Cedar log and tree scales

[Larry]

I had a copy of the cedar scale that Arky gave to me years ago.  Only problem is it only gives the scale for 8' long logs.  I bought some cedar today but the logger wants to cut mostly 10' which I really don't know how to scale.  In the past I would have used international which I thought was fair, but maybe not right.  Did a google search and found this:

Cedar tree and log scales

Why the Nebraska Forest Service would have any interest in cedar is beyond me...I didn't think they hardly had any way up there.

Something I also noticed is that it goes all the way too 24" diameter.  Any thoughts on that from you cedar guys?

Anyhow its here iffen ya want to use it.  I ran off a few copies to give to my logger friends.

[Dewey]

I saw Cedar  here in Maine... I buy random length  and usually pay by International rule.....  I have a couple of loggers that prefer being paid by weight  .... So I go eather way

[WDH]

Why is there a separate cedar scale?

[Larry]

I've also pondered that question.  My thinking is the prominent scale is Doyle in these parts.  Not at all accurate for small erc logs.  I sure would like to buy a load or two on Doyle.

[sandhills]

I couldn't open your link, but to answer your question about why Nebraska would have an interest in cedar


 

Cedars grow like weeds in Nebraska  ;).  That's the "open" part of the pasture, the rest is thick.  :-\

[okmulch]

If you have an 8' scale simply prorate it to 10.  Divide what you pay for an 8' log by 8 and then multiply it by 10.
Cedar is totally different than hardwood.  Best log is second log up the tree, not butt log usually.  Best and highest value wood is heart wood , not the out side of tree.  Remember knots no defect.
Nebraska has lots of cedar.  Part of the plains that has seen cedar grow by leaps and bounds since fire is not part of the landscape any more.  Same reason Oklahoma has over 3 billion board feet of standing cedar sawlogs 6" and bigger.
No logger in his right mind would sell cedar on the Doyle scale since it is not even close on how many feet are in a small log. 
Like any log scale, it was developed to solve the problem of what is fair to  both the sawmill and logger for the species and sizes used.  ERC scale goes to 16", then Doyle does take over for these large logs.
Our mill when operating in Al was for logs 6 to 9" x 8'  . We did buy a lot by weight. 

[okmulch]

In Indiana, loggers also expect much better scaling on 12' logs because of taper.  For 16' logs, they are scaled at small end for an 8' and again in the middle of the log for another 8'.  If you won't do that, then don't expect and long logs..