problem with harvesting the earths magnetism is called grade. There is an enormous amount of energy out there but it is low grade. Maybe a better explanation is there is the same amount of energy in a pound of uranium as there is in a pound of banana peels we just do not know how to capture useful energy from banana peels.
When "Back to the Future" featured 'Mr. Fusion' this was the idea - Energy from banana peels and old cigar butts.
Same could be said of wood ashes having the same pound per pound energy content as un-burned wood.
The old conspiracy of oil companies etc. has been around forever. What proponents of this idea miss is that laws could be enacted to make it illegal to produce your own 'free' power, just like alcohol, marijuana, and other substances.
re: pyramid alignment. Most of the ones I have read about are aligned almost exactly to true north (not magnetic north), and are in the northern hemisphere where the north star (polaris) is visible. Almost all the early civilizations were acutely aware of most heavenly bodies, and usually worshiped one or more. All that's required for north alingnment is a long piece of string and a view of polaris, the only visible star which appears to never move. Most of the way out theories involving pyramids can be explained with just a fundamental knowledge of physics, but there are a few un-answered questions. Like how did them Egyptians move them 20 ton blocks of granite from 100 miles away and get them stacked so neatly ? Everybody knows they used anti-gravity and tractor beams, right ? ::)
Quote from: r.man on October 26, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
On a personal note I do worry that some good ideas get lost because we have become so jaded that we refuse to believe a good thing when we see it. I did not watch the video that was linked so I am not commenting directly on it.
One of my favorite quotes is " All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer "
That "favorite quote" is not a truth so there is nothing to worry about there. It should have stated that "all
ideas pass thru many stages." In the end if the idea does not stand up to all the scrutiny it receives, it must not be the truth as the original quote claims.
In the scientific community the process starts with an idea being published. Next the idea will be reviewed by others and some will try to duplicate the idea. If it cannot be verified and duplicated, yes the idea will not be accepted as a truth and will be subject to ridicule, many times viciously.
So the OP has presented an
idea, not a truth and Paul has challenged him to provide the proof. We can wait and see if he can show his idea as being the truth.
I suppose in theory and conjecture a person could build a gigantic coil and harness the magnetic lines of flux transmitting pole to pole .However it would be the size of Texas and there isn't enough copper the world for that to happen.
What happens though if there was .Would it tilt the earth on it's axis. Would it reverse the earths rotation and fling us all into outer space ? Inquiring minds beg to know .Now with out further ado I'm off to make another tin foil hat . ---this could be more fun than the oil wars ---- 8)
The magnetic flux would have to move relative to the coil ;D.
Quote from: pineywoods on November 10, 2015, 11:23:06 AM
re: pyramid alignment. Most of the ones I have read about are aligned almost exactly to true north (not magnetic north), and are in the northern hemisphere where the north star (polaris) is visible. Almost all the early civilizations were acutely aware of most heavenly bodies, and usually worshiped one or more. All that's required for north alingnment is a long piece of string and a view of polaris, the only visible star which appears to never move. Most of the way out theories involving pyramids can be explained with just a fundamental knowledge of physics, but there are a few un-answered questions. Like how did them Egyptians move them 20 ton blocks of granite from 100 miles away and get them stacked so neatly ? Everybody knows they used anti-gravity and tractor beams, right ? ::)
As for moving blocks this guy has an answer and better yet proves it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7q20VzwVs
As to why, I would never underestimate the narcissistic ego of rulers. Hitler actually BELIEVED he would someday rule the world. He could have built a whole lot of really big stuff if he wasn't so busy destroying countries and killing people who failed to agree with his grand vision.
Quote from: Brucer on December 03, 2015, 02:49:19 AM
The magnetic flux would have to move relative to the coil ;D.
Which relative ,cousin Elmer twice removed?
It's a bad idea ,might shift the north pole to Texas .Soon to follow polar bears in Galveston and steers in Antarctica .Not good .--wonder if I can make a tin foil Stetsen
It's a closed cycle chemical laser- creating a type of energy we don't understand with elements that are no longer around. Allowed people to work 24 hrs a day on a special electrified water diet.
http://earthmilkancientenergy.com/ch13.htm
We are doomed...
