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Title: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 01, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
Rain today so I thought you all would like to see this job. when I got to the job today I saw this :D :D :D A few logs all ln a row. so I set the mill up.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2409.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2408.JPG) The customer gave me the cut list and I started. the customer did a good job to line up the logs, but sometimes they get out of alignment . so I made a log mover for my self.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2410.JPG) It will work with any mill. just some 5" wheels and angle iron. the limbs are cut flush to the tree. I just roll the log up on it, I have 4"x4"x4' in front of it.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2412.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2413.JPG) just push the log sideways and your all lined up. will work with biger logs to.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2413.JPG) I use it all the time. it was hot to day so the umbrella came out today not to burn my but.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2414.JPG) and at the end of the day I blow off the mill. I have a aircompressor that I bring with me.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2416.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2419.JPG) I like to use a small tip, so I can get in all those small places. I like to blow out the filter too

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2417.JPG) and then cover the mill and go home :D I made a small dent in the pile. ill go back wednesday

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2420.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2421.JPG)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Norm on May 01, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Now that's a big job! Cool idea on the log mover too!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 01, 2012, 09:00:53 AM
That is a nice whack of logs and a very good idea on the log mover/aligner.

What dimensions of lumber are you sawing?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bandmiller2 on May 01, 2012, 09:24:59 AM
Pete,good idea on that log evener,we just used the roller toe boards but only works if your on them. Frank C.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ladylake on May 01, 2012, 09:56:42 AM

 A tapered slab in the middle of the logs lets you steer it easy as you roll it also, looks like a week or so of cutting  , might have to move the mill closer to pile after a coulple of days.  Steve
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: dblair on May 01, 2012, 10:28:05 AM
I like that log aligner . Nice whack of logs also.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 01, 2012, 10:39:14 AM
I like for the log pile to be at least 10' from the sawmill so I can adjust them with a 4"X4" as Steve suggested above.

I do have roller toe boards, but whatever method that you use, it is far easier to always have the log adjusted before it is loaded onto the sawmill.

Most times for minor adjustments on 8' logs, I roll it back onto the loader pulling the long end first and then back onto the sawmill pushing the long end first.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 01, 2012, 10:53:12 AM
A good idea. What kind of wood? Rain here today too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 01, 2012, 11:03:18 AM
Great Whack O Logs Peter!

I like the idea of the "log shifter", must save a lot of hastle.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: markd on May 01, 2012, 11:40:02 AM
Peter, looks like you have a good system workin for you there, good job! Markd
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 01, 2012, 12:17:57 PM
All the wood is w pine and hemlock. the cut list is for a 24x50 barn. the customer had me cut some dry wood for the sticking. my wood, he did not want to use green wood. and yes ill have to move the mill in. I do use a tapered slab to steer the logs. but the log shifter has been a good thing to get them lined up a big help to me. the next job is just as big and the phone is ringing off the hook with lumber orders.  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Al_Smith on May 01, 2012, 12:43:44 PM
Clever idea .Egads you'll have a pile of saw dust before that job is done no doubt .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: cutterboy on May 01, 2012, 09:50:35 PM
What a beautiful sight! All those logs lined up nice and pretty. Looks like you'll be busy for awhile. I love your log shifter.....very clever. Hey, and thanks for all the pictures.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on May 01, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
I just finished my first portable job, and I was running into the misalignment issue. I like Peter's solution, I was thinking a small arch would be slick too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 01, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
It does not get a lot better than that.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 02, 2012, 07:51:58 AM
I agree WDH, that is a dream job for sure.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 02, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
well I got at the job today and all the sawdust was gone and all the slabs . so I got out the atf and painted all the parts on the mill that move. :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2423.JPG) fuel up sharp blade and here I go :D well the log shifter is not perfict the hook on the mill will get it sometimes

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2426.JPG)  on the cut list are some beams. the WM will cut nice and square but I check, I have a small square that I keep by my feet on the chair.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2428.JPG) but sometimes I over clamp. so I will shave the cant so its square

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2429.JPG) I keep a pv on each side ov the log pile I think you can see them in the pic

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2432.JPG) when im cutting I have to look out for the outside wheel the sawdust will get in there and stop it from turning :o

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2430.JPG) .all and all to day went well. maybe after thursday ill have to move in. 2 days and I think im half way maybe :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2434.JPG)  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 02, 2012, 10:28:53 PM
That pile looks like it keeps getting bigger.  Maybe the wood nymphs are secretly adding to it at night after you leave.  You may never get finished  :D.  It could be the Hotel California of logs  ;).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JohnM on May 03, 2012, 10:27:53 AM
That pile looks like it keeps getting bigger.  Maybe the wood nymphs are secretly adding to it at night after you leave.  You may never get finished  :D.  It could be the Hotel California of logs  ;).
well I gut at the job today and all the sawdust was gone and all the slabs too.

The nymphs take the slabs and dust, glue up 'logs' and put them on the end of the pile. ;D :D

JM
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 03, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Nymphs are like that  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: customsawyer on May 03, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
If you didn't have it all under control I would offer to come and help. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 03, 2012, 11:11:34 PM
Thanks costomsawyer  :D  things are going good, but today it rained well a drizzlr. made some wet sawdust :D  to much work ahead to take a day off. :D I have logs to cut at home and under a roof, and only one mill :D  I dont want to pull the mill back and fourth. so I though if I leave 40 at the barn and tied to the 24' ex  I could cut while its raining and leave the new 50 at the job all covered up and I could stay dry :D :D I had to cleen up my sawdust this moring, just to tired yesterday

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2435.JPG) you guys are right the other log pile is growing :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2439.JPG)  I caught the arm with a pice of stking and bent it ,when I bent it back  :o

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2441.JPG) it broke :D :D :D :D :D i did it before ill fix it again... I think its time to move the mill up for fridays cutting 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2438.JPG)  then bring it home to fix it and saw more logs , for a lumber order :D :D when I leave a job and kids live there I try to fix the logs so they dont move

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2440.JPG) I try. the costomer wants to buy some dry stikens

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2442.JPG) can do :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 04, 2012, 06:44:25 PM
Well to day it rained , went and got the mill, muddy :D got home and fix the arm

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2446.JPG) pant it black and done

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2447.JPG) well I had the welder out ;DI have wanted to do this for a while . I removed a  back stop off the 24' ex and put it on the mill

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2448.JPG) Because sometimes when I turn A long cant it will hit the stop and chip the beam

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2452.JPG) It should stop that from happening :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2450.JPG)  Boy dont that WM orange look purrrrrrty . look so good I allmost painted the hole mill :D :D :D :D that WM paint lays down well.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2451.JPG) the mill is ready to cut  :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2449.JPG) and the toys are in the barn 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2453.JPG)  :D :D :D :D I hope the sun comes out tomorrow
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 04, 2012, 07:48:45 PM
Good job.  I missed it before, but you are loaded up with Fine Adjust Outriggers too.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on May 04, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
I'm short of time- too many projects, and I was really stalling about getting to this job. Problem was, the fella kept growing the pile the longer I waited :D Normally I'd be overjoyed to have a nice whack of wood to saw, but the construction loan on our house is due in 2 months, and I have a long wayto go yet. In fact I shouldn't even be on the forum probably :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 06, 2012, 09:26:07 PM
Ya MM , when I ordered the 40 I got all the find adjust out riggers,but I had to make caps for them. they will loosen

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/2948/001%7E0.JPG) This works for me :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 06, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
So far, mine have not loosened.  Neither while sawing nor transporting.

They are very valuable options.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 10, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
If it will stop raining I could get the job done. so I have ben cutting orders. then I needed more logs, and the logger not cutting trees becouse of the rain :D :D :D :D sometimes you cant win :D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 13, 2012, 05:55:19 AM
Well rain on monday , tue, and wen. so I did cut sat and im going to cut today. im all most done. Ill bring the mill home today. I had some logs show up sat :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2461.JPG)  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: sigidi on May 13, 2012, 06:34:45 AM
I hear ya Peter!!!! If I see rain again before Christmas it will be too soon :( >:( ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: customsawyer on May 13, 2012, 09:33:29 AM
Great saw job. Thanks for posting. Wouldn't it be great if all customers understood how you need to have the logs. I hope you are enjoying this job because they don't come around very often.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 13, 2012, 04:47:18 PM
It has been nice watching that log pile grow smaller.  I hope that you take a picture of the lumber pile before you leave.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 13, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
I will take some pic of the lumber MM, but he has it all over the place :D  I put in 6 hrs today,rain tomorrow , tue and wen :D. he was saying something about some hemlock logs out in the woods. I don't know what ill find when I get back. When I looked at this job the logs were all over the place. Its when I got there that I saw all the logs in a pile. I have other jobs to get to, I did not think I would have this much wood I'm over 10,000 bf all ready :D and there's more. The next job I saw the 2 piles and there's 10,000 bf. And he wants me there now :D. I didn; t know the job was going to take this long. I can't find a strong back week mind tale man when you need one :D :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) now I'm going out to cut the grass that's a foot tall :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 13, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Your description is very vivid.  Many times I have left a job for the weekend and there were more when I returned Monday morning than at the beginning.  My present customer is skidding more logs this weekend, so I will see a surprise tomorrow morning.   :o

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 18, 2012, 06:41:18 AM
Well I got the job done.a LOT OF WOOD . now for the next one :D :DI would have been done last week but the rain. I think NH has all the rain that it needs for now :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2467.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2468.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2469.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2470.JPG) and the slab pile :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2472.JPG)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 18, 2012, 06:42:21 AM
Post 2  :D :D :D Im not :D :D good at this
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on May 18, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
Peter

Nice to see the end of a good size job. Thanks for the pics.

Hopefully your customer gets his lumber up off the ground so it can dry. That pile next to a building and tight to the ground will stay some wet. ;)

What is the intended use for the stickered lumber in piles?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 19, 2012, 08:05:44 AM
Looks like a nice ending to a nice saw job.  Thanks for the look around.  I am always glad to finish a job and move on to a new customer and new scenery.   :)

To me, that is the joy of being portable.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 23, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
When I got to the new job today I had to knock down the logs , a little hi  :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2473.JPG) Got set up and things went well. all w pine nice stuff :D I like to cut a lot of 2x4s at a time 8) 8) 8) 8)

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2479.JPG)  :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 23, 2012, 09:49:50 PM
Those look like full size 2x4's.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 23, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
I cut what the man wants :D Full 2x4 ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 28, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Well today went well. got a lot of wood cut. but some of the logs were not so good :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2482.JPG) this one I all most cut with a chansaw being a log snob that I am :D :D :D ;D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2484.JPG) But I did get 8- 1"x14"x 12' and some 1x8 too. When I got into the pile I found this

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2486.JPG) Two trees in one :D and I could not move it, so I use MM trick with the hook thing. and rolled it out 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2487.JPG) then I cut it off 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2488.JPG)  thats my 2" pipe PV:D :D :D hope to be done tuesday, I hope :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2483.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2481.JPG) Im not sure when the customer is going to stick his lumber. but best of luck to him  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jemclimber on May 29, 2012, 08:21:02 AM
Thanks for posting all of these pictures.  It helps a lot of us get our fix while we can't saw being tied up with other things. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 29, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
Your wellcome Jemclimber, I did get done today. But I have to go back for the mill . not far away maybe 10 miles the rain came so I just covered it. question, do you guys cut sticking on every job? and do you do for free or charge for them, I mean 1"x1" sticking not just the edging. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 29, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
That big pile of unstickered lumber is scary  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 30, 2012, 08:02:12 AM
do you guys cut sticking on every job? and do you do for free or charge for them, I mean 1"x1" sticking not just the edging. :D

I don't cut it unless they ask me to cut it. It is a question that I ask them when we discuss the job. If they say yes, then I charge them for doing it.
If they say no then I throw all the edgings into the slab pile and they can pull them out.

It all depends on what they are going to use the lumber for.

I advise them if it's high quality hardwood lumber that they're going to use for furniture that they shouldn't use green stickers.

But if it's just barn boards for a shed or barn then using green stickers may not matter to them. I let them know that they may get sticker stain or sticker shadow on the boards/lumber. If they don't care, I don't care.

I have also built a sticker cutting frame on site and laid the stickers into it and cut them with a chain saw so that we'll have stickers while off bearing the lumber from the mill. So that we can stack and stick as we go.

If they want me to stack and stick as we go, because they are not there to do it with me then I charge them for that as it takes away my time from sawing.

I usually make my stickers 1"x2"x4' as we usually are edging in 2" drops when cutting softwood. If I'm making 2by stock then I'll edge in 1" drops to make stickers.

Hope that helps.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: cutterboy on May 30, 2012, 06:35:41 PM
Peter, I really enjoyed all the pictures. I love your log of 2x4s. Thanks for sharing, I know it takes time.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 21, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
Well I went and cut some logs today. the farmer fed me logs and it went well.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2523.JPG)  I was eating lunch , I looked up, and some thing moved  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o wheres my gun :o :o :D :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2531.JPG)  wow now I have to get a good look :D :D :D  wheres the boys, I see you :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2524.JPG)  red deer all over . it was a good day sawing :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 21, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
Looked like much better logs this time.  I did not see any "trick" logs.   ;D

There is an exotic farm a few miles away.  I would love to ride through it and see what all they have.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on August 21, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
Never seen any like them, are they a native species? The antlers look more like what you'd see on reindeer in Finland or around there.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: customsawyer on August 22, 2012, 04:13:52 AM
This is one of the reasons I enjoy the portable milling. You never know what the next job will bring.
Great job on the milling.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 22, 2012, 05:53:01 AM
Delawhere Jack  the red deer I think come from europe . these deer are the ones that robinhood would shoot . the kings deer.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on August 22, 2012, 09:01:17 AM
The Red Stag is native to New Zeland.

I've watched many hunts for them on the Outdoor Channel.

Hey thanks for posting all of the pics Peter, keeps a good record of what you've been doing.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Leigh Family Farm on August 22, 2012, 04:50:22 PM
Thanks for the
Ice. Now I know what I'm REALLY getting myself into ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 22, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
I believe that red deer were imported into New Zealand.  There were no native large mammals there before the hand of man.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 22, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
I believe that red deer were imported into New Zealand.  There were no native large mammals there before the hand of man.

You been reading books again?  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 22, 2012, 08:41:48 PM
I have read more books than there are scleriform vessel elements in a sweetgum log  :D.

Actually, I got to visit on a logging benchmarking trip (work related  :)), and the local Foresters told me that the red deer were introduced, and now they are trying to thin them down as they compete with the native critters.  At the time that I was there, it was an open season on them. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on August 22, 2012, 09:10:35 PM
Nice job, I just hope this guy has the stickers ready to use. I always check on this first, especially with 10,000ft worth plus,  I will have the owner stack a few logs, straight ones, without knots, to cut out stickers, we cut them 42" long and pile them up. It does take a bit longer but the finish product is so much better. no double handling.  Still yet if the guy has this kind of money he can do what he  wishes.  Great job,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JustinW_NZ on August 23, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
I believe that red deer were imported into New Zealand.  There were no native large mammals there before the hand of man.

thats right.

And they do taste good!

cheers
Justin
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Ianab on August 23, 2012, 05:21:32 PM
I believe that red deer were imported into New Zealand.  There were no native large mammals there before the hand of man.

Bats and seals are the only native mammals of any kind. Everything else is introduced, and pretty much considered a pest if it's feral as there are no large natural predators either.

Ian
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 30, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
What a nice day today is. I went out to the mill today to cut some pine that I have in to 1"x21" 9'4" long. I know odd size, but look how nice it is :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2553.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2554.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2559.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2560.JPG)     and I got caught up on my wood turning blocks too. 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2555.JPG) And I do cut some odd thing, some people love em all cherry :D :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2557.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2556.JPG) and some fire place mantels  I use wax on the ends. so they don;t split :D :D  Did I say how nice a day it is :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on August 30, 2012, 02:04:47 PM
PD! very impressive! nice looking everthing. I just recently got into the wood turning blocks for a fellow that is doing this.  Not quite the stock you have, but the same technique.  Awsome work man,   love to see this, it is good for the mojo factor for sure,  you guys are a blessing.    david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 30, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
Wow, what a beautimous log!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Norm on August 31, 2012, 06:43:52 AM
Logs like that are what all of us sawyers dream of!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 31, 2012, 07:01:35 AM
I also like your "wood store".   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: grweldon on August 31, 2012, 01:50:19 PM
Wow!  My SYP is not nearly that big nor that round!  You go dude!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on August 31, 2012, 02:49:01 PM
  I use wax on the ends. so they don;t split :D :D  Did I say how nice a day it is :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


What kind of Wax do you use to seal the ends?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 31, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
Hi BB. I use whatever I can get :D :D :D :D ski wax candle wax parafin wax it all works I did try anchorseal , that stuff don;t work for me,I heat the wax in a can and pant it on the big wood. the small wood I dip them in a cookie sheet, the wax is like 1" deep ,  It works well for me :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 15, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
Well to day I went to the tunbridge fair in vermont, what a nice fair. the men from NY where there selling mills, all sizes :D and they had some blackwallnut for sale. they do what I do try to sell a little wood at the fair. coffee money :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2570.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2571.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2572.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2573.JPG) thats the new 38 horse yamar for the new 40 supper

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2575.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/005.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/006.JPG) And this is my friend yogi bear that came to see me we had a talk a bout the feeder. the bottom of the feeder is at 6'. he did say he will leave the honey bees alone :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 15, 2012, 03:59:12 PM
Hey Peter.....that's one of the prettiest pics I've seen in a while. All those Walnut slabs leaning up beside that ORANGE Wood-Mizer!


I'll bet ya'll had a good time. Nice pictures of Yogi!

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 16, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
Yes I did Postonlt40 It is a good fair . and that Yogi is a small one. we have a lot biger ones. In all the years I never had a problem with them. you see I have no dogs and all the wild life is allways in my yard. with or with out food :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 22, 2012, 08:19:06 PM
Another small job 5500 BF I get a lot of them. But this one the logs where old and the bark will come off and seem to get inbetween the cant and bed, I have to stop and clean out the bark out all the time. What a pain :D :D :D but I did get the job done day and a half

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2579.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2580.JPG)  but you know it was a nice day, a lot of sunshine :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on September 22, 2012, 08:28:13 PM
Nice, wish I had time to frame pics/ glad it is going that good for you. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Sawdust Lover on September 23, 2012, 10:24:52 PM
Do they still have the horse pulls at the Tunbridge fair? I remember going there as a kid with our horses. Dont remember seeing the sawmills.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 24, 2012, 06:16:59 AM
Hi sawdust lover. yes they do, and ox pull too. the mills have been there every time I go, but only WM is there. no outher mills I don;t know why, theres a big crowd there  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 24, 2012, 07:41:51 PM
Another nice day milling, small job 3 or 4k bf all w pine

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2583.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2582.JPG) All box wood :D :D things went well. then they brought some black cherry logs in , old ones :D :D will see how that gos :D :D they use john to bring them

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2585.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2584.JPG) there in the back and if you look good theres a b wallnut too. so the loger tells me not to leve tools behind thieves around :o :o :o well thats all I need to here. so now the extra work . Before I cover the mill I put a log on it pull the key 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2588.JPG) then I pulled the hich :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2589.JPG)  the mill had best be there tomorrow :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 24, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
Peter, If I came to your work site at night trying to steal something and saw your mill covered up like that.........

                            I'D SHOOT IT !

DanG thing looks like a Dinosaur.  :D eating out of a trash can.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 24, 2012, 09:42:09 PM
An Apatosaurus  :D.

Those cherry logs make me drool  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Tree Feller on September 24, 2012, 10:13:49 PM

Those cherry logs make me drool  :).

Yeah, I'm wiping slobber off the keyboard, too.   ;D

Is a skidder an awesome-looking machine or what?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 24, 2012, 10:18:27 PM
An awesome performing machine, too. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 25, 2012, 08:58:24 PM
Hi all I finish today 3840.0 BF I would have some pic but the kodak will not work , wife says to much sawdust in it :D :D :D so I pulled out the spare .I was to get some pics of the cherry so WDH could drool all over himself  :D :D :D ;D and Tree Feller can slobber more on his keyboard  :D :D  new job tomorrow :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 25, 2012, 09:13:26 PM
We really, really need pictures of that cherry lumber!

Please  ??? ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 25, 2012, 09:17:46 PM
Hi all I finish today 3840.0 BF I would have some pic but the kodak will not work , wife says to much sawdust in it :D :D :D so I pulled out the spare .I was to get some pics of the cherry so WDH could drool all over himself  :D :D :D ;D and Tree Feller can slobber more on his keyboard  :D :D  new job tomorrow :)

Southern people drool and slobber by nature. Lumber have nothing to do with it.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 25, 2012, 09:20:46 PM
How did you know that I was Southern?    :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 25, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Well WDH you do eat grits don;t ya :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 25, 2012, 09:27:36 PM
Well WDH you do eat grits don;t ya :D :D :D

This just in........another thread shot all to whale due to food.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 25, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
And to make it even worse, it was grits that did it  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on September 25, 2012, 10:15:59 PM


This just in........another thread shot all to whale due to food.  :D
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Well let get it back on topic.

just one log from another day cutting wood. All the video is shot with an Iphone 4S

http://vimeo.com/50118425

28 inch small end 14 foot long  knarly old aspen.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Tree Feller on September 26, 2012, 12:37:14 PM
Cool video, but...

Where's The Cherry???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 26, 2012, 07:46:43 PM
HI Tree Feller no pics of the cherry the camera died had to get a new one. but I did get some pics of the new job :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2592.JPG) small job, all w pine. had a time to setting the mill, I like it level :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2591.JPG) I started late 10 am, rain today. but it went well. got some wood cut. that fresh cut pine cuts like butter

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2593.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2594.JPG) this is how the guy piled the logs, to hi you have to be careful :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2590.JPG)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 26, 2012, 08:28:29 PM
Yeah, that could be a broke leg waiting to happen.  Or worse. 

You are a white-pine-cutting-rascal  ;D.  Also known as He-who-failed-to-take-pictures-of-the cherry  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Tree Feller on September 26, 2012, 08:49:09 PM
  Also known as He-who-failed-to-take-pictures-of-the cherry  :D.

Yeah, but the pics of the White Pine are very nice. Danny's right, though. You are one sawmillin' dood, Peter.   ;D

Cody
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on September 27, 2012, 06:43:44 AM
I wouldn't mind a "small job" like that now and then......but a lower log pile might keep me from going completely gray.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on September 27, 2012, 07:17:41 AM
Like the looks of those logs. Now the next job will have them every which way and spread all over the place.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 27, 2012, 07:21:10 AM
If you go ahead and knock them down, you won't have to worry about them hurting you.  Probably by the time that you read this, they will be sawn.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on September 27, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
I don't like a high pile of logs either.

Other than personal injury, they could fall and roll against the mill, then damage the hydraulics and put you out of business for a few days.

I always keep the pile knocked down whenever "visitors" (customer's kids, etc) come around, because kids love to climb on log piles.

Also, at the end of the day, we always roll logs to fill the area between the pile and the mill!  Sometimes it also helps to roll the logs up because we're sawing in a cow pasture and there is nothing any nosier than cattle, then they'll leave their mark right where you don't want it. smiley_bull_stomp
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 27, 2012, 07:44:15 PM
Hi all, well I did not get done today the guy wants to bring more logs in. So I left at 4. The logs will be there Monday :D 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2595.JPG)   all most maybe if I stay late :D  not :D I'm going to the deer field fair tomorrow, WM will be there 8) 8). I did cut some stikings for him so all the wood will be moved out of the way :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2597.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2596.JPG)    just some of the wood,  did I say I'm going to the FAIR and look at the new WM 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) maybe I'll get a LT50 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 27, 2012, 09:18:13 PM
You lucky dog  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 28, 2012, 06:06:53 PM
Hi all , A little wet today but thats ok :D went to the fair to see the new WM :D :D :D 8)

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2598.JPG) jeremy from NY a little wet but having fun

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2600.JPG) Ross from  main showing how to use a WM

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2610.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2609.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2608.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2607.JPG) All and all a good day even a turner mill was there 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2602.JPG) turner even had a fire wood processor there, all look good

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2603.JPG)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: SAWMILL BUDDY on September 28, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
What ? No LT 50
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 28, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
not yet sawmill buddy ;D I have more fairs to go to :D :D but there was a nice JD #60D excavator $ 70,000.oo, 7 ton , can move with a 1 ton and trailer  the JD excavator I have now is to big 44,000 lb :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 01, 2012, 06:38:31 PM
Hi all, well I thought it was going to rain but it did;t good thing I wanted to bring the mill home today to fill some orders. 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2612.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2613.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2614.JPG) I thought the guy did a nice job sticking his wood. But I would have put the wood higher off the ground, 4400 bf
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 01, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
Looks like that he has a lot more sticking to do  :).  That is a nice whack.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
Hi all, today I worked at home my favorite place to work :D and was making live edge siding like a clapboard

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2615.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2616.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2617.JPG) it goes good , but there is a trick to it :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 02, 2012, 09:26:58 PM
Please describe your technique.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: pineywoods on October 02, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Hey Danny he cheats. There's a woodmizer shingle/lapsiding fixture under that log...Pull a lever, saw a board, push the lever, saw another board.. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 02, 2012, 09:42:59 PM
Oh!  It is all done with mirrors  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2012, 10:32:44 PM
But try to get them all the same thickness. and as you go down the log the thing changes in width, and try to use all of the log, when you make a clapboard the cant is the same width , so you go down say 5/8 then 3/8 all the same . but not with a log ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 07, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
Hi all what a day at the fryeburg fair in maine. WM was there with some mills

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2620.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2619.JPG)                                                                                                   and there where outher mills there too.

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2621.JPG)                                                                                                  I think it was to cut short wood, to make box lumber :D                                                                                             

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2626.JPG) and a green one to

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2629.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2628.JPG)                                                                                                   But this is what I wanted ;D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2630.JPG)   but at $ 32.000.oo to much money I could buy a log truck for that. not the best one but one that could carry 4000' of logs :D :D and one of these

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2622.JPG)                                                                                             you know back in the day gypsys lived good and where good carpenters too :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2632.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2633.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2634.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2636.JPG) a good day all an all

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 07, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
Those were some interesting pictures that you shared.  Thanks for the look.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 08, 2012, 06:14:12 AM
Hi MM , ya just when I think I can make things out of wood like furniture , and look at the work the gypys did a 100 years ago all by hand. :o it;s a lost art, you don;t see work like that no more. have a good day MM
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 08, 2012, 07:39:08 AM
Like those Thomas mills.  ;D  I always spend alot of time on that side of the fair. Looks like they run out of room and put WM by the barns. We did not go to any fairs this year. I kinda miss going and looking at all of the stuff that I want.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 14, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
Hi all, A small job

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2668.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2669.JPG)                                                                                                   All pine and hemlock

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2671.JPG)                                                                                                    this one is nice

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2673.JPG)                                                                                                   3800 bf                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             I did stop to see how the big boys do it :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2667.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2652.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2653.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2651.JPG)                                                                                                  they have a few logs to cut, but the saw mill,  :o :o

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2655.JPG)    the debarker ring type nice job

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2656.JPG)                                                                                                   the old or the outher kind that will dig bark and wood, make a log round no matter what :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2662.JPG) log stop

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2659.JPG)                                                                                                   the SAW and top saw that log was going back and forth sooooo fast it made my eyes cross :D :D I talk to the sawyer . he said he started at 6 am. and had lunch at 12. I saw him at 2pm. he had cut 36000 bf by that time :o :o :D :D :D :D :D   

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2660.JPG)                 the edger with lasers :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2658.JPG)                                                                                                   and these men work there but off :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2663.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2664.JPG) the sorting table that was 100 yards long or better a lot of work                                                                                                         and they have a geade stake mill to but I ran out of time :D :D :D

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2665.JPG)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: TimGA on October 14, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
Peter,
         Thanks for all the great pictures. It appears you have done really well with your bissness since you went full time, hope it keeps growing.
                                      Tim
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 14, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
I liked seeing the commercial operation, but I loved seeing yours.  It is a pleasure seeing a whack of logs properly staged and ready for the WM.  I also see that you saw um and leave um.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on October 14, 2012, 09:25:30 AM
I like those mobile saw-jobs like your first photo Peter!

I usually go into a job looking at 1,500 - 4,000 bf worth of logs, and will usually expect to be there for one to four days, depending on just what the job entails!

Then, off to the next job.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 04, 2013, 06:47:20 AM
Well I got it all cut , the big cheery :D
 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2703.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCN2708.JPG)
had to start with a chansaw
 

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then find the blanks :D :D
heres one

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Ilike to trim the ends, so the wax will stay 0n
 

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some are 23"x26" 6 to 8" deep
some nice ones :D
 

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I hope you guys like the pics
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 04, 2013, 07:31:37 AM
Very beautiful wood, and about my favorite wood to work with.  Good stuff!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 04, 2013, 08:41:48 AM
Peter, I like the gig you made on your mill to hold your wood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on January 04, 2013, 09:00:41 AM
Very insperational! thanks man, awsome job, very proffesional work! 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 05, 2013, 08:11:23 PM
Ya Postonlt40HD
you will find that you will have to make a lot of jigs ,for thing that have to be cut.
 have fun :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 05, 2013, 07:29:53 PM
Well to day went well got to cut some 24' hemlock, the first one was junk. rotten in the middle, look good on the ends
 

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so I cut it in half for the chipper, I paid for that log now it's chips :D :D


the rest went good but you know how it gos broke a blade half way through a 24' cant
 

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When I cut beams I all ways look for square on the 2# face
 

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If I have to fix it thats the time to do it, well thats what I do :D :D ;)
then Im good
to take off the flinch I might have to cut it so ill mark it and cut it on the cant like this the 1" wood under the flinch so I don't hit it with the saw
 

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now to do all the flinchs with the edger :D :D

I did have a call for some slabs to make some maple syrup, can do :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 05, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
I've seen things like this happen in person before....somewhere.  :)

Good Pics Peter.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 28, 2013, 06:47:22 PM
Well sat and sun was fun spent the 2 days at
 

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I set the mill up and made some saw dust the old men came a runing they love that and some have there own mills too.
I sold a little wood and some grade stakes but got my name out there,
 

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people would stop and get a card and talk, It was a good time one man has a saw mill said he can only do 20', well I said I do 45', that man was so happy I though he was going to kiss me :D :D :D
see he has this job over by the big lake on a 2,m $ house to cut the beams, but there are a lot over 20' like 1/2 of them,
see he said the customer want's to use all the wood and stone from the land, a job like this money is not a problem,there not looking for the low bid.I think I got 5 jobs and maybe a big one, well see.
monday I going to a job with 7,000 + bf 10 miles from the house, Ill get some pics
 

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hows that for some red oak
I had to think out side the box on this one for my fence :D :D
 

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drill a 1" hole and pound in a grade stake, that me a square going in a round hole, ain't that true Jeff :D :D :D :D ;) don;t get mad just kidding :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 28, 2013, 06:53:59 PM
I love those road shows, and you have an excellent setup.  The is not much better way to spend a lazy day.   smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 29, 2013, 12:46:58 PM
It's a lot of work to set up and brake down, but fun, and Im wellcome to set up there anytime, for 0 $ to me outher than my time and logs and gas :D :D :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 29, 2013, 06:53:01 PM
The new job, well not quite what I thought I was going to see :D I had to put wood under the tires :o soft there
 

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some logs in a pile and some not :D
 

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the customer has to move some over
 

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and these I can't get to
 

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 :D :D do you see the size of this w pine tree I put the saw down so you can see the size of the thing
 

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there moving the logs with this, a baby one :D :D
 

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and the first log 16' has 475 bf in it
 

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My poor back :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 29, 2013, 07:20:36 PM
I say it looks like a nice whack.

