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Title: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: OneWithWood on March 15, 2005, 11:59:32 AM
I am about to experience something I have never experiened before -  In a couple of weeks I will be taking delivery of a new 2005 F-350  8) 8) 8)
I had to order it new from the factory to get what I wanted.  It is a single cab, single rear axle, automatic trans, shift on the fly 4x4 with the trailer package, tow package, off-road package, XLT trim, A/C and 6cd in dash changer, powerstroke diesel, twin alternators and beefed up suspension.  Dark green with black trim.  I can't wait  :)
While dreaming of taking possession of this fine beast a couple of questions have popped into my head.  What is the real story on bed liners?  Do they really help protect or are they just another place to trap moisture?
What are your preferences for tool boxes?  I have always had the gull wing cross bed units, but never a new one so what would you look for?
What recommendations do you all have for bed-rails or other tie down points?
What is the one accessory on your truck you would not want to be without? 
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: jflytle on March 15, 2005, 12:29:12 PM
OWW,

I just got an 05 250 CC, SRW, PSD and went for the spray in bed liner. There are a number of firms that provide this coating, and I find that it holds up really well. The slide in bedliners tend to chaff the paint off the bed when they slip around.

One option can't live without, tub steps to help me get up into the cab. ;D

John
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Sprucegum on March 15, 2005, 12:35:16 PM
  Congratulations! Sounds like a real nice unit. I bought my first new truck last year ( 3/4 ton dodge with a cummins diesel & 6-speed standard)
  
  I tried no liner at all and immediately dented the box just by tossing in firewood. Now I have a sprayed-in rubber liner, brand name Line-ex, and it looks like a brand new truck again. When I toss wood in now it bounces instead of denting but I do use more caution with the tossing. It was about $500 Cdn to do an 8' box.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Paul_H on March 15, 2005, 12:38:51 PM
OWW,
Congrats on the new truck!

We always had steel boxes for our bush trucks and either sold the factory box locally or re-installed the box when we sold the truck.

Rebco Link (http://www.rebcotruckboxes.com/boxes.htm)

The truck I have now has a plastic liner that does protect the box but it is slippery and there is no provision for tie downs.I have seen some nice Aluminum liners with headache racks/tie downs and tool boxes,both wing type and regular chest type.They seem to stand up to abuse fairly well.

My favourite accessories are #1, coffee cup holder and #2, A/C
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: etat on March 15, 2005, 12:42:27 PM
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What is the one accessory on your truck you would not want to be without?


jflytle beat me to it. :)  Absolutely wouldn't want to do without em.  :)

I got a plastic bed liner in mine.  I don't know if it'll rust out under it or not but at least it keeps it from getting beat to death.

I put a aftermarket stainless steel grill on mine, (it just bolts to the outside of the other one) and makes it stand out a bit from the rest of em.

I like having a bug shield on it to help keep some of the buggers off of my windshield.  Had a chevy one time with a bug shield and it just directed the bugs and trash to the top of the cab and beat the paint off of it.  Haven't had a problem with the F250, 2000 model.

Gotta tell you though, the four wheel drive with the options you described is what I've got, and I ABSOLUTELY wouldn't want to be without it.  

Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: sprucebunny on March 15, 2005, 12:46:56 PM
Unless you are real tall, I'd start looking at side mount toolboxes.

I can't hardly see over the edge of new truck beds .

Shrimpbunny-the 5'6" small/ old truck owner ;D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Larry on March 15, 2005, 01:02:22 PM
Bought an almost identical truck in 97.  To DanG cheap to spring for a bedliner...gotís plenty of scratches but no rust.  Nephew bought a Dredge about the same time and went with one of those spray in liners.  Not a bit slick and has held up well.  Took the gull wing toolbox off my old truck and repainted it to match the new one.  Wish I had bought one of those stainless boxes instead.

Just a thought...I bought a rear bumper, receiver hitch, gooseneck hitch, and few other things from one of those after market truck places.  Had the bill sent to the dealer cause they get wholesale price on that stuff.  Paid the dealer and saved me couple hundred.