:D :D :D
Al, i think if you employed a couple of big flux capacitors hooked in series then parallell, you might just get it to work
Quote from: Brucer on November 10, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Quote from: Bandmill Bandit on November 08, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines...
Which violates the first law of thermodynamics. If it were possible, you could easily build a perpetual motion machine.
Yes Brucer I Know it does violate that law BUT that law only seems to really apply inside the earths confined systems. Once out side of that the rules seem to operate diffrently. is it possible to learn how to utilize those rules here? I think we will discover some method that will allow us to "use" the rules in ways we do not yet understand today that will allow us to bennefit from those "other" little understood and some cases even as yet unknown laws.
Quote from: mad murdock on December 04, 2015, 09:48:54 AM
Al, i think if you employed a couple of big flux capacitors hooked in series then parallell, you might just get it to work
I imagine if you could build a flux capacitor about the size of California coupled with the Texas coil you could generate a bolt of lightning the could strike the moon .Talk about a mosquito zapper .
Al, looks like we are behind the curve. Flux capacitors are available a Walmart, O'Reilly auto parts, etc.
Only $379.99. Imagine running your sawmill on 1.2 gigawatts! Certainly lighter to carry around with you than a stone pyramid. If your saw carriage hits 88 mph you might travel in time not to mention the hospital.
Looks like the only hang up is weapons grade plutonium, maybe a road trip the Hanford, WA to see if they sell that at the gift shop.
opps. Mr Fusion is also available for only $369.99. No plutonium needed!! Sawdust, banana peels, daughters boyfriends truck keys, the possibilities are endless.
The human existence is set in a paradigm. Those who control technology control all of us. Life would be better if they did not suppress all of this technology. Think of the future now on all the technology we have then think back 10-20 years ago. It was already invented. I was laughed at years ago when i said one day they will charge for water bottles in a store. I often think of what other inventions Nickolas Tesla had in his apartment he died alone in in NYC the govt came and cleaned him out after his death. And dont look towards Hanford for a gift shop try going to Los Alamos.
A rare person trying to make a difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7f1t9y9a0
Quote from: mometal77 on December 05, 2015, 11:21:54 PM
The human existence is set in a paradigm. Those who control technology control all of us. Life would be better if they did not suppress all of this technology. Think of the future now on all the technology we have then think back 10-20 years ago. It was already invented. I was laughed at years ago when i said one day they will charge for water bottles in a store. I often think of what other inventions Nickolas Tesla had in his apartment he died alone in in NYC the govt came and cleaned him out after his death. And dont look towards Hanford for a gift shop try going to Los Alamos.
A rare person trying to make a difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7f1t9y9a0
Interesting, he has some problems identified and has some solutions.
The pedal generator would no doubt be useful to people with out electricity, generators, and fuel. The mechanical energy output of 1 human is roughly 140 watts per hour, his meters verify this. 1 gallon of gasoline contains 33,410 watts of electrical equivalent or 238 hrs pedaling. at 100% efficiency for both methods- ICE/generator/battery and pedal/generator/battery. That is roughly 1 1/2 months of 8 hr day/40 hr weeks of pedaling in just 1 gallon of gasoline. Wrap you head around the implications!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
Excluding lighting.The generation of pedal electricity to run anything is less efficient than direct coupling.
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2011/05/pedal-powered-farms-and-factories.html
Replacing our FF use while having our current US lifestyle is unlikely at best imo. US housing sprawl thanks to cheap FF and car use may be viewed someday in the future as the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of the human race. The FF problem is too big, too long range for our society to tackle. Too many of us are busy buying things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like. We want happy and that is OK, because looking at problems squarely in the face isn't always pleasant. I fear that as things get tighter we will collectively, openly embrace some form of tyranny as a solution.
I would add 1 thing to his list which might make everything he is working on pointless. The global storage of spent nuclear fuel rods. Why did we ever make something that remains toxic for 10,000 years and needs constant cooling. We might actually be the dumbest species on the planet
The possibilities are endless .For one harness the hot air coming out of Washington DC might be a starting point .
