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Started by DeerMeadowFarm, October 17, 2016, 09:26:15 AM

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Kbeitz

I seen a spark plug adapter and a grease gun get the job done.
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Bark Beetle

My super a drug most of the logs for the framing of our house
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DeerMeadowFarm

Pulled the starter last night. Looks too rusty to be just condensation:

 



 

Pulled the valve cover and there is zero rust on any of the bolts up there. Drained the radiator and it was full but only tested to be good to 5 degrees.

Pulled the bottom off the air cleaner and it was full of water. We freed up one of the hydraulic valves but the other one is still stuck.

We scoped the cylinders and they appear ok; some light rust but probably will clean up with a hone. Just have to try to get it free. My FIL has a few more tricks up his sleeves...we'll see....

My FIL thinks the tractor was submerged or in a flood at some point but the farm I got it from didn't have a pond that I could see and the woman said when it wouldn't start it was pushed under the overhang of the barn and tarped. It got snowed and rained on but she says that's it. My FIL is calling BS to the story...

Main thing is to get it free and go from there. On a good note, my FIL pointed out that the rear wheel weight I have is worth "gold" according to him. There is a large weight on the inside of the wheel that I hadn't noticed before. He said in all his years, he thinks that this is the 2nd or 3rd one he's ever seen.

thecfarm

I am not a fan of tarps. The tarp could have got worn and allowed water into the motor.
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Gearbox

That starter looks normal for one that has sat for a while . If it was stored in a steel building they will sweat and rust .
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timberlinetree

Still deal of the century! Looks like flooding to me,but have not been around flood stuff to much though.Little work and will come back to life. Might have to buy some BLUE CREEPER. Nice tractor!
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gspren

Quote from: timberlinetree on October 21, 2016, 05:38:21 AM
Still deal of the century! Looks like flooding to me,but have not been around flood stuff to much though.Little work and will come back to life. Might have to buy some BLUE CREEPER. Nice tractor!
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DeerMeadowFarm

Quote from: gspren on October 21, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
  Anybody that messes around with old iron should look at the new metal squirt can from BLUE CREEPER. Ever since I got a can for testing I've been using it where I used aerosol oils in the past, much better results with BC!
I am working on getting some. I have a connection that will get some for me next week.  ;D

Ljohnsaw

There is a telltale clue with flooding.  Silt or sand.  If neither are present, it was not in a flood!  Unless you washed out the starter, I don't think this tractor was in a flood.
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chevytaHOE5674

Doesn't look like a flood to me either. Looks like years of condensation, rust and crude built up in the flywheel and starter, which from all the old sitting tractors I've torn down seems pretty common. Seems to be much more prevalent when there is a mouse nest in there.

Okrafarmer

From what I've been told, the Super A design was very little changed straight through the Model 140. The 140 looked different in the grill, but was essentially the same machine as far as I know. So were the 100 and 130 in between. All these are still used here in SC for cultivating in the vegetable farms. They were real popular here, along with AC C, CA, and G.
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Ox

I don't see signs of a nest, but that kinda rust looks like rodent urine damage.  That stuff is well known to be the smelliest, most corrosive stuff on the planet.  ::)
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Plankton

Awesome Score! Old farmalls are tough/impossible to kill. I have an M and a H on my farm. Tough old girls.

One possibility is if the coolant only tested down to 5 degrees and its seized and rusty could it have had a headgasket leak/cracked block and have gotten hydrolocked at somepoint and sat with the water in the cylinders etc?

I guess the coolant was full so that theory doesnt really work, did the oil look clean?

Nice find anyway though!

DeerMeadowFarm

The news isn't good. Lots of rust inside. 2 gallons of water came out when we drained the oil. Engine is sleeved so in theory it can be rebuilt but who knows if the block is cracked? Need to do some hard thinking here....

Ox

Ooh.   :o  Not the best news.  Everything can be brought back with enough time and money, though. 

I bid $150.   ;) :)
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

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