Putting the WPF together

Qweaver · November 30, 2011, 12:10:37 PM

I downloaded the WPF manual and the assembly looks a little complicated. Maybe it will be easier when I have the mill in front of me. I can't wait!

scsmith42 · December 01, 2011, 08:03:22 AM

Quinton, you DOG! You went and ordered one, eh? Congrats and welcome to the club.

Let me know if you want any OTJ training. You're welcome to come on down and see how I use mine. GA_Boy and the Captain were my original trainers; hopefully I can do them justice by paying it forward.

Got a place for you to sleep too.

Scott

customsawyer · December 01, 2011, 09:17:05 AM

How far does that invitation extend. ;D

islandlogger · December 01, 2011, 09:42:29 AM

Qweaver
It's really not all that hard to put together and plus your so excited at the time it's just plain FUN!!
Look forward to hearing all about it!!
islandlogger

Qweaver · December 01, 2011, 10:02:13 AM

Hey Scott,
I'd love to do that. Can Sarah come too? I have several big white oaks to saw and I'd sure like to know what I'm doing before I start. The saw will take 6 weeks to get here and anytime that's good for you after that will be probably be good for us. Being retired has some advantages.
Quinton

scsmith42 · December 01, 2011, 10:31:42 AM

Quote from: customsawyer on December 01, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
How far does that invitation extend. ;D

Jake, I think that I'd probably learn more from you than vice versa, but you're welcome too! If you come up this way, drag Danny along with you, I'd like to meet both of y'all.

scsmith42 · December 01, 2011, 10:40:06 AM

Quote from: Qweaver on December 01, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
Hey Scott,
I'd love to do that. Can Sarah come too? I have several big white oaks to saw and I'd sure like to know what I'm doing before I start. The saw will take 6 weeks to get here and anytime that's good for you after that will be probably be good for us. Being retired has some advantages.
Quinton

You betcha that Sarah is welcome too!

Ever since the shop fire destoyed our garage appartment, (and the only spare bedroom in the house is "the cat room" - ah, the joys of being married to a veterinarian...)), we put our guests up in our camper, if that's acceptable for y'all. It's a pretty nice unit, with all the comforts of home.

Let's watch the weather and see what will work out best. You may want to come down a week or two before your mill arrives, so that it's pretty fresh in your mind.

Did you order a retipping jig? If not, I have one that you can take some dimensions from in case you know a good local welder that can fabricate it for you..... :D IMO, a retipping jig is a must to go with the saw. It's a good idea if you order the spare parts kit from Peterson too.

Which model saw did you get?

Qweaver · December 01, 2011, 05:00:18 PM

The motorhome is where we put our "overflow" guests also. I did order an extra blade (which gives me three) and 6 tips. I figured that I could build a re-tipping jig. I ordered the wpf 10" with LoLo, 6' 6" extensions, and electric drive winch. With lift capacity of my JD 110 I thought that the LoLo would work better. If I can't lift it, I'll set-up over it.
I didn't know about your fire. Sorry to hear it. I guess the saw will be here about the middle of January. We'll just plan to come when it is most convenient for you. My Email is Qweaver@peoplepc.com

Quinton

scsmith42 · December 02, 2011, 01:47:07 PM

Quinton, sounds like we're thinking alike, as you ordered the exact same setup that I have, with the exception that I have more track.

Let's watch the weather and keep in touch. Thx.

SS

Qweaver · December 06, 2011, 05:23:18 PM

I just got the shipping details from Peterson today. If I'm lucky I'll see it by the end of January. I'll try to get a concrete slab for it by then...kind of hard to get concrete pouring weather this time of year tho'.

Raider Bill · December 06, 2011, 05:45:20 PM

Quote from: scsmith42 on December 01, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: customsawyer on December 01, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
How far does that invitation extend. ;D

Jake, I think that I'd probably learn more from you than vice versa, but you're welcome too! If you come up this way, drag Danny along with you, I'd like to meet both of y'all.

I met both of you at the sawlex in greenville SC didn't you meet there?

customsawyer · December 06, 2011, 07:18:58 PM

Of course, but that don't mean we remember. I don't even remember the name of the guy in the mirror when I am shaving half the time.