To cut to the chase there is no free wood pile nor is there free electricity which is just a means of transmitting power any way .746 watts of electrical power is one horse power ,34500 btu per hour of steam is one HP .One big Clydesdale is probably is two HP, depending on how you look at it .I don't have the figures for mules and goats .
Then there was dear old Ben Franklin supposedly discovered electricity .He knew what would happen conned his assistant to go fly the kit .Might also add old Ben said where there is not good drinking there is not good living and beer is a gift from God who wants us to be happy. I'm not so sure the WCTL approved of Ben. I'll bet he had a tin foil hat and didn't tell anybody about it .
Cuba's DIY Inventions from 30 Years of Isolation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-XS4aueDUg
Top Secret Water - 2005 Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJhogR7YLps
Here you go, a device powered by the energy in the radio waves from a WiFi router.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/08/iot_sensor_using_radio_waves/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/08/iot_sensor_using_radio_waves/)
QuoteIt draws power from a Wi-Fi router via a tiny antenna, takes a reading, and then broadcasts it back, using a slightly different frequency to give the temperature figure.
Only downside is that the range of the prototype is only about 1" from the antenna.. But hey, it's a start. :-\
Oh Lawdy we have so many radio waves floating around this planet .What happens if they mix and the third harmonics are the resonant frequency of a dentists drill .Think of all the toothaches by the zillions .
Garage doors will be going up and down on their own,lights going off and on, trains running backwards .Computers getting stuck on porn sites embarrassing aunt Lucy and grandmother .The entire world in an uproar .Not good .
Actually, the garage door thing has already happened. 10 years ago the garage doors in one neighbourhood of Ottawa (capital of Canada) started randomly opening and closing. Reporters noticed that all the affected homes were within a certain radius of the US embassy. Just after the media contacted the embassy, the problem disappeared ::).
It seems that his has also happened near US military bases.
:D Well some time ago Genie brand garage door openers had to be set with DIP switches but they came not set .I took great amusement opening and shutting peoples garage doors as I drove passed .I just couldn't help myself .
What a bunch of bull....
Energy can be neither created nor be destroyed, but it transforms from one form to another,
Period... The only free stuff is something like solar collecting or hydro and sooner or later
we will be taxed for that.
None of it is actually free in the true sense of the word. Solar,wind,hydro ,even geothermal like they have in Iceland needs money to install and maintain .
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As far as taxes if given the chance all those hot air generators in Washington D.C. would figure a way to tax the very air we breath. < oh don't get me started on that one :D
I say all energy is free. It is mankind that puts a price on it, All our energy comes from the sun and last I checked I could still step outside on a sunny day and be warmed by it. Magnify it with a water lens and cook with it . Let it grow trees and I have a stored fuel produced by the sun. Leave it long enough you get oil. All without spending a dime. Back to the power generation in a pyramid. I think they are called noble gases, when a relatively small electrical charge is introduced they glow (argon, neon, ect...) Would not take much energy to make a cloud of gas provide some light in a dark pyramid. You could even do it with a simple electrostatic generator. We seem to be stuck on the levels of consumption of today and declare that any that can power a microwave is a waste of time or a hoax. Something to think about ( a radio transmitter. yes it consumes energy to transmit but is there any limit on the number of receivers that receive that energy.) Is it theoretically possible to receive more energy than is transmitted? Now eliminate the radio transmitter and just look at all the background radiation out there. Even just from our sun. Tell me again how you can claim energy is not free. This guy is building a collector of background radiation that has and always will be there. All those who still think energy isn't free can send me a $1 sun tax so you can still be right. I have enjoyed reading all the posts and look forward to harvesting some free energy with my new MP-32 sawmill.
Welcome to the forum. :)
What free energy are you powering your mill with?
Hi, Just found this, sorry the young fellow went away, would like to have heard about his finish build.
Like to know if he did build one or was laughed out of it.
Tesla kept talking about AC current when told it wouldn't work, today that is what the world uses. Tesla proved it work, went on to build the generators that produced it. We all have small ones in our cars.
Wonder if he'll drop back by.
I hope he does, my pledge stands.