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Title: safety helmet
Post by: DaveP on July 09, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
     Just wondering what brand of hard hat everyone is using.  I have had a Peltor for a few years and have had problems with ear muffs.  Where they snap into the helmet the plastic breaks and the muffs fall off.  I have tried epoxy and that last for a short time.
      What would be a good replacement?
    
           Davep


Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: celliott on July 09, 2018, 08:09:43 PM
I like my husqvarna technical helmet. Had to order it in, not sure if itís available in the states now or not. But very comfortable and I especially like the visor.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Novascotiamill on July 09, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
I use the stihl brand,the earmuffs have held up so far for me,about 8 months now but the visor is a piece of crap cheap plastic fittings on it. Im only using it on the tractor,using the mill and of course when im running the power saw . I dont like the disposable ear plugs.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Southside logger on July 09, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
I use a Husky combo helmet, they work well. Took a widowmaker once with one, maybe 2" diameter, the suspension collapsed and I still got a concussion but without it I would not be typing this. 
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Skeans1 on July 10, 2018, 04:46:56 AM
I use a skull bucket I told a widow maker that crushed the hat knocked me for a small loop but it saved my butt. I wouldnít consider anything that isnít full brim it keeps the rain and snow off your neck the only thing you east coast guys wouldnít like thereís no ear muffs for them.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Tin Horse on July 10, 2018, 07:41:17 AM
I've tried most types but last year ordered a Phanner Protos helmut. Forest model. They come in a wide range of configurations. I wear it daily and will never go back to anything else. The comfort,design and options are many. Every aspect is removable, adjustable and replaceable. I got the ear muffs, visor and tinted safety glasses. 
Right now I'm building my shop and works great for that also. Just pop the visor off.
They are expensive though. However in the long run worth it for me.
It may also depend on how many hours a day you wear one.  
Good luck.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: John Mc on July 10, 2018, 07:39:37 PM
I like my husqvarna technical helmet. Had to order it in, not sure if itís available in the states now or not. But very comfortable and I especially like the visor.
I ordered a Husqvarna Technical Helmet a couple years ago - had to order from England, since no one in the US had them (it was odd - they had been here for less than a year, then dissappeared for a couple of years).

Love the helmet, the most comfortable one I've ever owned. However, when I first put it on, one of the ear muffs detached from the helmet. I put it back on, but it popped off every time I moved the muff off my ear. Brought it to a local dealer, who was able to get me a pair of replacement muffs under warranty. Replaced the offending muff and kept the other as a spare. Wore it half a dozen times, and the other muff started falling off. Replaced that one with the spare and have not had another problem (knock on wood) - but it has not seen a lot of use.

I am hoping the problem has been dealt with with with the replacement muffs. I'm curious if anyone else has had this problem.

It is now available from US vendors - though I've not found any of our Forestry Forum sponsors who carry it.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Greyhound on July 10, 2018, 08:40:50 PM
Petzel vertex vent
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: celliott on July 10, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
I like my husqvarna technical helmet. Had to order it in, not sure if itís available in the states now or not. But very comfortable and I especially like the visor.
I ordered a Husqvarna Technical Helmet a couple years ago - had to order from England, since no one in the US had them (it was odd - they had been here for less than a year, then dissappeared for a couple of years).

Love the helmet, the most comfortable one I've ever owned. However, when I first put it on, one of the ear muffs detached from the helmet. I put it back on, but it popped off every time I moved the muff off my ear. Brought it to a local dealer, who was able to get me a pair of replacement muffs under warranty. Replaced the offending muff and kept the other as a spare. Wore it half a dozen times, and the other muff started falling off. Replaced that one with the spare and have not had another problem (knock on wood) - but it has not seen a lot of use.

I am hoping the problem has been dealt with with with the replacement muffs. I'm curious if anyone else has had this problem.