The boss is a little vertically challenged....when I first brought the truck home I mentioned getting some steps...she took it the wrong way and said no steps!  She still has to crawl and wrestle to get into the cab. :D ;D :D ;D

Hope ya enjoy that new beast as much as I have.  Best truck I have ever bought...still runs like new.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Stump Jumper on March 15, 2005, 01:12:41 PM
 8)  8) ;) :) what gear ratio ya gettin'? I've got the 4.10 and have towed way more than i should have  ::) ::) 33,600 lbs :o :o the truck pulled it nicely longer stoping distence required .Have fun with the new truck .

ps they will smoke tires i had to try it once. ;D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Dan_Shade on March 15, 2005, 01:27:13 PM
I have Line-X on my '04 F250, I really like it.  I've beat on it pretty good, and it seems to be holding up.

I had an air compressor made from a York A/C compressor on my old '80 GMC, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it under the hood with the 5.4 that I have.  My mile marker is pretty handy too :)

Gas to Deisel is no comparison, but I have 3.73's in mine, and really wish it had a 4.10 or lower. 

Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Norm on March 15, 2005, 01:39:51 PM
Wow nice truck Robert! I abuse the heck out of mine and it's still the best truck I've ever owned, the side steps are real nice as they do sit up pretty high. I don't have a bed liner but I think the spray on ones are the way to go if you want extra protection. I remember when I first got mine I tossed something big in and Patty goes "you're going to scratch that bed". Badge of honor for a farmer around here. ;D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: fstedy on March 15, 2005, 01:59:03 PM
I have a 1982 Chev K 20 that I restored. Had a Rhino Liner ( sprayed in, lifetime guarantee ) installed 4 years ago its great takes a LOT of ABUSE and keeps on ticking. Good luck with your new truck and get many years of good use out of it.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Bro. Noble on March 15, 2005, 02:27:31 PM
I was remarking to my wife recently that of the many options available on the newer rigs,  one of the few I would pay extra for is an adjustable lower back support.  Our old 84 bronco has one and it feels wonderful on my back while bouncing over rough roads.   I just wish the reverse worked in that DanG thing :D :D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Dana on March 15, 2005, 03:11:19 PM
Congratulations on the new truck! The one accessory I can'tdo without is an eight foot snowplow!
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: raycon on March 15, 2005, 03:23:27 PM
Sidemount locking boxes. Mount a ladder rack to the top of the boxes and a head ache rack in the front.
Its slick on a flatbed. Might be a little tall on your truck. I'll post a picture if I can find one.

Good luck with the truck.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: EZ on March 15, 2005, 05:49:54 PM
Bought the plastic bed liner for mine and hated it. Way to slippery, everything that I would throw in it always slid every where. Took it out and was going to get the spray in bed liner and my brother said he didnt like it cause it was slippery to. Bought a rubber bed matt and it works great.
Dont buy the plactic tool boxes, they sage in the middle.  ::)
Nice truck your getting there.
EZ
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: rebocardo on March 16, 2005, 12:30:45 AM
> What is the real story on bed liners?  Do they really help protect

Both products have their plus and minus.

I know from experience spray in liners are not good when you are dropping large heavy objects into the bed such as firewood, logs, and cinder blocks. I have dented wheel wells that way. If the truck was brand new and I was going to keep it a very long time, I might be tempted to go Line-X spray in and then a regular over the rail bed liner. You can get ones with a rough surface.

If you do not care about looks and have the change, get a walk in bed cap with barn doors! Very nice. Especially if you want to sit down and take a break or change out of muddy clothes etc. Shelves are nice.

> What are your preferences for tool boxes? 

Knapp, the ones that use your own padlock lying on its side set inside the box so bolt cutters can not be used.

> What recommendations do you all have for bed-rails or other tie down points?

Most of the products are for show or light duty. If anything, add some e-track.

> What is the one accessory on your truck you would not want to be without? 

Power steering, I am working on it ... :-D  After that A/C and good mirrors. In a climate that gets snow, I love heated mirrors.

Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Ironwood on March 16, 2005, 06:04:07 AM
  Well, my new truck is still at the Ford garage, F550, 4x4, XL, 4 door (kids)12' cab/chassis, Powerstroke...... I am still looking for the $51,000  I need to buy it!

  I spoke to a guy the other day that has 650,000 miles on his powerstroke. Engine has never been out of the thing. The only issue was injectors #3 and #5, as I guess they dont get as much lube? All the tranny and drive line are also original.  :o :o :o

  For  my 2 cents, Put heavy 4" x 4"angle around the perimeter of the top of the bed and weld lash points to that. Use torx drive counter sinking bolts to fasten it down to the bed, that way the top remains flush.

  Congrats, I will get mine someday( I am still too young to deserve a new truck like that).

                               Reid
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: bitternut on March 16, 2005, 07:45:23 AM
I have a 2002 Chevy 2500HD. I bought the Line-X spray in liner when the truck was brand new. I love it. I got the liner sprayed over the top rails and also the tailgate. I also added a heavy rubber pad from tractor supply that was on sale. I heat with wood and haul all of it with this truck. Box still looks brand new even though I throw a lot of wood into it. Would do the same thing if I were to get another truck. I might add that I also have a Extang cover that keeps the sun off the liner. The sun will fade the liner some what if left exposed but will not degrade it.

The truck you have ordered could probably use some nerf bars for getting in and out. I have had the cheap ones and would never buy them again since I live in the rust belt. I bought the Westin Platinum for this truck and they also look like new after 3 winters on them. The cheap ones would have rotted off by now.

These are the only accessories that I have personal experience with. Your pending truck purchase sounds like a real beauty. My advice is to get the best add-ons that you can. A truck like that deserves them.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: sawguy21 on March 16, 2005, 08:24:22 AM
Wish I could find change for a truck like that ;D I would not be without a bed liner either. My current truck came with a plastic one but it is a pain. Too Dang slippery. I am going Lin-ex or Rhino. My last truck had a plywood one which rotted out and the  box floor looks grim from the moisture trapped there.
For my use a cab high cap  works great and I cant have a truck without a travel mug holder. Oh and the CD player, my very first  8)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Darin on March 16, 2005, 01:56:32 PM
The one accessory  I will never do without is a winch. 4x4 just means that you can get farther from nowhere to get stuck.

Darin
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Roxie on March 16, 2005, 02:21:56 PM
OWW.....I am very happy for you, it's a great feeling to get that first ever new truck!  The one option that I really like about the new trucks is the feature that let's you flip those side view mirrors in and then back out to where you had them adjusted.  When you pull up to a drive up window or ATM machine, it makes life so much easier! 
Cowboy Bob's favorite feature is the lumbar support though.   :)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Minnesota_boy on March 16, 2005, 02:44:24 PM
I think the one accessory I can't do without is a seat, although a steering wheel ranks right up there too.

signed,
The guy who always buys old used trucks.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: ScottAR on March 16, 2005, 09:26:47 PM
I love the Carr brand cab steps on my 350 SRW.  I highly recomend air ride seats too.  Mine are courtesy of the previous owner.  CushionAir If I remember...  They're a little high but I'm sorta short at 5'10" so it works ok. 

Since I'm spending your money, get a winch as your gonna get stuck with that diesel up front, maybe in your front yard.... ask me how I know.... :D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: pep on March 16, 2005, 09:38:25 PM
I have a 2003 GMC Sierra 4 door.  The truck was customized by SVC, and it included a messaging drivers seat.  It has a timer that automatically shuts off after 15 minutes.  Also heated seats are great in winter, as is an auto start.

As far as bed rails , which I don't have, but I've seen a set of Putco's SS that have some heavy duty tie downs.

I'm also a fan of heated mirrors.