Since it is drying out a bit here, I got another call yesterday and two today.  I just counted the list.  25   :o  Thankfully some are small.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 29, 2013, 08:37:58 PM
With 25 jobs thats a whack, and buy the time you get done there be 25 more :D :D Good for you MM and good luck 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on April 29, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
Peter,
 After seeing that log, my LT15 would have quit and just went back home without me  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 29, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
Some will never be sawed for various reasons.  I have watched staged logs rot on the ground because the landowner changed his mind, lost his health, or whatever.  My list seldom gets below about a dozen jobs of various sizes.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on April 29, 2013, 09:07:41 PM
I custom sawed some oak logs a week ago for a customer that has bought a lot of lumber from me.  I did it more as a favor.  After hitting a nail and several screws and ruining three blades, I decided that I will leave the custom sawing of yard trees to you professionals  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 29, 2013, 09:11:40 PM
Yeah, right, thanks.   :-\   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 29, 2013, 09:45:50 PM
Peter,I must be an old man too.  ;D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 29, 2013, 09:54:22 PM
Hey, no fair bringing age into the gitty-up-go picture.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 29, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
Hey, no fair bringing age into the gitty-up-go picture.   :D
at 69 MM you do well, Im 58 and hope I can still gitty, up at 69, thats why I have a chair on the mill when Im 100 , just set me in it and I cut and have a 50 something take the wood a way :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 30, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
Well to day started not good I put on a new WM blade and cut in the 475bf log and my cuts look like the ocean in a storm :D :D :D
so I slowed the blade down, well that helped but not good enough
so I put on a new blade 2# turn the log and cut, pulled the slab off and there was the ocean, now this log was not the best but come on I want a flat cut,over the years I have had new blades not work the way I want no big deal, so I am having a little fit, so put on a new blade 3# as I was backing up I hit pat for 1" then went forward but the head was not all the down to the next cut, so now I have the blade in the cant and the head going down, not good, so I backed up and that pulled the blade off
so I get blade 4#, all this in a 1/2 hr so Im putting on the 4# blade and I see the blade guard was loose  :o :o :o
what had happing is theres a small allen screw that fell out
 

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and this is where it gos
 

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the pic is after I got one from the hardware store, the thing was dulling the blade and taking out the set the first time around, it would get all cockeyed  :D :D :D smiley_dizzy

well after all that the mill cut like a champ
3500 bf more or less
now I have to go sharpen some blades :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on April 30, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
Next time if you leave more than a quarter for the wood nymphs, the set screw will not fall out.  Down here, the wood nymphs like grits (and Jim Beam, just not together ;D). 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 02, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
Peter:
I know exactly what you mean.

I didn't start my day off very well.
First or second cut, right into the log rest:

 

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I don't think I've ever bent teeth over this bad before.

And last cut of the day:

 

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Last cut of the day, because I've had enough fun for one day..... :'( :D

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 02, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
Hi Jim, ya some days  don;t go well
But to day I finish a job today 6,400 bf all but 200 bf was w pine
 

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the customer brought in the logs to me
 

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so line up was not bad :D :D
last night when I sharpen some blades I had 2 new ones that are junk when I hit the blade guide :D

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back of my truck with my junk :D :D :D
at lunch I pant my mill with ATF
 

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and that too
do any of you guys use the new debarker wheel it's 1/2 wide
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 05, 2013, 06:04:42 PM
Not yet, but I have seen the advertisement.  How does it do with smaller logs?  It seems like only the lower corner would hit, but of course if it is sharp it should still cut a path.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 05, 2013, 07:20:04 PM
Not yet, but I have seen the advertisement.  How does it do with smaller logs?  It seems like only the lower corner would hit, but of course if it is sharp it should still cut a path.
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with w pine it works ok but with hard wood ,you have to cut slower because the lower corner will hit, you have to give it time to dig in.
will see how it gos, and MM it will throw more bark in your face then the old one did :D :D :D :D so now I hold my head off to one side when I use the debarker :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 05, 2013, 08:19:57 PM
thinking about the newer de-barkers made me remember back when I was shopping for a mill, and the best thing going then was the ole log wizzard that hooked to chain saws!  sure glad we don't have this to worry about!  what a chore this must be to clean off logs, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 05, 2013, 09:58:40 PM
thinking about the newer de-barkers made me remember back when I was shopping for a mill, and the best thing going then was the ole log wizzard that hooked to chain saws!  sure glad we don't have this to worry about!  what a chore this must be to clean off logs, 


I had one and it worked good,  back in the day :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 05, 2013, 10:13:04 PM
Yea, I reckon they are better than nothing at all, but they scared me into the debarker option real quick!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 10, 2013, 06:44:12 PM
Well I got some butternut logs that a tree guy had got from some guys yard, and yes theres was some steel :D :D :D
 

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here are two I had 5
some are 2" planks and some are 4"x 14" wide
 

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and the steel , well I started but the steel was to deep :D
so I just cut it off ;D
 

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I found the steel with this
 

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The yellow thing :D :D
I had a pice that made a mantel too
 

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you don;t see a 6'x8"x16" butternut mantel at home depot :D :D :D :D
and the rest of the stuff I made turning blanks
 

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I use hot wax on everything
It was a good day sawing 8) 8) ;D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2013, 06:11:48 PM
A nice day to cut some wood, A small job with a lot of mud :D

 

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you can see the tire with wood under it :D
I got things going
 

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A slow start but thats ok, some days are like that :D
but when you work with logs things can happen,
 

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If not carefull they will get you, or role way off to one side then you have a fight :D :D
 

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I did get it down buy Letting it hit the outher logs to stop it and not hit the WM , but the line up was not that good
but my LOG MOVER work good
 

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the 3# log
 

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all lined up :D

would you all make a 4" one by out of this or toss it in the slab pile?
 

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I think I got 1/2 way or so Ill be there 2 more days, don;t want to kill myself :D :D
 

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I know Im the only one with an aircompressor on a job site :D :D but when im done I put ATF on some things , wet sawdust will rust things
 

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and On the debarker too
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 14, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
A pile of logs contains lots of potential energy and can be very dangerous. 

Looks like that you have things set up nice. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2013, 09:10:09 PM
Yes they can, I have to think when I go to use the metal detecter and put my back to the log pile  :o :o :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2013, 09:18:36 PM
And you have your mill shed set up nice too, but with all the wood your going to have to get #2 shed up soon  :D :D :D best of luck to you WDH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 14, 2013, 09:24:15 PM
As a matter of fact, I have been thinking about millshed #2  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 15, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
Nice day to day , then the thing :D :D

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what do you do with that :D :D
cut it :D
 

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I cut the hump and look :D :D :D :D :D
 

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From there I cut 1x12x10' some were 8' and I saved the short ones too :D I did ask the customer not to put it in the pile :D
 

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the hump he'll get it all :D :D all by the BF

When I make my piles I leave the first board out and put the length on it. and if the sawdust gets to high I can dig and know where to start counting the pile for the BF
 

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16 left done by noon maybe 1 :D :D

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rain at 4pm going home then to town meeting to night
to keep my tax DOWN :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 16, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
well got done to day 4700 bf, but I broke my mill :D

 

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the new debarker was biting hard and climbing up on the log ,and when it hit a limb stub it would jump out and bang back in to the log :o :o :o. way to much bite :D :D :D in this case biger is not better ;D ::)
well all fix now

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Iorn man wire feed works good
I have a customer in the morning with 7 or 800 bf of hard wood to do so I took the corners off to see how that works :D :D :D and yes WM will here all about it in the morning :D :D :D
 

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and if that don't work Ill put it on the cnc and make it like the old one :D :D I think it was 1/4 or 3/8 wide not the new 1/2"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bowman316 on May 17, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
ya know, it just seems like there is no easy way to cut large amounts of lumber.  I mean even if you have to top of the line professional saw mill,  you still are gonna burn thru 20 blades a day.  If your one of those mills that produces all of the 2 x 4s in home depot. 

I mean these high volume saw mills must be changing blades every 20 mins.  Seems like there should be a better way to keep a blade sharp longer. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 17, 2013, 07:07:52 AM
I wasn't aware that WM has come out with a 1/2" debarker blade.

Must take some "additional" power to run that especially if you have it really loaded!  :o

I like the 1/4" myself I have only adjusted mine up/dn maybe twice since I've had the mill.  I suppose if your debarker really takes a rap once in a while it may need realignment more often!

Nice saw-job Peter!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 17, 2013, 10:01:30 AM
I have the same mill as Peter, and in white pine I would only use 2-3 bands a day, unless I hit something. WM says 2 hours or 800 board feet for the .055" bands, so that's about right cutting boards. Because I work alone, I don't really pay attention to the hour part.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 17, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
I have the same mill as Peter, and in white pine I would only use 2-3 bands a day, unless I hit something. WM says 2 hours or 800 board feet for the .055" bands, so that's about right cutting boards. Because I work alone, I don't really pay attention to the hour part.

you cut 400' in an hr alone ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 17, 2013, 02:32:43 PM
More like 300. That's 2400 feet a day/3 bands. If I'm sawing 3.5 inch planking or 30' 10"x12"s, then I might saw a lot more in a day. This is stationary with a Lull or other forklift.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 17, 2013, 06:21:55 PM
What do you use 3.5 planking for, how much do you do of 1"  boards in a day, say w pine :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 17, 2013, 06:44:44 PM
The 3.5" planks were for Dutch barn threshing floors. I'm not sure what I would do an hour just sawing 1" boards as I'm usually cutting timbers, so the 1" or 5/4 is incidental to the main project.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 17, 2013, 07:01:12 PM
I do cut a lot of 2" and 1" ,some timbers too, the last job was all 1" x as wide as I could get some where 16",
It just seems like it takes for ever to cut 1" :D :D :D but some jobs are like that
working alone I could only cut 225 BF an hr,all 1", I think im getting old :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: GDinMaine on May 17, 2013, 07:30:26 PM
Peter you just made me feel a bit better. I was cutting all 4/4 yesterday and the best I could do was 180 bf/hr.  Granted I only had a handful of logs larger then 12" diameter and the max board width was specified as 12".  So I cut some 16" down to 8" and so on.  Also I'm quite a greenhorn at this.   :P 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 17, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
With the forklift I load one log at a time, and push the slabs onto the loading arms. Boards go on one pile, and flitches go on another. I keep the piles close to the hitch end of the mill. At the end of the day I scoop up the flitches and take them to the edger. I don't have to handle slabs by hand, and I don't have to roll logs. I cut a bunch of tulip last year, all 1", I think that was just over 300/hr.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 17, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
With the forklift I load one log at a time, and push the slabs onto the loading arms. Boards go on one pile, and flitches go on another. I keep the piles close to the hitch end of the mill. At the end of the day I scoop up the flitches and take them to the edger. I don't have to handle slabs by hand, and I don't have to roll logs. I cut a bunch of tulip last year, all 1", I think that was just over 300/hr.


When Im home I have John deer help me ,and use the WM edger but I was working in a  loggers landing, the pine was cut this past winter. when I go on a road job I just bring the mill. If I bring the john deer and the edger and the chipper I have to bring 3 or 4 men with me . then my 4700 bf job would be done in a day.  I would stay on the mill all day .and let the help move the wood :D :D :D

So for an old man working alone with just the mill 67.50 an hr to cut 1" lumber I though was not bad . I can shine at 2" and biger lumber  :D :D :D

I am trying to get off the road and have logs come here to me . It would be easer on me ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 21, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
Had a customer want some cookies out of hemlock, I told him they will split but he said that will be ok, all 5" tall
 

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70 of them :D

do any of you know what this is for
 

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 the bar is about 10lb and the tip is 2" or so wide and was made with the bend in it, and a T on the outher end
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JohnM on May 21, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
the bar is about 10lb and the tip is 2" or so wide and was made with the bend in it, and a T on the outher end

Was going to guess bark spud but now I'm thinking a lever/wedge/treefeller thingy? ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 21, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
It is an Offbearer Behavioral Control Device.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 21, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
 :D :D :D "OBCD"!  now thats' a good one ;D  I might be afraid the offbearer might get a hold of it before me! ;D   Everyday is a day of cutting something, if nothing more than through too much fat on a slab of bacon ;D  david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on May 22, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Looks like a slate bar. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 22, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
the guy that gave it to me said it was use on a railroad to move cars, but I don't think so a rr car is to much weight.
 I have use it to peel a log and it worked good but at 10lb you have to be in shape :D :D
But it could be a slate bar I don't know ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 22, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Was it on here someone was talking about putting a derailed train car back on the tracks with some sort of pry bar? This was only off the tracks a little,not 20 feet off the tracks. They claimed it did not take much effort to do it. Maybe I am thinking it happened that way????????
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bowman316 on May 23, 2013, 02:45:17 AM
Think about when your hooking up a wood chipper to a truck,  or a large trailer like that. 
It prob could move a RR car a few inches, to make it hitch up.  Like when your chipper is an inch off track from falling down on the ball.  just pry it over. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on May 26, 2013, 10:08:48 AM
My grandpa had one like that was a part of his tool kit when he was lineman on the CPR. If I remember right he said they used it to lift/pry the rails up to change out worn ties and then put the the steel plates on the new ties that the rails set on.

I think My dad still has that "crow bar".   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 26, 2013, 12:33:45 PM
thanks, that makes sense
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 28, 2013, 07:13:20 PM
started a small job to day. and the customer set it up nice
 

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I see one or two that have rot, the guy wants all 2"x12", 2"x6" and 8x8s all w pine, he said 5500 bf ,most are 16' logs, well see ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 28, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
That is a well staged whack.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 28, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
It being 2" lumber and 8" squares.....should be a good day.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 28, 2013, 10:38:33 PM
It being 2" lumber and 8" squares.....should be a good day.

there will be some 1" to make 8" squares and some of the log are not good to make 2", for the cut list he has I think he has to get more logs  :D :D
just got a call on a new job 6000 bf , rain tomorow but thats ok I have a customer coming to get 1500bf of lumber I have for him.
and have 3 cut list to price out. about time been a long winter  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2013, 07:42:43 PM
Cutting is going ok, but sometimes you find a barber chair log , It did not split all the way but It made the log junk :D
 

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I did this to show you how the log split, then I turned it
 

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but I think the splt went all over
 

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what to do ? I just cut in to 1"x 12". some I got 16' some 8'

at the end of today It was hot 90s and I did not have the giddyup to move the log up on my mill. so I use Magicmans trick :D :D
 

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 It work good thanks Magicman :D :D
then I was doing the count because the customer moves it at the end of the day but to day the danG  smiley_furious 2x6x16' fell over
 

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I hate that
well I think Ill be done friday maybe :D only 15 or so logs
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: loggah on May 31, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
Peter, Some hot out there today, i bet you wish you had a circus tent over you!!! snow 4 days ago and 90 degrees today,you did real well!! this weather is just crazy !!!! Don
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 31, 2013, 06:40:03 PM
Yes it was hot  but I got 2200bf done to day. the last of 6000 bf 3 days to do it

 

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some times I don't have room for all the wood :D :D
all and all it went good.

the wood 6000bf
 

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I have to do a cut list for a customer on monday then the next road job tuesday ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 17, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Some of you new guys have asked questions. On cutting logs this is a job I'm doing 4th time he's a good customer.see how I get the guy to put the logs not the best but they're one behind the other :)

 

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Some may say that the cut I made is a waste of time , but I lake to get rid of the bell

 

 

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And I can see that the log look level I drop 1" and cut my 4" face this is a 12' log .I did get a 1x6x8 out of it

 

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Then my 6" and on to whatever a  width you want
I try to get all the lumber in the log money in my wallet :D

Now this works for me  you're cutting might vary :D

Heres a tip for you guys that cut in hot days and want to wear shorts and don; t like sawdust in your boot :D
I cut the toe off some old socks and put them on before your boots

 

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Gaiters. and I do where 2 pairs of socks year round [ lite ones]
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 17, 2013, 09:57:38 PM
If I had white pine to cut, and if I could not cut it, I would want you to cut it  ;D.  Good stuff! 

Unfortunately, almost all our pine down here in the hot, humid, sweltering, South is yellow  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 21, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Today was one of those days :D I told him to put the logs somewhere else. but this will work :D


 

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these are bad logs small and crooked. :D :D all by the hr
and had 2 guys talling

 

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I think we have a ways to go :D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 21, 2013, 09:46:30 PM
A job came in today
 

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one of 3 for a timber frame all w pine
 

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then a load that I got for another customer came in  thats the 4th load this week.
 

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that last load had to be scaled, my wood, the wood for the timber frame is just the sawing rate .and yes thats the same truck. he hauls for a lot of loggers , young man thats not afraid to work,
 I might have to get some help :D :D :D  na
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on September 22, 2013, 08:01:30 AM
You may not get help, but you are gonna be busy.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 22, 2013, 11:35:09 AM
Looks like it's time to bolt that mill down and throw away the axle. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 22, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
I can't do that Dave , I have 3 on the road jobs with at least a truckload of logs each :D :D
2 weeks ago we had a little nip in the air and now I have all kinds of calls.
Where were they 6 weeks ago when I was just cutting hemlock and looking for the log truck to show up
But you have to take it when you can, and when the snow hits I'l be  cutting hemlock looking for a truck :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 07, 2013, 07:29:35 PM
A load came in
 

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one more to go for the timber frame :D
and also have to get the hemlock cut , have a load of hemlock coming in end of the week  :D
 

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I cut 24' beams today.

 

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the cumtomer don't want 24' one inch wood so I cut them on the cant just put a pice of wood under it and cut , two 12' :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 07, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
Two loads come in,one load goes out.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 07, 2013, 09:45:49 PM
it takes 3 loads to make one big load  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishpimp on October 07, 2013, 10:21:17 PM
Very nice Sawin there Pete. Nice logs too! U would prob laugh at some I saw!
Great to see success . Gonna set my goals at your level!!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 08, 2013, 07:09:40 AM
thanks, just do a good job and the work will come :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 24, 2013, 12:44:55 PM
Well a job showed up today.  I think a timber frame, I don't have a cut list yet  :D

 

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 I traded my little house away, the guys wife loves it
so I made him go up the ladder  ;D
 

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the pic was taking through a screen  :D I moved it 1 1/2 miles and set it up for him. hes a logger the trade was for one like  this
 

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 ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 24, 2013, 07:21:36 PM
Then this came in today too
 

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some ok logs and not so ok  :D
 I hope the work keeps up, and I keep up  :D will see
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 24, 2013, 07:26:58 PM
They forgot the limbs???? looks like wood for my OWB.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mad murdock on October 24, 2013, 07:47:48 PM
You need to patent that gaiter idea! Smart thinkin there! That last load had some nice butt logs, and some REAL knotty stuff, eh?  Good to see you're staying out of trouble 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 24, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
Was that the building that you had the stakes in? And you had more people ask about the building,than the stakes?  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 24, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
They forgot the limbs???? looks like wood for my OWB.


 :D :D :D yes indeed



Good to see you're staying out of trouble 8)


I do sleep well  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 24, 2013, 08:08:50 PM
Was that the building that you had the stakes in? And you had more people ask about the building,than the stakes?  :D


yes it is

 

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with a log load like I got I can make 50  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 24, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
I love to tell customers that "if they had taken one step closer to the log they would have gotten the limb sawed off".   :D  It's good for a laugh, and still gets the point across.   ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 26, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
In another post I posted this picture:

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And the other ends looked like this:

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I told the customer that these two huge rotten logs weren't worth fighting with to get only a few planks out of. So, he cut them up and split them here in my yard and hauled them out.

That left the four top sections off of these trees. Everyone of them had a crotch in them.

I cut the crotches off:

 

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And I set the crotches aside:

 

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Above is only one of the three.

I decided not to cut the crotch of one of them.

That leaves me with these three monsters to start sawing on today:

 

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It will certainly be "A Day Cutting Wood"......

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 26, 2013, 09:42:01 AM
My cedar pile looks like that.  :(  Not in size though.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 26, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
Sometimes you have to do what you have to Jim  :D :D
Best of luck with them my friend.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 26, 2013, 01:18:41 PM
First log on the mill:

 

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Just started cutting 2" x 12" x 10' 10" long planks for furniture. And the water bottle hose is leaking.

I've got to go to town and get a fitting to splice it back together. It's always something.

I can't wait till the customer gets here and he sees these planks. At 125 lbs each he's going to have a workout unloading them at his place.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 26, 2013, 07:46:49 PM
Jim how did you bend the loader arm, on a big log like that ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 27, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
Jim how did you bend the loader arm, on a big log like that ?
Plowing snow with the backhoe too close to the machine with the loader arm down.
And I didn't hit it that hard, I was really surprised when I saw it.
Now I put the loader arms up every time so I can clean out next to the mill.
Note to self, finish roof......

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2013, 04:40:14 PM
Both of my loader arms have looked like that.  One when I bought it and the other when I returned to saw one morning and the customer had decided to clean things up with his tractor/boxblade.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 27, 2013, 06:38:46 PM
Both of my loader arms have looked like that.  One when I bought it and the other when I returned to saw one morning and the customer had decided to clean things up with his tractor/boxblade.   :-\


If I do it it's one thing. If a customer did it I would lose my temper and tell him so then packup and leave. all the time, I have customers want to load or push the logs to or set logs on my mill. Or want to help change the blade, I tell them NO stay away. I allways tell them. If you hit my mill I will not understand. 
no one touches my mill, no one, ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on October 27, 2013, 07:42:20 PM

Have straitened mine a time or two.
When it comes time to replace them the old loading arm will go on the trailer.

I had a local customer with a single tree, he lives on top of a mountain, and has a locked gate at the bottom of a long, steep, winding drive, he rescheduled six times in the process of getting his logs together, rain, cat broke down ect.

When I done the site eval it was made clear that there was no turn around on the goat trail and that the mill would have to be backed in all the way up and around the hill to a small landing. It was also pointed out that a lower landing would be a much better location, just pull in and set up type location. He chose the upper landing and parked the backhoe and tractor on it making for a tight setup.

He had a nice 28’ log and was clear he needed four 20’ 3x12  He measured it off at 20’2” laid a piece of moss on the log, I was setting up the mill and noticed the log pinch his saw, I had a wedge in my hand so drove it in so he could retrieve his saw. When he stepped back we noticed he had made pair of 14’ logs. Felt bad for him as he danced around. He has more trees on the hill, just has to go thru the whole process of getting one ready again.

2 hours from gate to finish including set up and figuring out what to do with 14' logs. 

For some getting a tree ready to mill is a simple task to carry out, for others it can be a much bigger and time consuming challenge.




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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on October 27, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Only had one issue years ago with damage, not that bad, folks around here are sure not to interfere with the operation, regardless.    david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 27, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
Backwoods sawyer, I have had to do that before, back all the way in  :D
I see the wheel off the ground in the pic. I bring boards with me to drive up on to help level the mill. And have cut cookies to put under the legs too. Good job
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 27, 2013, 10:01:19 PM
Only had one issue years ago with damage, not that bad, folks around here are sure not to interfere with the operation, regardless.    david


 It's just the folks in NH can't stand around , they want to help , so I try to find them some to do , like go get more trees  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 27, 2013, 10:10:03 PM
I have also had to pull in, unhook and turn the sawmill around by hand.  It seems that virtually every setup is different.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 27, 2013, 10:37:34 PM
I have also had to pull in, unhook and turn the sawmill around by hand.  It seems that virtually every setup is different.


I have done that , one time the mill stared to roll away on me, I had to pull the cable for the electric brake to stop the mill  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 30, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
More of the timber frame getting cut , A lot of boards when you box the pith. some of the 8x9x24' came out of a 24" log [ top end]
I did cut the 1" into 2 12'


 

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the customer has been trucking wood out for days  smiley_sweat_drop :D :D :D

tomorrow all 12' logs. all 1" to whatever wide  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 30, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
You got'em trained?  :D Keep that stuff moving out the door. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 30, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
You got'em trained?  :D Keep that stuff moving out the door. :)


 :D :D :D :D I try
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 30, 2013, 08:27:01 PM
My millyard is tiny. If there is a flake of sawdust in the way everything grinds to a halt.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 30, 2013, 08:48:09 PM
My yard is full of logs , I fact [ my logs] I like to keep the length together now there all mixup :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 01, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
About those monster red oak logs I was sawing, here is a shot of some of the crotch grain in the first piece.

 

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Next came loading the biggest of all of them.

 

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The mill couldn't roll it over by itself. I had to give it a little help with the backhoe bucket:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larrys_second_log-2.JPG)

With the saw all the way to the top, I made the first cut:

 

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As you can see by the shadows this was early in the morning.

After I made the first cut I tried to make a second one to start cutting it down to size before I had to "Bibby" it.
But I forgot that the gas tank was about empty and I was suppose to fill it up before I started sawing.
So wouldn't you know it, 2/3 of the way through the second cut it runs out of gas. Now I can't back out of the cut and I can't reach the tank.
What a bone head thing to do.

I had to get the step ladder and go up there and get the tank down and put 1 gallon or so in it to get through the cut. And then I lowered it down to remove it and fill it up full.
I never did that before.

Here is some of the 2x12's that he wanted:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larrys_second_log-4.JPG)

He has hauled out two logs of lumber already and I have one more to cut up.
I cut the crotch off it today, and it's next to the mill ready to load. Got rained out several times today. Note to self, finish roof.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on November 01, 2013, 05:51:28 PM
Is that the roof in the background?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 01, 2013, 06:57:52 PM
Is that the roof in the background?

It was going to be, but most likely I'll have to take it all apart and start over. it sat too long unfinished.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 01, 2013, 07:56:17 PM
Good job with the monsters  8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Leigh Family Farm on November 04, 2013, 09:08:07 AM
Second note to self: check gas tank before starting to saw!  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 04, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
Second note to self: check gas tank before starting to saw!  :D :D ;)

I think I need to put that on a sticky note and onto the sawmill dashboard. I was just finished cutting the wedding box project on Saturday and the mill ran out of gas, again.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on November 06, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
Pretty nice looking stuff. ;D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 06, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
and the mill ran out of gas, again.   
Glad that you don't have a Diesel.   ;D  :D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on November 07, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
and the mill ran out of gas, again.   
Glad that you don't have a Diesel.   ;D  :D

I have run mine out of fuel a few times, just fill it up, squeeze the priming bulb a few times and she fires right up. surprising for a diesel but the same holds true for my tractor only it doesn't even need priming... I just turn it over and it fires... electric pump I think. both are 3 cylinder engines.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 07, 2013, 08:14:32 PM
The first time that I cranked my new replacement engine, I primed as per the instructions and it fired right up.  The old engine....no so.  It was just bad, and yes I did run it out of fuel....twice.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on November 07, 2013, 08:24:45 PM
Second note to self: check gas tank before starting to saw!  :D :D ;)

I think I need to put that on a sticky note and onto the sawmill dashboard. I was just finished cutting the wedding box project on Saturday and the mill ran out of gas, again.

Jim Rogers

Not a bad idea. I could put that one next to my note that says, "Did you lower the toe-boards,  ya' BONEHEAD?"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 14, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
Did you ever have an order to fill and be short some logs. ?
I did today so I went up to see one of my logger friends. I went to the landing an made 2 trips  :D

 

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This friend is well organized on the landing the bobcat works well and loads me.

 

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after that I was talking to a logger, and I made a deal to buy 200A of hemlock. he called it the black forest. thats how thick it is , not all hemlock it has w pine and hard wood too, It just has not been cut in a very long long time like 150+ years.I can't wate to see the logs. and the best part it's 1 mile away .
I will get some picks 1# load next week.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 14, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
I had a place like that. The tree,mostly hemlock was kinda stuck in time. They been the same size for years. Dead Cedar was leaned up against the trees,not much was growing under them. I went in there and cut some of them down. That will get something growing now.
Dew,my Log Dog,and me was checking it out and he cornered a porcupine. I headed back to the house for a gun. It had moved quite a bit when I got back,but he was still barking.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on November 14, 2013, 07:09:30 PM
Did you ever have an order to fill and be short some logs. ?
I did today so I went up to see one of my logger friends. I went to the landing an made 2 trips  :D

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCF0092.JPG)

This friend is well organized on the landing the bobcat works well and loads me.

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/DSCF0091.JPG)

after that I was talking to a logger, and I made a deal to buy 200A of hemlock. he called it the black forest. thats how thick it is , not all hemlock it has w pine and hard wood too, It just has not been cut in a very long long time like 150+ years.I can't wate to see the logs. and the best part it's 1 mile away .
I will get some picks 1# load next week.  8) 8) 8)
More than once, not a miss quote, but an additional requirement, thankfully a good friend is a logger with timber,  and its nice to pull up and load up when necessary.    david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 14, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
The call was for 14' wood I had some. And I hate 14' anything . No calls for it just once in a wile. Going to be 8x8  in a timber frame. Need 22 of them. Had 10. On the 2# load I had him fill the rest of the trailer with 16'
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JohnM on November 15, 2013, 10:15:55 AM
Hey Peter, I know you chip most of your slabs/waste.  Was curious, do you sell the chips?  And if so do you separate by species and/or soft/hardwood?  Who buys them?  Sorry for the random off topic. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 15, 2013, 08:24:08 PM
Hi John  smiley_wavy
I chip most or all the soft wood , for the hard wood I put it in a pile or bundle it for sale [fire wood] the chips sell slow but they do sell for landscaping. The power company that burns it will only give $20 a ton. And it's hard to get in there because of the mechanized loggers, they move a lot of wood chips and they have a contract with them. And the wood pellet guys only want hardwood chips. I'm always looking for a market. And no one is off topic on my threads  :D :D
I welcome all thoughts and opinion. :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 27, 2013, 12:42:55 PM
Pouring rain here today.

But yesterday, I cut some 22-24" wide slabs for bar tops 3" thick.

I got a customer who wanted a 30" piece with round edge on both sides. I talked him into two 15" pieces.

He's going to come over and pick out two of these and I'll put them one at a time back onto the mill with the round edge down and trim to 15" or so. And then he can join them and make his bar top.

These are 10' pieces and I think he said he only needed about 7' or so.

 

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They are the greatest quality but I think he can make them work.

Jim Rogers

PS, posted here because it was all in "a day of cutting wood"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 27, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
Species?  From the looks of those slabs, I do not believe that he will have any trouble meeting his needs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on November 27, 2013, 04:51:04 PM
Looks like EWP to me.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 27, 2013, 05:03:54 PM
Species?  From the looks of those slabs, I do not believe that he will have any trouble meeting his needs.

Yes, Eastern White Pine (EWP)

Thanks Dave....

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on November 27, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
They look wet and heavy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 27, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
Good job Jim , I get a call from time to time for slabs. But not one this year  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 27, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
They look wet and heavy.

They are wet today, it's been pouring rain here all day.

And they are heavy, I slid them off the log onto the forks so I didn't have to move them very far.
He didn't show up yet, probably because it was raining.
But maybe he'll come over Friday.

Jim Rogers

PS. I have been getting all kinds of calls for sawing up large logs. More this last one or two months then ever before.

I have been considering getting the largest CSM that they make, but I don't have the money right now.

I have these logs sitting waiting for me:

 

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They are around 42" on the small end of each. The customer is going to hire a guy I know to come over with his 36" bar chain saw and cut them into quarters first.

I suggested he cut them like this:

 

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Once they are quartered then I'll take the mill down there and cut up this city tree.

I scaled the 8' one at 664 bdft, and the 9'6" one at 789 bdft. Not counting any over run. And with the cracks and the quartering I don't expect to get much if any over run.

The butt of the bottom log has some rot in it and a small metal stain as well.