It is now available from US vendors - though I've not found any of our Forestry Forum sponsors who carry it.
John, I wrote that post this morning and hadnít had any issues with my helmet. Used it today at work and the dang earmuff kept falling off. Fought it most of the day and finally got it fixed. Itís hard to describe but the metal tab that allows the muff to snap out and stay tight comes out of place near the top of the circle bit. It took quite a bit of force to get it back into place. Definitely not obvious. Took me awhile looking at it.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: John Mc on July 10, 2018, 10:45:53 PM
John, I wrote that post this morning and hadnít had any issues with my helmet. Used it today at work and the dang earmuff kept falling off. Fought it most of the day and finally got it fixed. Itís hard to describe but the metal tab that allows the muff to snap out and stay tight comes out of place near the top of the circle bit. It took quite a bit of force to get it back into place. Definitely not obvious. Took me awhile looking at it.
DanG! I didn't mean to jinx you.
I saved my old muffs. I'll take a look tomorrow to see if I can spot that.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: mike_belben on July 11, 2018, 07:55:01 AM
I also have a petzl climbers helmet with muffs and screen from baileys.  The screen has gotten a little mangled up over the years from mistreatment but its been pretty good.  Does the job. 
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Skeans1 on July 11, 2018, 08:31:23 AM
How often do you guys with plastic hard hats/helmets replace them?
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Southside logger on July 11, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
I do so annually - UV is a killer for sure. 
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Skeans1 on July 11, 2018, 08:58:56 AM
Have any of you tried aluminum or the tin hard hats?
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Plankton on July 11, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
I run a tin hat has saved my but multiple times with dents to prove it a few suspensions but the same hat. The only way to go in my opinion. I just use earplugs with it not as hot in the summer which is a bonus. Also keeps rain and snow out from your collar. I would look into getting one of those they were made in China for a spell but I think there made in America again? Could be wrong about that.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: BradMarks on July 11, 2018, 01:57:44 PM
Don't advertise the dents in a aluminum hard hat if you are a commercial enterprise. :o
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Southside logger on July 11, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
I knew of a guy that intentionally dented his hat to prove he was tough or something trying to claim that he had been made. After it happens to you for real it's not so funny any longer. 
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: John Mc on July 11, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
How often do you guys with plastic hard hats/helmets replace them?
The OSHA requirement is every 5 years or if it has taken a significant hit. Most of the loggers I know around here do follow that rule. Most landowners are not even aware the rule exists (not that OSHA rules apply to landowners anyway). I suppose it's not as much of an issue if a typical landowner goes over 5 years: One of the big factors in the longevity of the plastic helmets is UV exposure, and the typical landowner's helmet is not getting anything close to full-time use UV exposure.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: BradMarks on July 11, 2018, 05:39:51 PM
Yes. I was alluding to OSHA with regards to dents - it is a violation if caught.  But not for homeowner/personal use.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: lxskllr on July 11, 2018, 08:25:58 PM
I use the regular Husqvarna forestry helmet. I don't cut much, and got it primarily for the face shield. Haven't run into any deficiences that aren't inherent to the design. Sweat pours off me, largely due to the muffs I think. If I were doing it professionally, I'd probably ditch the muffs and go with ear plugs.

As to replacement... I use hard hats for work, and you can tell when it's time to replace. The plastic will flake and craze after awhile. Time for a new one then. For those, I like the MSA VGard with a vented crown. Vents don't help much, but it beats a blank.

Best thing you can do is keep them out of the sun when not in use. Store them in a bag, and not hanging in a truck window or something like that. I keep my vest and hat in a reusable grocery bag I found somewhere.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Novascotiamill on July 11, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
Just looked at my stihl branded lid and it is a peltor ,also has a crappy slide adjustor,think ill switch it out to a crank or twist adjustor and harness from my old work hard hat. My stihl is definately the homeowners version with no foam core
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: KyLogger on July 12, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
Skull Bucket tin hat here. Seven years and it has save me more than a few headaches. The double plating in the crown is worth every cent. I would be interested to see a puncture test with a spear of a widow maker on both and see how they hold up. I am probably wrong, but I do feel a lot better wearing metal than plastic. Just my two cents, others mileage may vary.

-Tom
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: DaveP on July 15, 2018, 08:29:13 AM
j     Does anyone use a Rockman helmet?
    

                 Davep
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: DaveP on July 15, 2018, 05:58:09 PM

                     Has anyone tried the Rockman Helmet?
                     
