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Started by hackberry jake, January 23, 2016, 08:40:16 PM

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hackberry jake

Found a quicker way to make box joints for crate slats.
https://youtu.be/xEz3asO8q5o

Had some planer snipe as well, so I made a jig to sand all the slats. I got tired of the slats trying to bounce across the table.


 
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yukon cornelius

It seems I am a coarse thread bolt in a world of fine threaded nuts!

Making a living with a manual mill can be done!

Just Me

 One thing I have been meaning to mention Jake is that if you are going to pursue this for a living, and it appears that you are, you have to spend some money on proper dust collection, NOW!

I put it off for many years because there was always one more tool to buy that would give me more capability, something dust collection does not do. It was short sighted on my part. I now have breathing issues, and increasingly sensitivities to certain species. I did eventually get better dust collection, but the damage was already done.

At least give it some thought.........

I was able to get 2" tenons out of those cutters I PMed you about, but the two cutters stacked would not do a tenon thin enough, close to 5/8", too thick for interior doors. They do an awesome job though, especially for that money.

Sorry if I sound like an old nanny. :D


hackberry jake

I was wearing a dust mask and ear protection. You just can't see it in the video. When I am sanding, I do still get sawdust colored stuff when I blow my nose. It probably doesn't get a good seal with the beard.
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Jake
I just turned 50 years old and have worked with wood or around dust my whole life . The dust is starting to realy get me . My Dad was a brick mason and died of lung cancer 6 years ago on the 25 of January . The Dr told us his lungs were full of stuff . I have tried to be a lot better about it but it hard to break old bad habits .
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samandothers

Thanks for sharing your ingenuity and skills. I recently purchased a shaper and have no experience with one.  Your posts are beneficial.  Keep them up!

hackberry jake

Quote from: samandothers on January 24, 2016, 11:24:19 AM
Thanks for sharing your ingenuity and skills. I recently purchased a shaper and have no experience with one.  Your posts are beneficial.  Keep them up!
Most shapers have a miter slot for jigs and fixtures. The one in the video does not and I just used a sled that registers off the front of the shaper. 
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samandothers

The one I have does have the slot which should help with jigs.  I also have a sliding table for it.  It will be some time before I hook it up.  In the mean time I am watching some videos and trying to get some ideas.

hackberry jake

I made 7 altogether. I tried using a mahogany stain on one and one got a plywood bottom, but they came out pretty nice.


 
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samandothers

Nice looking boxes with the box joint!  Take a picture of the side where your joinery is showing.   Good looking rack of boxes.

Bark Beetle

Looks nice. Good idea on the sanding jig. smiley_thumbsup
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Kbeitz

Quote from: hackberry jake on January 23, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
Found a quicker way to make box joints for crate slats.
https://youtu.be/xEz3asO8q5o

Had some planer snipe as well, so I made a jig to sand all the slats. I got tired of the slats trying to bounce across the table.


 

To bad you dont have a slot in your table. You would like this tool....



 
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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

hackberry jake

I have one of those, but I've never used it. I thought it was a tenoning jig for a table saw. It did come with a shaper though. How would you use it with a shaper?

Here is a pic of the jointery. I used a roundover bit on most of the edges, but I decided to leave one crate with square corners. I still haven't decided which one I like better.


  

 
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thecfarm

I like the square one better. But that is just me too. One of the big box store sells rounded corners  PT 4X4. I go to the other one that has the square corners.
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samandothers

I lean toward the rounded corners.  Both are very nice.  Use your table saw to do the side joinery? 

Thanks for sharing the finished product.

Dan_Shade

What do you use to spread the glue?

Gluing box joints and dovetails can be frustrating.
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WDH

I am in the rounded corners camp.
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Larry

Cool!!!!  Excellent craftsmanship.

Larry, making useful and beautiful things out of the most environmental friendly material on the planet.

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Kbeitz

Quote from: hackberry jake on January 31, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
I have one of those, but I've never used it. I thought it was a tenoning jig for a table saw. It did come with a shaper though. How would you use it with a shaper?

Here is a pic of the jointery. I used a roundover bit on most of the edges, but I decided to leave one crate with square corners. I still haven't decided which one I like better.


  

 

Works for both. If you drill new holes on the botton and turn the table slide you could use it for your project.



 

I also like this jig...



 

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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

hackberry jake

Quote from: Dan_Shade on January 31, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
What do you use to spread the glue?

Gluing box joints and dovetails can be frustrating.
Popsicle sticks. It goes pretty quick once you get a feel for it.
Quote from: samandothers on January 31, 2016, 09:53:02 AM
Use your table saw to do the side joinery? 

I made up a jig to use the cnc router to box joint the ends, but I just ordered a few things to make it faster to do it on the table saw. The router works good but it is slow and takes time to move the spindle up high enough. I would then have to reset it down low to cut the handles out. Here is the way I had it jigged up.


 
Here is the stack of sides waiting for the next operation.


 

Heres a better pic of the finished crate.


 
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21incher

They are great looking crates. How are the bottoms fastened? I see box joints on 3 sides of the blank, but only see them on 2 sides of the assembled crate. ???
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hackberry jake

The one in the picture is the one that got the plywood bottom. The rest had box jointed slats for bottoms just like the sides.
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teed

Just what I'm looking for a easy way to do it.
Do you have any picture of cutter when not spinning :D
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hackberry jake

https://www.facebook.com/TripleTreeWoodworks

EZ Boardwalk Jr. With 20hp Honda, 25' of track, and homemade setworks. 32x18 sawshed. 24x40 insulated shop. 30hp kubota with fel. 1978 Massey ferguson 230.

teed

Thank you for taking the time to share
On my homestead, I mill with.
Logosol B1001 bandsaw mill
Woodland mill HM122 bandsaw mill
Logosol F2 with Speedsaw E5 chainsaw mill
Logosol Farmers with Stihl MS391 and MS661

ozarkgem

is that a bloody bandage by your knuckles? :D
Nice job.
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Czech_Made

Quote from: Kbeitz on January 31, 2016, 03:28:11 AM
Quote from: hackberry jake on January 23, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
Found a quicker way to make box joints for crate slats.
https://youtu.be/xEz3asO8q5o

Had some planer snipe as well, so I made a jig to sand all the slats. I got tired of the slats trying to bounce across the table.


 

To bad you dont have a slot in your table. You would like this tool....



 

I was eyeballing that at Grizzly catalog for a while.  Is it worth it?

Solomon

Quote from: samandothers on January 24, 2016, 11:24:19 AM
Thanks for sharing your ingenuity and skills. I recently purchased a shaper and have no experience with one.  Your posts are beneficial.  Keep them up!
I just bought a new Shaper myself,  perhaps we can keep in touch with each other's progress.   I don't have much expierence either.
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