When, or should I say, if, I saw these up, I will take some pictures for sure.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 27, 2013, 08:38:48 PM
After their 1/4 down it should not be too bad to cut. Is that red oak ?
And what is a CSM ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 28, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
CSM,Chain Saw Mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on November 28, 2013, 02:56:23 PM
After their 1/4 down it should not be too bad to cut. Is that red oak ?
And what is a CSM ?

Yes, red oak. Biggest tree on Oakley Street. Half on town property half on customer's front lawn leaning over customer's house, more and more each year. Customer was very nervous about it falling on his house.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Cguignard on November 28, 2013, 05:09:32 PM
About those monster red oak logs I was sawing, here is a shot of some of the crotch grain in the first piece.

 

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Next came loading the biggest of all of them.

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larry_second_log-1.JPG)

The mill couldn't roll it over by itself. I had to give it a little help with the backhoe bucket:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larrys_second_log-2.JPG)

With the saw all the way to the top, I made the first cut:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larrys_second_log-3-first_cut.JPG)

As you can see by the shadows this was early in the morning.

After I made the first cut I tried to make a second one to start cutting it down to size before I had to "Bibby" it.
But I forgot that the gas tank was about empty and I was suppose to fill it up before I started sawing.
So wouldn't you know it, 2/3 of the way through the second cut it runs out of gas. Now I can't back out of the cut and I can't reach the tank.
What a bone head thing to do.

I had to get the step ladder and go up there and get the tank down and put 1 gallon or so in it to get through the cut. And then I lowered it down to remove it and fill it up full.
I never did that before.

Here is some of the 2x12's that he wanted:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Larrys_second_log-4.JPG)

He has hauled out two logs of lumber already and I have one more to cut up.
I cut the crotch off it today, and it's next to the mill ready to load. Got rained out several times today. Note to self, finish roof.

Jim Rogers
Some nice logs you are sawing, I might have missed this but what does bibby mean?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 28, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
I might have missed this but what does bibby mean?

Go to the top of the page….put your mouse arrow on extras……..a box will appear and then click on Dictionary.
Lots of good explanations in there.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on November 28, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
I might have missed this but what does bibby mean?

Go to the top of the page….put your mouse arrow on extras……..a box will appear and then click on Dictionary.
Lots of good explanations in there.  :)

     Poston, I don't believe it's in there.  (Ought to be, though!)
     Basically, bibbying (coined in honor of Bibbyman) is trimming an oversize log down to manageable size on the mill by rotating about 45 degrees per cut until it's small and even enough to handle it comfortably.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 28, 2013, 06:14:28 PM


     Poston, I don't believe it's in there.  (Ought to be, though!)
     Basically, bibbying (coined in honor of Bibbyman) is trimming an oversize log down to manageable size on the mill by rotating about 45 degrees per cut until it's small and even enough to handle it comfortably.

Good call Nomad, I checked and didn't see it either.  say_what
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Cguignard on November 29, 2013, 04:13:30 PM
That is a great idea, just added something to my bag of tricks. It beats cutting a grove for your guide weel with a chainsaw. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 29, 2013, 05:42:28 PM
 

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Here is a 42" butt.
 

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The bibbyed butt.
 

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This Cypress swell butt was 45"
 

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Bibbyed (gun barreled) down for sawing.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 29, 2013, 08:00:09 PM
45" is a lot  :o but the bibby thing works well  8)


I'm going to cut some wood but I half to get there first  ;D
 

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I bought a wood lot all hard wood. Tomorrow I'm going to haul gravel and fill for and aft.
I use 8x8"x16' and 8"x10"x16' for the beams and 2 by 6" and 8" decking 10' wide. All hemlock.
on the first pic the beams are on w oak and brick , I'm going to push gravel under it the hole thing will float.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on November 29, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
that looks like the beginning of my sharpening shed.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 29, 2013, 08:50:08 PM
Peter what a waste of good wood. I would of gladly sent you the rocks to do the same thing. I'm just a phone call away.  :D I'm an expert at that sort of rock bridge. I have one about 100 feet long. It even skidder,forwarder rated.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 29, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
I have all the rocks I need, the land has rock walls . I think there was an old homestead on it. When I have time I want to walk the walls with my metal detector.
I hope the bridge will hold the skidder. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on November 30, 2013, 08:41:41 AM
Peter, I just noticed what looks like a cinder block in the bottom right of the first picture. If I ever got caught using one of those for dunnage on a jobsite I would be run off post haste. Without mortar to hold them together they are very brittle. probably a lot easier to swap it for a piece of hardwood now, than later.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on November 30, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
rmack
Would you expand on that a bit?  Not sure what the message is and not sure what you call a "cinder" block.

Or why you would be "run off" a jobsite. 

Are you suggesting they will crumble and thus lose any support for that corner?  Just setting on dirt or mud, they may just be pushed down into the mud when the bridge is loaded. But they may just be spacers to hold the bridge up before the gravel is hauled in a tamped down under to hold the timbers up.  ??  Don't know.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 30, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
Quick Peter,replace it with a rock. Remember my offer,I'm just a phone call away.  :D
I would not trust that cider block for the moving weight of a skidder either.  For a building I would. I feel it will crumble too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on November 30, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
Quote
rmack
Would you expand on that a bit?  Not sure what the message is and not sure what you call a "cinder" block.

LONG LINK FIXED BY YOUR FRIENDLY ADMIN (https://www.google.ca/search?q=cinder+block&client=firefox-a&hs=IZ9&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pxCaUpvTKeL5igKC_4CABw&ved=0CEEQsAQ&biw=1206&bih=960&dpr=1)

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Or why you would be "run off" a jobsite. 

because they are deemed unsafe to use for dunnage, unsafe acts subject you to immediate terminate depending on severity, and they are getting stickier all the time. cinder blocks for dunnage has been unacceptable for a long time.

cinder blocks look a lot stronger than they actually are, they have an advantage over rocks in that they are symmetrical rectangles, but that's about it.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 30, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
R Mack you are right unsafe, but they're 4" solid blocks no holes.
it went well to day,
 

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It will hold a truck full of rock ;D
I think this might be a Christmas card  :D
 

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I did put some holes in it to let the rain through.
 

 
 

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It's like a race track now  :D ;D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on November 30, 2013, 08:03:32 PM
Good Job!  :)

I never built a bridge before.  :D

how many acres did you buy?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 30, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
Good job Peter.
And it is skidder rated.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on November 30, 2013, 09:14:02 PM
That is a nice shot of John on the bridge. Looking forward to seeing some big hitches going over it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 30, 2013, 09:25:04 PM
Good Job!  :)

I never built a bridge before.  :D

how many acres did you buy?

Small lot just under 10A. And the price was right, and the trees are good size. The week after next I'll have some pic of the logger I'm sending up there to make a landing and cut a road through it. I was told the last time it was cut was in the 40s. I bought it for firewood and some saw logs. I'm looking at a 20 A lot now.
A lot of big A lots are cut off , these small ones no one looks at are all over and for short money. Like this one It needs a bridge and no one wants or can do it. And now I have a land abutter wants  the first bid If I sell it. He came to my house and knock on the door. So you look for niche markets, I also look for niche land.  ;D




Good job Peter.
And it is skidder rated.

thanks and will see  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 02, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
A small job
 

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All ash , cut list 3/8"x 4"  3/4"x4"  3"x3"  2 1/2"x3 1/2" all for the a apple guy.
When I got there I did not like the set up . So he moved them to suit me you can see in the pic  ;D

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 He had 2 men to help , [ this Job is all by the hour]
Then I saw John looking at me  :D
 

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Now this is a skidder. Then his dad came and got him
 

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I could have fun with that. I did not get a pic but on the back if the trailer the sign said " run forest run"  :D :D :D
All and all a good day, and that Wood Mizer Accuset2 is on the money every time, put in what you want and go, and don't give it a thought after just make lumber
 

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 This time of year you have to clean of the mill, because it will freeze and the mill won't work well the next day
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 02, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Looks like a nice job. All ash?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 02, 2013, 07:14:33 PM
John would put a strain on your new bridge.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 02, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
I don't know, it's so long I don't think you could get both ends on at once. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 02, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
Looks like a nice job. All ash?


Yes light and strong and It;s what the customer wants  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 02, 2013, 07:38:06 PM
on the back if the trailer the sign said " run forest run"


 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN1240.JPG)
Maybe he needed to borrow my shirt.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 02, 2013, 07:46:41 PM
on the back if the trailer the sign said " run forest run"


 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN1240.JPG)
Maybe he needed to borrow my shirt.   ;D




 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Maybe :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 02, 2013, 08:07:05 PM
DanG Magic….you got the FLU too :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 02, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
 :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 02, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
 :D  but I gots my WM Way today.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 02, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
Looks like the mill was chunking it out,     david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 02, 2013, 11:49:07 PM
Looks like Magic has some pretty good second growth timber coming up on the face. ;D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 03, 2013, 06:15:11 AM
Yup, that was for our Colorado trip in October.  It is gone now, but hopefully it will grow again next Fall.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 04, 2013, 05:55:55 PM
Today went well but cold with a hard wind. When I got there the customer had it all stage for me
 

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And yup the dirt was frozen on some of the logs.
 

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I think I made more sawdust than lumber cutting all day 3/8x 4"
Did I say it was cold and the wind kept the mill clean of sawdust too.
 

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But I did get some cut  :D :D ;D
 

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Well Ill be back have to go sharpen some blades , Frozen dirt is hard on blades :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 04, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
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Frozen dirt is hard on blades :D :D :D

But you've got one of those fancy dancy debarkers..... why would you have dull blades?

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 04, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
Nice! way to chunk'em out!  Looks like a very workable area to me,, one exception,, the hard cold wind,,
david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 04, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
Good pics Pete……there's gotta be a way to run a heat blower off that Diesel.  say_what
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 04, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
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Frozen dirt is hard on blades :D :D :D

But you've got one of those fancy dancy debarkers..... why would you have dull blades?

Jim Rogers

Yes but sometimes it's the way it goes.  :D


Good pics Pete……there's gotta be a way to run a heat blower off that Diesel.  say_what


maybe :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on December 04, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
Nice! way to chunk'em out!  Looks like a very workable area to me,, one exception,, the hard cold wind,,
david

I agree, very tidy site, the customer obvious cares.  :)

btw, when it's windy cold I just put on a rain slicker over top of my insulation... works wonders stopping the wind chill.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 04, 2013, 08:49:12 PM
Hope you ordered the official Wood Mizer heated seat option. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 04, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
You obviously were making the best of a rather unpleasant situation.  The logs looked nice anyway.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on December 12, 2013, 12:00:17 AM
Peter, do you know offhand how long your mill is overall with the extension on it? its been nasty here lately so I'm spending some time at the computer drawing things.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 12, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
I will look today and let you know tonight. I'm moving logs from the wood lot today got the landing in yesterday.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: coxy on December 12, 2013, 06:50:07 AM
is that a kitty cat ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on December 12, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
I see some trees in this picture that might not be there in the next one.  ;D

btw, if that machine goes across the bridge you built, then it must be a pretty good bridge. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 12, 2013, 11:10:06 AM
The Wood-Mizer 24' extension is just a manual mill frame, which is 24' long. An LT40 is 24', plus the hitch, so the whole works is going to be about 50' long.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 12, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
is that a kitty cat ;D

Yes it is  :D :D



The Wood-Mizer 24' extension is just a manual mill frame, which is 24' long. An LT40 is 24', plus the hitch, so the whole works is going to be about 50' long.


Daves got it 50' long  smiley_thumbsup   Hi Dave  smiley_wavy
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 12, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
I see some trees in this picture that might not be there in the next one.  ;D

btw, if that machine goes across the bridge you built, then it must be a pretty good bridge. ;)



The cat did and the bridge is ok  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 12, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
I've given a lot of thought on how to put a building over the mill and still be able to get logs onto the extension. My primary idea is to use some W24x60 or 70 something pound beams that I have access to, but my favorite is to have a building with one 14'x14' door on the end and big enough to drive a trailer truck into and unload inside.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on December 12, 2013, 09:21:30 PM
I've given a lot of thought on how to put a building over the mill and still be able to get logs onto the extension. My primary idea is to use some W24x60 or 70 something pound beams that I have access to, but my favorite is to have a building with one 14'x14' door on the end and big enough to drive a trailer truck into and unload inside.  :D

I've been working on a solution to cover the mill and potential extension etc. this is just a preliminary sketch, but it seems to me that timber frame is an obvious option for anyone who owns a sawmill.   :)

you need sketchup to view the file, it's a free download & quite powerful drawing tool.



Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 13, 2013, 06:13:13 AM
I used a I beam

 

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14' high, I had the steel guy tell me how big it had to be for the snow load,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rmack on December 13, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
I used a I beam

 

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14' high, I had the steel guy tell me how big it had to be for the snow load,

that kind of stuff is worth it's weight in gold up here. I could probably buy an old self loader log truck for that $.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 14, 2013, 07:29:25 PM
Well I had 1 1/2 days in getting the landing in and the road in.
And my logger did well
 

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I did get the bar stuck  :D
 

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But John helped me . I loaded the one ton with John and ran back and forth with fire wood
 

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Then at the end of the day I left the one ton and drove John back home so I could plug it in . Too cold here. And bring home a trailer home with wood. :D
 

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The road in was not too bad
 

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all en all a good 4 days got 19 cords in and some logs ;D
 

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red oak
 

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With some ash red maple rock maple w birch and beach.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 14, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
How cold was it Pete? Good Pics!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 14, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
Postonm, degrees don't matter. As long as everything is frozen like permafrost, you're good to go. ;D It got up to about 14 here today, I think I'm going to make a call to get the skidder delivered tomorrow.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 14, 2013, 07:51:23 PM
Postonm, degrees don't matter. As long as everything is frozen like permafrost, you're good to go. ;D It got up to about 14 here today, I think I'm going to make a call to get the skidder delivered tomorrow.

Never thought of that Dave. Down here it usually don't get cold enough to freeze everything.
Just plain ol muddy, slop with sleet and rain mixed. It will chill you to the bone when the wind is blowing!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 14, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
I'm just ribbin' you because I had no idea how cold it was up in NH. :) I'll take permafrost over what you are talking about any day. That damp, cold air is tough! Do you guys log through the slop, or try to pick the best days?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 14, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
I still vote no on the great white north. I remember steel getting brittle and snapping and frostbite every time we had to clear the 1/4 mile driveway. Ugh :(

Give me 80 and dry in December any day. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

My hands and feet still hurt when it gets cold, and it has been over 40 years now.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 14, 2013, 09:49:55 PM
Most time here in Maine,the temp in kinda warm when it snows. If it's cloudy that keeps the heat in,some what. I'm talking in the 20's now. A clear day and look out,it might get on the cold side of the single numbers.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on December 14, 2013, 10:09:29 PM
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I remember steel getting brittle and snapping and frostbite every time we had to clear the 1/4 mile driveway.
Not that I doubt what you remember, but I can't remember steel breaking when plowing 1/4 mile of my drive for the last ... 44 years.
Wore out some tire chains and had some bolts come loose, but no steel breaks.   Maybe yet to come... ;)

Thought I might break a couple two three times...   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 14, 2013, 10:15:27 PM
20-40 below, we lost draw pins, flail chains, arms on manure loaders on the tractor. I remember just fine. Pipes buried 7 ft deep freezing. Sorry, I don't miss it one bit.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 14, 2013, 10:16:11 PM
I think it was +10 everything is frozen at the wood lot. When you're moving 19 cords of wood your not cold. But slippery I fell only 3 times :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 14, 2013, 10:16:59 PM
I also don't miss that. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 14, 2013, 10:29:14 PM
I also don't miss that. :)

When was the last time you made a snow ball ? come on you know you miss it :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: SFires on December 15, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
I live in southern Oklahoma. Use to work with a feller from alaska and I would always laugh cause he would complane when it got down in the 20-10 degrees. He'd say it was a diff kind of cold and he couldn't take it. Lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Red Good on December 15, 2013, 12:35:05 AM
I agree with your Alaskan buddy , I find it very cold here with humidity compared to -20 but dry . Good thing is I no longer have to soak my wooden hammer handles to keep the heads on !
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 15, 2013, 09:24:23 AM
mesquite buckeye,the great white north? 20-40 below? pipes buried 7 feet and still freezing? That is not my area of Maine. Well we did have one winter where we had 2 days of temps like that,about 10 years ago?
 Where was you living at the time?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 15, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
The Miami of the north, Blooming Prairie, Minnesota in the late 60's. One winter there was no snow and really cold, started freezing the deep pipes that were usually ok. That spring I dug up a broken tile line and hit frozen ground at 6 ft in June. Yuk. I think we had snow on the strawberries in June either that year or the next.

Heading south seemed like a good idea. ;D

Besides, they have grits there. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 15, 2013, 11:31:45 AM
10" of snow makes it look different  :D

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Don't know if you can see but a moose went through last night
 

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Then I saw this the other day
 

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This land has all kinds of surprises. :D :D ;)
 

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Not big but we have them. and they smell good too
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 16, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
There was this other thing ,A maple grown together, what would do with it, fire wood or ?
 

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And winter is here :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on December 16, 2013, 06:13:26 PM
     That looks like firewood, and it looks like you need it! :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 16, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
If you chain saw it the right way…….someone from Nebraska may give you $300.00 for it.   poston-smiley
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on December 16, 2013, 11:24:32 PM
     Poston, pick it up and bring it to a tourist town down here.  Tell 'em it's a palm log, carve a face on it and call it a Tiki, and you'd get your $300 and enough on top to buy us a beer and a sammich!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on December 17, 2013, 08:26:35 AM
Either charge hourly or  leave it there, it looks good the way it is.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Some days it doesn't pay  :D  -10 today, went to start the LT40 and the battery is dead, well will not turn over fast to start, got a new battery and It fired right up. Get a pine log, load the mill, the thing is sliding all over, did not think I would live longenuff to get it set. That pine is like a rock frozen hard. I cut the slab off and the sparks are flying .[Frozen mud] and the edge are as sharp as a knife. I cut the flinch and throw it down and it breaks like a piece of glass.I get the log all cut up and the snow is coming down so I'll call it a day, went to blow off the mill and on the #2 pull on the compressor and the rope is in my hand, now I have to fix that.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 07:02:21 PM
Some days it doesn't pay  :D  -10 today, went to start the LT40 and the battery is dead, well will not turn over fast to start, got a new battery and It fired right up. Get a pine log, load the mill, the thing is sliding all over, did not think I would live longenuff to get it set. That pine is like a rock frozen hard. I cut the slab off and the sparks are flying .[Frozen mud] and the edge are as sharp as a knife. I cut the flinch and throw it down and it breaks like a piece of glass.I get the log all cut up and the snow is coming down so I'll call it a day, went to blow off the mill and on the #2 pull on the compressor and the rope is in my hand, now I have to fix that.

Why I live in sunny Tucson, AZ.  ;D Wish it would rain more though. :'(
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 17, 2013, 07:07:41 PM
Peter, do you put those plastic sheets up just for a storm, or can you roll them up?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2013, 08:09:05 PM
Peter, do you put those plastic sheets up just for a storm, or can you roll them up?

Just for the winter and they do roll up, to keep the snow out
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
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Why I live in sunny Tucson, AZ.  ;D Wish it would rain more though. :'(

But you have the same weather all the time and that would be a pith ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
Not true, very hot in the summer, with big thunderstorms. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 17, 2013, 08:20:02 PM
Not related to sawing per say, but our last lil winter blast kinda bit me in the rear.  they called for maybe 3", we got 12"  temps in the single digits,  tractor would not start, lift would not start, mill did, but does no good without a deck of logs, and the drive suffered heavily,  I'm ready for the next one,  just hope there is no next one,  I don't like it (snow/and cold) like you do Peter ;D  david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 17, 2013, 08:23:23 PM
It is good for people who love cold to live where it is cold and for those who don't to live where cold is absent. ;D ;D ;D

                          from the philosophy of Mesquite Buckeye, in ed
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 17, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
Some places the glaciers are thick and it is cold.  Some places it is hot.  Some places it is in-between. 

Observations from a Forestry Forum Vetern
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
Live where you're happy. And the way things went today, It was a good day still.

And if a man doesn't have  challenges every day he will die :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 17, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
I am challenged because my planer quite working today.  Won't start.  But, I still have a pretty good attitude.  At least I completed the Forestry Forum Christmas Contest  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 17, 2013, 09:33:27 PM
I am challenged because my planer quite working today.  Won't start.  But, I still have a pretty good attitude.  At least I completed the Forestry Forum Christmas Contest  :).

Maybe you'll come in 2nd place. Blue Creeper will get that planer running again.  :) :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2013, 09:38:08 PM
I am challenged because my planer quite working today.  Won't start.  But, I still have a pretty good attitude.  At least I completed the Forestry Forum Christmas Contest  :).


It's good you set a goal for the day  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on December 18, 2013, 08:19:31 AM
Some days it doesn't pay  :D  -10 today, went to start the LT40 and the battery is dead, well will not turn over fast to start, got a new battery and It fired right up. Get a pine log, load the mill, the thing is sliding all over, did not think I would live longenuff to get it set. That pine is like a rock frozen hard. I cut the slab off and the sparks are flying .[Frozen mud] and the edge are as sharp as a knife. I cut the flinch and throw it down and it breaks like a piece of glass.I get the log all cut up and the snow is coming down so I'll call it a day, went to blow off the mill and on the #2 pull on the compressor and the rope is in my hand, now I have to fix that.

Why I live in sunny Tucson, AZ.  ;D Wish it would rain more though. :'(
Rather cut a cold log than a hot cactus no thanks.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 18, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
 :D

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 18, 2013, 11:13:58 AM
Hot stickery cactus. ;D

Pays better. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 18, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
Peter likes to saw hemlock and white pine in the glaciered North. I know I do.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: goose63 on December 18, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
 ::) ::)

And if a man doesn't have  challenges every day he will die :)
[/quote]then I aint ever gona die
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
I love the cold and snow for 3 months then bring on spring, In a few days the days will get longer and spring is on the way, 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D

::) ::)

And if a man doesn't have  challenges every day he will die :)
then I aint ever gona die
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Like it  :D you have to keep your brain working or it will stop working. then what  smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_headscratch smiley_headscratch
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on December 18, 2013, 05:33:20 PM
I love the cold and snow for 3 months then bring on spring, In a few days the days will get longer and spring is on the way, 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D

::) ::)

And if a man doesn't have  challenges every day he will die :)
then I aint ever gona die


Like it  :D you have to keep your brain working or it will stop working. then what  smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_headscratch smiley_headscratch
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Then you just trust the Accuset 2
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
I love the cold and snow for 3 months then bring on spring, In a few days the days will get longer and spring is on the way, 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D

::) ::)

And if a man doesn't have  challenges every day he will die :)
then I aint ever gona die


Like it  :D you have to keep your brain working or it will stop working. then what  smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_dizzy smiley_headscratch smiley_headscratch
Then you just trust the Accuset 2
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Yes,  and I still have to use my head  :D

  today when I was cutting 3/8" x 4" and think I can only go down to 1' to the bed I had to look at the cut list to see what the dog board will be and fill the cut list at the same time ,and with frozen logs the clamp will not hold the ice and snow covered log, so I had to change the way I saw a log, the blade would pull the cant out of square.
It was one heck of a day  :D :D :D :D :D 8) ;D now I have to go plow the yard  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 18, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
Then there is the infamous half frozen logs! accuset was doing its best, managed 27% over cut on some pine, pitchy, real pitchy and half froze, another challenge? I reckon, after an 9 hour day in the shop I was kinda hoping for some smooth sailing,   pizza and to bed,  go again tomorrow,   david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 19, 2013, 06:31:54 AM
Then there is the infamous half frozen logs! accuset was doing its best, managed 27% over cut on some pine, pitchy, real pitchy and half froze, another challenge? I reckon, after an 9 hour day in the shop I was kinda hoping for some smooth sailing,   pizza and to bed,  go again tomorrow,   david

That's what it's all about. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 19, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
I think the cold and frozen ash logs had something to with breaking 4 blades today  :D :D
 

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And it; s really bad when you just sharpen the thing. Why can't they break when they're dull . :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 19, 2013, 06:49:12 PM
That wouldn't be any fun.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on December 19, 2013, 07:02:48 PM

And it; s really bad when you just sharpen the thing. Why can't they break when they're dull . :D :D :D ;D

     It's like hitting metal.  It just don't work that way. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 19, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
That wouldn't be any fun.  :)
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But the money was good  :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 19, 2013, 08:15:37 PM
I would rather saw  full frozen the half, but then I don't like that much either,    david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on December 19, 2013, 10:56:13 PM
It'd be nice if you only broke the dull blades, but then again, if they were dull, they wouldn't be on your mill.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on December 19, 2013, 11:58:55 PM
We are out on a road trip, 200+ miles up the coast, ice down to the beach.
Milled a batch of coastal stressed Doug fir, all 20'. Smallest was 20" couple were 36".
Then we milled a batch of spruce, same kind of logs, lot of grits in these logs, went thru half a box of saws.
Then we moved inland a few miles and milled up a truck load of western red cedar salvage logs, little Jo has taken to the control panel and keeps the saw in the wood, these logs had been buried in a mud slide so rocks were in every nook and cranny, zing zing :-\
Moving the mill again in the morning, another batch of western red cedar on down the road.
Phone has been ringing steady since we pulled onto town, had to start scheduling round two for next month, this ol mill has been from coast to coast.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 20, 2013, 07:24:17 AM
It's good to see things finally clicking for you Harvey.  It's also good that Little Jo, has taken to the helm.  What a "big" helper.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 20, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Today's challenge in "A day cutting wood" is to take these two 12x12 Ebony blocks and cut them to 6/4 stock.

 

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Has anyone ever cut Ebony? I have some 4° blades on hand right back from resharp. I have been using them for my frozen oak.

I was going to try cutting them "real slow".....

Should make some interesting black sawdust here in the white wonderland.....

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 20, 2013, 12:27:20 PM
Be sure to tell us how it comes out with pics Jim  :D :D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on December 20, 2013, 03:36:42 PM
Make that black stinky sawdust. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 20, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Well it wasn't that stinky at all, or at least I couldn't smell it.....

Was interesting for sure.

First cut of the big piece:

 

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There were some strange blocks glued into the middle of these large pieces to make it one larger block.

But they are all done now:

 

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The antique furniture restorer who brought these in wanted them cut to 6/4 for making other things.

One of them may be put together with mitered corners to make a sculpture stand.

You never know what will come down the driveway.....

Jim Rogers

PS. took one hour, I spend more time moving the pieces then I spend sawing.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 20, 2013, 05:27:27 PM
 ;D Like it!   that is always fun doing neat projects,  cool stuff for sure,  david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 20, 2013, 07:13:02 PM
Good job cutting wood today,  :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 20, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
Just like a log or a fortune cookie.  You never know what is inside until you open it up.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 20, 2013, 07:48:15 PM
Very pretty wood Jim. That's every bit of $300.00……….each.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: schmism on December 20, 2013, 09:40:55 PM
did you use your 4 deg blades?  how was feed rate etc?   Give us some more details on what it was like to saw?   (that 12" block was a hard to saw as a 18" frozen oak etc)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on December 21, 2013, 06:02:57 AM
Opening up a piece of wood to see what is in side is what it is all about ;D

Today we canted up this deck of old tight grained wester red cedar logs/chunks. lots of little spruce sprouts using them for nurse logs,
Having equipment on site sure helped with log handling and cant handling of these wet heavy pieces.
The coastal rain settled in and the rain gear was not up for the task, we were all thurly soaked and dripping wet when we lost a saw as a chunk went around the wheel on the last log in that deck, it was a good stopping point.
Have yet another deck to mill before we take the mill home.   

Little Jo has been doing most of the sawing on this trip and is a good smooth operator, she has sawn a quite a bit of wood this year, 10,000+ bft this week alone, although I may have to start carring a step stool so little Jo can see to mill these big logs. Having a second sawyer has been a real blessing, frees me up get logs ready, B.S. with customer, take a brake, B.S. with  customer, off bear, B.S. with customer ect, ect  :) :) ::)
 


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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ladylake on December 21, 2013, 06:14:59 AM
 That plié of logs make my crooked snarly ones look good.   Steve
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 21, 2013, 08:24:36 AM
  I may have to start carring a step stool so little Jo can see to mill these big logs. 
Here is the step that I use;  LINK (http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=rv+platform+step&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=33023399528&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1701348020511577223&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_6z7ymdub81_b)  I have the top one listed.  It has a much larger platform and can be used with the logs up or down depending upon the height needed.

It is shown in Bill Gaiche's Reply# 460 in the "Goodwill" thread. 
LINK (http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,69061.460.html)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 21, 2013, 09:11:31 AM
did you use your 4 deg blades?  how was feed rate etc?   Give us some more details on what it was like to saw?   (that 12" block was a hard to saw as a 18" frozen oak etc)

The customer is on his way over here now to pick them up.

Edit: While I was writing this he showed up. The wood was called Kamagong which is a type of Ebony.
I did use my regular 4° blades and it wasn't anything special about it. I put my water jug back on the mill and opened it up full as I figured the blade would get hot cutting such hard wood. Which it did a little. But not enough to move the needle in the gauge.

I just cut it very slow and steady. I would say it was more or less like sawing frozen oak.

I didn't smell anything different that I noticed.

He was happy with the job and will use it to do several different projects.

I didn't save a piece for myself so I only have pictures to remind me of the milling job.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on December 21, 2013, 11:37:57 AM
Jim
Any explanation for the internal square 'holes' shown in the pics?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 21, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
Well it wasn't that stinky at all, or at least I couldn't smell it.....

Was interesting for sure.

First cut of the big piece:

 

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There were some strange blocks glued into the middle of these large pieces to make it one larger block.

But they are all done now:

 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/Ebony_all_done.JPG)

The antique furniture restorer who brought these in wanted them cut to 6/4 for making other things.

One of them may be put together with mitered corners to make a sculpture stand.

You never know what will come down the driveway.....

Jim Rogers

PS. took one hour, I spend more time moving the pieces then I spend sawing.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on December 21, 2013, 01:55:59 PM
 ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 21, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
These blocks had lots of sap wood on them. To make the blocks bigger then put the heart side of the block out, and the bark side of the blocks in. To join them they used these square blocks and glued them into these square holes.
I don't know other than what he told me that they wanted to use the blocks as a sculpture stand but they were too big and heavy.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 21, 2013, 08:24:33 PM
beenthere, I highlighted the answer to your question in Jim's post in red.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on December 21, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
That plié of logs make my crooked snarly ones look good.   Steve
Surprizingly the recovery of sound wood is quite high. These old logs have some very tight grain (12-20 per inch) We are just going thru and making cants for now, some can be short as it will be resawn for window trim, did have one that had a double banna thing going on with an ant colony vein following the curve = low recovery. some of these chuncks came from huge old trees as one hunk was a quarter of a hollow log and took considerable chainsaw carving to make it 36x36.

Hey MM that little step has a fair sized working area, looks like the ticket, I may consider the adjustable legs option.

Jim were the square pegs from the same type of wood?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 22, 2013, 12:21:20 PM

Jim were the square pegs from the same type of wood?

No sure I didn't get to touch or smell one. I could email the customer and ask....

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 08, 2014, 07:29:45 PM
Today it was -4 lite wind and sun. A job 1/2 hour away.
 

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The customer has a lull to move the logs around a little. He didn't put down any dunage.

