Road bans

Bruno of NH · February 21, 2018, 12:15:30 PM

The road bans went up yesterday in my area

SawyerTed · February 21, 2018, 12:23:57 PM

I'm not familiar with the idea of road bans. Is this part of what "you guys" call mud season?

Bruno of NH · February 21, 2018, 12:35:37 PM

Posted weight limits on the roads 6 tons in my town.
No posting on most state roads
I live off of a state road

It is for mud season

Percy · February 21, 2018, 12:52:56 PM

Up here when the weather warms usually in March/April, the load restrictions as we call them come on. All log movements usually stop in this period. Have to plan for it and sometime the weather don't co operate.

thecfarm · February 21, 2018, 01:36:28 PM

Town of Jay did it a few days ago. I've been expecting my town to do it too. I saw another town close by posted the roads too.

nativewolf · February 21, 2018, 02:19:14 PM

Quote from: thecfarm on February 21, 2018, 01:36:28 PM
Town of Jay did it a few days ago. I've been expecting my town to do it too. I saw another town close by posted the roads too.

so what causes the road ban? Is it freeze/thaw issues with the ground? We don't have any such limits in VA, that I know of, and it preplexes me as to why there would be a weight limit on a state maintained road?

Bruno of NH · February 21, 2018, 02:39:05 PM

When the ground thaws out under a paved road with a bad base a heavy load will roll the pavement up like roller table.
Most state roads aren't posted that's what i'm happy about I can still get logs got 2 loads today.
The gravel road turn right deep mud if the base is not good.

47sawdust · February 21, 2018, 03:15:16 PM

Mud season is great!60° at the moment 13°tomorrow night.
Before I had a garage my truck froze in solid one night,I had to pour hot water around each wheel to be able to move it.The road shoulders on the back roads are especially dicey.The road crews wing back the snow and the shoulders are not frozen creating a no man's land.I buried 2 vehicles up to the axles by getting over a little too far.

thecfarm · February 21, 2018, 06:24:43 PM

Roads are posted in Chesterville.
I don't know for sure how the law reads,but seem like it has to be below freezing for 24 hours? Than you can truck on the roads. Not alot of truck police around here. Or I don't see trucks pulled over too often. There is a paper mill only 20 minutes from me.

Southside · February 21, 2018, 08:25:45 PM

cfarm - if it's the same as it was then the restrictions apply when the temperature is above 32F, below that you can run with what you got. There is no time requirement.

Chuck White · February 22, 2018, 07:00:53 AM

We had water going over the roads in a few places in our area yesterday!

sealark37 · February 22, 2018, 08:38:52 AM

The members here who do not have experience in the North Country, have no idea what mud is. Mud affects every outdoor activity there for weeks and sometimes months in the late winter and spring. Regards, Clark

Kbeitz · February 22, 2018, 09:27:11 AM

Just go to Youtube and watch some Russian spectaculars if your really want to see some mud.
I don't know how they do it...

petefrom bearswamp · February 22, 2018, 10:02:12 AM

Kbeitz, they have no respect for their trucks and machinery. I would like to see the yards around their repair shops.

nativewolf · February 22, 2018, 10:04:07 AM

Quote from: Bruno of NH on February 21, 2018, 02:39:05 PM
When the ground thaws out under a paved road with a bad base a heavy load will roll the pavement up like roller table.
Most state roads aren't posted that's what i'm happy about I can still get logs got 2 loads today.
The gravel road turn right deep mud if the base is not good.

Thanks, that helps a southern boy understand. We had our first deep freeze here in N Va that I can remember, with 3 weeks not above freezing, nights down to teens. Ground froze and the logging got very slippery until spring came along 8 weeks early. Now even with a bit of rain it is thawed and the trees have started pumping and drying out the forest, forest road are still a mess though

Peter Drouin · February 22, 2018, 12:17:32 PM

Bans going up today in my town.

jason.weir · February 22, 2018, 01:27:38 PM

signs went up here yesterday.

about 3 weeks early - looks to be a long mud season

Lots of folks standing around waiting for the frost to be out of the ground...

goose63 · February 22, 2018, 04:04:35 PM

Ours will go up 1st of April for 8 weeks or so

Dave Shepard · February 22, 2018, 08:52:39 PM

I've never seen a weight limit go yo around here, but there are a couple of dirt roads that are local traffic only when it gets muddy. I suppose if you had to get a load of logs off that road, then you would be local traffic. :D

Runningalucas · February 23, 2018, 12:24:31 AM

We've got load limits here in North Idaho for the last month. The frost heave can be extreme in some areas; roads magically end up bumpy as all heck, or sometimes you end up with a giant 'heave' across the road, or along the road.

There's a state highway here, that has axle limits of 14,000lbs, and all trucks, and buses on that road 30mph limit; talk about ruining a highway.....

PA_Walnut · February 23, 2018, 06:54:27 AM

My lane is about the same...the base is just sunken in, the mud prevails. Any of my attempts to add stone are futile after a day or two. (and the rain keeps coming). :-\