Pep
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: sawguy21 on March 16, 2005, 09:40:02 PM
4WD and a winch just means you are going an extra 50' before you need to be pulled out  And you will go that 50' because you can 8)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Haytrader on March 16, 2005, 09:48:56 PM
I know it depends on what you are useing the truck for.
Insurance here is cheaper if you have a flatbed. Most of us take the factory bed off and either sell it or put it up somewhere ( someone already mentioned this).
Then you can add under toolboxes, a headache rack, gooseneck coupler. side rails to tie to, etc.
Have you been a good nuff boy to deserve a truck like yer gettin?
  ;)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: OneWithWood on March 17, 2005, 08:42:30 AM
Thanks for all the great replies :)

A winch is definately on the to get list. I have a mile marker 11,500# on the old beater F250, which I am keeping for the excursions into the woods, firewood hauling, and all those beater truck chores.  I have not had good luck with the mile marker but I think that has more to do with the undersized power steering pump and the installation than the winch.  The one time I really needed it the engine quit - so I am thinking seriously about going back to a heavy duty electric unit - definately with a self aligning fair lead.  However, I have not ruled out another mile marker.  I know DanG swears by his.

Haytrader,
I can honestly say I have been a very good boy and richly deserve this toy :)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: ScottAR on March 17, 2005, 09:07:42 PM
What model is the old Ford?  I know napa and carquest have a kit to convert the ford pump to a saginaw pump, the "canned ham" style.  It's about $90 or so...  You'll probably have to get the old hand at the store to open a catalog and find the part#.  It comes with a bracket to mount the pump, a pump, and hoses and fittings to hook it up.  IMO, chevy PS pumps and alternators were the only things they got right.   ;) :D

Unless you have an old time parts place, the kid isn't gonna know what to do when you say catalog...   ::)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: Minnesota_boy on March 17, 2005, 10:31:33 PM
Another accessory I really like is a wide nylon strap for pulling the 4X4 and sawmill out when it won't go any further.  It seem faster to get a 4X4 tractor to hook up and pull me out than to stretch the winch cable the other 6" or 6' to reach the nearest tree.  I use a 4" wide strap and if the tractor driver takes it easy it won't break, and if he gets a little quick on the start, it won't break either.  8) 8)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: etat on March 18, 2005, 12:43:40 AM
I got an easy fix to keep stuff from sliding around in that plastic bed liner.  Have one tool box mounted. Keep one bucket of roofing Tar or Kool Patch for emergencies or simple repairs.  A couple of airlines.  Several boxes of one inch roofing nails and one box of one and three quarters inch roofing nails. A small air compressor.  One small estimate ladder that will slide under the toolbox and over the tailgate and a strap to hold it down.  Usually a bundle or two or pieces of a bundles, assorted colors for repair work.  Maybe a few rolls of ridge vent as needed.  Other assorted supplies as needed on a daily basis.  A long wheel base is a absolute necessity.  I had a heck of a time even finding a extended cab long wheelbase with  single rear wheels  3/4 ton. In my case the single rear Axel is a necessity for pulling a trailer in and around trees or landscaping or close to a house.  I've seen more than one fender cracked or knocked off on a dual tire rear end. Anyway,   Stuff will NOT move around in that bed but you have to rearrange things pretty often.  Mostly daily.  :)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: OneWithWood on March 18, 2005, 08:02:21 AM
Scott, the old Ford is a '86 F250.  When I start making payments on the new one I will be hard pressed to put anymore than gas in the old one  :D

M_boy, I carry two 12' nylon tow straps that I use as you suggest and to wrap around trees so I can attach the winch hook without damage to the tree.

Only two weeks to go until I take delivery - I hope  8)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck bed liners and other ?s
Post by: dewwood on March 18, 2005, 09:23:05 AM
OWW,

Congratulations on the new truck it sounds like a real nice one.  You did not state if this was a Sunday go to meeting truck or a work truck, I assume it is a work truck.  For a work truck I like the flatbed as mentioned above.  It offers much more flexibility, you can put underbed toolboxes on them and add any type of hitch arrangement you want but the most important thing is you can load and unload lumber with a loader or forklift.  You can also use it as a combination unit to pull a trailer and increase the size of your payload.  For the type of operation you have it would be real handy.  If you go with a flatbed most truck places that install them can also do the toolboxes and hitches.

The only drawback  :) to that is the boss might not want to go for rides or trips in a work truck.

Anyway have fun with the new big boy tool.

Dewey