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 08:13:45 AM

Quote from: Qweaver on December 06, 2011, 05:23:18 PM
I just got the shipping details from Peterson today. If I'm lucky I'll see it by the end of January. I'll try to get a concrete slab for it by then...kind of hard to get concrete pouring weather this time of year tho'.

Quinton, if you're going to pour a slab, I would highly encourage you to cast some angle iron in place as a track, and only use the aluminum tracks when you need to go mobile.

It would make log handling much easier, and you would not have to worry about damaging the track by dropping something on it.

Design the height to allow for log bunks in the middle (leave a channel in the concrete).

Sounds like we may want to get you and Sarah up here sooner rather than later. Let me chat with Laureen and get back with you.

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 08:15:18 AM

Quote from: Raider Bill on December 06, 2011, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: scsmith42 on December 01, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: customsawyer on December 01, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
How far does that invitation extend. ;D

Jake, I think that I'd probably learn more from you than vice versa, but you're welcome too! If you come up this way, drag Danny along with you, I'd like to meet both of y'all.

I met both of you at the sawlex in greenville SC didn't you meet there?

Yup, I was there, but like Jake don't remember everybody that I met. Bill, I remember you, but then again, you're kinda memorable..... :D

I also met Tom, Jeff, and the Logrite crowd, and think (but am not sure) that i might have met Chris (Metalspinner) when I met you.

Qweaver · December 07, 2011, 08:47:48 AM

Scott,
Making angle iron tracks sounds like a great idea. I hadn't thought of that. Can you send me a cross sectional sketch of that. We are currently closing in the downstaires to make an apartment for Sonya, so the next three weeks are tied up. After that we are free. We are up for a trip to the south. 8)
Quinton

Raider Bill · December 07, 2011, 09:09:40 AM

HAha!!! I remember you because of all your toys [and of course because you are so handsome]and Jake because of his hat!
Yes Chris [MetalSpinner] and I rode over together.

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 09:13:37 AM

Quinton, why don't we shoot for sometime during the first half of January? We're wide open for most of the month (although Laureen will be gone for several days mid month at a continuing education session in FL).

Check your schedule and let me know what works best. During the week is probably a bit better for us as opposed to a weekend, but we can make weekends work too if needed.

I can make a sketch and also take some measurements from mine, but you might want to come run mine before you get to the point of forming and pouring concrete (nothing like hands-on experience to better understand how to build something).

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 09:16:03 AM

Quote from: Raider Bill on December 07, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
HAha!!! I remember you [and of course because you are so handsome]!

:D Yeah,right....

Raider Bill · December 07, 2011, 09:22:47 AM

ok maybe it was your personality! :D

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 09:23:32 AM

Quote from: Raider Bill on December 07, 2011, 09:22:47 AM
ok maybe it was your personality! :D

Undoubtedly, that must have been it.... :D

terrifictimbersllc · December 07, 2011, 09:34:30 AM

This is a great idea. But I would consider placing anchor bolts in a line in the concrete, mounting the angles to that, to allow some vertical and horizontal adjustment of the angle iron. Or maybe just fix strips of PT lumber to the concrete, then fix the angles to that. It would be quite a feat to be able to cast angle iron in concrete to achieve the spacing and linear tolerances needed. WPF rollers ride on 1/8" wide vertical extrusions on top of the tracks. On one side there is a narrow groove roller which fits this extrusion and on the other side a wide groove roller, groove about 5/8" wide which allows for some slop in the spacing between the rails. If the sideways spacing of the angle iron uprights isn't close enough one would be jumping off or tearing up the rollers. Also the tops of the extrusion and rails needs to be linear, deviation from which would affect flatness of boards.

scsmith42 · December 07, 2011, 12:56:33 PM

It would definitely need to be precise.

The reason that I like the concept of having the steel embedded in the concrete is because it would be less likely to be damaged by rolling a log over it.

On the other hand, if it ever got bent (such as being hit by forklift forks), it would be more difficult to repair (have to chip out concrete).

Ianab · December 07, 2011, 01:51:37 PM

Would also work as a track extension for cutting longer beams etc. Make sure it's same height as the alloy tracks and join them together if needed.

I would just pour the concrete slab for now, then bolt the fixed rails in place with concrete anchor bolts and some sort of metal tabs so it can be adjusted or shimmed as needed. If you did manage to knock it out of alignment, loosen the bolts re-adjust.