The #2 pile he's going to move them ahead out of a hole there in  :D
I hope it's warmer tomorrow.
The cat on the mill ran perfect. The Wood Mizer 55x1 1/4x7 cut that frozen w pine like butter. It took and hr to warm up the Accuset2, So I could see the readout.
All an all it went well ;D


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 08, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
Good report Peter……Brrrrrrrrrrrr!  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 08, 2014, 09:25:45 PM
Yuck. Think I would find some inside work until spring. :(
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on January 08, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
Yuck. Think I would find some inside work until spring. :(

And you'd turn up the heat to about 95 °F   ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 08, 2014, 09:51:47 PM
Uh, maybe. ;D 8) 8) :snowball:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 10, 2014, 05:57:59 AM
The day went well , not as cold with sun. and the customer did well with the logs

 

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and the wood
 

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They cut the wood at 16' the kiln is 16' 2"  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 10, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
It will fit  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 15, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
Nice day today +45 and sun. Got the job done 7000 bf. I have to say the saw dust on a job like this is a pith  :D. The last few log I left the dust I was getting tired with all the 16' lumber  :D
How would you set up a blower  with a small gas engine on it and blow the dust to one side? I'll have to think about it, but if there's some ideas I'm all ears :D
 

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There was some nice pine 14" wide
 

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Tomorrow I'm cutting some red oak.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 15, 2014, 05:38:59 PM
Peter…..get what I have…..you saw the pics….I hope…..of the big 5 foot wide conveyor belt I use. I just lay it on the ground along side the mill and all the sawdust blows on it. When it gets heaped up……just pull it off with the tractor to your pile. Whats under the mill….just blow it away with the leaf blower.

Nice pics you posted.  :)

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 15, 2014, 05:48:38 PM
You would have to change your stacking plan, but if you prop that tube up so it's blowing straight out, you can saw for a long time before it gets in your way. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 15, 2014, 05:49:11 PM
Very cool. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 15, 2014, 05:58:35 PM
Peter:

Are you sawing alone or do you have a helper?

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on January 15, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Another thought, along the line of the 5 gal bucket hanging on the saw head, would be a bucket (scoop) that would carry the sawdust then trip and dump the sawdust at the end of the cut. Thinking that at least the off-loading area would be free of a buildup of sawdust.

Am wondering how you keep that one high stack of lumber from tipping over and becoming a real pain? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 15, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
Peter:

Are you sawing alone or do you have a helper?

Jim Rogers

Now don't be trying to put the work on somebody else! :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 15, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
Peter:

Are you sawing alone or do you have a helper?

Jim Rogers

Now don't be trying to put the work on somebody else! :D

if you have a helper, there are lots of time that he is standing there waiting for a piece of slab, or lumber to be carried off. At these times he can dump the bucket hanging from a hook on an elbow:

 

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But it's hard to do that when you're alone and riding on the seat of the mill.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 15, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
I tried to hang it from my Elbow……it don't work.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 15, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Another thought, along the line of the 5 gal bucket hanging on the saw head, would be a bucket (scoop) that would carry the sawdust then trip and dump the sawdust at the end of the cut. Thinking that at least the off-loading area would be free of a buildup of sawdust.

Am wondering how you keep that one high stack of lumber from tipping over and becoming a real pain?

beenthere, I've been thinking of doing something like that. Either a mechanical trip, or I've been trying to figure out if I can add another switch to my wireless remote so I can do it from most anywhere. :D I'm stationary, and would hook up a vacuum hose, but I don't think that will work for 45 feet of travel. I've had plugging issues with wet pine sawdust with only 20 feet of travel.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 15, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
Peter:

Are you sawing alone or do you have a helper?

Jim Rogers


Just me Jim 2 and 1/2 days sawing time rain for 3  :D :D Jim I did think about the bucket thing, but I think the supper will blow the dust out of the bucket and I get enough in my eyes now. Maybe not, I have not tried it.
 
Postonlt40, you do have a good set up, but at home all my lumber goes out that end, and on the road I don't have John with me

Beenthere it;s all froze together  :D :D and space was tight. Most times I make more piles

Dave s I have left the thing up If I have help then all the lumber goes out the end of the mill
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 15, 2014, 09:18:30 PM
Somebody drove a backhoe into your tomato patch  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 15, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
 mater head   It wasn't me!  :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 15, 2014, 09:26:09 PM
materhead  It wasn't me!  :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 15, 2014, 11:35:14 PM
 
One of the nice things about being portable is when the job is done you dig out a path for the tire and pull out.


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Hmmm now we got maters staring back at us!!!
Keep the backhoe out of the mater patch!!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 16, 2014, 05:36:48 PM
Did a small job today red oak
 

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I try to cut with the split
 

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0ne of the logs had a spider on the end not good
 

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When you see this, you should cut 2' off the log to see if it cleans up.
The wood was not too bad  :D :D
 

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And a sassy Massey
 

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Then I went to the next job
 

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 :D :D :D :D :D all froze in so I had the customer move the logs
 

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on the #3 log was a but so I tell the customer I want to look for steel, he said there no steel in the log  :D :D :D
But my Garret metal Detector said yes there is :D :D :D :D :D :D
 

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See the barbed wire in it in the hole. That tree was like 125 years old and the wire was in the middle of it waiting for me :D :D :D but it did not get my blade  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on January 16, 2014, 06:18:04 PM
Nasty, pretty easy to see that one, never no metal they say ;D   david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 16, 2014, 07:41:39 PM
Looks like you had a very nice day.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 16, 2014, 10:49:30 PM
Went out and looked at this job about a month ago, there is a long clay road that is only used during the summer months that will come down off the mountain make a loop down by the creek where the logs are and no turn around if I came in from the other end which has gravel.
When I arrived the do not enter log had been removed and there were fresh mud tracks coming up out of there, I locked it in four low and eased down the hill. When I reached the first corner the road was all torn up where a four wheel drive had got crossed, my truck wanted to cross up with the mill pushing it, I picked a rut and got it all to straighten out and followed it the rest of the way down the muddy beaver slide.
He had sent his boy up to remove the log so his boy had tried to go up the hill. Then they spent a couple hours getting the truck out of the road. JR has been a Johnny on the spot helper the last couple days.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 17, 2014, 03:02:26 PM
I made a bracket to hang a bucket off my sawdust chute this afternoon. As I expected, it filled up too fast. I was making 10"-12" wide cuts on a 12' long white pine log, and I could only get two cuts in one bucket. So, on a 30'+ log, I won't make even one pass on a bucket, especially if it is a much wider cut then 12". The purpose of this experiment was to see how much capacity I would need for one pass on a long log. As I mentioned before, I was thinking of having some sort of dump hopper that I could trip over a vacuum port, but I think I would need at least 15 gallons of capacity to really do what I need on long timbers. Back to the drawing board. It does look like there is a lot of dust flying out of the bucket, but there was almost no dust on the ground. It was effective, but unless you really needed to keep the ground clean, I think your time would be better spent shoveling the dust away with a shovel.

http://youtu.be/tySbzAfTzdo
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: SAWMILL BUDDY on January 17, 2014, 05:37:14 PM
I tried the bucket trick too. Lasted about 10 min.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 17, 2014, 05:55:13 PM
The problem with a bigger bucket is when you get down to 1" off the table. The bucket tips as you go down the rail.

What I did was I put the head on the first 4/4 mark, my lowest setting. Then I put the bucket on the ground under the elbow and raised it up just enough so it wouldn't drag and tip. That way the opening of the elbow is above the lip of the bucket. You get more in it before you dump. Make your hook at that height. You hook looks to be too tall.

Now as you are sawing what are you doing?

You have a remote, so you can walk down to where the head is and swap buckets when it is full. You may not get an entire pass in one bucket because of the amount of sawdust coming out. But if you're not doing anything, like stacking boards or carrying off slabs then you have plenty of time to empty the bucket and/or swap a full bucket out and put an empty one in.;

Just be careful when you reach for a bucket that the worse thing that could happen, may happen:

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/DSCF2757-s.JPG)

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 17, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
Personally…….I would kick the bucket.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 17, 2014, 06:05:59 PM
Thanks Dave, that's what I thought would happen  :D
Well I did finish to day all but 3 logs they where frozen in and the customer could not move them with a backhoe  :D :D :D
 

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I see a mill there and told the customer if he wants to sell it I would buy it. I don't know what I would do with it, maybe set it up and look at it  :D :D
 

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It's in a barn and he has all the parts. I know O about a mill like that.
but my Wood Mizer did so well this week I gave it a bath  :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 17, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
The problem with a bigger bucket is when you get down to 1" off the table. The bucket tips as you go down the rail.

What I did was I put the head on the first 4/4 mark, my lowest setting. Then I put the bucket on the ground under the elbow and raised it up just enough so it wouldn't drag and tip. That way the opening of the elbow is above the lip of the bucket. You get more in it before you dump. Make your hook at that height. You hook looks to be too tall.

Now as you are sawing what are you doing?

You have a remote, so you can walk down to where the head is and swap buckets when it is full. You may not get an entire pass in one bucket because of the amount of sawdust coming out. But if you're not doing anything, like stacking boards or carrying off slabs then you have plenty of time to empty the bucket and/or swap a full bucket out and put an empty one in.;

Just be careful when you reach for a bucket that the worse thing that could happen, may happen:

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10095/DSCF2757-s.JPG)

Jim Rogers

I didn't have any problems with the bucket tipping.

When I am sawing, I am only sawing. I have to keep one hand on the remote so it keeps going forward. The forward lever is spring centered. Besides, if you noticed the time of the video, it only took 19 seconds to start the saw, set the feed, saw 13' and shut down again. :D

I have a remote so that I don't have to walk down the mill. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 19, 2014, 12:58:20 PM
 

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This is how I did my pail hanger.

 

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Can still raise the chute to clear as a requred. can also slide the rubber extension tube on without tools when I need to.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 19, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
Since I am portable I just let the customer shovel sawdust.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 19, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Since I am portable I just let the customer shovel sawdust.   ;D


So you never work alone like I do. I'm the only guy there  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 19, 2014, 06:58:56 PM
Since I am portable I just let the customer shovel sawdust.   ;D


So you never work alone like I do. I'm the only guy there  :D :D

Me 2.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 19, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
Since I am portable I just let the customer shovel sawdust.   ;D


So you never work alone like I do. I'm the only guy there  :D :D

Me 2.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 19, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
If your mill has wheels you can pull it out of the junk and either load it with a tractor and loader or shovel it up when there is nothing there to hit your head. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 19, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Reply #406 & 407 indicates that there are two (2) of you !!!    :o   poston-smiley   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on January 19, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
oh the horrors of it all having two POST........ I got so scared,I can't even finish it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 19, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Reply #406 & 407 indicates that there are two (2) of you !!!    :o   poston-smiley   :D

I must be double clicking or something……I've been doing this several times in the past week. Gotta be more careful.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 19, 2014, 09:37:12 PM
OK, I was like Ray and scared that you had doubled up on us.   Wow, what a relief !!!     :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 19, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
Can't have 2 poston  oz_smiley smiley_ghost
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 19, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
STOP IT! Y'all embarrassing me.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 19, 2014, 10:56:28 PM
I don't know for sure guys but there are days I feel like I should have at least 2 of me to keep up to what my brain STILL thinks I SHOULD be able to get done in a day. If you have figured out how to get 2 of your self working in the same place at the same time done ever tell any one and just run with it. ;D ;D At our age no one would believe it was real any way AND we can just blame it on the forestry forum since that is the cyber borg that has that power to clone us all.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 22, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Since I am portable I just let the customer shovel sawdust.   ;D 


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Dodgy Loner shoveling Cherry sawdust.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 22, 2014, 08:29:27 PM
Did you bring the shovel? 
Boy it looks warm there. I was cutting frozen hemlock today and it took off the corners on the blade  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 22, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
Yup, my scoop.  Dodgy finally pulled that shirt off and worked in his T shirt.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 22, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Knowing him, he probably took the sawdust home, too  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 22, 2014, 09:58:54 PM
Had an early morning site evaluation to look at some over sized Doug fir logs on the way out to where the sawmill is set up now. I was plenty early to meet him at the local store in his town and it was well before breakfast so picked up a box of donuts to share with the customer. 

It turned out to be one tree five foot plus on the butt, two 24’ logs and two 32’ logs 28” on the small end where the top had broke out. Roughly 8,500 bft. The first 60’ was all over sized and ideal for a swing blade mill. He was hoping for clear tight grained CVG and some beams. Unfortunately at best it was a tight grained #3 saw log do to the number of large knots, and white speck that ran the entire length. Nevertheless he will have a pile of firewood when he gets it all cut up.

It was to foggy and the pictures did not turn out well, but the Donuts were good and spent the rest of the day milling Oak without hitting any metal.

When I finish up and pull out I like to leave a nice neat pile of sawdust and a nice neat tailing pile as sometimes it will still be there when you return next time.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 22, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
some days are like that  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: losttheplot on January 22, 2014, 11:26:07 PM
  Unfortunately at best it was a tight grained #3 saw log do to the number of large knots, and white speck that ran the entire length

Could you please describe what the "white speck" is ?

Thanks.
LTP
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 22, 2014, 11:48:22 PM
Decomp!!! I believe it is a fungis that lives on the sugars in the cells, someone correct me if I am wrong, it is visable in the end grain of the log, makes the wood to soft for structual use, can still be used for siding. When you find white speck you can usualy find a wound in the tree that allowed it to get a foot hold, this tree had the top blown out some time back.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 23, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
Today was fun frozen hemlock with ice and gravel . I can't see the gravel under the ice. I would drop the logs as high as John would reach  :D
 

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And some ice would come off. I just put it on the mill and cut
 

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 The sawdust would freeze instantly on the cant , well it was +4  :D :D :D
Sometimes it would be one blade to one log after I cut some gravel. The hemlock would let you know when the blade was dull  :D
 

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A wave  :D :D :D
what had happen I cut some logs that where in the back of the pile and some the logger got mud all over them. And with all ice and snow you can't see it.
Sometimes I have to drop a log on them to get them loose.
 

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And Postonlt40 I was thinking how you ripped a wire from your debarker, So when I ordered some blades I got one of the cups for the wires.
 

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Fits good  :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 23, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
Way to go Peter…..WOODMIZER should cover those wires with a cup on all the mills.
I think I'll bring that up and the next ORANGE meeting.  :D

…..are you out of blades?  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 23, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Peter, I'm guessing that the Debarker will not plow through that frozen mess??  Of course I have seen embedded rocks that it did not get either.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 23, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
Way to go Peter…..WOODMIZER should cover those wires with a cup on all the mills.
I think I'll bring that up and the next ORANGE meeting.  :D

let me know when it is  :D





Peter, I'm guessing that the Debarker will not plow through that frozen mess??  Of course I have seen embedded rocks that it did not get either.   :-\



even when I go slow it don't make it to the bark. But what to do I have to get the order out.
Maybe one big debarker for the hole log  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 25, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
I don't know how you can stand it. I would be waiting for the thaw. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 25, 2014, 06:46:42 PM
I don't know how you can stand it. I would be waiting for the thaw. ;D



Well it's not to bad and I like a test  :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 27, 2014, 12:51:51 AM
 

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It was such a nice sunny spring like day that the bee's were flying, T shirt weather ;D
 

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had some figure in these logs, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 27, 2014, 07:52:56 AM
Whoa, that is beautiful!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 27, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
It's always a nice surprise.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on January 27, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Cha ching! ;D

What kind of tree is that?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 27, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
The ol boy in the boots found this batch of coastal maple in the chip pile on a logging site. Bought all he could get on a log truck for chip price and had it taken home, considered making firewood out of it until his boy who is building timber frame homes stopped in for a visit and insisted on having it milled up. This log had enough figure like shown in it to do a full set of kitchen cabinets. Another log made a stack of one live edge slabs 20-24” 14’ long for counter tops, rest made flooring. It all went to the kiln today.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 27, 2014, 10:52:56 PM
It looks like uncovering buried treasure.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 27, 2014, 11:34:34 PM
Today while milling up a batch of Oak found three chinquapin in the deck. It is not a wood that I see a lot of so got some pictures to share. Might add it was an awsome milling site with a good veiw.


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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 28, 2014, 08:03:14 AM
Do you know what species of chinquapin that it was?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on January 29, 2014, 12:27:57 AM
Chrysolepis chrysophylla, the golden chinquapin or giant chinquapin:
 A tree reaching 20–40 metres (66–130 ft) tall,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on February 02, 2014, 12:31:42 AM
virginia tech tree ID app :P

Chinkapin is an evolutionary link between the oaks and chestnuts. Chinkapin fruits closely resemble those of chestnuts. They are triangular nuts borne inside sharp, spiny burrs. Their twigs resemble those of oaks - with clustered buds and star-shaped piths. Only one species of chinkapin is native to North America. It is called the golden chinkapin and it occurs in Oregon.

Size: Grows to 150' tall and 6' in diameter. Grows as a shrub at high elevations.

Leaves: Simple, alternate, evergreen. Lanceolate; 2"-5" long; stiff and leathery; green above and golden below; smooth margins.

Fruit: Sharp, spiny burr with 1-2 triangular nuts.

Twigs: Yellow, star-shaped pith.

Bark: Deeply furrowed and ridged; 1"-2" thick.

Distribution: Grows over most of western Oregon below 5,000 feet and at scattered points on the east slopes of the Cascades; it also grows throughout California.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on February 02, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
I believe your app is in error. There is an additional species, my book lists another one as Castanopsis sempervirens. Castanopsis is the old genus name. I didn't check to see if the two species were later merged. That one is called bush chinkapin, also from the Pacific Coastal ranges.

Also, there are several trees called chinkapins from the Eastern US that are members of the genus Castanea. :P

Just sayin.... ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on February 02, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
Frozen mud is really tough on blades, you wouldn't think it would make much difference but it is like cutting concrete (for you southern fellas that don't see frozen mud very often). I'd have to agree that Peter is tough out there cutting on those days where the temp is hovering around 0° :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on February 03, 2014, 03:45:36 AM
I believe your app is in error. There is an additional species, my book lists another one as Castanopsis sempervirens. Castanopsis is the old genus name. I didn't check to see if the two species were later merged. That one is called bush chinkapin, also from the Pacific Coastal ranges.

Also, there are several trees called chinkapins from the Eastern US that are members of the genus Castanea. :P

Just sayin.... ;D

you are right. I dug into some of my old forestry books, and found the "APP" falls short of being a complete list.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 05:41:51 PM
Had a customer brought me some logs today to cut. I did not say anything about size to him.  :D :D :D :D ::)
 

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W pine top end
 

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Red oak
 

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And a bunch of cherry. :D :D
I think I will have to cut the pine in half.  ::) :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 06, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
This might just be the motivation you need to trade up to the LT70 Wide Head. ;) :snowball:

I'd like some nice clear 40" pine butt logs to sink my teeth into. food6
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
And I check them and no steel. Ay 70 wide head.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 06, 2014, 06:02:08 PM
What did he want them cut into?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on March 06, 2014, 06:13:41 PM
You may get a little fair-good lumber from those. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Logs that big are not fun to mill, but soooo much wood when you get done. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 06:35:16 PM
What did he want them cut into?
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2" on the oak and 1" for the Pine and cherry
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 06, 2014, 06:36:33 PM
Peter,I heard there wll be one in Chesterville,Maine at an orange open house in April.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
You may get a little fair-good lumber from those. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Logs that big are not fun to mill, but soooo much wood when you get done. ;D
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I know, But I don't like to work that hard ;D But it is just one that's 40"  :D :D
Maybe I can put a wedge on the excavator to split logs like that. 22 tons might work. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 06:56:04 PM
Peter,I heard there wll be one in Chesterville,Maine at an orange open house in April.  ;D




I'm going to the open house on the 12th of April. I think it starts at 8 am. I'll call to see if one will be there.
Like to see a LT70 wide head with a 200 horse cat engine, GIDDY UP  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 06, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
Peter will be hooked up at 8:01 and be headed for the border by 8:15.  :D   I might go again this year too. Find out if Ross will be serving those Maine grits again.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 06, 2014, 07:28:14 PM
Peter will be hooked up at 8:01 and be headed for the border by 8:15.  :D   I might go again this year too. Find out if Ross will be serving those Maine grits again.  ;D




No, Not this year I have to much going on all ready. And we all know money doesn't grow on trees  ;D
 

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Maine grits  :D :D


Wide head
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on March 06, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Money may not grow on trees, but trees sure produce money!  and the lt-70 will get it from them in a timely fashion. if the set up is right.    david
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 06, 2014, 07:39:01 PM
Too bad that one will only cut short logs. :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 07, 2014, 11:42:13 PM
The wind and rain let up early this morning and we had blue skies for the drive across the county. Rivers are running high and the creeks are running brown, we have a mud road to climb the hill to the milling site and I have to back up the hill from the shop on up to the landing where the Black Oak logs are decked. Climbing the hill the tires were slipping a bit here and there, pulled up and backed the mill in thru the shop to get enough room to get turned around, backing uphill and around the corner took three attempts to get onto the landing, but still had to hook the tractor up to the mill as the red clay was tooooo goooooey
I had done the site eval about a month ago on a Friday he was expecting to be ready by Monday, 48” tree, three pieces needed quartered, 75’ downhill from landing, little tractor and a lot of chainsaw work to be done, I was not a bit surprised it took a month to get ready. There is another big Black oak above the landing that he had used so he could do all his pulling down hill.
Logs ranged in length from 2’ to 9’ most were 5’-6’ so I spent the day operating the manual dogs, and Pee-Vee assisting to turn, one of those short blue mill special cant hooks that MM has been using would have been handy today. But it took both heavy Pee Vee’s to roll some of the larger Quarters in the mud. As the saw dust was generated it was spread around to the soft spots and the ground firmed up a bit as it was a nice sunny warm day, even saw the first buzzards of the year, along with Daffodils and plum trees in full bloom.
It is all being milled into random width flooring and a few stair treads. We had planned for a short day to fit both of our schedules but still had three quarters of the tree milled up and it looks like an easy 2,000 bft out of one tree. Sunny and close to 70* for tomorrow.  ;D
 

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Anyone know what length of saw the wide head 70 uses?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 08, 2014, 09:30:19 AM
It has a 6" wider cut, so it should be 12" longer. I haven't seen the length listed in WM blade chart, yet. What does the LT70 use?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 08, 2014, 06:27:55 PM
Got it cut today, Went around with a saw with a 2' bar then pick it up with John and dumped it. Perfect. ;D

 

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Had trucks and customers coming and going all day.
 

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I tired ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 08, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
Finished milling up the big Black Oak tree, we milled up every log, stick, and chunk that he had not already cut up for firewood, end tally was 2,400 bft.
Since it will be air dried before going to the local kiln-planer mill he rented a full bundle of stickers from them and will start moving it to the open ended barn and stickering it. He plans to cover the stack with plywood and stack a cord or so of firewood on top for added weight. The recovery was real good as the tree was sound thru out with minimal defects that will need to be trimmed out later.
The local planer mill can handle up to 24” and prefers wider boards for making flooring, as they have a five movable saw edger with a scanner for auto positioning that allows them to increase recovery. Our sizes were 6-18 in two inch increments most were 12-14.
 

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This one gave us a bit of a chalenge to get on the mill.
 

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The 70 takes 184"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 08, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
Peter,

After seeing this, I, too, am tired  ;D.

Backwoods,

Some fine oak lumber for sure!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 09, 2014, 08:17:52 AM
Backwoods what happing to your clamp. Is it worn that much or bent?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 09, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
Yup, Harvey needs to tighten the bolts on his clamp.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 09, 2014, 08:26:29 PM
What, Is that not the angle it should be at?
The heavy piece of metal it mounts to is bent. Need to pull it apart and get it straightened up. The whole clamp is worn and has quite a bit of slop in it and is on the list for a rebuild. I will gain an inch of lift on the clamp when I do.

Got the mill set up on grass bottom land where the water table is high but we got rained out. The ground here is so soft now that I just about did not get the farm truck out of the field on the first trip out to feed the cows and calves this morning.



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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 09, 2014, 08:44:31 PM
Looks like Little Jo will have it greased up and ready to go.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POC on March 09, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
I showed my wife part of the pics in this thread and told her, "THIS is what I want to do."  She said maybe someday.  I told her I'm not getting any younger.  :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: richhiway on March 10, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
Peter, thanks for an informative thread. Nice pics. I am interested how the woodlot turned out, I always wanted to do that.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 10, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
Well, I got to the W pine today, The one I cut in half.
 

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I get it on the mill and start, Use John to help hold it till I clamped it.
 

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All went well until it was time to turn it, Then all sawing stoped.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I yelled, And that did not work.
 

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I look at the thing and said I hates big ##### logs.   :D :D :D :D :D :D
That thing rolled like a ball over the stops just as sweet as can be.
So I got John to help me start over  ::)
 

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I did get it cut.
Then I went and got the red oak made 2 cuts got stuck [log too big] tried to back up, but, The sawdust is all frozen and bent the blade all up. Get the saw and cut the ### thing out and called it a day. bath_smiley
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on March 10, 2014, 08:23:43 PM
What's all that white stuff I see everywhere? :snowball:

 ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 10, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Oh thanks Peter……now I'm gonna have nightmares!  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 10, 2014, 08:58:47 PM
Peter, as bad as it was, thankfully it did not wedge between the sawmill and tire.   :o

I too always yell NOOOOOOOOoooo.  It never does any good but I always yell.  It ain't a funny nice feeling.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 10, 2014, 09:10:14 PM
Peter, as bad as it was, thankfully it did not wedge between the sawmill and tire.   :o

I too always yell NOOOOOOOOoooo.  It never does any good but I always yell.  It ain't a funny nice feeling.   :-\



It was top heavy. I think It's the #3 time it has happed to me. And it was always a over size log ::) :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Coon on March 10, 2014, 09:43:45 PM
If you can pitch a nice size log like that I would hate to see the damge you'd do pitching a small diameter 8 or 10 foot long log... :D  I would think it would be a cross between dominoes, baseball and bowling all at once.....  I can hear it now. STRIKE 3 !!!!    :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on March 10, 2014, 10:41:32 PM
Peter, as bad as it was, thankfully it did not wedge between the sawmill and tire.   :o

I too always yell NOOOOOOOOoooo.  It never does any good but I always yell.  It ain't a funny nice feeling.   :-\

Definately not a good feeling Lynn!

I have only done that between the mill and tire thing three times!

Worse thing I've thought about when that happened was DO NOT BREAK THE FEED CHAIN!

Been lucky!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 10, 2014, 11:38:54 PM
I too always yell NOOOOOOOOoooo. 

I yell too, at times like those, except that I yell something else instead of NOOOooo  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 11, 2014, 02:53:04 AM
When splitting the big ones I started making a second cut for the half to sit on
 

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then placing them on the mill with the square side to the dogs
 

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However that does not keep me from yelling Nooooooooooooooo when I grab the wrong lever  :-\
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 11, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
I have to be careful during those times when I am off of the mill and operate the hydraulic controls with my left hand, or maybe when a crowd has gathered and you get distracted.   :o   :D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on March 11, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
Mercy sakes!  you men are getting down and dirty on the big ones! them things will cause all sorts of verbal utterances,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on March 11, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
Since most of what I cut is over size I used to yell a lot of things not the least of which was NOOOOOOO! 

Now i set up and TRY to roll them BACK toward the FULLY raised loader with the clamp all the way in BEFORE i apply any lift? Doesnt always work quite the way you plan it and the "NOOOOOOO" words fly once more.

looks like a very nice batch of lumber came out of that one.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 11, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Had a customer drop off some 26' hemlock today. He wants 8"x14" timbers all side wood 2". They came on a back loader.That thing got to be  a 30' bed
 

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A little fog this morning  :D
Then  another truck came with logs for me to buy . kinder small but that's ok.
Sometimes I need all the logs I can get . :D :D
 

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It been a busy day. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on March 11, 2014, 09:17:52 PM
Am I mistaken or is it getting a bit warmer there? 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 12, 2014, 05:34:35 PM
Last load going out before mud season.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on March 12, 2014, 09:45:16 PM
Peter, You should change your name to highballer!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 12, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
Peter,

You don't mess around!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 13, 2014, 06:25:41 AM
And when I was loading him this showed up and I had no room for the logs . so I had the logger put them buy the green house. Now I have to move them  :-\
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on March 14, 2014, 12:09:41 AM
Peter...Between you and Lyle, I'm plum wore out... hurt_smiley
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
Some days all I do is scale and grade logs and don't get none cut  ::)
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 14, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
Somebodys gotta do it. If you do it, at least you know its done right.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 14, 2014, 08:42:44 PM
How do you grade softwood? Do you have length and diameter cutoffs? Knottyness coefficients? :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 14, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
How do you grade softwood? Do you have length and diameter cutoffs? Knottyness coefficients? :D

I grade Pine by length, diameter, knots, taper, damage.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 14, 2014, 08:51:10 PM
I would hope so, I've seen the trailer loads of pine you get. :o :D

Around here there's usually two grades of pine, 12'x12" and up, and everything else. The good stuff just about pays for the logging and trucking, and the low grade should only put you in the hole about $100 a thousand. :D Oh, and don't think there is any left for the land owner. :-\ About the only time you can move pine is if there is a Christmas tree truck headed home or some crazy timber framer is looking for something. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on March 14, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
I would hope so, I've seen the trailer loads of pine you get. :o :D



What I buy is good logs….what I get free…..well, that's a different story.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 14, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
Yeah, that free stuff is usually worth what you pay for it. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2014, 07:26:07 AM
Pine logs 2" knots and smaller .30
3" and bigger .15
All hemlock .22
All logs 10" and up to 30"
Hardwood, Then how many faces are clear.
 

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But price can change, if you can show me [nice wood]  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dbergum on March 20, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
I'm kind of jumping into the middle of an old post here, but could a guy glue and nail some OSB or plywood to the bottom of a cookie like this and have that keep the top from splitting?  Also, how do you mill them?  Do you have to chainsaw them down to short enough to sit up on the mill, or can you let it hang down through the frame?  I only have about 100 hours on my mill, so I don't have much experience with them yet. 


Had a customer want some cookies out of hemlock, I told him they will split but he said that will be ok, all 5" tall
 

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70 of them :D

do any of you know what this is for
 

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 the bar is about 10lb and the tip is 2" or so wide and was made with the bend in it, and a T on the outher end
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 20, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
Dbergum,welcome to the forum. What kind of mill-size you have?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dbergum on March 20, 2014, 04:52:04 PM
Woodmizer LT35.  So far I have been cutting loads of fir brought in from the mountains to sell as 2 x 8 plank for corrals and windbreak runners.  We have also hauled it out to the breaks to cut pine for the 1" windbreak boards.  We quickly found out how quickly pine can begin to rot or mold when stacked wet.  I'm located in central Montana in the Missouri breaks, so Ponderosa Pine is plentiful. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 20, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Have you read up on stickering on here?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 20, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
I cut them with a chainsaw, then set them on the mill to make a flat cut. And OSB is good for nothing .I Stay away from it . Go with maybe a 1" board. I think it will crack.  :)

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 20, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
I'm kind of jumping into the middle of an old post here, but could a guy glue and nail some OSB or plywood to the bottom of a cookie like this and have that keep the top from splitting? 

No.  It will still crack.  Mother Nature intends for all log cookies to crack, and you can't fool Mother nature. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 20, 2014, 09:57:22 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Dbergum.  The only success that I have ever had cutting cookies that did not crack was from a Walnut log that had been down and dead for probably 10 years or more.  And about half of them still cracked and the other half probably will in time.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 22, 2014, 01:32:16 AM
On the road again
Had some Maple to mill up and it was over a 100 mile drive, so it was an early morning and a long day. It was more an elongated pile of big short logs then a log deck. With no equipment on site, just a pair of the heavy log-rites log handling was the challenge of the day, and it was a steady flow all day. When the pile was gone and we shut down there was plenty enough quality craft wood to make a full load for a 24’ trailer. Started with just two helpers but it wasn’t long before they called in extra helpers. At the end of the day they all had received a good work out and the log-rite’s were receiving high praise. As was little Jo for her log handling abilities using the mill. She saved a run away with quick action of the clamp, as well as positioning a lot of odd shaped logs with precision, she had the hydraulics and I just nudged it with the PV as needed and held them in position.     
After finishing up we moved the mill another 25 miles further out to the next job all incense cedar. This customer is tied up over the weekend doing a learn-to-burn on the old house so we just set the mill up by the back barn that the lumber will be stored in. Save towing the mill a couple hundred miles and gives him something to line the logs up on.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 22, 2014, 09:46:27 AM
Sounded like a fine day Harvey.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 24, 2014, 07:39:32 PM
Sometimes it goes all wrong. :D
 

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That blade is all done. :D :D :D
Then it goes good.
 

