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Poll
Question: what degree bandsaw blade do you use
Option 1: 4 deg - softwood votes: 21
Option 2: 4 deg - Hardwood votes: 28
Option 3: 5 deg - softwood votes: 0
Option 4: 5 deg - Hardwood votes: 1
Option 5: 7 deg - softwood votes: 30
Option 6: 7 deg - Hardwood votes: 39
Option 7: 10 deg - softwood votes: 49
Option 8: 10 deg - Hardwood votes: 31
Option 9: do not know votes: 4
Option 10: 13 deg - softwood votes: 2
Option 11: 13 deg - Hardwood votes: 1
Option 12: 8 deg - softwood added 2017-10-24 votes: 1
Option 13: 8 deg - Hardwood added 2017-10-24 votes: 2
Title: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: DDW_OR on April 20, 2017, 10:51:37 PM
Member Carson-saws suggested creating a tally list/poll
parent topic
7 deg or 10 deg? in Sawmills and Milling (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,95778.0.html#top)

FYI - this is my first time creating a poll  :)

edit #1 - as new angles are mentioned i will add it to the list. last one was 13 degree

edit #2 - I could ad an option for every angle from 3 to 15 degree but i am choosing to keep to the standard factory blade angles.
if you do not have a standard angle i recommend voting for the one that is nearest your custom angle.

FYI i added a poll on HP and degree
2020 - what degree bandsaw blade and HP do you use ??? in Sawmills and Milling (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=110574.0)
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: WLC on April 20, 2017, 11:05:45 PM
Well, you did good.  The poll works.  I got the honor of being the first to vote.  Only time I remember coming in first. ;D
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Mt406 on April 20, 2017, 11:29:30 PM
That's me day late and a dollar short #2
I have been watching that thread I have been have blade issues
I am running Lt 35 25 Hp  I have been running Kasco 7s and liking them but will still get chatter marks on wide cuts
started using 4s with very good cuts  I started reshaping my old 10s and 7s to 4s
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Percy on April 20, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
I use WM 13 degree pretty much exclusively for both hard and softwood. I dont cut much hardwood but when I do, its usually birch or cottonwood and they cut it nice and fast.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Chuck White on April 21, 2017, 06:29:54 AM
I marked 10°, it's my "go-to" blade, and 7°, which is actually an 8°, (a modified 10°)  after sharpening on my Cat Claw sharpener for Spruce and Hardwood.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: dgdrls on April 21, 2017, 06:37:01 AM
Nice job with the Poll,

I run a circle swinger so this is all Greek to me :D

D
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: kelLOGg on April 21, 2017, 09:02:50 AM
James Osmond of CooksSaw had an interesting article on hook angle in the latest issue (Issue 1 of 2017) of their magazine. It was pretty much along the conventional wisdom (10° hardwood, lower for soft) but he added that lower hook angles perform better on mills that are not properly aligned. I switched to lower angles for hardwood a year ago w/o noticing any change but am switching back to 10° for all woods (for now) to see if it reveals the need for alignment.
Bob
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 21, 2017, 09:23:09 AM
   Don't know if I skewed the poll because I use 4 degree for pine and spruce because of the knots as well as all my hardwoods but I use 10 degree for poplar. I will likely eventually just use 4s for everything.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Ox on April 21, 2017, 10:33:51 AM
5° hook angle?  Not unless you customize on your own sharpener...  I don't think they sell a blade like this.  Never heard of one anyways... :)
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Joe Hillmann on April 21, 2017, 02:49:21 PM
All of my blades started off as 10 degree.  I have some damaged ones that I resharpened a few degrees less but as long as they are sharp I can't tell any difference in softwoods and don't cut much hardwood so I don't know if it makes much difference in them either.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Ox on April 22, 2017, 10:45:37 AM
Funny thing that I noticed is this:  a blade that is being pulled for not good enough for softwood will work absolutely perfectly for a long time in a hardwood.  It's completely backwards in my mind!  ??? :laugh:
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Andries on April 22, 2017, 10:57:05 AM
Yup, I was wondering about that "hole in the chart".

Quote from: Ox on April 21, 2017, 10:33:51 AM
5° hook angle?  Not unless you customize on your own sharpener...  I don't think they sell a blade like this.  Never heard of one anyways... :)
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Percy on April 22, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Keeper of the poll(DDW) is doing a great job!! smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: DDW_OR on April 22, 2017, 02:54:55 PM
thanks.

i added an edit #2 to my first post.

should i either add voting for sharpeners used or create a new pole
Timberking Sharpener
Woodmizer Sharpener
Cooks sharpener
Dremmel
Raidio arm saw
any others
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Darrel on April 22, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
I use an older WM which is quite different from the one they currently sell. Also when it comes to tooth setters, I use a duel tooth setter that I made myself.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: Carson-saws on April 22, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
DDW_OR...Thank you very much! Great job setting it up!  I would have made a real mess of it. Thank you
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: kelLOGg on May 04, 2020, 06:53:45 AM
I think HP should be added to the poll because it has bearing on the success of higher rake angles.
Sorry to complicate things.
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: DDW_OR on May 04, 2020, 10:52:01 AM
Quote from: kelLOGg on May 04, 2020, 06:53:45 AM
I think HP should be added to the poll because it has bearing on the success of higher rake angles.
Sorry to complicate things.
i could start a separate poll on mill HP and angle

it will be complicated, 32 choices.
i agree it will be worth it for those deciding what to do

15 HP - 4 deg
15 HP - 7 deg
15 HP - 10 deg

all the way to

over 50 HP - 4 deg
over 50 HP - 7 deg
over 50 HP - 10 deg
Title: Re: what degree bandsaw blade
Post by: kelLOGg on May 04, 2020, 12:31:25 PM
Thanks so much for doing this. It'll be interesting to see the results as more submit their vote.