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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2017, 05:09:26 PM »
Here you go! 1.73 m3






A bit much for my jib!  :(
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2018, 01:56:29 PM »
Liteul progress!











Now, it need a fairlead, a PTO, a fairlead support. An hydraulic pump. New batteries.

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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2018, 04:18:53 PM »
I heard peppy lepieu saying "little" when i read it just now  :D


So that center pto unit is the one you did end up buying?  How is it gonna be controlled on your rig?
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2018, 05:05:37 PM »
Hi Mike. 

It's not that small. Can hold 393 feet approximately of 1/2 cable. 

It's a weird unit. 

It has a dog clutch. Which i would have preferred to be friction clutch. Like can car and gearmatic.   It free-spools, locks/ There is an inverter so can work both ways, which can be a really nice feature. 

And there is a neutral in between forward and reverse.  So i could skip the dog clutch on the pto. 

It will be controlled from the cabin. Since with the dog clutch, i need to clutch the gearbox, to engage the winch, so the PTO doesn't turn. 

Some idiot has made a ratchet with the old brake band lever, and welded some stubs of metal to act as ratchet teeth. 

I haven't decided what to do yet with this. I'd like to have a disc brake with two big calipers. 

What do you think of the winch position? Do i bring it further back? Or leave it there? 

Thanks. 
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2018, 06:18:02 PM »
Hi Mike.

It's not that small.

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What do you think of the winch position? Do i bring it further back? Or leave it there?
No no, i was busting your stones, you said "liteul progress" which i assume is a real frenchified spelling of "little."  
Id keep it where it is if thats convenient for setting up of controls, access to oil draina and grease zerks etc etc.  Your logs are the rear end weight so the rest you want kinda forward to keep the wheelies down.  Only time nose heavy will hurt is backing up hill.  But you could winch backward up hill if needed.  
I would put 2 rollers on your fairlead tower, like ladder rungs.  One high and one as low as the cable can go without rubbing frame.  The high lead puts max lift on the log but it also tries the hardest to wheelie the truck.  This is greatly reduces by pulling low.  On my tractor and quad i had 3 points, hi, medium and right off the ground.  The lowest point was stablest and most powerful winching point in each case.  I could winch stuff in that i couldnt drag by tires engaging the dirt.


Lawn tractor rims make a pretty good fairlead roller.  Big radius, you can pull chain or tackle right up over them and the flanges keep it in the trough. 
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2018, 01:20:11 PM »
Hello everybody. 

Well, daft question, how thick is the metal backing band on usual band brake winches? 

Because that seems the simpler way. Grind the metal stubs, and use the band brake. 

Thanks. 

Max. 
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2018, 06:07:34 PM »
Hi everybody!

I've got craving, bad case of GAS 

I want one of these. 

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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2018, 08:39:28 AM »
that sure looks nice, but i think with just some medium size logs on there it will be to light and lift front tires and loose steering
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2018, 08:43:18 AM »
My buddy TJ runs a 3pt grapple.  I think he said this was 30 some foot.  A loader makes a huge difference, as does getting a scoop of ballast in it.

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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2018, 10:08:09 AM »
Thanks guys. 

Teakwood, i won't lift the whole tree, but just pull. The trick to keep the trunk clean, keep the branches on. 

Mike, you've seen the architecture of my thing.  I wouldn't have the grapple that close to the wheels. And also. Most of the weight of this machine is in the front. So may be it would act more as a counterweight. 
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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2018, 01:03:40 PM »
My buddy TJ runs a 3pt grapple.  I think he said this was 30 some foot.  A loader makes a huge difference, as does getting a scoop of ballast in it.

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:o :o you definitively convinced me mike! 
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2018, 05:27:23 PM »
Yeah, front heavy is important in a skidder.  With many tons of weight on the rear tires, and lugs the size of your arm, spinning wont be possible sometimes so naturally a wheelie or a broken component comes next. 


I just looked back at my text.  He said its a 24" bar and a 35 to 40ft stem.  Successfully pulled it to the landing, flat ground.  Id say thats maxed out for sure.  
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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2018, 03:57:02 PM »
I have started to work on the flanged yoke on the transfer case side. 

But for the other side. I am kind of stumped. The 1.5 inch six splines on the winch side bothers me. 

I don't know what to do with it. 

Get it out, shave the splines, weld a 1 3/8 adapter. Go for a 1 3/4? Get a splined sleeve machined? 

Well, i'm having a faith crisis, lack of faith in my skills and my resolution. 
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« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2018, 03:49:13 PM »
 ;D



Stumped!
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Re: After the sanity check!
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2018, 11:02:38 PM »
Do you plan to skid logs up that hill!?  
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2018, 05:27:33 AM »
Not really. 

This is an access road. We haven't had any logging down there for a while, may be ten years. Or more. I have two trees above, which i need to get. But not without the winch. But this is a simple path, we get far more complicated skidding trails. 
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2018, 08:34:36 AM »
Oh boy.  Roll cage time.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2018, 11:21:25 AM »
X2. Wow. What were you doing there?? did you slide of the trail?
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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2018, 02:51:56 PM »
What were you doing there?? 
He was thinking about how to build a tilt cab and chained up bogies!
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« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2018, 04:43:07 PM »
X2. Wow. What were you doing there?? did you slide of the trail?
Thanks a lot for your replies guys. 
Yep Mike, roll cage time one of those days. Teakwood, this was a looney trip. Going up there just for fun, with a friend. See if we could, as the trail is narrow. Thankfully, we hadn't boozed. 
Since the wheels are all directional, i wanted to go back to the right of the track, and obviously, the back of the thing went to the left, into the grass, and it's steep, try to get back on the road, and the back was going more and more on the grass,front axle went on some brush stumps, and lifted the front right tire. the left one going in the incline. The cab was leaning against some carpinus brush. Only thing i had, was the cable; so i did a sort of pendulum slide with it, between two trees, so i could back safely, this is what the video shows. Well, we didn't have to call anybody for help. Which is a good thing. 
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