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Wood goes out, That means money. :D :D :D ;D
Now I can give the money to Wood Mizer for more blades.
Is this lumber thing suppose to make money ::) :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 24, 2014, 07:45:20 PM
Hey you need a day off. I hear there is an  open house in Chesterville coming up.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 24, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
Now I can give the money to Wood Mizer for more blades.

Like was said in the movie the "Lion King".  It is all a big circle  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on March 24, 2014, 11:48:56 PM
Money? oh yes, plenty of money.

Profit?

 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on March 25, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
This morning’s commute was about 100 miles less than half was main highway or freeway, Jumped off the freeway and went up thru captain_crunche’s neck of the woods. Lot of storm damaged trees, and rough road signs as we went up and over the mountain. Passed a woodmizer set up with a full log yard. Do we have any members in the crow, Lorain Or area? My map does not load.

We had 43 incense cedar logs 8’ to 20’ with a simple cut list, largest you can get 8x8 or 6x6 rest 1x6 and 1x2 stickers. The fog had just cleared off at 10 am when I took this picture and topped out in the upper 70's*. It was a full day and we pulled in with just enough light to get everything put away for the night.


 

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profit?  :P nope not seeing it in the book  :)   ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 25, 2014, 09:23:13 AM
That sounded like a long day, but thankfully you were able to complete it in a day.  Those 1½ day jobs can be a strain on the profit line. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on March 30, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
Late last summer I spotted these "well seasoned" log piles just off the highway on the way in to town. I stopped and stuck my card in the gate.   The owner called me a couple of weeks later and I drove out to meet with him the next day.  He said he didn't really have a particular use for the lumber but he hated to see the logs go to waste and I agreed that it would be a shame to let that happen.  I didn't hear back from him until about three weeks ago when he called and said he was ready to go.
 

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Not a bad place to spend a few early spring days AND only 10 miles from the house.  You just never know where your next job will come from. :) 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 30, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
That's a nice picture. His trailers?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on March 30, 2014, 09:46:33 AM
Yep.  I see it, I saw it, I leave it. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 30, 2014, 10:38:42 AM
Vidi Serratus Departum? :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on March 30, 2014, 10:41:19 AM
I like it!  I think I'll add it to my business cards. :laugh:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 30, 2014, 12:38:22 PM
Nice job, Nice and flat and the logs up off the ground. Good way to work. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 30, 2014, 01:32:43 PM
I looked at this tree length whack this past week.  It's one of two to saw.   ;)
 

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These were removed from the building site for the customer's shop.  Pine, Oak, Poplar, and I even saw some Sweetgum.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 30, 2014, 02:23:53 PM
But will you saw the sweetgum you saw?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 30, 2014, 04:39:21 PM
Is that sand I see?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 30, 2014, 10:07:08 PM
  But will you saw the sweetgum you saw? 
Yup, sawing Sweetgum pays the same.   ;D

  Is that sand I see?
I noticed that reflection in the picture.  No, there is no sand on that location.  That is hard clay.  After this last rain, that is slick hard clay.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 31, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
It was nice today cutting , the wood did not freeze together after cutting  :D :D
Made some 2x4x10 and 2x6x10 out of hemlock
 

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Even some logs that I have not seen since last Dec.
 

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but I did have some ice on the logs  :D
 

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Now I'm having fun.  8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 31, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
Those last ones look like maybe you don't want to see them until next December, either. :D I didn't saw today, I bought some long hoses for a mill upgrade project, and walked in the woods to look at all the trees I can't cut now.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 31, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Those last ones look like maybe you don't want to see them until next December, either. :D I didn't saw today, I bought some long hoses for a mill upgrade project, and walked in the woods to look at all the trees I can't cut now.

The snow is deep in the woods. I tried to plow some snow with the John Deere, but no way. So I used big John and that worked  :D
I had a customer wanted some wood chips. You know the things are frozen 12" deep or better. I had to use Big John to break it up.
 

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The last pic the wood is a block of wood, You can't see the ice but it froze  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JohnM on March 31, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
but I did have some ice on the logs  :D
Peter, does the ice on the outside of the log effect/dull your blades any more or less than a frozen log?  I spent a bunch of time chipping ice off a log two or three weeks ago but have since decided it's a waste of time.  I will still bust off BIG/hard chunks but I was practically debarking them before. :D :-\ ::)  But that's with a circular blade on the Lucas.  Just curious how 'external' ice effects the band blades. ??? :P
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 31, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
I do chip off the ice when it's 6" thick  :D The thing with ice It will hold a ½" rock and that will dull the blade. The debarker will not all ways plow through the ice.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on April 03, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
It has been a great couple of days, three jobs out, one big one logged for next week.  Wish I had a cherry picker,
the logs coming Monday will be some dandys.  Tree length. I hope the Case (and Logger) are ready for it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on April 11, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
These are the logs that met us this morning, but the log owner didn't. Two need split and a third needs considerable chainsaw work. Got a call: ferior showed up, keys are in the cat. So we set up and started with the small logs. With moving in and setting up it was a short day. Little Jo done the sawing and most of the small logs were done when we called it a day. I have the big log set up on blocks ready to be split in the morning.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on April 11, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Well at least one of us was running the mill today ;)
 

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The big log was 44" and it split clean and straight.
 

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All these big logs have thick bark packed with lots of mud and rocks, since the bark was starting to slip I worked it all off and then trimmed the knots real close to round up the logs before splitting. The extra cut down the edge gives it a flat spot to stand up on the mill. Lot of extra chainsaw work on these logs. 
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 12, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
Yup, Little Jo ain't worried about you.  She is steadily sawing.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on April 12, 2014, 07:52:58 PM
Those logs look they would make great firewood  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 12, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
The big ones can be a hand full. That's a lot of work , Good job :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on April 12, 2014, 11:39:47 PM
The story behind these logs is why they will not go to firewood.
About twenty of these big old growth trees grew 40 miles west of where they are now, over in the steep coast range near Scottsburg where he later build a house with a view of the river valley. I did a site eval and it was a non workable site, solid rock witha steep slope, it would take a cat to take the mill up and down the mountain and no mill site along the road as it was a steep climb then made a loop up and around a ridge and back down to the midway point. The trees grew on shallow ground so steep they were concerned about the houses a quarter mile down the mountain when they took them down three years ago. They hired a self loader and had a D-8 take him up to the ridge then hook on behind and take him down the mountain.
I milled up a big batch for a house project and all of the beams for the barn project and these logs got set aside to be milled later for barn restoration project. Now they have started to rebuild the 100 yr old barn that had started to sag and lean. We are milling all siding and corral boards out of these logs. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on April 15, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
 

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Whittled on the big logs today.
Started by rounded all of the ugly off. To brake them down I made a cut all the way down thu the log with the 60” bar. Then climbed up on top of the 15’ logs and continued the cut going about 2/3 of the way thru the mid section. Finishing by climbing down off the log at the other end and cutting all the way down thru, drive a good metal wedge in each end of the log, flip it over so the cut is at a 45* bottom side up, drive another wedge in each corner, and use the other saw with a 32” bar to finish the cut, the top half slides away from you and the bar don’t get pinched.
The cat made positioning and moving the log as well as bark and sawdust clean up effortless. Which is good unless you leave the big saw on the back side of the log, unload load a stack of 1x12 onto the trailer and roll the log over the saw when you you come back and position the log.
Bar is fine, rest is questionable and will drop it off at the shop in the morning and find out the damage.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2014, 07:33:41 AM
I've been working on a order of 2x10x10' 6" red oak planks for a customer.

I needed one big log to finish off the order.

So I went down to the log pile and found this real nice red oak log that was 20" in diameter on the small end and 15' long. (My logger never measures oak logs, he just cuts them wherever he feels like it, stoopid I know).

Well, I had a lot of trouble moving this log with my backhoe as it was very heavy.

How heavy was it? Well the forum tool box says it was 2094 lbs. My calculations say it was closer to 3696 lbs. We can discuss the the way I figured the weight but that's another story.

Anyway, due to its heavy weight, it was very hard to move. I couldn't pick it up with my forks. So I would normally just put a choker cable around one end and then lift up one end and drag it down the driveway to the mill.

Well this log was so heavy that the backhoe (only two wheel drive) couldn't even drag it down the driveway to the mill.
And I don't have one of those nice log trailers like Dave Shepard has, yet. (note to self, get one).
So I had to resort to another method.
I tried putting a short piece of very round log under the big log so that it would "roll" and move down the driveway.
Well that didn't work because the log chunk I used was too short and the big log just fell off the "roller log".

So I go another smaller diameter but longer "roller log" and put it under the big log and that worked very good:

 

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The only problem was that I had to get off the machine and put it back under several times in order to get it all the way from the pile to the mill.

I really miss my broke down log truck.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2014, 09:28:56 AM
Not a good start to the day:

 

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I'll have to see what that is.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2014, 11:13:26 AM
Well, I made the next 2" cut and didn't hit a thing. So whatever it was, was only in that 2" plank.
I figured I would have hit it for sure.

I guess I lucked out on that one.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: DeerMeadowFarm on May 08, 2014, 01:43:56 PM
You have to get lucky once in a while Jim!  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
Well, my luck ran out on the way with the delivery of this lumber:




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I didn't have a spare with me. My spare for the trailer consisted of two new tires not on two rims I got from a salvage guy. So, I had to leave the trailer on the side of the road. But before I left it, I called the customer to send over one of his trucks so we could slide his (14) 2x10x10's off of the trailer onto his truck. Which he did. I didn't want to leave it on the side of the road with all that lumber on it.

After I got paid, I came back to the sawmill yard, got the two used tires I bought, two used rims that I swapped some lumber for and got a local garage to mount the tires. And got one of the new tires on the trailer. And it is home now.

What an afternoon.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 08, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
I like the catwalk next to the mill. Is that to keep you out of the mud?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
Peter:
Yes, but it wasn't muddy when I put them down, this time.
But it is nice walking on wood instead of hard ground.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 08, 2014, 08:37:30 PM
I have a sawdust catwalk  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 08, 2014, 09:35:10 PM
I have a sawdust catwalk  ;D.




 say_what
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 08, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
I walk on my sawdust too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 08, 2014, 09:49:39 PM
When it is muddy I regularly "pave" with sawdust. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on May 09, 2014, 12:07:07 AM
When it is muddy I regularly "pave" with sawdust.

Even when dry saw dust pavement is so much nicer to work on. I just keep it damp. and it smells nice un less its Poplar/Aspen! and that'll grow on you too. :D

 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on May 09, 2014, 12:34:03 AM
When it is muddy I regularly "pave" with sawdust.

Even when dry saw dust pavement is so much nicer to work on. I just keep it damp. and it smells nice un less its Poplar/Aspen! and that'll grow on you too. :D

 



You're still able to smell the sawdust!?  :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 09, 2014, 08:48:43 AM
  You're still able to smell the sawdust!?  :o 
  Most of us are suffering for auditory, and "odoritory" overload.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 14, 2014, 01:47:13 AM
When we arrived on site we walked the trail and it was soft, real soft we left some ruts getting in and out. I knew I could not pull one hill so the customer had his truck ready to pull me on in. I spun out right where I had dropped the chain. He hooked on and away we went on down the trail, watching a young oak it was aparent it was going to catch the saw head. I slid to a stop and as he spun he walked right off the side of the trail but I avioded contact with the tree and he was able to use hp to get back on the trail.
The site had a good slope to it and the legs on the mill were two clicks low on the rail side, so cut a few rounds and set up on four of them.
Good batch of Doug fir and pecky WRC.

and note Little Jo is doing the sawing while I am off taking pictures :D


 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 14, 2014, 07:32:58 AM
  and note Little Jo is doing the sawing while I am off taking pictures :D 
  Is seems as that is your new "normal".   ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 14, 2014, 07:39:11 AM
I have a sawdust catwalk  ;D.
Just last evening I thought about taking a picture  entitled "a river ran through it"  I use dust as a floor dry quite often as well, it works great and is so soft,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Looks like the logs rolled down to the mill ok. I have gone to jobs when the logs were on the downhill side. The customer did not know that a man can not roll a 1200lb log up hill alone. ::)
When he called back to say he put them on the uphill side I went to look . And the logs were piled high, Like a pyramid. ::)  So when you move one all would role to the mill , If you went for the top one It would be a good way to get killed or smash the mill :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 14, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
 ;D like this
 

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When we arrived the logs were on the lower edge of the landing no equipment on site and all he had was a ranger. We spent two hours waiting while he ran across the county to get his 3/4 4x4 that he towed me in with and then drug the logs around to the high side of the mill, which accualy cleaned some of the caked on mud off the logs. He was kicking him self because the logs had been on the uuper side of the landing at one point over the winter.

Pyromid stacks can be a challenge, and are best attacked from the bottom, but a big log on a big log can add a lot of resistance.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on May 15, 2014, 01:43:22 AM
backwoods, I don't know how you do it! I would just turn around and go home!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 17, 2014, 12:33:04 AM
The morning started off with a 25 mile drive to meet the customer at the end of a road. We were early and he was right on time. He pulled up and said follow me it is about 2 ½ miles of public land and 2 ½ miles of ranch roads, is that ok? And we headed up the mountain, even in four low second gear, I spun out on loose gravel in a tight turn. I keep a chain handy, when in the mountains. He hooked on and took me on up to a less steep section of the road. We wound on up the mountain, then turned off on a rough dirt road that wound down the other side of the mountain I thing we was headed north, south, east, west, towards china two creek crossings and 35 min later we arrived at the driveway which required squeezing between two trees to turn around in a flat spot so I get a straight shot at the hill with a rutted up grassy path.

We got right to work making sawdust, had to make a step for little Jo to run the control panel. (you can almost see her sawing) the little lawn mower with loader brought some good sized logs up the hill. Finished up 2200 bft of all 1" stock in six hours and took the slow drive back up and over the mountain. Had a short hill that I needed a tug up. The drive down off the mountain was slow. I had to take the steep parts in four low first gear to keep from heating the brakes.

He did tip good and Little Jo had a death grip on her seat belt as she looked off into the canyon below :o Flat lander :D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 17, 2014, 07:36:02 AM
With daily views like that one, I can see how a man could do this, and love it, beautiful country for sure,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 17, 2014, 08:08:14 AM
Good job, And 367 Bf an hour of 1" in the woods with no edger.
When you know your mill you can produce. The two of you make a good team.  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 17, 2014, 08:27:29 AM
Sounds like you made taking sawing to the "next level" a reality.  Congrats on a fine day.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 17, 2014, 11:36:19 PM
Todays customer was one who always has his ducks in a row. He sets the log in front of the mill with what he wants out of it painted on the end, has a helper or two handy to keep the sawdust flying so hourly rate always works out to be a better deal for him. At one point he had two trucks and a van backed up to the mill loading different sorts for each of his customers. 
The log deck by the truck was all doug fir except for the three Madrone logs in front, which we got seven mantel pieces out of.
 

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As you can see he likes board and bat.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 18, 2014, 06:50:50 AM
I like customers that know how to work. And all they want, Is you to cut and they do the rest  8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 18, 2014, 06:56:34 AM
I like customers that know how to work. And all they want, Is you to cut and they do the rest  8) 8)

X2 Peter!

It makes a world of difference!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 18, 2014, 07:10:27 AM
We all want customers like that. I'm glad you have one.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 18, 2014, 07:11:24 AM
I wish that I was that good of a customer when I cut for myself  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 18, 2014, 05:05:59 PM
I keep the best and send the rest  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 20, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
I'm getting more orders for lumber than on the road jobs. And I keep up with an inventory too. So I called some loggers  :D
3 loads today, I had to get the #1 one out of the way so the other 2 had a place to unload. 8)
 

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With all the cutting you get cull lumber, So I put all of it and sell it for  $1 for 1" and $2 for the 2". Customers use it for chicken house to raised beds
 

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Some of the logs had a little hook  :D
 

 



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and some big ones 24'
 

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And Ann and I lost a good friend today to cancer .  A sad day
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tmarch on May 20, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
Cancer is always a sad story, sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on May 20, 2014, 08:12:11 PM
Lost my dog MAX to bone cancer 2  weeks ago .
My best friend and best worker I ever had .
Sorry for your loss .
Jim Bruno of NH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 20, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Peter,sorry to hear of your loss. That cancer is bad.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: TimGA on May 20, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Sorry for your loss, amazing how attached we become takes a piece of you.  I love to see photos of your setup.
                                                           Tim
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 20, 2014, 10:44:16 PM
Sorry for your loss, Peter. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 20, 2014, 11:08:46 PM
Sorry for you guys loss of pets, we do get attached to them.

Lot going on in your log yard.

These White Oak were waiting for us this foggy morning. The black spots on the end of the top one was an old fence. The customer had trimmed the log off above the fence and to my surpprize never had any metal strikes today, we got all the big ones milled up today and should have a short day to finish off the rest of the deck tomorrow.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 21, 2014, 12:38:51 AM
I might add the customer done all the chainsaw work including splitting the big log, unfortunately he lost 6" out of the middle of the log.
This is my customer from H :-X This morning he insisted that I set up off the gravel on the soft ground. Sawdust pile is on the gravel ::) and the mill needed reset on his dime after the first big log as it was sinking in the red clay like I told him it would. Little Jo ranks him in the top three most agravating customers of her first year of sawing.   

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 21, 2014, 06:28:16 AM

This is my customer from H :-X This morning he insisted that I set up off the gravel on the soft ground. Sawdust pile is on the gravel ::) and the mill needed reset on his dime after the first big log as it was sinking in the red clay like I told him it would. Little Jo ranks him in the top three most agravating customers of her first year of sawing.   

 

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I won't work like that backwoods, And I don't care how much $ you have.
No Disrespect to you , Just the way I am.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Alcranb on May 21, 2014, 07:24:31 AM
Very sorry to read of your loss. Pets sure do have that knack of working themselves into your heart.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 21, 2014, 09:50:41 PM
Very sorry to read of your loss. Pets sure do have that knack of working themselves into your heart.

Yes they do. So how you and your mill getting along?



  I love to see photos of your setup.
                                                           Tim



The mill and edger
 

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John
 

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The yard
 

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logs Im trying to spalted :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 21, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
Good luck on the splating.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 21, 2014, 10:59:32 PM
Finished up the White Oak logs today. He needed 100 3x12's for two bridge decks, and he ended up with more then he needed.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 22, 2014, 07:02:51 AM
100 3x12's is a whack.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on May 22, 2014, 11:22:48 PM
My ol' friend Tedd actually lifted that log up over the eave of the building in the background with that fork truck.  Not the best judgement, but I was too scared for him to take a picture.  Whew!

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Scale maxed out on the 35.

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Bibbying down, we're getting closer to making the full 2" thick x 8" & 10" the customer wanted.  Ended up yielding 550bf, but I think I missed a few boards on the trailer.  The customer's stacking was a mess, and he kept his hands in his pockets too much.  Was kinda driving me nuts, but we got it done in about 4hrs.

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on May 22, 2014, 11:37:26 PM
Some serious twist to the grain in that log. How are the boards coming out of it, pretty straight (so far) ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on May 22, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
The boards were all good except there was some that were affected by a crack in the log.  Customer took more pics; I forgot to ask him to email them to me.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on May 22, 2014, 11:49:15 PM
I like those stacks drying in the background of the 3rd pic.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 23, 2014, 06:12:36 AM
Good job, Logs like that can be a hand full.  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 23, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
Recut some Douglass fir today.
 

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The customer is going to make bunk beds with it.
Some of Anns flowers
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: gullydweller on May 23, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
Beautiful douglas fir.  I am a new member but not a new reader.  I have enjoyed reading all the members posts for sometime now.  Not sure I have a lot to add to the conversations yet but thought I should register and let everyone know how much I enjoy soaking up the knowledge.

I am one year and three months into running my full time timber framing/whatever pays the bills business and loving it.  My first mill is coming in June and I can't wait.  The first project is cutting the timbers for my family's timber frame home I'm starting this summer.

I will try not to be too annoying with rookie questions.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 23, 2014, 08:51:42 PM
First mill coming in June? What is it? And welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: gullydweller on May 23, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
Thanks for the welcome.  It is a turner mill with the 24 horse honda, 36" bed width and I got a 30' trailer model so I can squeak a 25-26 footer on occasionally but still haul it to my dads when he has something to saw. I'm really excited.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 23, 2014, 09:00:48 PM
Don't forget the Logrite cantdog or peavey. Sponsor on the left.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 23, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Welcome to the Forum, gullydweller. Ask all the questions you want. Be sure to show us your timber framing stuff, too, in our timber framing section. That's what I do, when I'm not logging and milling timbers. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: gullydweller on May 23, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
I will have to have my wife show me how to upload pics to the forum, but I think that I got my link to my website set-up correctly if you click on the globe on my profile.  My wife is my web designer, she works for a software company.  Without her I would barely know how to check my email.  Joining the forum might be my first self directed technology advancement every.  Glad I did though.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 23, 2014, 09:59:34 PM
Welcome to the forestry Forum, gullydweller
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 23, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
Today we done something different. Tree service took the 36" Cedar tree down and the customer just wanted it removed. So we set the mill up went back and got the trailer, loaded both the lumber and the tailings on the trailer and hauled them off. It took two trips with the trailer, one at lunch and one at the end of the day, and another trip back over the mountain to get the mill. The customer did use all the sawdust.

We set the mill back far enough from the tree that we had room to manuver the logs. The first two we used the clamp and a pair of chains along with a pee-vee to get them turned and aimed at the loading arms, then just rolled them in with pee-vees.

Milled out a 10x12 shed package along with some benches out of a short log.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: TimGA on May 24, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
     Very nice.
                       Tim
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 24, 2014, 08:11:05 AM
A long time ago, I had my guy give me logs from a tree he was taken down. 
The logs were too big to move so I brought the mill over and cut it all up , He would not let me load the lumber on the truck.  :D :D :D
He payed me .65 a BF for it.  :D :D


Good job, Are you going to sell the shed kit?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on May 24, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
Are you going to sell the shed kit?
Nope this will be for my own us. Free log, $50 in gas, and a half day of milling, I did give him a couple of the bench boards and cut a sigh board for his driveway.
I see why everyone wants a sawmill  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 24, 2014, 05:23:20 PM
Nice work backwoods! nothing better than a load to go when it can be used.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: RPowers on May 24, 2014, 05:41:57 PM
I had a customer drop off a trailer of walnut pieces he salvaged from a neighbor with firewood intentions. How pretty this log would've been in one piece I could only imagine, and faster sawing too. You can see my size L work glove on one piece for scale. These were big enough that I needed my new friend for loading help. Old Ford 4400.
 

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Some Most of these presented clamping challenges due to the small size. Lotsa frustration when they kept trying to move.
 

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Some were at the mill's capacity for cutting live edge like the customer wanted.
 

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The larges two pieces had to be trimmed to fit so that I could thru-n-thru on the best figure. I think they turned out ok.
 

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Six hours later and the initial stack heap was turned into this.
 

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I'll tell him to get them from his neighbor next time before they hit the firewood pile, :). It really is amazing how people do not know what they have till after it is almost ruined, sometimes. That was my last Day Cutting Wood.

Ryan

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 24, 2014, 09:02:47 PM
Nice recovery RP,
Peter, did I see worms, or bores  In the fir?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 24, 2014, 10:16:32 PM
Nice recovery RP,
Peter, did I see worms, or bores  In the fir?


Nails. the customer worked 2 days pulling. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 25, 2014, 08:20:14 AM
Peter,I always like that creeping plox on a wall. Looks good. Lumber looks good too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 03, 2014, 10:29:46 PM
The sun was out, Good day to cut.
 

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More than ½ way , All 1x3=1x4=1x5 red pine. I think there was 5 logs big enough to get 12" wide lumber with ::)
All and All 5500 BF 2 days. 7hr day 400 BF an Hr cutting 3/4/5" wide wood with small logs with one tail man and no edger.
Bigger logs with bigger lumber 700+ BF can be done. :D
 

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The 5 big logs I got 1x12 and 10. and we did stick the 3 and 4s :D
 

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Giddy up :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dad2FourWI on June 03, 2014, 11:15:37 PM
That looks like a good day!

Nice job!!

I saw your platform for cutting too-small chunks... I often have small stuff to cut and this is always such a pain.... if you come up with any good ideas on how to handle those small pieces, please share! :)

-Dad2FourWI
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 16, 2014, 10:16:14 PM
Well the day started out busy.
 

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Empty, and go get more. :D :D


I cut a log today that had red rot  >:(
 

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W pine, I remember that log. I saw the red rot and - ½ the BF . But I lost money on that log . It was all rot.
Trying to keep wood ahead and the mats to is a hand full at times.
 

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I clean the mill at the end of every day. 150 PSI. and I like to get in the small spots too.
 

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Now it's clean :D :D :D

I started the saw dust building. :D
And fix the road
 

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See the 4' grade stake by the truck that's how far the mill shed is going. The 4' roof that's there now is coming off.
 

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You can see some of the 6x6x16' rafters. And my 24' ridge pole.3x8x24'  :D ;D
 

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A Day cutting wood smiley_horserider
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on June 17, 2014, 12:57:19 AM
Peter...If I had 3 guys like you workin for me, I wouldn't need 3 guys.  ;) :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on June 17, 2014, 07:18:18 AM
Peter...If I had 3 guys like you workin for me, I wouldn't need 3 guys.  ;) :D :D
I'd go fishing, ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 17, 2014, 07:21:09 AM
Looks like a well oiled machine.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 17, 2014, 05:46:10 PM
Peter, do you have any problems with mold?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 17, 2014, 06:37:51 PM
Peter, do you have any problems with mold?


Some, but it's from the rain. If I keep the lumber dry Im good.
The new addition will keep all this dry.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 23, 2014, 10:56:28 PM
A small job, all red pine.
 

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Be done Tuesday :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on June 24, 2014, 01:14:54 PM
I've got 2 Red Pine sawjobs coming up, first is about 2,500 bf 2x6's and 1Xwhatever, the second is 10,000 bf of 2X & 1X, then a bunch of D-Logs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 25, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
Lately I have been cutting a lot of red pine . We have a bug killing them in NH. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 28, 2014, 06:41:32 AM
A logger friend came in with this
 

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You can see the outside 4" of the slabs with all the curl . Hard maple.
The pics don't show how nice it is, But I have not seen this nice in a long time.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on June 28, 2014, 12:12:53 PM
Peter you don't see wood like that very often, should make a nice project.


Milled a Pondaros Pine yesterday, it was all the old two wheel drive Kabota with rear forks could do to nudge it around on the hill side. The pine boards just glisten from all pitch ::)
The customer had built a solar kiln since I last milled for him, only down side to it is the little door to load and unload it thru it has maple in it from the last milling we done and he showed off a real nice end table made out of Madrone but the pic did not turn out do to lighting. He has more trees ;D 
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 01, 2014, 10:20:55 PM
Hot to today, but did get some pine cut and logs scaled. :D
 

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I found a w pine that got hit by lightning, But it cleaned up well.
Sometimes not. And I'm pith at myself for not seeing it when I scaled it.  It could have been junk, Just as easy. :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on July 01, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
Nice shots around your mill ! ;D Personally ,I'm eying that air-conditioned JD in the background . Hot as heck here  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 01, 2014, 10:45:23 PM
Nice shots around your mill ! ;D Personally ,I'm eying that air-conditioned JD in the background . Hot as heck here  8)

It was 50° in John today.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on July 01, 2014, 10:58:14 PM
I'm moving out of my house and into your JD !!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  92 in here tonight -----
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: GDinMaine on July 03, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
Peter,
What would be the sign of lightning struck log (tree) when looking at the end of the log?  The picture you posted gives an excellent example of what the bark looks like.  How does it or does it show in the log ends?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 03, 2014, 09:47:07 PM
Peter,
What would be the sign of lightning struck log (tree) when looking at the end of the log?  The picture you posted gives an excellent example of what the bark looks like.  How does it or does it show in the log ends?



With soft wood it can be hard, but there will be a rot line.
Hardwood will be all split, I'm not sure why, But lightning will go all over with a hardwood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 07, 2014, 06:35:25 PM
Did a delivery today 550 bf of w oak 4x 5/4 10' and 12'
Went to a timber frame I cut out. This last winter.
 

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All the 45° are red oak the frame is w pine.
 

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The timber framer has 2 more to put up and one to move and one to fix. Told me to get a lot of hemlock. :D :D can do. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 07, 2014, 08:27:07 PM
I am sure that makes you proud.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 07, 2014, 08:50:13 PM
I like your style Peter.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ozarkgem on July 07, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
I like your signs telling what is in the lumber stack. I may steal the idea. Timber frame homes are kick ash. Cool as can be.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 07, 2014, 09:54:05 PM
I am sure that makes you proud.


I like your style Peter.   ;D




I try to do a good job like you two guys do.
WDH I do have a lot of pride in the thing I do, Maybe too much, I have a tendency to show off some. :D :D
You know when I cut all the timbers I made sure they were square, And the framer had a guy use a hand plane on all 4 faces and 45° the corners. So to make them look old :D :D
There must be timber frames down there too, Or is it a northern thing?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 07, 2014, 09:58:28 PM
I like your signs telling what is in the lumber stack. I may steal the idea. Timber frame homes are kick ash. Cool as can be.



It keeps me on John, And not up and down all day.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on July 07, 2014, 11:12:40 PM
Nothing wrong with being proud. It is all hard  work, and dedication to it.  Keep it going as I see it, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: DeerMeadowFarm on July 08, 2014, 02:07:53 PM
Nice work and photo documentation Peter. I enjoy seeing what you've been up to!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 09, 2014, 07:31:48 AM
Nice work and photo documentation Peter. I enjoy seeing what you've been up to!



Thanks,

I went around Monday and pick up some logs that I had since March.
The bugs are starting to get in them. I don't like to lose wood so I cut them into boards.
 

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You can see the things, about ½ the size of rice.

That log has a split in it, you can see I put it on the side. That way it will be in one or two boards.
 

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But I did get some nice ones 16" wide 16' long. And no blue stain.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 09, 2014, 07:51:20 AM
Nice lumber.  I see that slipped bark condition very often when sawing customer's logs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 09, 2014, 09:42:34 PM
Nice lumber.  I see that slipped bark condition very often when sawing customer's logs.


Yes, the bark is coming off now is the time to cut them up. In 2 to 3 weeks I will lose ½ the BF of the logs, Can't make money that way :D :D :D


A job showed up today, With a little truck. Loader on the back, nice setup :D :D
 

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Hard to see It was getting late, But the truck will bring 15 8' logs at a time. 4 to 5 loads all w pine.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 09, 2014, 10:01:29 PM
How come you guys have all of the cute trucks with the loaders?  Ain't fair!!   8)

He would also have to blow that horn for me.   ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 09, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
There's an outfit 3 towns over sells the loaders. I have been thinking about putting one on a trailer.
 But I have too much going on .  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 11, 2014, 10:39:18 PM
A small job came in today, Will get the cut list sat.
 