                        Davep
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Skeans1 on July 15, 2018, 06:01:43 PM
Iíve worn that style hard hat before and honestly I donít see how you guys trust them, Iíve had a concussion, bit off the tip of my tongue, and got lucky most of the limb hit my shoulder with a skull bucket before Iíd bet plastic would of let me be killed.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: John Mc on July 23, 2018, 02:33:20 PM
Yes. I was alluding to OSHA with regards to dents - it is a violation if caught.  But not for homeowner/personal use.
One of the things a hardhat gets its strength from is the arch shape. Once you have a dent in an aluminum hardhat, you no longer have an arch, and the resistance to further deformation from an impact is greatly reduced. OSHA frowns on dents for good reason. This is an instance where a homeowner would be well advised to follow OSHA's guidance.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: John Mc on July 23, 2018, 02:46:22 PM
I ordered a Husqvarna Technical Helmet a couple years ago - had to order from England, since no one in the US had them (it was odd - they had been here for less than a year, then disappeared for a couple of years).

Love the helmet, the most comfortable one I've ever owned. However, when I first put it on, one of the ear muffs detached from the helmet. I put it back on, but it popped off every time I moved the muff off my ear. Brought it to a local dealer, who was able to get me a pair of replacement muffs under warranty. Replaced the offending muff and kept the other as a spare. Wore it half a dozen times, and the other muff started falling off. Replaced that one with the spare and have not had another problem (knock on wood) - but it has not seen a lot of use.

I am hoping the problem has been dealt with with with the replacement muffs. I'm curious if anyone else has had this problem.

It is now available from US vendors - though I've not found any of our Forestry Forum sponsors who carry it.
John, I wrote that post this morning and hadnít had any issues with my helmet. Used it today at work and the dang earmuff kept falling off. Fought it most of the day and finally got it fixed. Itís hard to describe but the metal tab that allows the muff to snap out and stay tight comes out of place near the top of the circle bit. It took quite a bit of force to get it back into place. Definitely not obvious. Took me awhile looking at it.
Well, now that I have completely retired my old helmet and started using my Technical Forest Helmet regularly, the ear muff problem has resurfaced.
Can you describe what was out of place on your ear muff? I can't see anything that looks out on mine. I don't want to pull apart the other muff to compare and risk messing that one up.

On the bright side, I wrote Husqvarna about my problem. Described the original problem which was fixed under warranty. Told them the helmet has been used only 5 or 6 times since then, since I've been getting the last bit of use out of my old helmet. They asked for pictures, which I sent. You could see the helmet was in like-new condition. I was hoping for a replacement ear muff, but they are sending me a whole new helmet. Nice to see a company that stands behind their products - I purchased it over 1.5 years ago.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: OH logger on August 20, 2018, 08:20:32 PM
I bought the husky technical helmet and have only wore it one day but I like it real well so far. comfortable and the ear muffs do a better job then the peltors I said I would never go away from (they don't make "my" style any more).  it must be doin its job im still alive and no dumber than I was yesterday!! :) my only complaint is that when you snap the muff down on your ear it slams down. you kinda got hold it and lower it slow if you like your ear drums that is. ;D
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: Offthebeatenpath on August 25, 2018, 02:05:39 AM
I've used a bunch of different helmets over the years and rotate through a few based on what I'm doing. 

For trail work, I use a full brim skull bucket. I don't use it for saw work due to the lack of ear muffs.

When running equipment other than a skidder, I use an aluminum front brim with ear muffs.

When running saw/skidder, I use the Husky technical helmet. I like it well enough that I buy them for each of my long term employees. Ear muffs have been fine so far. For shorter term employees, I give them the Rockman helmets. They are fine, but lack the quality and comfort of the Husky technical hats. They are cheaper though.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: streem26 on August 25, 2018, 12:32:18 PM
Depends how much time you spend in it?  
However if you're going to spend all day in it, everyday drop the cash and get a Protos Integral from Pfanne and best ear muffs (https://flipboard.com/@bestgoodini/top-20-best-ear-muffs-v47epijby). Its really lightweight, has a good airflow and fits really comfy.
Title: Re: safety helmet
Post by: BargeMonkey on August 26, 2018, 02:53:57 AM

                     Has anyone tried the Rockman Helmet?
                    
                        Davep
 The helmet itself is ok, the visors dont last 5mins, the flip tabs are flimsy and break immediately.