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irvi00

Anyone else out there getting calls and requests specifically for rough cut lumber? They want full dimension, bandsawn lumber and willing to pay a premium. I can't keep up with orders, and I'm pricing ABOVE kiln dried, dressed prices. Seems like folks are after that ole rustic look. 

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Reclaimed wood, farm tables, rustic flooring, and walnut tops, all the in thing these days.  We can thank HGTV for it.  
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The reason that I was called to saw that 230 mile away road trip job detailed on the "Whatcha Sawin" topic was that the customer wanted rough cut posts, beams, and timbers.  I sawed ~12Mbf and now he is calling and wanting me to come back as soon as possible.
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irvi00

Quote from: Southside logger on February 21, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
Reclaimed wood, farm tables, rustic flooring, and walnut tops, all the in thing these days.  We can thank HGTV for it.  
Aside from the specialty wood, and "exotics". People are desperate for anything they can get. Even after I explain that squirrels were running on it that morning. 

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WLC

What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

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irvi00

Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.

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WLC

Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
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irv00- Should I stop sending folks your way when they call looking for lumber?  I'd hate to see y'all having to stay open on Saturday just to keep up.  :laugh:
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goose63

I have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill 



This 100 bf when he askd how much I told him $500 he brought cash Morri just let me know he would like more now if it would just warm up so I can get back to milling
goose
if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
thank you to all the vets

Brad_bb

Rough circle sawn I can understand.  But with a woodmizer, you don't get good sawmarks unless you're dull or have hit a nail.  I actually bought some rough circle sawn oak that had been sitting a while and was grayed.  By the time I finished it, it was close enough match to the barnwood I was using when I ran short.
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It is a craze ! I know this young lady that started a printing business . She called me and asked if I would mill and build her some "rough cut " lumber shelves . I laughed so hard when she handed me a bunch of printed pictures of rough cut lumber so I would know what it looked like . I did the job with 2" thick pine slabs live one edge 16' long  4 shelves . She almost had tears in her eyes ! I don't see this trend dying off any time soon . As for reclaimed stuff I have seen pit sawn walnut and it is real nice !
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Goose,

   I'm betting that was 1,000 bf not 100 based on the size of the trailer and such. Can you clarify?
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Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 22, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Goose,

  I'm betting that was 1,000 bf not 100 based on the size of the trailer and such. Can you clarify?
Yea goose, that looks to me like between 750 and a 1000 feet presuming it is 8 ft long.
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PC-Urban-Sawyer

And if that's a hundred bf, I'll take a couple thousand bf as soon as I can get a semi there to pick it up...

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goose63

OOOOPS my bad it was 700 bf boy you guys sure on the ball eh  ;D
goose
if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
thank you to all the vets

WV Sawmiller

Goose,

   Glad you cleared that up as to the amount and the price. I know my 5X8 trailer stacked level with the top of the side rails is about 500 bf. Also I'd hate to see you selling lumber for 50 cents a bf. I do sell my poplar and pine for 75 cents a bf (and that's probably too cheap) but more for everything else.
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Bert

Rough circle sawn? Wish i could find these people. It is a look that many flooring mfgs copy but yet I cant deal it. Done a few, but no real guarantee on steady business.
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irvi00

Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.

irvi00

Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on February 22, 2018, 08:22:56 AM
irv00- Should I stop sending folks your way when they call looking for lumber?  I'd hate to see y'all having to stay open on Saturday just to keep up.  :laugh:
Send em on! I'll do my best! Get by here one day and lets talk! 

SawyerTed

I've got 1200 bdft of 4/4 rough sawn 6", 8"' and 10" wide white oak.  The 6" is 12', the rest is mostly 8'.   The trees came down in 1989 in Hurricane Hogo and has been air dried since it was milled.

I can't find a buyer!  What am I doing wrong? 
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WLC

Quote from: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.
Yall still out there in Leaf?
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TKehl

Quote from: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 10:55:15 AMI have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill 


Goose, I had to map that out of curiosity.  That's 5 hours and 45 minutes to your place.  He's actually closer to me than you!  :D
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goose63

Quote from: TKehl on February 23, 2018, 07:19:51 AM
Quote from: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 10:55:15 AMI have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill


Goose, I had to map that out of curiosity.  That's 5 hours and 45 minutes to your place.  He's actually closer to me than you!  :D
Yea he said some thing about going to Mo but he came ofer here and likes my red pine now we are wateing for the weather to get better so he can come back for more
goose
if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
thank you to all the vets

TKehl

Well, wasn't me.  Not trying to steal your customer.  Don't have any Red Pine anyway.  