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The black end ones are to be 4x4 :D :D  :D



Today I had a log that was split 2 ways, No way to get around it. Had to recut it.
 

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See it, sometimes having the extra 24' is nice, Can go 2 thing at the same time. :D :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on July 13, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
nice !!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on July 13, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
We was sawing today too.  Took the Kubota over as well to help out, the fella had his logs in neat rows, but not stacked so they were long rows, and I didn't want to move the saw.  We were knocking on 1500bf at about 430pm, then as I was counting up boards the phone rings, and I got called in to work tonight, unbelievable....  It was white pine and red oak, some pretty nice stuff.

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 13, 2014, 07:51:27 PM
Wow, those are extra long forks on that tractor.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on July 13, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
Wow, those are extra long forks on that tractor.

They are 48" ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on July 13, 2014, 07:57:37 PM
Nice whack there chkhawk,  just wondering, are the skeeters bad around that pond?  and that lemonade looked pretty good too!  thought I would check again, I guess I have lemonade on the brain,  oh well nice work,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on July 13, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Wow, those are extra long forks on that tractor.

I think it's just an extra small tractor for the size of the forks. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on July 13, 2014, 08:36:51 PM

I think it's just an extra small tractor for the size of the forks. :)

Why ya gotta be like that? :D

I didn't see any lemonade today.  Drobertson, you must have it on the brain ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 13, 2014, 10:11:30 PM
Good job.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 16, 2014, 07:20:34 AM
New guy,
 

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Had a mix of hard and soft wood.
New guy will bring in a little wood and see how I do with price and scale. :D :D And if I pass, then there will be more wood coming in 8) 8).


Had I customer send over some wood for me to cut.
 

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Next week job, Sometimes I don't know what the customer is thinking  :D :D :D What do you do with THIS :D
 

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W oak and w pine


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 16, 2014, 07:28:53 AM
You throw it into the woods for the bugs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on July 16, 2014, 08:00:02 AM
Looks like something I would put in my OWB.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on July 16, 2014, 08:11:55 AM
That butt looks like some of the stuff I received this week. Between nails and rot I'm going to lose my own butt.....I'm paying 5$ per mile to truck logs in and the log broker sends me junk like your photo. The rest of your load does look pretty good though ! Rob
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 16, 2014, 08:59:48 AM
Looks like that tree was removed, had to be hauled off, and your place became the dumping ground.   :-\

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on July 16, 2014, 07:50:48 PM
Must be nice, not sure but it seems that there are not many mills in your area, keep it going!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on July 16, 2014, 10:45:38 PM
I went to pick up my mill this morning after getting called in to work at my real job sunday and monday night and found the customer had stickered all the lumber which gave me an opportunity to get a few pics of the whack of boards.  You will see some of the accidental QS from cutting larger logs into two 6" cants or a 6" & 8" cant and sawing them together.  Also noted is that the customer hemmed my mill in with his stack about 2-3' in front of the trailer tongue.  Needless to say I left without the mill.  He has about 1700bf more to saw according to what I scaled this morning, so I guess he didn't want me to leave.  It would help if he would answer his phone however, so I can make arrangements to finish it up thur &/or fri.

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Oak on the left and white pine on the right.
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on July 16, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Nice small batch of D-Fir and Inc Cedar
 

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And this ugle black oak, Nice figure but low recovery
 

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Only one saw for the 2,000 bft day in mixed spiecies of dirty cat moved logs ;) I'm liking these saws 8)

A around 3:00 a little buck stood up by the rootwad just past the oak with the saw on it, I guess seven hours of watching the mill got boring ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 17, 2014, 06:47:22 AM
The black oak is ugly :D :D



drobertson, There are 5 other mills in town, they just don't like to work :D :D


thechknhwk, I hope you get your mill out :D Some customers don't think :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 17, 2014, 07:34:33 AM
In the "travel position" my sawmill tongue only weighs about 75 pounds.  I can turn the sawmill around by hand if it is on relatively level ground.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 17, 2014, 07:57:15 AM
He should remove that tarp, too. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on July 22, 2014, 10:48:37 PM
In between caring for a 95 year old mother, taking her to her doctor's and dealing with all the issues with that, I managed to cut some wood today.
First day since I've been back from my trip to NC.

A fellow called me up who had a 13" diameter log about 4' long and wanted it cut in half to make a bench seat. He said he had some "stump" pieces that he wanted cross cut to make the legs for the bench.
I told him to load up everything and come on over.
He said he'd be over in a half an hour.

Ok, one cut down the middle and cross cut the stumps with the chain saw, easy enough.

Shortly after that, a new customer calls and asks if I have some 1" pine boards on hand. And that he needed 132 lineal feet of it, random widths. I told him I did and he said he'd be over in about an hour.

Great two sales in one day, easy.

Well the first guy shows up and we proceed to saw his log into two bench seats. I sliced off one side of the log and flipped it 180° to slice off the opposite side. Blade marks on the log showed it was dull.

I figured it was only going to make three cuts and I thought it would go ok.

Half way through the center cut the blade breaks.

Well, it was an old blade and I was risking it taking more cuts after seeing the dull blade marks on the log.

I replace the dull broken blade with a "fresh out of the box" resharp blade and follow it down the center cut. Snap broke the blade.

I never had anything like that ever happen before. Two broken blades in one cut in one log. never.

Ok, so now we're on the third blade.
Instead of risking it down the middle of the same cut, we spin the log end for end. And it slices through it like a hot knife and butter.
I thought that maybe there was some metal in the log and both blades hit it and that's what caused them to break. But no metal showing after separating the two halves.

Customer decides to take another one of the logs he brought and process it the same way. We do and all is fine.

As I'm finishing up the second log the second customer shows up. He see a pile of lumber there and starts making a major mess of it taking out things and not working his way down from the top.
I mentioned to him that I'd be a few minutes and I'd be right over and help him with his order.

He asks if he can start loading up pieces. I told him that I needed to write it all down as it was being loaded.
Well, they where in a van and started sliding 16' and 14' long 1x8's into the van as I walked out with my clipboard.
I told the first customer to sit in his truck with his daughter and cool off a few minutes while I dealt with them to get them out of here so we could go back to making his "rustic" benches.

He did.

So, I ask them if they still need 132' of stock. He said he was way off on that. I asked what did they need the lumber for? I didn't get a straight answer.

We picked through some lumber and they loaded up three 1x8x16, one 1x8x12 and one 1x8x14.
I left them to come in and figure their bill. When I got back that asked it if would be ok if they took the lumber out of the van and cut each piece in half, in length so that they could easily transport the lumber in the van.
I was not happy hearing this.
I had an order for some 1x8x14's and was going to work on getting these out and ready for that customer, before these guys came along and bought up what was right on top and ready.
I mentioned to them that I wasn't happy about them taking my long stock if they only needed 8' pieces. I told them I had a lot of 8' pieces that I could easily sell them instead of taking all of these and cutting them in half. That sentence fell on deaf ears.

So they pulled the van up and out of the way and proceeded to cut each one in half while I figured their bill.

After they paid me and I thought they were done, I went back to the first customer and continue with him, by selling him some pieces of an 8x8 timber cut to 12" lengths to make "legs" for his benches.
I mentioned to him that I wasn't happy about them buy my long stock only to cut it in half right in front of me. I'm not sure if they heard me or not. But shortly thereafter one of them comes over and tells me he needs two more 1x8x8's. I sell them two of those. And off they go.

I don't know why that bothers me to see my long lumber cut in half, but it does, when I have shorter lumber on hand that they could use.

All in "a day cutting wood"......

End rant.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on July 23, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
Jim, I've been trying to fix that by charging more per board foot on the longer stuff. Then if someone wants to cut my 16' into 2 8' pieces, I don't care, because they paid extra for the privelege ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 23, 2014, 06:44:21 AM
Some days are like that, Jim.  barbender I do the same thing longer is more
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on July 23, 2014, 07:35:22 AM
How much more are you guys charging? 10 cents? 15 cents? I charge 25 cents more for longer than 16' stock.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on July 23, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
Not much sawing today, but loading up for the charcoal kiln,
 

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this last pile may very well be torched, but time will tell. price is 15 bucks a ton, so it depends on the heat,  this should have been handled long ago.  My fault.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: leroy in kansas on July 23, 2014, 07:33:14 PM
drobertson, can u give a bit more information on the charcoal kiln ? I'm not familiar with this operation.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 24, 2014, 06:36:07 AM
How much more are you guys charging? 10 cents? 15 cents? I charge 25 cents more for longer than 16' stock.

Jim Rogers


Hi Jim, I'm at .70 a BF for 16' lumber to 20' From there I go 1.00 a BF to 24' then up all depends on how big the wood is.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on July 26, 2014, 11:53:53 PM
Hit the road early this morning as it is 90 miles to the mill site out in a hot field. (They could see the smoke from the Springfeild mill that burnt to the ground last week)  Got set up and going good making a stack of wood when this customer doubled his original cut list. A couple hours later we started getting error messages “low voltage” made a few checks, Alternator is dead, finished the log on the mill, pulled the alternator, went to town and got one ordered for in the morning, lined up another milling job in the area while at the parts store and since we were twittling our thumbs and this trip was looking like a lot of red ink we took a side trip up in the mountains to a favorite swimming hole and cooled down for a while before making the trip back home.
I have some schedule shuffling to do since we were running a tight schedule for the next couple weeks as it was.
 
Passed a sawmill in the area but no fresh sawdust ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 27, 2014, 08:06:00 AM
   
Passed a sawmill in the area but no fresh sawdust ::) 
  I see that quite often.  I just scheduled a sawjob that is 90 miles away.  I will pass three FF members and several other sawmills sitting seemingly idle. 

I noticed an unusual bump on the side of a sawmill tire Thursday, so I gotta get a new one tomorrow.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 27, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
   
 

I noticed an unusual bump on the side of a sawmill tire Thursday, so I gotta get a new one tomorrow.   :-\





Didin't you have that before? And is it on the same side of the mill?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 27, 2014, 01:36:01 PM
No, it was the mate on the other side.  I guess that goes to show that tires of the same age should be replaced in pairs??   ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: leroy in kansas on July 27, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
No, it was the mate on the other side.  I guess that goes to show that tires of the same age should be replaced in pairs??   ???

Magic, M. How old were your tires. I never get tires on the trailer worn down to replace them. They just get old and go bad. Seems like I have to replace about each 5-6 years.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 27, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
Same here.  The OEM tires separated and bulged, and now both of these replacements have done the same thing.  I keep them properly aired, but that sawmill does weigh over 4K lbs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on July 28, 2014, 01:50:07 AM
Glad you caught it when you did ;)
When I bought the mill it had a new set of tires, I have changed two on the rail side and one on the loading arm side. A large tailing slipped while off loading and landed edge on the tread on the rail side couple months later I was changing that tire other then that they reached the six year experation date on them.

Went to pick up the alternator at the auto parts store and it had been delivered to another store 25 miles farther north out on the west side of Eugene, entered the address in the GPS drove up and picked it up. They swapped the pulleys saving me a tailgate swap. 10 min after getting on site the alternator was installed and tested good and first log was being loaded on. 230 miles, small pitchy pine with lots of taper and deformities, we still got 1,600bft, used two swirt bottles of deisle along with soap water, had to clean the globs of pitch off the bed rails several times. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ladylake on July 28, 2014, 06:34:04 AM

 If I was running a WM on the road I'd have a spare alternator in my parts box..  Steve
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on July 28, 2014, 08:16:07 PM

 If I was running a WM on the road I'd have a spare alternator in my parts box..  Steve

x2
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 28, 2014, 09:20:41 PM
In over 12 years of sawing and over a Million bf sawed, I have experienced one alternator failure.  It was rebuilt that day at my alternator shop and I was sawing the next morning.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ladylake on July 29, 2014, 06:58:52 AM
  Well being as were bragging I've sawed over 2 million bf and never had a alternator failure,  anyway from reading posts on here WM alternators do go out quite a bit due the heavy work load and I sure would carry a spare when I saw quite a ways from home.  I sure carry spare parts for my TK such as belts, guide rollers, solenoids for the up down motor, toggle switches to name a few.  Steve
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 29, 2014, 07:24:24 AM
No brag intended.  I was clearly addressing the alternator life, not mine, and I completely agree with the list of spare parts that Steve listed above.  Only a few weeks ago, a seized cam follower was a 15 minute pause instead of a couple of days shutdown.  Mechanical failures will happen and good judgement prevails.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on July 29, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
Well I guess I should have carried a spare alternator for the car as well ::) Came in  last night with lights getting dimmer by the mile. But do have a spare car ;D
Agree with the full parts boxes but it is hard to tote along a spare mill :-\
A good many things you can tell when they start to go bad and can be carried for when they are needed. Both alternators just stopped working with no warning. I did keep the core and will have it rebuilt but do to space in the truck it will live on the shelf in the shop ;)
 

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Any guesses?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 29, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
Looks like a "Chunky Stone"?
 

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That our Native Indians used during a game of skill, but I guess that yours is something different.   ???

Geode??
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: biggkidd on July 29, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
You guys might want to check out DG electrical on the net. I could put a link but some sites frown on that. I've had great luck with them. One time I did have a problem had a replacement in less than a week. Only a one year warranty but the prices are good and shipping is super fast. They carry most things electrical. Also many times have over size alternators in the same case as factory. All new no core charge either.

  Larry
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on July 29, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
I just bought an alternator, from Ga Mtn Man a couple weeks ago!

Yesterday "a rain day" I took it to the Auto Electric Shop to have it checked for output and to have a pulley put on it, I also took the one off the sawmill and had that one rebuilt, it's been about 3-4 years now.

Cost $59.97, now I have 2 good alternators for the mill.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on July 29, 2014, 09:19:28 PM
I just bought an alternator, from Ga Mtn Man a couple weeks ago!


He buys those things on EBAY, paints them up and goes fishing. You didn't bite did you Larry?  :D

(I'm just kidding the both of you.  :) )
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on July 30, 2014, 04:07:43 AM
Good info on the alternators.

That is a ball of Gritts "well sort of"
It is a ball of pitch that was gathered off the mill with some sawdust neaded in to keep it from being to sticky to handle. Had a helper who was bored and the pine logs were candidates for an ugly log contest ;) Sure gummed up the mill, The clamp would not raise, everything engadging, but the clamp would just wiggle, spayed it with PB blaster and tapped it with mini Thore as it was being worked and the pitch ran off it. Picked up a pitch braclet on both arms from handling the tailing, went thru twice as many saws as they were dirty logs to boot ::)   
Brought the mill home and it was pushing midnight when we pulled in after four days of early morning and late nights with over with 800 miles on the road, conflicting weather men had it it 90-100 ??? just know it was on the warm side everyday.
Rest of the week will be in county, milling barn siding and enjoying the heat ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 30, 2014, 07:09:41 AM
Pitch!!  Thankfully my guess was just a guess because I have never dealt with that much pitch.  Uggg.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on July 30, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
Backwoods, you should get an award for long distance milling. It seems like all of your jobs are a long haul. I can sometimes go months without going more than 25 miles from home for any reason, never mind towing a mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 01, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Pulled in to this whack of logs and got started milling barn siding Got thru half the stack with a good day of milling, all 3/4" other then a few 2x6's.

Will head out to the next milling site, 90 mile drive, over the weekend.

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 01, 2014, 09:57:03 PM
Nice set up 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 04, 2014, 12:55:21 AM
 

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This is the lumber that came out of those logs, couple logs had some sweep but for the most part they were nice logs with small knotts. The logs had been handled during the muddy season, and the bark was slipping so we debarkerd the worst ones as they came across the mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 04, 2014, 08:37:43 AM
Nice whack.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 04, 2014, 07:57:13 PM
Backwoods, that is gettin' er done  ;D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 05, 2014, 07:48:05 AM
I just looked it up, back in 09 a friend from high school whom I had sold lumber to many times, asked me to cut him some 5/4 wide boards for making up some barn doors for his new place he just moved to in Maine.
He told me he wanted 25 pieces of wide lumber 8' long minimum and as wide as I could make them, up to my limit of 24".
I went down to the log pile and got the biggest diameter log I had on hand. I cut it up making 12 pieces of 24" 22" 20" 18" 16" and a few 14" pieces. But I only got 12 pieces out of that log.
So, I went down to the log pile and got the second biggest log in the pile and brought that up to the mill and sawed it out. Again getting some nice wide stock.
Both of these logs were 12' long.

I figured out the bdft and there was 700 ft in the pile of 25 pieces. I called him up and told him that his order was done. I wanted $1 a bdft so he owed me $700.

Oh my god, you'd have thought I just shot him in the foot. "$700 dollars for wide lumber?" Yes, that's what you ordered that's what I want.
Ok, we'll I'll be down in a few days and pick it up.
I never heard or saw him again. Ever.
After a while I looked up online to see if anyone else around me had 5/4 wide lumber being advertised for sale.
I found one guy in NH and he wanted $5 a bdft for his wide 5/4 lumber.

I have been sitting on this wide lumber since 09.

Every once in a while I'd sell off one or two boards.
Once I had to rip them back to 12" for a customer who wanted some 5/4 boards.

Yesterday, without an appointment, a customer comes into my yard.
He wanted some wide lumber.
I told him I had this nice pile of 5/4.
"Just what I wanted..."

I got the fork lift going and moved all the lumber lifts off the top of the pile and got it out to show him the stock.
He said he'd buy it but he didn't have any cash.
I told him we could work that out.
He said he didn't have anything to tie the lumber down to his small pickup truck with him and he'd have to come back.
I didn't want this guy to leave without this wood.
"what do you need from me in order to take this wood with you?" I asked.
He said he needed each 12' piece to be cut in half to fit into his short bed pickup truck.
I told him "no problem, I've got every kind of saw you can imagine to cut these into shorter pieces".

I got out my skil saw 125' feet of extension cords and proceeded to cut every board in half so he could load up his truck.

 

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He took just about all the pile I had left.
And he was happy.
I was happy that this lumber is finally out of my yard.
Only one or two pieces left and if they don't sell, then I'll use them on one of my projects.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 05, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
Your friend from High School is a Shmuck and a Dork. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 05, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
And he was not much of a "friend". 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 05, 2014, 10:45:52 PM
five years ott to be well seasoned. How many times did you shuffle it around over the years?

Took another 90 mile road trip.
 

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 It was a side hill setup  ::)
 

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If the last one was a whack of lumber this is a whacky whack, or at least a whacky cut list ::)
 

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He snuck in this white walnut :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mikeb1079 on August 05, 2014, 10:49:14 PM
there have been but a few times reading this forum that i literally laughed out loud, and this one of em:

Quote
Your friend from High School is a Shmuck and a Dork.

 :D :D

the other was when magicman told poston:

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not only are you ugly, you can't see good neither.

 :D :D

glad to see you  got that lumber moved jim!   8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rasman57 on August 05, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Jim,
Glad it finally worked out for you.  Guys like him one day find themselves in a bad spot with no bridges out because they have burned them all.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 06, 2014, 05:51:48 AM
Jim,
Glad it finally worked out for you.  Guys like him one day find themselves in a bad spot with no bridges out because they have burned them all.

Thanks for all your comments, and it is true one day it will all come back to him.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on August 06, 2014, 07:22:49 AM
Jim, you can take a couple of deep breaths and relax now!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 06, 2014, 07:27:26 AM
When this new customer said he wanted that wood, I wasn't going to let him leave without it for sure. I have had it at the bottom of a pile for many years, and now it's almost all gone. I think there is only two pieces left. And they are pretty low grade. I might just cut them up for another project and get rid of them.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 06, 2014, 06:00:49 PM
I'm glad it all worked out for you with the wood Jim.

Today was the last hemlock mat load to go out 12,ooo BF
 

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ByeBye. :D :D 8)


Now the customer wants Hardwood Mats. That's a 16' with a 10" top log that everyone want's.
Now there mat logs and not firewood logs anymore $$$$$$$$$ :D :D :D
You know pallet grade.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2014, 07:50:44 PM
Do you build the mat, or just supply the timbers?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on August 06, 2014, 08:56:34 PM
Just finished up a sawjob today, 9,669.1 bf of Red Pine.
 
That was a lot of logs!  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 06, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Yes, that is a large sawjob.  What dimensions?  Pictures?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on August 06, 2014, 09:26:57 PM
Good show fellows!  looks like the milling is going very well for you folks!  really glad to see it and happy for you, it's lots of work as most know,  keep this lil day of sawing  show going for us want to bee's   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 06, 2014, 09:33:24 PM
Today I traveled some 40 miles or so to view this nice whack of logs....(er firewood?)

And this is what I saw:

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And from another view:

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These came from one tree that they took down in April or May and have been waiting a while for me to get available to come over there and saw them up.

That brick building in the background is the district court house. I don't know how their going to like hearing me sawing logs while court's in session. I may find out.

I mentioned to the coordinator that they had put me between a shrub and a hard place. And he didn't get it.

I explained with my drawing of a sawmill yard set up that the logs all had to be rotated 90° in order for me to roll them up onto the loader arms while I'm parked on the lawn with the sawmill.

He had no idea how we were going to do that.
I explained that if he had two or three helpers from this "teen center" that we could do it no problem with my log moving tools. Logrite to the rescue.

Being that it's a non profit center getting money out of them is going to be a challenge. I already discounted my fee $200 in order to help them out. But I am insisting on being paid when the job is done, on the day that I do it.

I explained that I'm not a "non profit" outfit, but sometimes it feel like I am, for sure.

Jim Rogers
Signed "between a shrub and a hard place".....
 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 06, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
Nice Logs Jim, :D :D smiley_thumbsup





Just finished up a sawjob today, 9,669.1 bf of Red Pine.
 
That was a lot of logs!  ::)





That's a lot of logs is right. Did the mill stay in one spot and feed it?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 06, 2014, 09:55:28 PM
Oh my Jim.  Sometimes we are placed in a very unenviable position.  You are in one now.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 06, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Do you build the mat, or just supply the timbers?


Just the timbers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on August 06, 2014, 10:06:32 PM
I would presume, that not even Jim is going to bite on sawing up that pile of wood.  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on August 06, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
Jim. The moment you hear "non-profit", turn on your heel and RUN!!!!!

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on August 06, 2014, 10:09:50 PM
Just finished up a sawjob today, 9,669.1 bf of Red Pine.
 
That was a lot of logs!  ::)

9,669.1.......... You my friend must have a very sharp pencil...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YoungStump on August 06, 2014, 10:34:05 PM
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Some days your the saw, some days your the mouse. Another day cutting wood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 07, 2014, 01:17:32 AM
Jim Rogers
Signed "between a shrub and a hard place".....
I presume by the Hour, A log rite training class is in order, as a pair of log rites will spin the logs rite around if heeled correctly.

Just finished up a sawjob today, 9,669.1 bf of Red Pine.
 
That was a lot of logs!  ::)

Roughly 120 logs or so ???
the tailing pile can be the biggest challenge on a job that size unless the tailings are moved from time to time. Thats makes a nice pile of wood.
pics? ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on August 07, 2014, 05:05:30 AM
Poor mouse,he never saw it coming.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on August 07, 2014, 07:55:26 AM
The Red Pine logs that I sawed were in 3 separate piles and the "average" diameter was 10", with a few up to 16" and a bunch around 8".

Ice storm wiped out a lot of this customers Red Pine grove!  He had chippers, pulpers and me involved!

There were around 200 logs in this job!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on August 07, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
Youngstump, I've seen all to many of these types of culls, but never a mouse in the knot hole!  crazy stuff there for sure!
 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on August 08, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
boy, nice logs for sure !
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 08, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Your friend from High School is a Shmuck and a Dork.

I think Putz would be more accurate. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 10, 2014, 08:56:52 PM
Your friend from High School is a Shmuck and a Dork.

I think Putz would be more accurate. ;D

All of the above..... for sure.....

Jim Rogers

P.S. I have told everyone who ever mentions his name to me how he burned me, and that I am pithed at him. So I'm sure it has gotten back to him by now.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 10, 2014, 09:01:18 PM
Guys like that don't care what you think. I bet he has 20 guys pith at him. But he will call you again, You watch :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 12, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
 

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Yesterdays milling was the ugly duckling job. Started off with an over sized Walnut that had been hacked on with a chainsaw. Then a batch of Mayple, and since we were there he just had to knock down this Myrtlewood turned out to have a dog cable wrapped around it :-\ oh and it was 105*
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 12, 2014, 12:22:22 PM
Sometimes a customer has some strange ideas. Good job you did 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Small Slick on August 12, 2014, 10:41:04 PM
I had a really big day on Sunday. I finally got to saw something other than pine!  I have been making boards for my cabin, mostly flooring and siding; all out of red and white pine.

My father in law had given me a nice 9.6' red oak about 18" on the small end. I spoke with Steve from Red Oaks (my version of Yellow Hammer University) and he gave me some pointers on how to handle oak. Thanks Steve.

I have been anticipating seeing quarter sawn oak that I cut on my mill.... I was really cool.

John.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 13, 2014, 12:21:21 AM
Sounds like a good log, always nice to open up a good log and make quality lumber with the proffesser ;D 8) 8)

 

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Went out and marked up these White Oak logs for next weeks milling, right after the redwood. Did mark off a fence on one log.
The youngest boy got his permit today so I let him make the 65 mile drive taking all county roads, you know the ones that don't have all the white line on the asphault with a view of the river below. Only a few teeth marks in the drivers manual :D ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 13, 2014, 12:14:54 PM


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Yesterdays milling was the ugly duckling job. Started off with an over sized Walnut that had been hacked on with a chainsaw. Then a batch of Mayple, and since we were there he just had to knock down this Myrtlewood turned out to have a dog cable wrapped around it :-\ oh and it was 105*

At least it wasn't too hot. ;D smiley_bat_morph smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_bat_morph teeter_totter smiley_devil_trident
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Deese on August 13, 2014, 12:46:55 PM
Poor mouse,he never saw it coming.  :D

Don't know how this one was missed...Good One  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 14, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
Today I went around and pick up some logs in the yard, The bugs are just starting to get into them . All w pine.
 

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I made them all one inch. I won't lose BF I payed for. 
August is hot up here and you have to watch the pine. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 14, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
I've got those little sawdust piles on some of my logs. I'm not worried, that band zips right through those bugs.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on August 15, 2014, 07:02:58 AM
I've got those little sawdust piles on some of my logs. I'm not worried, that band zips right through those bugs.  :D

If they've got bugs in them, you can cut back on your blade lube!   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 15, 2014, 07:32:01 AM
I've got those little sawdust piles on some of my logs. I'm not worried, that band zips right through those bugs.  :D





I know, But my customers don't like holes in their lumber.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on August 16, 2014, 02:33:26 PM
Wormy wood= premium price if you can find the right woodworker. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 22, 2014, 10:30:18 AM
Monday morning started off with a 60 mile drive and destroying a saw on the first cut of the first log, ¼ of the teeth gone, ¼ bent over 90* rest chewed up. Finished up the third log and put on the forth saw. After that we were able to set a good pace and finished up the day with just under 3,000 bft of oak flooring all 7” wide. It all went into a dump trailer and it was a bit over loaded and I had asked if he wanted to swap out trailer but he had insisted that it all would fit in the trailer and I would not overload it as it could haul 10,000lb .

Started getting invaded about noon by these little two legged fir balls, they were coming thru the log deck and hanging out under foot, so little Jo started gathering them up and putting them in a box, before long there was 14 baby quail  in the box. Later they were successfully reunited with the parents.

Tuesday we finished up the oak with just over 3,000bft this time he had two trailers ready, he had weighed the first load and the wood weighed almost 15,000 lb.

Wednesday we moved the mill 50 miles to a new site and milled a 1,500bft incense cedar tree. The butt log had to be split as it was over 40”. First log had a dozen metal strikes ,  later sawed thru a ½” lag bolt, took four saws to mill one tree, these are third run Cooks saws that are cutting great to start with but they still don’t hold up to cutting metal. We went thru a good portion of the saws that we just sharpened over the week end. I haven’t had to charge for damaged saws all summer but both of these customers bought some saws.

Moved the mill a little over 60 miles this morning and milled up some good sized doug fir that came in a pick-up and a trailer load,  no metal, good feed speeds made short work of that batch.

Heading out this morning for another 50 mile drive to mill more Doug fir.


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: logboy on August 22, 2014, 10:54:07 AM
Quote
Tuesday we finished up the oak with just over 3,000bft this time he had two trailers ready, he had weighed the first load and the wood weighed almost 15,000 lb.

Apparently he found out the hard way that fresh cut oak is five pounds per bdft.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 26, 2014, 09:12:42 PM
½" lag will slow you down some  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on August 31, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
That lag bolt did not do as much damage to the saw a hitting a section of fencing did ::)

Todays milling was Pine siding 1x12's 12'-16' long. The total bft was 4,750, and a pile of sawdust.


 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on August 31, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
I went and looked at two jobs today.  One was a bonus.  I went to see one guy's header, it's tight quarters and on a slope.  The logs are ugly lookin, and in a mess too.  He said he cut them down a little over a year ago.  Mostly white pine, a few red pine, spruce and a popple or two here or there.  I told him to play pickup sticks, get all the logs in one place maybe level it out a bit more with the backhoe and give me a call send some pictures.  He said he'll get right on it today.  Come anytime I want with the mill he'll leave the backhoe there with the keys in it use it all I want.

His Neighbor came by, I went over to his place.  Lots of hemlock.  A couple look well past their expiration date.  He wants me to drop a bunch of the big girls.  I told him to hire a logger or an arborist, I don't like to drop trees where theres houses and powerlines around.  Anyways, he had a nice setup, I can use that same backhoe from down the road. 

Both of these guys are for 50/50 swap.  Which is fine for right now because I need to build a port for my mill and a wood shed, and a couple other projects.  I gave that guy my card he kept saying he knows this guy and that guy who need milling.  He said oh the 50/50 or 60/40 is great because most people round here can't pay cash but sure can swing the swap....welp...once I get going it'll be cash on the barrel head son.  This sawmill gets paid to run.  If I could pay my loan off in wood that'd be great.  I don't really have a great setup here for selling lumber, nor do I really want to. 

Anyways...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on August 31, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
Some pics of a job I did earlier this summer.   The customer recovered all of these from blowdowns from a tornado.  I sawed over 1400bf the first time I was there then came down to this pile and had it scaled at 1700bf w/the FF calculator, but when I was done we counted up over 2700bf, so about 4200bf total at this location.  It was the nicest pine I have seen to date.

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on August 31, 2014, 11:29:40 AM
Hope your client got his pine stickered good for drying. Looks temporary, at best, in the pics.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 31, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
That's a nice whack of nice pine, cknhwk. I've got a few nice sticks I'm going to slice this afternoon.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 31, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
Really nice pine.

Backwoods, that is a whack of sawdust.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: clww on August 31, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
That's a whack of pine for sure! 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 01, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
Good job, 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 08, 2014, 06:01:53 PM
Today I had an order and ran short on 8' and 10' pine logs.
So I went to my friendly neighborhood landing and got some   :D :D ;D
 

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I know too much, But it was a mile away. 680 BF :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 08, 2014, 07:04:23 PM
Now there's a "WHACK ON WHEELS".  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on September 08, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
I like the rope tie downs !
Tied the old school way :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 08, 2014, 08:40:58 PM
I like the rope tie downs !
Tied the old school way :)





That's me, old school :D :D
I see customers all the time, can't tie a knot :D :D



 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: clww on September 08, 2014, 09:28:20 PM
That's a load! 8) Good thing it was pine.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on September 09, 2014, 12:21:11 AM
Do I see a "wagoneer's hitch"? ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 09, 2014, 06:52:47 AM
A movers hitch. Can get the rope as tight as you want. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on September 09, 2014, 05:28:50 PM
It's the best way to tie lumber or ladders on a truck rack .
I learnt it from an old lumber delivery driver when I was a kid .
The young guys that work with me don't know what rope is.
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 09, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
It's the best way to tie lumber or ladders on a truck rack .
I learnt it from an old lumber delivery driver when I was a kid .
The young guys that work with me don't know what rope is.
Bruno


They all use ratchet straps now or bungees :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on September 09, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
Also note the type, size and length of rope used to tie the logs down. A section of rope like that with the  Knowledge to use it is a handy tool indeed ;)

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 09, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Thanks backwoods.
It's funny, I have ratcheted straps and never use them :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 10, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
Sometimes the ratchet straps are worse than changing the grease tube in a grease gun  :). 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: slider on September 10, 2014, 07:19:51 AM
Just keep them lubricated and feed the strap in the right direction and they are great.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 10, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Sometimes the ratchet straps are worse than changing the grease tube in a grease gun  :).