Ian

Husband · December 09, 2011, 04:53:15 PM

Hi guys.

Been following the thread 8)

Quinton, sounds like we're thinking alike, as you ordered the exact same setup that I have, with the exception that I have more track.

Scott he has the 35hp on his mill, so be prepared to tail out quicker than normal :D

Keep us posted as i am sure you guys will as to how things are going. I am off to Fiji in the morning to go cut some coconut tress and Mahogany, will take the camera and get some pics for you all.

Chris.

scsmith42 · December 09, 2011, 07:13:21 PM

Chris, we'll look forward to the pix.

Wish that I had 35 hp instead of 27.... I can definitely bog mine down as I'm milling the big oaks.

Qweaver · December 12, 2011, 10:19:14 PM

Well...some bad news. Shipping got delayed a week in NZ. The delivery date is now the first week in Feb. I'm getting some big logs now and I need this sucker. :'(

scsmith42 · December 12, 2011, 10:37:35 PM

Quinton, don't be surprised if it takes a week or so to make it through U.S. Customs too.

You'll be full of ideas after your visit here, so the delay is probably a good thing, as that will allow you to break out your welding equipment and start making some custom bunks, etc.

Can't wait to see y'all and brainstorm some ideas!

SS

Qweaver · December 27, 2011, 02:31:20 PM

The saw is hitting the western shore Jan. 16. Then customs and shipping. I'm getting ready. 8)

Nomad · December 27, 2011, 06:00:12 PM

I could be wrong about this, but I think I sense a little excitement here? :D

scsmith42 · December 27, 2011, 08:43:06 PM

Quinton, have you figured out your schedule in January yet?

Piston · January 01, 2012, 09:16:27 PM

i had no idea what wpf even meant :D

I just checked it out on their site, looks pretty impressive. Are you keeping the LT28 to compliment the new mill?

Qweaver · January 03, 2012, 07:39:30 AM

Quote from: scsmith42 on December 27, 2011, 08:43:06 PM
Quinton, have you figured out your schedule in January yet?

Hey Scott, it turns out that I have some other health issues that have to be addressed before I can know how my January can be planned. Nothing serious but I am at the call of the doctors so I can't be sure how long this will take.

Quinton

scsmith42 · January 03, 2012, 07:45:56 PM

No problem, just give me a week or so's notice.

Scott

Qweaver · January 12, 2012, 07:51:13 PM

The saw was scheduled to make landfall on Jan. 6th. No word from customes yet. Waiting, waiting, waiting! It's a long way from LA to WV. :'(

Husband · January 17, 2012, 03:43:28 AM

Hi guys. ;)
Just on to say that I am sorry for not posting my pics of my trip to the pacific Islands. My computer got a virus and I had to wipe EVERYTHING and start again, so no pics :'(.
Keep us posted (I am sure you will) as to progress with your new toy when it arrives, and take care of yourself

Qweaver · January 25, 2012, 06:31:11 PM

Just got the call from the trucking company last evening. Customs opened the box...that was the delay. The saw should be delivered in 4 days. I'm clearing out the saw shed tomorrow. Should I have several strong bodies on hand to get the saw onto the forks of my JD110?
Quinton.

terrifictimbersllc · January 25, 2012, 07:04:24 PM

Hopefully you have a barn or similar loading ramp so maybe you can scoot it right out. Don't think you can pick it up with forks until you can get at it from the side. You can't pick it up from the end. The box probably weighs about 1000 pounds. Maybe you can arrange heavy timbers on which it can be slid down to the ground. I was glad I asked for a truck with a lift gate. I ended up pulling it out of the truck with a chain until it was mostly on the lift gate. Then got at it from the end, and got one end on the forks with the other end on the gate. We then lowered both the forks and the lift gate at the same time to the ground. I was then able to pick it up on the side, but just barely, and back it into my driveway. After that I could push it around no problem. In the truck, the box of rails was loaded on top of the mill box. It took most of our time to get this mill rail box off the larger mill box, and on to the ground safely. I had 6 mill rail sections so it weighed about 400 pounds. I didn't want anything to fall, after all that travel from NZ. The trucker was there an hour and a half, and very patient. I gave him a nice tip.