On the other hand, if he wants some Eastern Red Cedar, you are welcome to give him my number.   :D
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goose63

TKehl

Nrxt time I talk to him I will pm me your cell # I will pass it on
goose
if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
thank you to all the vets

irvi00

Quote from: WLC on February 23, 2018, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.
Yall still out there in Leaf?
Yup. Same spot. Come on by and visit sometime!

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I see the update made the Quote button have a hair pin trigger.  :D
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WLC

May just do that the next time we come home for a visit.
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irvi00

Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 23, 2018, 06:56:03 PM
I see the update made the Quote button have a hair pin trigger.  :D
I still aint figured this site out. Its a miracle I can post pics. 

Magicman

"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
:D :D :D
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Southside

Full Auto quote... on the Forum... 
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irvi00

Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use. 

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Magicman

Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PMThis is a difficult forum to use.
Nothing wrong with the forum.  I was simply pointing out how difficult it is to read and understand replies with multiple quotes stacked on top of one another. 
 
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irvi00

Just trying to reply specifically to someone replying to me. Other forums are much easier to use, and don't require a rocket scientist to post pics. But neither here nor there. Have fun. 

Southside

Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use.
Don't apologize - good group of guys here and the more they bust your chops the more they like you - well at least that is what I have convinced myself of!!  
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Magicman

irvi00, you have read enough of my replies to know that the only intent that I ever have here is to help someone.  If I seemed to come on a bit strong or critical, then I apologize because that was never my intent.
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paul case

The thing about the Quotes that confuses me is when the quoter writes his response inside the quote box.

I am quite easily confused though.

I have had a 4 month up tick in the want for my lumber because it is rough sawn and native. No kidding. There aren't many people offering the services that I do near me.
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Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use.
Find another then. There has only been going on two million posts here. Yea, it must be tough to be here. I try my best to make this place the best it can be and then I read crap like this.
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Jeff

I just went over every one of your posts. Not one time did you ask for help with something in regards to posting a photo or a forestry forum function. In fact, until just this topic, you hadn't even griped about anything.  I just spent I would imagine around 200 hours in the last month going over the Forestry Forum to try and make it better for everyone going forward.  EXCUSE ME ALL TO ---- for being a bit thinned skinned at the moment.
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WLC

Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
Its the way the quote function works.  I've seen the ability to choose to single quote or quote the entire message string on other forums.  This forum doesn't use that feature, or have that feature in its software and when you hit the quote button you get the whole string. He was only making sure that I knew he was responding to me.  Seems the neighborly thing to do .

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Quote from: WLC on February 23, 2018, 11:10:44 PM

Its the way the quote function works.  I've seen the ability to choose to single quote or quote the entire message string on other forums.  This forum doesn't use that feature, or have that feature in its software and when you hit the quote button you get the whole string. He was only making sure that I knew he was responding to me.  Seems the neighborly thing to do .
Quotes can be edited to remove the unwanted segments. Highlight the parts of the quote you want to insert and the hit the quote button.
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Southside

The new function, using the highlight, is an AWESOME feature.  Jeff - or maybe it was my good buddy  Testaccount - did a video on this feature and it breaks it all down.  If this technology dinosaur can do it - anybody can.  
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Jeff

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WLC

Quote from: Southside logger on February 23, 2018, 11:21:12 PMThe new function, using the highlight, is an AWESOME feature.


OK, Figured that one out.  Never seen this feature on another forum.  Cool!!  Thanks.
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Magicman

I understand making a quote to direct the reply to a specific person but 5 quotes repeating the entire conversation of both parties blew my screen.  My reply was not directed toward either individual but toward the need to not use excessive multiple quotes.

The new quote features that Jeff recently incorporated are awesome but even before that we have always been able to snip/delete the excess quote content.
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trapper

quote worked perfect for me  deleted the part I didn't want and added my comment to to the post  
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