Don't bring that up again, ever.......

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on September 10, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
"Grease Guns -N- Grits".  Maybe Jim -N- Danny could play at the next Git Together.   fiddle-smiley smiley_guitarist smiley_trap_drummer smiley_singsongnote02
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on September 10, 2014, 09:57:35 AM
Just wondering, is this movers hitch the same as the Bolin hitch knot?  ropes are handy, and ratchet straps are too, applications and requirements often dictate which are used.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tmarch on September 10, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
Sometimes the ratchet straps are worse than changing the grease tube in a grease gun  :).
Heck I can remember filling a grease gun out of a bucket of grease, now that could get a bit messy!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on September 10, 2014, 10:19:22 AM
Just wondering, is this movers hitch the same as the Bolin hitch knot?  ropes are handy, and ratchet straps are too, applications and requirements often dictate which are used.
Don't think so, here is the "mover's knot", I think of it as a "canoe" knot because that's how I strap down the canoe and anything else I need to ratchet down tightly with a rope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H59bhXDUMcg
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on September 10, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
Oh yea, never had a name for these loops, but I use them all the time when not using the ratchets'
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 10, 2014, 05:43:10 PM
Ok, A 24' log w pine, The customer wants a 3.5"x22' counter top live edge.
 

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How much would you charge just for the top, The rest of the log will make 12' 1" boards. The top is 154 BF.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 10, 2014, 05:58:25 PM
You know what I would charge.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 10, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
$2/board foot.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on September 10, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
I charge up to $100 bucks a foot for stuff like that depending on the tree and how hard it is to get the log you need to make the piece you need.

How hard would it be for him to find it else where?

Specialty cuts are the cream of the business. DON'T sell your self short!

In this case I would think a $40 ish price per foot would be about right.

JMO 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on September 10, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
$2/board foot.

Plus a $500 custom milling fee, or $300 in SC.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 10, 2014, 08:58:47 PM
I would be about $4.00/BF. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on September 10, 2014, 10:00:56 PM
You know what I would charge.  :D
:D Well, I think you would cut it into 3-8' pieces and charge $300 a piece ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 11, 2014, 08:04:44 AM
$2/board foot.

x2
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 11, 2014, 09:04:27 AM
Last week this customer calls me up and says he has some maple he wants cut up from a tree in his yard that fell down during a storm.

I told him: "sure bring it right over" and "I'll lift the logs out or off your trailer with my backhoe".

He brought me this "whack" of wood:

 

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He carried most of the pieces off the trailer over to the sawmill, as they were very small.
He held one up that was about 4" in diameter and about 4' long and curved and asked me what did I think of it.
I told him, quite frankly, that it was firewood.
Most of it was for sure, but you know the old saying "the customer is always right".

He was willing to pay me to mill his firewood into lumber, I was will to take his money.

Just another "day in cutting wood".

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on September 11, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
Those pieces are important to him, and our job is to saw.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 11, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
If you pay I will play[ old saying]  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JustinW_NZ on September 11, 2014, 05:34:53 PM
If you pay I will play[ old saying]  ;D

yes, I use "If there paying - there Saying..."

Cheers
Justin
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ozarkgem on September 14, 2014, 06:44:49 PM
Ok, A 24' log w pine, The customer wants a 3.5"x22' counter top live edge.
 

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How much would you charge just for the top, The rest of the log will make 12' 1" boards. The top is 154 BF.
Must be a big house. My house is not 24 feet wide.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on September 18, 2014, 09:45:50 PM
100 miles away another yard tree came down ::)
When we arrived the customer had no idea what length he wants. So to take out the dog leg we went with a 16' couple 12' and a couple 10'. The butt log weighed in at 6,400 lb 38" small end. 

 

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The mill will be set up on the street. All of the tailings and lumber will be hand packed past the stump into the backyard where it will be stacked ::)

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 18, 2014, 10:08:52 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on September 18, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
I have a cut list for 2 barns……bring me 1 log please.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 18, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
That's a tree :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 20, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
Loggers moving to the other side of the land track , Called me to pick up some loose ones. :D [Pine and hemlock]
 

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Do anyone here use the log tongs to unload . Most times I can hook, pull and unhook without getting out of John. ;D
 

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They'er a big help here. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 20, 2014, 09:54:37 PM
I do that all the time.


Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on September 21, 2014, 12:04:05 AM
I got three sizes of tongs as well, just don't have John ;D
 

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The butt log was trimmed back to 8' as the fluting went in about 2' Rolling that 1,000 lb fluted chunck up into the back yard gave the 4 man crew of day labors a work out first thing in the morning as they came to relise they were packing the whole tree into the backyard :o :o :o :o ;D
The butt end was still 48" so I ripped it in half. 2"x 22" slabs was the target, the last log of the day was 12' and took all four of them to pack each one of the slabs to the backyard, they were so heavy with moisture they would flex 3"-4" as they were hefted up :o

When we finished we drug the sawdust up into the frontyard and dumped there as the stump grinder will be in monday and the excavator will be in tuesday to replace the sewer lines.

Both the crane opperator and the one writing the check told me we don't charge enough and tipped nicely ;D

When we got home I found one of the real disadvantages to sawing portable. The keys had been pulled out of the switch and placed on top of the control panel when the mill was put in travel mode and needless to say they were not there when we got home and I had already put the hitch lock on the mill. We made the 100 mile drive up to see if they could be located but they were not found :(

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on September 21, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Peter
The log tongs look like a slick set up for unloading !!!
Jim Bruno of NH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Delawhere Jack on September 21, 2014, 03:49:25 PM
Backwoods, what species was that tree?

About the keys, I keep my truck and mill keys on one ring for just that reason.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on September 21, 2014, 05:21:43 PM
Or a spare key for the mill in the truck and at home. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ozarkgem on September 21, 2014, 07:30:26 PM
I use tongs quite a bit. I have 4 different sizes . That looks like a pretty good load for your truck and trailer. Did you have a crowd watching you saw lumber in the street?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on September 21, 2014, 08:40:27 PM
It as Sequoia, about 40-50 years ago a good many of the nurseries in the area carried them. Another large one across the street. Now they are getting so big they are causing damage and have to come down.   

Had a few duplicates, but several will require changing lock sets, Had just got a second key for the car last week and the original was one of the missing, that was close. Got to know the key maker at the local hardware store today ;D

The area had light auto traffic but a lot of dog walkers, foot and bycyle traffic. We took a break when the school on the corner let out. Did hand out a few cards and a few lounge chairs, cigars and coolers came out. At the end of the day it was all thumbs up ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 01, 2014, 05:02:01 AM
So, yesterday, we hauled my mill some 85 miles south to a salvage lumber yard. I was to bring my 6' bed extension along so we could mill up some 23' long beams into smaller pieces.
I hired a friend with a nice flat bed pick up truck to haul the bed extension behind me as I hauled my milled down there.

Wasn't the best weather for the ride or set up. But the mill is there.

 

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above are some of the first timbers that I have to cut in half.

They were suppose to be 23' long. Not to bad to do on a 22' mill, will only have to slide them 1' or so I thought:

 

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A bit longer than 23'. The tape reads 28' 7".......

The yard area where I was going to set up was a little rough. I asked the bobcat driver if he could flatten it out some.
He said sure:

 

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back dragging with the timber. I sure hope they don't expect me to saw that one......

Got the mill in the yard but didn't get the bed extension hooked up yet:

 

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Some of the ends of the timbers I have to cut today:

 

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I'm leaving now as it is a two hour drive and I have to be there by 7am to meet up with the bobcat driver.
Wish me luck for sure.

Jim Rogers

More photos later on.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 01, 2014, 05:12:59 AM
Good luck to ya Jim.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 01, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
Good luck to you again.  As to the timber in the dirt, I have a customer where that seems to be standard log preparation.  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2014, 07:45:54 PM
The beam dose work well.  :D :D :D :D


Cut some butternut today.
 

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And a load came in.
 

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Nice hemlock, This is what good stuff looks like all white on the ends
3800 BF in all.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 02, 2014, 07:50:14 PM
Yes,nice looking hemlock.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2014, 07:56:38 PM
They came from a place that is sandy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on October 03, 2014, 12:05:24 AM
I sure like those short self loaders!!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: New Brunswick on October 03, 2014, 05:22:22 AM
They are great looking logs, do you find less shake in that size of tree vs the older. bigger ones?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 03, 2014, 06:25:00 AM
They are great looking logs, do you find less shake in that size of tree vs the older. bigger ones?




No, it's all about the ground, Sand and clay seem to make nice wood.
W pine no red rot, No spider crack on the end of red Oak, No shake in the Hemlock. Not 100%, but you can see the wood is nice. When the loggers are on ground like that I try to get what I can.
Right now the big mills are screaming for logs. We have one mill goes through 30 +loads a day. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 04, 2014, 09:51:09 PM
OK so here's the update on how the job went.

First timber 9x15x23' had to cut two 3" piece off of each side.
First cut first side, first timber.

 

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I hate when that happens.

First piece after replacing broken blade:

 

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I had to make (6) pieces 3x15x23' the rest were 18' long a little easier.

Some were 4" thick and the bobcat driver was very good sitting them on and lifting them off.

Then they brought me some 3x floor joists and told me to just cut them in half. The wide way.

 

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most were less than 8' long.

Some weren't that great inside:

 

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But they don't really care about that.

They put that side, the inside, down and make that the bottom side of the table top. The glue these wide pieces together and make antique lumber table tops. and that means the rough out side of the old beam is the top of the table. they seem to sell a lot of these.

While I was there, I saw him making a counter top for a sandwich shop somewhere near by.

Mud and rain on Wednesday and Thursday.
Friday was a sunny day but they said later Thursday that I was done.
I spent all day Friday going down there, removing the bed extension and waiting for the truck to show up to haul it back. then driving it back 85 miles one way.

I won't be doing this job again for this price. Next time more money for sure.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 06, 2014, 06:35:59 PM
Another load pine and hemlock
 

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I have been cutting 2x stuff so I need the hemlock.
 

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Look what I found, :D A short one, I like 6" trim on the logs.
 

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Would you pay for a 8' log with 1½" trim? :D :D :D And would pay for this thing? :D
 

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 I know Poston would make something out of it. :D
The hemlock is big some bigger.
 

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Then a customer came in and had some elm, Wants to make a truck bed with it .
Will Elm work out in the weather? How long will it last? And the logs are not the best. :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on October 06, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
Treated, bout like pine, left with a topical coat, not too long,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on October 06, 2014, 07:30:54 PM
Quote
Then a customer came in and had some elm, Wants to make a truck bed with it .
Will Elm work out in the weather? How long will it last? And the logs are not the best.

If that is what the customer wants to make his truck bed from, then why not as long as you get paid ??
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 06, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
Many many years ago, my cousin who was in the excavation business at the time, re-decked his backhoe trailer with elm and it didn't last long at all. Not even as long as oak.

He thought it would be rough and tough as it is hard to split to burn but it didn't last very long for him.

That's about my only experience with it that I can tell you.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on October 06, 2014, 08:14:04 PM
The old timers here rave about elm for decking. I think that was due to strength more than longevity maybe? I've never got to test it out myself.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 06, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
I thought you was off Fair Hoppin', now you are cutting elm  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 06, 2014, 08:46:45 PM
I thought you was off Fair Hoppin', now you are cutting elm  :D.


I am, going Friday and Sunday :D :D :D :D :D :D
The elm is for next week If I get time :D







If that is what the customer wants to make his truck bed from, then why not as long as you get paid ??


When someone asks me about wood I like to know what I'm talking about. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on October 06, 2014, 11:39:46 PM
Peter, Do you buck your logs? Or saw them, in whatever length they come?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 07, 2014, 05:54:43 AM
Peter, Do you buck your logs? Or saw them, in whatever length they come?




I tell the logger what I want. All cut to length 8'6"---10'6"---12'6"---16'6" and up.  No 14'  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rooster 58 on October 07, 2014, 06:53:27 AM
Here in Pa. they cut hemlock in 25' lengths
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: highleadtimber16 on October 07, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Peter, Do you buck your logs? Or saw them, in whatever length they come?




I tell the logger what I want. All cut to length 8'6"---10'6"---12'6"---16'6" and up.  No 14'  :D :D :D :D



That's nice. Gives you more milling time and less bucking.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 09, 2014, 06:36:09 PM
I was back to sawing today.
 

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Four 8' Sassafras logs to be sawn into 1X5's & 1X10's for flooring, plus one 2" slab for a counter top.
 

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Thankfully I quoted "hourly rate" and came out OK.  I did not scale the lumber but it looked like about 500 bf.  It took 4 hours which was not too sporty production.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 09, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Wow, how do you find sassafras trees like that  ???.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 09, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
And since he did not quite have enough, he said the log that he left at home was even larger.   :)

That was some beautiful lumber.  He is taking it to the kiln guy for drying, planing, and T&G.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 09, 2014, 09:36:26 PM
Some nice logs
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YellowHammer on October 09, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Those are some nice sassafras, logs like that are few and far between around here.   
YH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: New Brunswick on October 10, 2014, 04:19:38 AM
 I never heard that name before Sassafras, I had to google it, they are quite the tree in regards to their job in nature and what they can be used for. Oil from the bark is used to flavor rootbeer, tea and also perfume soap....learn something new every day! They are really nice looking logs MM.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on October 10, 2014, 07:37:57 AM
The big ones are extinct around here. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 10, 2014, 08:46:07 AM
We had one old Sassafras that was well over 3' at an old share cropper house site when I was growing up.  It is long since gone and I doubt that I have a Sassafras over 12" on the place.

This customer says that there are many large ones where he lives which is in the Bogue Chitto River Basin.  I hope that he brings the "larger" log for me to saw.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on October 10, 2014, 09:01:29 AM
No doubt them are some very nice sassafras  logs,  I've only sawed a few, but really like it, the smell and the way is saws.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 10, 2014, 09:12:19 AM
The customer carried home a bag of sawdust. :)  Since this was one of the very few times that the logs were brought to me, I guess that the slabs will be firewood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 30, 2014, 10:39:50 PM
The last job on the road :D :D :D :D I hope
 

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The bark was coming off and was everywhere. You know how much fun it is when it gets under every cant.
And if you peel it off, The logs are like ice and slide all over, I walked on some bark slipped and fell, Like walking on ice.
No John Deere :(
Every log had limbs 6" long that had to be cut off so they would role ::)


But it is over, I'm home with work coming in.
 

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First of 3 maybe 4 loads. Cutting out a timber frame sugar house  8) 8) 8)
 

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All the bark is on :D 8) No slippery logs no bugs, All the limbs are flush . And John is here Customers coming Fryday Sat and Sunday to pick up lumber. 8) 8)
 

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Maybe I can get to my cherry logs too. 8) 8) 8)

 

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A long day cutting wood smiley_sweat_drop


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 30, 2014, 11:00:25 PM
It's nice to see you settled back in Peter and I know that you are happy. :) But of course what you are leaving is my normal.   ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 30, 2014, 11:13:14 PM
It's nice to see you settled back in Peter and I know that you are happy. :) But of course what you are leaving is my normal.   ::)




I did it for a lot of years, But I think you like the travelling more than I do.  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on October 31, 2014, 08:21:33 AM
Home is a good place to be.
I noticed those logs looked old. The limbs made it that much harder.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 31, 2014, 08:46:35 AM
I often tell a customer that if he had taken one step closer to the log, he would have gotten the limb sawed off.  I say it in a joking manner, but I am serious.  That prompts them to grab their saw and start trimming.  Some folks just do not know.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on October 31, 2014, 09:03:51 AM
Excessive nubs makes me rub my head, and mumble under my breath ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on October 31, 2014, 09:18:04 AM
 

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Got Nubs?   ???   ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: backwoods sawyer on October 31, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
MM at least the customer had taken one step closer to the nubs as they are no longer limbs :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 02, 2014, 08:04:28 AM
 

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More Cherry 8)
 

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Another load.
The boys are busy.
 

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Logs all over :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 03, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Would you guys call this cherry burls or just a mess? :D :D :D
 

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I'm going to make a $300 bench out of this :D :D :D
 

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With sweep, The (I) on the end is to remind me of Iron in it :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 03, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
Oh, you would remember when you heard that sound.   :o   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mikeb1079 on November 03, 2014, 11:46:41 PM
peter you sure get some nice w pine   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: woodyone.john on November 04, 2014, 03:59:27 AM
I thought the [ I ] was so you remember that it needed ironing to keep it flat :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 10, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
Another load,
 

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 I don't like scaling W Pine. What a mess, I wonder if I clean the stick the numbers will come off  :D :D :D :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on November 10, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
What a sticky mess you have there!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 10, 2014, 07:30:28 PM
I betcha in a month it won't do that.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 10, 2014, 09:05:22 PM
I betcha in a month it won't do that.   ;D


 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D No, and you won't see them in the white stuff :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on November 11, 2014, 05:40:19 PM
Get your long Jon's out for milling this weekend .
Looks like we will need them in NH
Jim/Bruno of NH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on November 12, 2014, 11:16:05 AM
Would you guys call this cherry burls or just a mess? :D :D :D
 

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I'm going to make a $300 bench out of this :D :D :D
 

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With sweep, The (I) on the end is to remind me of Iron in it :D

Looks more like a canker than a burl.

That sweepy ferrocherrry might make a couple of nice live edge fireplace mantles. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 17, 2014, 09:13:38 PM
I put new blades in the edger today. What a job, and the lineup after. Sometimes I wish the blades were two pieces :D
I had to adjust the shaft some.
 

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And move it back.See the nuts and blots.
 

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I use a string to line up the fence.
 

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And John got some claws. :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 17, 2014, 10:16:19 PM
How much were the new blades? I think I need to do mine. Or maybe I just need to peel a layer or two of crud off my feed rollers. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 18, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
John will be walking in style.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2014, 12:58:53 PM
How much were the new blades? I think I need to do mine. Or maybe I just need to peel a layer or two of crud off my feed rollers. :D




 I bought them last spring. 125.00 each. Was that you that had trouble with tracking using the fence?


John will be walking in style.



Yes, but now I have to be careful not to break the pallets.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on December 18, 2014, 01:37:40 PM
About edger blades-
I sent my WM edger blades to these folks to get re-tipped and the did a superb job.
Mathieu Saw and Tool
Lewiston,Maine
207-783-9087
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 18, 2014, 03:33:37 PM
If I'm just running a board through using both blades, it seems to do just fine. If I have a straight edge against the fence, it walks away, leaving me with a narrow end. Also, one of the blades seems to leave a fuzzy cut once in a while.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on December 18, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
I like the new hardware on the front of John.

Nice, don't fall down in between the lugs, so should give great traction.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2014, 06:49:36 PM
If I'm just running a board through using both blades, it seems to do just fine. If I have a straight edge against the fence, it walks away, leaving me with a narrow end. Also, one of the blades seems to leave a fuzzy cut once in a while.




You can move the feed roles some, that will help with tracking. I use a square on them. Square to the body of the edger.  The fuzz is a dull blade, If you look you will see a flat spot on the tooth tip.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
About edger blades-
I sent my WM edger blades to these folks to get re-tipped and the did a superb job.
Mathieu Saw and Tool
Lewiston,Maine
207-783-9087

 smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on December 18, 2014, 07:16:12 PM
According to WM if the edger isn't level in both directions you won't have good results.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 18, 2014, 07:35:21 PM
According to WM if the edger isn't level in both directions you won't have good results.



True.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: loggah on December 19, 2014, 07:01:12 PM
I you put a straight edge  like a piece of 1/8" angle iron on the out feed side in alignment with your stationary blade it will hold the wood straight as it feeds thru the edger.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 19, 2014, 07:18:03 PM
I you put a straight edge  like a piece of 1/8" angle iron on the out feed side in alignment with your stationary blade it will hold the wood straight as it feeds thru the edger.


The wood goes away from the fence, so if you did that the board will be ¼ to ½" away from the out feed fence.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 20, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
Well, I had time to start finally.
 

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I put a pole at each end, then fill the rest in. :D :D

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4 more posts for the other wall, then I can start the roof.  8) 8) 8)
I'm sick Of snow on my wood and my pallets frozen to the ground.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 20, 2014, 08:32:41 PM
I hear there is ocean front property in Arizona :D  sunny and 75°'s year round ;D  the start looks real good, and I'm with you on the snow,  not a big fan either, Pretty stuff, but a pain to work in,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 20, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
That will be really nice when it's done, Peter. Having everything under cover will pay for the effort in short order.

I'm getting pretty aggravated by the snow, too. I've got a bunch of stuff to edge, and processing my slabs can be a pain when they are all stuck together. I've got my eye on a few W24x94 beams 39' long. Three of those in a row ought to be enough. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 20, 2014, 09:26:57 PM
Snow is no fun,but the rain at 34° is worse. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 20, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
That will be really nice when it's done, Peter. Having everything under cover will pay for the effort in short order.

I'm getting pretty aggravated by the snow, too. I've got a bunch of stuff to edge, and processing my slabs can be a pain when they are all stuck together. I've got my eye on a few W24x94 beams 39' long. Three of those in a row ought to be enough. 8)


3 39' yeah, I think so. Can you get a good deal on them?
 :christmas:




Snow is no fun,but the rain at 34° is worse. 


How much snow do you have up there?
 :christmas:


I hear there is ocean front property in Arizona :D  sunny and 75°'s year round ;D  the start looks real good, and I'm with you on the snow,  not a big fan either, Pretty stuff, but a pain to work in,


It is a pain, But you have a nice Mill building for your mill so you can cut in bad weather.  Do you have some? I had 12" but with all the rain, I think 2" now.
 :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
Yeah, I think I can get a good deal, just tell the guy that owns them to bring me his Lull, so I can unload them, and to go back and get them with his trailer truck. :D I don't know what it would cost in the end, but I'm sure it will be manageable. The next trick will be what I'm going to use for the three posts. There are other shorter pieces of steel there, might see if he has something for that. I'm going to have an ~80' opening, and the rest for the edger bay. Plan is to have another 24' extension some day.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on December 21, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
Peter,maybe 3-4 inches,with a crust on it from all the rain. I should be in the woods cutting some trees,but I'm playing with some firewood up by the house.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 21, 2014, 07:56:21 AM
Hang in there Peter, and keep your head up to keep your nose above the snow  :). 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 21, 2014, 08:29:41 AM
Hang in there Peter, and keep your head up to keep your nose above the snow  :). 




 :D :D :D smiley_thumbsup :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: loggah on December 21, 2014, 05:16:48 PM
were lucky so far not much snow, up twin mtn and Gorham way couple feet of snow.  I went north to labonville to get some boots today. Peter you will be some happy when that shed is built ! ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on December 21, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
Peter, you need to learn to sit your lumber pallets on "freeze blocks" so that the blocks freeze to the ground and not the pallet.

I've been doing that for 20 years.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 22, 2014, 07:05:34 AM
Peter, you need to learn to sit your lumber pallets on "freeze blocks" so that the blocks freeze to the ground and not the pallet.

I've been doing that for 20 years.

Jim Rogers



I use to put down slabs flat side up and that would work well. Then in the spring pickup the mess of slabs that are all over the place.
The front poles are going in today. With 80' of roof I hope no more freeze in. :D :D
 Then in the spring the wide shed and saw dust shed will go up before I get busy.
 :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 22, 2014, 07:25:39 AM
Where are you going to put the kiln?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 22, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
Where are you going to put the kiln?



Over by my workshop, then when the wood is done In a room at the end of the mill building. I'm going to stand the wood up. What do you think about standing the lumber up on end to store it?
 :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on December 22, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
Peter
Are you putting up trusses or rafters on your big shed ?
That will be a great building .
Jim/Bruno of NH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 22, 2014, 08:24:14 PM
Storing vertical is a great way to go.  Easier for the customers to sort through the boards, kinda like pages in a book.  I have a good bit stored that way.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 22, 2014, 08:53:06 PM
Peter
Are you putting up trusses or rafters on your big shed ?
That will be a great building .
Jim/Bruno of NH



Rafters, I'm cutting them tomorrow  :D :D




Storing vertical is a great way to go.  Easier for the customers to sort through the boards, kinda like pages in a book.  I have a good bit stored that way.



I thought it would easier that way. The customers always want the board on the bottom ::)

Do you do that YH?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: loggah on December 23, 2014, 07:29:39 AM
Peter, I stored a bunch of white oak i had sawn out standing up one time! you could have made sled runners out of it,ruined it all. I think you would have to keep turning it to keep it from warping.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 23, 2014, 07:33:04 AM
I only store it vertically after it is fully dry. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: loggah on December 23, 2014, 07:54:48 AM
Well this oar was dry and sawn into 1 1/2" x2 1/2"  and it still warped. Probably not a big deal with softwood,boards or framing lumber.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 23, 2014, 07:57:40 AM
I remember in the 40's-50's all SYP lumber was stacked vertical.  The sawmills had huge rows of lumber and the "hands" would flip it end over every so often.  I remember my Granddad flipping the lumber that was used for our home that was completed in ~1949. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 23, 2014, 08:59:39 AM
Big marble slabs will bend stored vertically. People don't think marble bends, but it does. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YellowHammer on December 23, 2014, 08:00:36 PM
I stack flat for several reasons, not saying its the best for everyone, but it works for me.
I like being able to very quickly and conveniently look at the ends of the boards in the racks and inspect for cupping or twisting without having to handle them.  All I have to do is glance at the rack and see if a board shows undesired movement, so I can cull or downgrade it before a customer gets to it.

My "showroom" is essentially a fixed up barn, and is not climate controlled.  So keeping the boards dead stacked really slows their reabsorption of moisture until they get sold.

Customer safety - I like keeping the boards low down and horizontal as much as possible, with little chance of tipping or falling on customers.  It amazing how much like the Three Stooges some customers get by leaning and swinging boards without looking where anybody else is.  I once had a customer almost get knocked in the head by some lumber that was leaning against a wall, and he looked at me and said "I almost got the whole rack for free." :(
YH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 23, 2014, 09:02:12 PM
Thank's for the info YH you have some very good points. :christmas:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bigD on December 24, 2014, 07:57:19 AM
I like that log roller. Great Idea.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 27, 2014, 08:44:00 PM
I spent the afternoon sawing up some of the leftover logs from last springs logging adventure. I got three 8"x8" beams I need for a shed I'm working on and a bunch of side lumber for another project. It was a great day today. Sunny and warm. I think it must have been almost 50 today. The mud had receded to a reasonable level as well, the only remnant of the pre-Christmas glaciers. :D

I took the time to fix something that's been broken for about five years now. On the newer LT40 mills there is a little deflector on the drive side blade cover. It's riveted on with seven rivets. I somehow busted mine off, but managed to save it from the sawdust heap. I had some 1/8" stainless rivets at the house, so I brought some up to the mill and popped the deflector back on. The lowest hole had been compromised, so I drilled another hole below it. I think the original rivets were aluminum, and just sheared off. Although during an altercation with a 47' log, I'm not sure that matters. :D Should be good to go now:

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 27, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
I finally riveted and brazed mine on.  Vibration is the killer.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 28, 2014, 08:21:43 AM
Good job,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 01, 2015, 10:15:43 AM
Well had 3 days to work on the shed.
 

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Now I can go the other way 80'  :D then I'll do the sides
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on January 01, 2015, 11:00:34 AM
Your snow keeps hanging around.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bigD on January 03, 2015, 08:48:17 AM
good job.  Looking good
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 21, 2015, 08:01:09 AM
It's all coming along good , If the cold will give up a little, It would be nice. :D
 

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Yesterday a customer came to have me cut some W Oak. I looked and told him it looks like he started cutting already. Said he did, but the other mill in the next town over could not.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Easy job, :D :D :D
 

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I think the other guy was cheaper. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on February 21, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
Cheaper is not always better.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on February 21, 2015, 08:19:54 PM
He can only be cheaper if he gets the job done.  Maybe his talk is cheaper.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 22, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
After asking around I found out the other mill Is a young guy with an older LT40HD, [First mill] and is having trouble with it .
I'm going to call and see if I can help him get up and running. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Holmes on February 22, 2015, 08:37:08 AM
That is a very nice gesture.  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on February 22, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
That White Oak timber looks cold.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: slider on February 22, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
Good for you Peter.That gesture shows what you are made of.al
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 22, 2015, 09:34:52 AM

I'm going to call and see if I can help him get up and running. :D

Are you running a service loop now?  :) :) :) Come on down South and look at mine....We'll grill some Texas steaks.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 22, 2015, 06:59:30 PM

I'm going to call and see if I can help him get up and running. :D

Are you running a service loop now?  :) :) :) Come on down South and look at mine....We'll grill some Texas steaks.  ;D



 :D :D No loop today,  Moving a lot of snow :o  Thanks for the invite, If I ever get over that way I'll call and We can have some Texas steaks  digin1
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on February 22, 2015, 07:35:19 PM
Good for you Peter.That gesture shows what you are made of.al
X2! smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on February 22, 2015, 08:05:28 PM
Peter,

Stay away from the GOAT cheese. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Holmes on February 22, 2015, 08:09:18 PM






                  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 13, 2015, 07:57:38 PM
Well, The guy that has a WM that needs help wants no help.  :D :D O well, I tried.



This is the next to last load before mud season. I was going to get 2 other loads, but the other logger brought them to the big mill. I think he's afraid he will get shut off or something like that.
 But, he did not have to lie to me about it, That's ok When he wants something he will be back.  :snowball:

 

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Just have to make past mud season. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 13, 2015, 08:05:10 PM
I wish I could get loads like that delivered.  :-\

Why would the big mill shut him off over two loads? Especially if they weren't expecting them. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 13, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
Not looking forward to mud season...where I'm set up it's so poorly drained mud season lasts twice as long.  Need to find somewhere better to set up.  I've been spreading sawdust everywhere I have to get equipment hoping that it might buy me some time. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 13, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
I wish I could get loads like that delivered.  :-\

Why would the big mill shut him off over two loads? Especially if they weren't expecting them. :)


 You have to see it his way. He sells a lot of wood. More than I need sometimes.
Some guys get shut off this time of the year. The mills around here have been buying like crazy. And do get full of logs. So they tell some a load a week, Or one every two weeks.
The guy has to pay the bills .
Sometimes, It's more work getting the logs here than cutting them.  :D :D
If he would have said no I can't. OK, then I'll go to another logger . But don't say I will and don't.




So why can't you buy logs? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 13, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
It seems that very little pine gets cut around here. I talked to a guy last year and he shot me a really high number and I couldn't make it work.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
It seems that very little pine gets cut around here. I talked to a guy last year and he shot me a really high number and I couldn't make it work.



Around here W Pine goes for 180 to 330 a 1000.

Got my other load today.
 

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Some good some BAAAAAd. :D
 

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One is junk,
I think I will make it past Mud season,
 

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Maybe.  :D :D



I have a customer I'm cutting some hemlock for, And he want's the slabs. I have the mill set up so I can band them up.
 

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This setup works well for me. My slabs go in the one ton, Instead of the rack, then to the Morbark.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on March 14, 2015, 01:27:25 PM
Yep, if it works don't fix it!  still looks cold up your way! them logs are froze, keeping dimensions any issue at all?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 14, 2015, 01:28:02 PM
It's nice to see your inventory build up.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
Yep, if it works don't fix it!  still looks cold up your way! them logs are froze, keeping dimensions any issue at all?



Frozen logs are no fun, But the WM with a razor sharp blade will do a nice job. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on March 14, 2015, 08:05:07 PM
 til they thaw,? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 14, 2015, 08:10:53 PM
 

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Some good some BAAAAAd. :D

What's wrong with that stick? or is it a good un, looks good from my house
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2015, 08:21:20 PM
 

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Some good some BAAAAAd. :D

What's wrong with that stick? or is it a good un, looks good from my house


It is a good one :D :D






til they thaw,? 



And then what? :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 14, 2015, 08:33:32 PM
I thought so!  Do you ever get logs that have 1/3 of it gone due to notch?  I like humboldts better take the notch out of the stump not out of the log!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 14, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
When I cut logs,there is no way that rotten one would make it in the log pile.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2015, 10:18:09 PM
When I cut logs,there is no way that rotten one would make it in the log pile.



I don't know why it's in my yard  :D And the two 7' logs I got too. :D :D :D
I stop asking why  :D :D :D All an All 8700 bf.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 14, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
 

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At least there might have been some usable wood in there!  Besides that one looking you right in the face there were some nice sticks in here...until I found out they were bucked 7'10"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on March 15, 2015, 06:14:40 AM
Short......... It really ticks me off when I get into a customers log pile, really making some progress and all of the sudden I'll roll a log down and right behind it there'll be 5 or 6 logs that are bucked 6 feet!

I talk with the customer "AGAIN" and tell him "if you want 6 foot lumber, cut the logs to 12½-13 feet and once they are sawn you can cut the boards in half".

I just hate cutting short logs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 15, 2015, 07:24:31 AM
Mills that take cut to length logs have always had a problem with logs that were not bucked correctly.  Seems simple, but it must not be. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 07:39:31 AM
I all so had one 10'2"  No trim so I paid him for a 8'.
Some loggers can cut a tree and get nice straight logs out of it with 6" of trim . And some can't see where to cut it so you get bananas and no trim. :D :D
But to be fair, When you cut 1000s of logs. Some just don't come out right. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 15, 2015, 09:07:55 AM
I tried getting 16 footers but he didn't have any only other thing he had were 14'ers and I wasn't gonna pay for an extra 6 foot of log. 
Some loggers I've bought from give 8-10" of trim.  I like that alot.

It is simple! Measure, Cut! 

On these ones that I got, one side is 8' and they cut it sideways to so that it's down to 7'10"
Usually both sides are close to parallel, but if you get one where they cut it sideways oppositely then you get 8' on one plane and 7'8" or so on the other!

The logger told me that he'd buy the lumber I sawed out of it, then come back and give me some different 8' logs that are bucked 8'6"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 10:53:57 AM
I don't sell 14' lumber, Not much call for it. What's real handy I will call for a load and the logger want's to know what lengths I need. Or he will be going to a small lot like this one And I buy all of it.
The thing that some loggers like, I pay the same for a 16' or 8' if the grade is there.
Some mills don't want 10' or 8' logs, If they do, they don't pay much for them.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 15, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I would have a specification that the logs be well manufactured. Meaning, cut to standard lengths with trim, cut the knots flush, cut the stump shot off etc. It's not the mills responsibility to deal with the junk that comes off of a logging job.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on March 15, 2015, 11:41:18 AM
I usually ask my customers to cut the logs 6" longer than the desired log length!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
I would have a specification that the logs be well manufactured. Meaning, cut to standard lengths with trim, cut the knots flush, cut the stump shot off etc. It's not the mills responsibility to deal with the junk that comes off of a logging job.




In a perfect world, I'd say yes, But you can't help sometimes what the [Trucker] puts on .
It's part of the Game. :D :D :D I don't pay for junk logs. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 15, 2015, 01:42:35 PM
No, but who wants to deal with the junk even if you don't pay for it?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on March 15, 2015, 03:22:15 PM
Imagine it is the same (or similar) dilemma that the trucker loading your logs goes through... what to do with the 'junk' still laying on the ground. Not hard to figure out what to do with the good logs, but it is for the poor quality.
One can see the mind set that gets them on the truck going with the good ones. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 15, 2015, 03:24:36 PM
If you keep all the junk to the side I guess you could send it for pulp at least, it'd be better if the logger just set em off to the side and sent em for pulp though.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 15, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
In my opinion, it's the logger's responsibility to deal with them if they are also marketing the logs. Big mills and brokers won't tolerate this game. They all have a "well manufactured" clause. If there is no pulp market, then the logger and the homeowner have to decide what to do with them.

As a small mill, Peter may have to bite his tongue on this issue. I would do as he is doing regarding culling and scaling back, but show the deductions on a scale ticket, and ask that the culls be back hauled on the next load. I think with a little education, the loggers will start doing a better job of manufacturing. If they are selling to a big mill, they should already know how.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
In my opinion, it's the logger's responsibility to deal with them if they are also marketing the logs. Big mills and brokers won't tolerate this game. They all have a "well manufactured" clause. If there is no pulp market, then the logger and the homeowner have to decide what to do with them.

As a small mill, Peter may have to bite his tongue on this issue. I would do as he is doing regarding culling and scaling back, but show the deductions on a scale ticket, and ask that the culls be back hauled on the next load. I think with a little education, the loggers will start doing a better job of manufacturing. If they are selling to a big mill, they should already know how.



It's not as bad as you think. I got one junk log all winter. And 2 short log 7'11" will come in handy when I need some blocking.  :D :D
Anyway, I can put all that in the Morbark and sell the chips. With a small job 10,000 BF. The logger gave the pulp to the trucker. I think one load and he will bring it to the pulp mill.
I do keep a clean yard. And the only thing I bite is the wife. :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 15, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
I game from the Old School. I had a teacher that was born in 1923,my Father!!  Logs had to have the trim,6 inches and had to have 8,0,2,4,6 marked on the small end. Logs did not have the knot sticking pass the bark. Even cut into the bark was better. Log was cut for the best straightness,I guess that's a word. No pushing the grade for rot either. Buy logs from us,you was buying good logs. My Dad made sure of it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 15, 2015, 05:04:51 PM
I like that^  one guy i worked for in the woods had us do same thing.  He would rather have us spend a little more time trimming logs
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 15, 2015, 05:26:49 PM
Of course I do not buy logs, but I do poke fun at the customer's logs.

Occasionally I will jab the customer with; "if you had taken one step closer to the log, you would have gotten the limb sawed off".  They laugh and grab the saw.

I will also tell them to hook that log back to their tractor and drag it around the barn again; "I think they left some dirt back there somewhere".

It's all in a days work.  Live and laugh.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
What I don't like is the butt flare. I ask the loggers. Your right there cutting the tree down, Can you trim the end up some.  The looks I get. :D :D
Do you other sawyer trim the log before it goes on the mill?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 15, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
I mentioned that a couple of weeks ago in a thread about jump butting.  If I need to shorten a butt log, it will almost always be from the butt end. LINK (http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,81580.msg1242836.html#msg1242836)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
I meant the flair is so bad the log won't roll.
Cut the sides off the end of the butt log. customsawyer has a vid where he trims the log on the mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 15, 2015, 07:07:18 PM
This log is trimmed down to 36". I don't know what it was before. I think I had one that was 46" before trimming. On smaller stuff, I don't trim if it will fit between the guides with no problem.



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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
Thanks for the pic Dave. That's what I meant.
I just think the log fits better on the truck and mill and I don't have to pick up all the little pieces. They don't chip well.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 15, 2015, 07:28:20 PM
You would like buying logs from bill m. I should get a pic of the ash firewood logs he is cutting. They are all trimmed up perfectly. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on March 15, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Maybe Billm learned from my teacher too. And we cut ALL of the stumps mighty low. And than some. I can remember kinda digging the dirt away from most of the trees we cut. But my Father came from the day of rolling logs with a peavey too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 19, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
Got the customers logs cut, And he wants the slabs too . So I banded them up for him.
 

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Then one guy came. Will you cut my one 10' spruce log? Yep,  :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
I had him back up to John. Tide the log to John and he drove away.  :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 19, 2015, 08:32:48 PM
That's how ya do it!!

I needed a popple log awhile back went over seen a local gyppo logger and he loaded me up two popple logs with the skidder...took a little bit but we got her done!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 19, 2015, 08:41:12 PM
Good way to bend a tailgate too.  :-\  No matter 'cause his rear end is a different color anyway.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 19, 2015, 08:50:17 PM
Good way to bend a tailgate too.  :-\  No matter 'cause his rear end is a different color anyway.   ;D


Yeah, the truck was a wreck. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 19, 2015, 09:03:25 PM
That's funny.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tmarch on March 19, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
GITTNERDONE!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 19, 2015, 09:27:21 PM
And the white flag on white log. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 19, 2015, 09:28:27 PM
Maybe he was signaling a surrender? :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 19, 2015, 10:07:50 PM
Looks like an old pair of underwear  :D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 19, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
I was too busy looking at the tailgate to see the drawers.   :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on March 19, 2015, 10:17:11 PM
Maybe his new tailgate will be red  :D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 21, 2015, 05:51:34 PM
More happy customers today. With the snow going the ph is a ringing.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 21, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
Good to hear.  Did you catch what make trailer that is?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 21, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Good to hear.  Did you catch what make trailer that is?



No,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on March 21, 2015, 10:21:09 PM
1770 bf of WRC today. Customer was happy and so was my wallet!  Except he didn't buy my mill like he was supposed to.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ScottAR on March 22, 2015, 01:30:55 AM
Looks like featherlight trailer from here but I've been wrong before.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 22, 2015, 06:46:20 AM
1770 bf of WRC today. Customer was happy and so was my wallet!  Except he didn't buy my mill like he was supposed to.


Are you looking to buy a new mill?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on March 22, 2015, 04:15:36 PM
I want to get an older mill and some auxillary equipment with the capital from my relatively new lt35.  Although the unknown is scary with used equipment and the 35 has been so trustworthy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 10, 2015, 06:22:00 PM
Had a chance to see a 40 supper work today, A new one in my yard,
Ross called and wanted to come here and show a young man how to use it.  smiley_beertoast
We are a big fan of Wood Mizer, YES. :D :D :D :D
So I got a 8' log with sweep. :D :D I told Ross I was going to get one 20' and crooked as a dog's tail.  :D :D Was raining, but stoped for the men to play with the mill. ;D
What a nice mill for a young man.
I do what I can for Ross and Wood Mizer.
 

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Ross shows him around the mill.
 

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That boys and girls is a 36 Horse Yanmar.
 

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And It has the new support bearing too.
 

 
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 Ross tailing. :D :D 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ncsawyer on April 10, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
My new mill has the same engine with the new support bearing.   So far I love the new Yanmar, but I've already had the support bearing and drive belt off to replace the alternator belt at 0.2 hours.  Sure seemed like a lot of work just for an alternator belt.  Looks like Wood-Mizer would have designed the alternator belt to run outside of the drive belt.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 10, 2015, 08:06:37 PM
That's one sweet looking mill !
And one nice set up mill yard !
Big Jim/Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:00:51 PM
Big thanks to Peter for having me  smiley_beertoast  and taking the pictures because I wasn't really thinking about taking pictures!   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 10, 2015, 09:09:11 PM
That must have been some trip. I know there is no straight route across VT and NH. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:11:55 PM
It was a nice drive, except for on the way there, stuck behind slow drivers going 5-10 mph under the speed limit was vexing, especially when there was a sawmill waiting for me.  And my brake controller in pickup must be bad cause had no trailer brakes the whole ride back! 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 10, 2015, 09:13:20 PM
I didn't know it was coming from Maine WM.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 10, 2015, 09:14:46 PM
Makes me want to get some buffing compound and try and get some of my orange to shine through. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 10, 2015, 09:16:36 PM
Glad you made it home. 8) 8)
Now you want to come back and stick the lumber you cut. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:19:42 PM
Darn!  Yea I'm on my way back, when you wake up tomorrow it'll all be stickered on John's forks.  If you hear any noises coming from back there, look before you choot!   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 10, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
I wondered if it was 4x4 with the new mill .
I was right !
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 10, 2015, 09:30:50 PM
Almost forgot, welcome to Team Orange. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:32:08 PM
I even surprised Peter.  I didn't tell him it was me until I got there  :D


Thanks, Dave, makes me feel warm and fuzzy  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 10, 2015, 09:34:52 PM
I see that the profile has changed.  smiley_thumbsup Congratulations on the new Orange, and thanks to Peter for being the host.

My, you guys could keep the Easter Bunny a secret.   :-X
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: JohnM on April 10, 2015, 09:35:12 PM
I know there is no straight route across VT and NH. :D
I went to pick up my (used) Lucas in Plattsburgh, NY from eastern Maine two years ago.  It's a beautiful drive, including a ferry ride, but a straight route was NOT part of the trip. :D

Congrats on the mill, 4x4!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 10, 2015, 09:35:41 PM
At least you didn't have to wait 14 years like I did. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
Thanks fellas... 8)


Dave I've been waiting for one since 1980!  Thats a long time cornsidering I wasn't even conceived yet  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 10, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
You will find that the wait was worth it.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 10, 2015, 09:48:20 PM
Lots to learn.  Looking forward to it  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 10, 2015, 10:00:13 PM
That's a lot of mill. 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 10, 2015, 10:10:07 PM
I am curious about the control panel/box.  I am assuming that it is Command Control and not stationary on the hitch end and can be moved? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 10, 2015, 10:16:09 PM
I am curious about the control panel/box.  I am assuming that it is Command Control and not stationary on the hitch end and can be moved? 



Just swings to one side and go.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on April 10, 2015, 10:45:05 PM
Nice! You are going to love that mill, 4x4! Is it a Super?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on April 10, 2015, 10:51:55 PM
congrats 4X4 and welcome to team Orange. May take a few days to wear that RED rust off your hands though!

 :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 11, 2015, 06:08:53 AM
Congrats on the new mill!!!! That Peter sure is a helpful guy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 11, 2015, 07:51:43 AM
4x4 did you go I-89 to Peters ?
If so you went right by my place exit 13 Grantham NH
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 11, 2015, 09:45:19 PM
Thanks everyone!  Sure was busy today..


Bruno- I mainly took Rt 11.  I was on some real rough roads for a spell and I noticed the sawhead slapping back and forth, but now I know that I can engage the auto clutch to keep it tight. 
I did get on I89 for one exit 12-11.


Barbender, yes it's a super  ;)  fixing to put my offbearers to work


MM-  it is stationary or remote as they call it.  it's pinned to the receiver hitch end side, just spin it around, pin it, and ready to rock.  I stay at the end of the mill and the sawhead rides through the log.





Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 11, 2015, 10:51:28 PM
Looks like a neat setup and with the hydraulic controls at your fingertips.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 12, 2015, 07:09:18 AM



 I noticed the sawhead slapping back and forth, but now I know that I can engage the auto clutch to keep it tight. 





















I can't believe Ross did not tell you to that with the head. ::) Or he did, And you where smiling to much to listen. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
So now you have to cut out a mill shed.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Lumber going out :D :D :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 27, 2015, 09:16:37 PM
It's good to see you sawing Peter.  Looks like you are drying out too. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 27, 2015, 09:21:14 PM
That's a good load where's she off to?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
It's good to see you sawing Peter.  Looks like you are drying out too. 

Yes the snow is gone and It is getting warmer too. The phone is ringing off the hook.
That was the 3# wack of lumber today. The other two were not quite as much.
Things are getting crazy, But it about time, A very long winter.  8) 8) 8) 8)



That's a good load where's she off to?

The next town over for a barn.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 27, 2015, 09:53:29 PM
Yup, it took me a while to get the initial flurry of jobs that had built up, knocked down.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 27, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
Better get them blades all sharped!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
Better get them blades all sharped!



I could if you stop calling me. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 27, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
I for one are glad to see pics of your place without snow.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 10:13:13 PM
I for one are glad to see pics of your place without snow.  :)

Me too :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 27, 2015, 10:16:27 PM
 :D :D :D  Hey now you didn't have ta return my call!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on April 27, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
I still have a pile of snow in my yard but it's getting shorter every day.

I had a customer call me today and wanted a lot of 2by red oak planks for a low bed.
It is stripped and he wants it yesterday.
I told him I could start it tomorrow, and he asked if he could pick it up Wednesday. I said yes, next Wednesday. He didn't like that idea.
He's moving on and getting it from someone else.
I felt like telling him "lack of planing on your part, doesn't make it an emergency on my part".....

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 10:42:01 PM
I bet he calls you back Jim. But you're right, His emergency is not yours. :D :D :D
I get customers try it with me too, I bet we all do.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 27, 2015, 10:46:24 PM
Big time.  It is crazy to me how poorly some people plan these sort of projects in advance.  Wouldn't you think that if you're taking the decking off, you might should have the new lumber ready to put on?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 27, 2015, 11:08:13 PM
Big time.  It is crazy to me how poorly some people plan these sort of projects in advance.  Wouldn't you think that if you're taking the decking off, you might should have the new lumber ready to put on?



 smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 28, 2015, 06:43:17 AM
It's not just the lumber business either. I have people walk into the hardware store just about every day wanting something today. I can understand the plumbing jobs that gets worse as the "repair" job goes on.  ;D  We are only a small store, not a store that has a roof an acre in size on top.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Tom L on April 28, 2015, 08:17:14 AM
the six pee's

proper planning prevents p*&}{ poor performance


happens every day here at the shop, the guys in the field don't need something until they go to put it in.
then all wonder where it is, then make it an emergency to get it on site because it is so important, and holding up the entire job.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on April 28, 2015, 09:38:32 AM
Normally I have some leftover timbers in the stack that I can go and get and put back on the mill and slice off one or two pieces to satisfy the "I need it now" customer.
I searched my piles and found one timber that would only make two pieces of the 12 he needed.
So that really didn't help.

I have another customer who ordered some 2x10 white oak planks for sill stock for a timber frame cabin he's going to build.
I cut up one 16' long log to make pieces for it.
The cabin is 18' x 25' and he needs 86 lineal feet of 2x10's as I figure it.
I got four 2x10x16 out of this log and two 8' pieces. I'm only 6 lineal feet short of the 86 needed.
Now he says he doesn't want to piece together short pieces as he has to drill holes into a stone foundation to secure the sill stock to the rocks. And he doesn't want to drill a lot of extra holes due to short pieces.
I've asked him what lengths does he expect to get from me.
I haven't heard back from him yet.
If he's going to reject these pieces due to them not being the exact lengths he wants I could have sold them to this "need it yesterday" guy.
You can't seem to win some days.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on April 28, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
I have another customer who ordered some 2x10 white oak planks for sill stock for a timber frame cabin he's going to build.
I cut up one 16' long log to make pieces for it.
The cabin is 18' x 25' and he needs 86 lineal feet of 2x10's as I figure it.
I got four 2x10x16 out of this log and two 8' pieces. I'm only 6 lineal feet short of the 86 needed.
Now he says he doesn't want to piece together short pieces as he has to drill holes into a stone foundation to secure the sill stock to the rocks. And he doesn't want to drill a lot of extra holes due to short pieces.
I've asked him what lengths does he expect to get from me.
I haven't heard back from him yet.
Jim Rogers

So, this beginner timber framer just emailed me that he expects me to supply him with two pieces 18' long and two pieces 25' long for his sills for his cabin.
We'll have to see if he'll accept the "real life" deals.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 28, 2015, 02:07:05 PM
I'll bet something like, "pay in full before I open a log".
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on April 28, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
I'll bet something like, "pay in full before I open a log".

In my area it is very hard to find tall straight white oak logs that will make 16' lengths. I can't even imagine a log that would make 2x10's 25' long. That would be huge at the butt end.

Hopefully he'll agree to take these and take two more 9' pieces to finish off his order.

 

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Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 01, 2015, 06:42:31 PM
Not that I'll catch up to Peter, but I got a load and a half of logs today.  :D Please excuse the slab pile disarray. It was a long winter, and sometimes the slabs didn't want to come out of the snowbank in an orderly fashion. :D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 01, 2015, 07:19:02 PM
That looks like some nice wood. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 01, 2015, 07:33:10 PM
Some nice stuff, and some firewood. A friend had about a dozen trees taken down in front of his garage. We burned the tops, and he had to truck the logs away. I helped buck the logs to get what I wanted out of them, he paid trucking. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 01, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Thats a deal I wouldn 't refuse!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 06, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
Another way to move the wood, A customer sent a truck the get some lumber and slabs.
Over the top. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 

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It works :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 07, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
Good job.  How many tries did it take to get that slab chain centered?   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 07, 2015, 06:42:42 PM
Good job.  How many tries did it take to get that slab chain centered?   :D





The first time, ;D


Had some very valuable walnut come in today
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 07, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
A little sappy, there, Partner. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 07, 2015, 09:41:07 PM
A little sappy, there, Partner. 



Yes it is , But the customer want's it cut and at $75.00 an hr I don't care. Cut into 1" and ½"
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 07, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
There you go Peter, that is my standard answer.  No matter what they want or what they are gonna do with it.  Saw it and get paid.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 07, 2015, 11:32:30 PM

Sawed this out of an american elm log with a crotch in it, was previously going to go for firewood until I rescued it.  Not sure what to do about that split

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on May 08, 2015, 05:23:18 AM
If it was me I would use a needle and inject it with some real good wood glue and clamp it up real good...
That crack would go away...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 08, 2015, 07:21:13 AM
Use a dutchman or butterfly on it.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2015, 09:16:28 AM
This past winter was rough on the sawmill, and I finally broke down and bought a new battery.

That made starting each morning easier that I didn't have do drag out the battery charger any more.

In testing the system I found that not only was the battery old and not holding a charge very well but the alternator was not putting out enough.

So, out with the old and in with the rebuilt:

 

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After swapping the pulleys:

 

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She starts nice and puts out lots of juice now.

All in the day of cutting wood.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 08, 2015, 12:42:47 PM
Good job Jim, And yes the winter was bad. Is your yard drying up?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on May 08, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
Yes fairly dry now.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on May 08, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
Second day sawing this spring.
Powder dry at my mill and dust everywhere.
Got 6mbf Hemlock in so far expecting 6mbf tomorrow and 13mbf in the next week.
All scale is Doyle.
Should keep me busy for quite a while as my help while great when here is working another job so I only saw 8' and 10' while alone..
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 08, 2015, 10:23:30 PM
http://www.facebook.com/741356707/videos/10153172270816708/
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on May 08, 2015, 11:03:17 PM
I read all these post about cutting thousands of feet of lumber per day.  Today I cut down 7 pines that were dead or dying from beetles. I bucked them and hauled them to the mill.  And late this afternoon I only managed to cut 6 or 7 logs.  Then I wanted to get it all stacked before dark.  Working by myself seems to take a lot more time than I thought it would.  What is a realistic BF/hour for someone cutting with a LT40 hydraulic.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 08, 2015, 11:21:26 PM
theres never enough time
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 09, 2015, 06:36:12 AM
http://www.facebook.com/741356707/videos/10153172270816708/




You know that kid?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 09, 2015, 06:49:40 AM
I read all these post about cutting thousands of feet of lumber per day.  Today I cut down 7 pines that were dead or dying from beetles. I bucked them and hauled them to the mill.  And late this afternoon I only managed to cut 6 or 7 logs.  Then I wanted to get it all stacked before dark.  Working by myself seems to take a lot more time than I thought it would.  What is a realistic BF/hour for someone cutting with a LT40 hydraulic?

Not an enormous amount of lumber in a day, but last Sat & Sun I sawed 3,300+ bf of W/Pine with 10.6 hours showing on the hour meter.

That comes out to 330 bf/hour.

I had two good helpers on the other side of the mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on May 09, 2015, 06:57:19 AM
flatrock58,I think the numbers you are seeing are logs at the sawmill,NOT still in the woods waiting to be cut down AND then hauled out to the sawmill. I do that,go out in the woods to get my logs. It is some slow but very satisfying. It's a good thing I don't do it for money.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 09, 2015, 08:34:58 AM
http://www.facebook.com/741356707/videos/10153172270816708/ (http://www.facebook.com/741356707/videos/10153172270816708/)




You know that kid?


No do you?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on May 09, 2015, 08:47:46 AM
thecfarm.  I read back over my post and it was clear as mud, sorry about that.  I tend to ramble and not make my point well.  I am an engineer and my wife says I should stick with numbers. 
I realize the large bf/hour numbers are people who are cutting logs at the sawmill with helpers.  I wanted to know what the guys cutting logs by themselves with a hydraulic mill cut per hour.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 09, 2015, 09:22:56 AM
With help, I have had many 150-175bf per hour days, but the 250-350bf per hour days are certainly much better. $$$

The only time that I saw without help is for myself, and that does not pay very well anyway.
 

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Sawing alone, this lumber got whack stacked.
 

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And then after I got a Grandson to help, it got stickered.

I understood your question, and I have never scaled a day's (or hour's) sawing when sawing alone.  After thinking a bit, the actual sawing would be about the same with or without help because it does not take an appreciable amount of time to kick a slab off.  The slowdown comes in when handling flitches and lumber as shown above.  I speeded up the sawing time by whack stacking, so again, how is sawing time and yield affected when sawing alone?  It depends upon what the sawing job is.  The hours saved by help is simply added to your sawing time.

Since I am not an engineer, I tend to think simply and I am content to accept what it is as what it is.  :)
 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on May 09, 2015, 09:55:32 AM
Thanks Magicman.  Having a grandson to help is a definite plus. I guess I need to just whack stack and not handle the lumber so much.  At then end of the day I look at what I have gotten done and it is always less than I had planned or expected.  After cutting dead pine beetle trees I am finally getting to cut some that are full of beetles but not yet dead. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 09, 2015, 08:17:48 PM
The Sticker Police will be paying you a visit  :D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 09, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
It won't do any good because that lumber is now a Cabin Addition.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on May 09, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
sawing time is never the issue, it always boils down to material handling, lot of time can be burnt in the process.  I saw solo most everyday, time in the log is short in comparison to moving the boards, cants and flitches. then there is there is the dust pile.  So if the quality is there in the lumber just keep on keeping on, and if you need to pick up the material handling pace, well there really is no other way than to recruit some extra hands. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 10, 2015, 07:09:45 AM
It won't do any good because that lumber is now a Cabin Addition.   :)
Here, photos constitute evidence.  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 10, 2015, 11:11:43 AM

Did some sunday shopping at the wal mart today  :D   Picked up some discount logs!  That's a 6 log load, had another smaller load after it.  About 1,825 bdft for $250 from a tree service from a "lot clearing" job.  No nails....we'll see!  Coffee breaks over time to go saw em up.

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 10, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
Looks like a nice load of W/Pine.   smiley_thumbsup   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 10, 2015, 11:49:56 AM
  No nails....we'll see! 
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Oh no, Sir, there are no nails in that tree.........Famous last words (Old Saying). 

If you tell me that there are absolutely no nails in that tree, I will not trust you with my daughter  :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 10, 2015, 12:25:54 PM
  No nails....we'll see! 
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Oh no, Sir, there are no nails in that tree.........Famous last words (Old Saying). 

If you tell me that there are absolutely no nails in that tree, I will not trust you with my daughter  :D.


 :D :D :D



Nice wood 4x4
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 10, 2015, 07:17:16 PM
It won't do any good because that lumber is now a Cabin Addition.   :)
Here, photos constitute evidence.  ::)
Where have you been ???   :D  Cabin Addition (http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,47709.0.html)   Check Reply# 25 and Reply# 29 for those particular pictures.   :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on May 10, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
  No nails....we'll see! 
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Oh no, Sir, there are no nails in that tree.........Famous last words (Old Saying). 

If you tell me that there are absolutely no nails in that tree, I will not trust you with my daughter  :D.

     Peter already did it, but I couldn't hep myself.  I had to do it again! :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 10, 2015, 10:23:09 PM

I had a helper today.  This big pine log...I had to chain it to the forks on the tractor.  Cause the cylinders drop so fast the seals are shot I need to repack them...Well anyways they drop so fast, and there's not enough power to pick them back up.  Just to get it to curl I had to pick it up, hope it didn't roll, and then lower the forks down on another log while curling back.  Then I chained it.  Pain right in the catoolum.  12' long

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 11, 2015, 06:57:31 AM
Looks good, And I like a green tractor. Did you get the bugs all worked out with the mill?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 11, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
I think so.  I am still crossing my fingers, but I think it's good to go.  Screwed around with the brake strap adjustment, it was stopping way to fast after I adjusted the belt.  Belt was loose.  I think I got the brake strap adjustment pretty decent, but when they say that you should be able to just pull up on it, do they mean JUST pull up on it or more of a pretty certain pull up on it?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 11, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
I think I got the brake strap adjustment pretty decent, but when they say that you should be able to just pull up on it, do they mean JUST pull up on it or more of a pretty certain pull up on it?






 say_what
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 12, 2015, 04:22:31 AM
I think so.  I am still crossing my fingers, but I think it's good to go.  Screwed around with the brake strap adjustment, it was stopping way to fast after I adjusted the belt.  Belt was loose.  I think I got the brake strap adjustment pretty decent, but when they say that you should be able to just pull up on it, do they mean JUST pull up on it or more of a pretty certain pull up on it?
For the adjustment go by how fast the blade stops.  I think it says how fast this should be in the manual.  I would  give it two seconds max.  Think about whether you want it stopped before your off bearer reaches in over the blade to grab an edging that fell off to the side.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 12, 2015, 07:51:55 AM
I don't have it right here, it's in the truck, but my manual does say that the band should stop turning within 4 seconds of disengagement.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 13, 2015, 10:15:05 PM
It's definitely stopping before that.   Thanks.  I didn't find that part in my manuel.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 27, 2015, 06:36:48 AM
Had a customer need stickers with his wood. This is how I do it.
 

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I use dry wood to make them, the lumber won't stain that way. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 29, 2015, 10:13:28 PM
How do you like that bander unit? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2015, 07:09:02 AM
How do you like that bander unit? 



It works well. Any one cutting lumber should have one.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2015, 07:14:48 AM
Had a Logger drop off some hardwood logs to be cut into trailer decking.
I ask, Is the truck big enough for the small load :D :D
 

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It is nice to be able to turn around a truck like that here. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2015, 03:20:27 PM
And then a nice load came in today. Customer want's all 1 1/8" as wide as I can get.
 

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All 16'
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on May 30, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Peter,
Good to see you are flat out again 8) 8)
Haven't seen you post much lately figured you were knee deep . :D :D
That's a nice load of wood 8) 8)
Jim/Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2015, 06:23:16 PM
Peter,
Good to see you are flat out again 8) 8)
Haven't seen you post much lately figured you were knee deep . :D :D
That's a nice load of wood 8) 8)
Jim/Bruno




 smiley_horserider smiley_chop dancing-jack smiley_wavy :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 30, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
What's that big beaver hinge on the top log?  :D I hate that. I'm tempted to knock those back to the next even foot.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 30, 2015, 07:15:10 PM
That looks like a nice payday.   smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2015, 08:16:26 PM
That looks like a nice payday.   smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup



When it's not -40 every day is a payday :D :D








What's that big beaver hinge on the top log?  :D I hate that. I'm tempted to knock those back to the next even foot.

I don't like it either, When I cut the customers logs He pays for all of it. :D :D :D
When I buy logs like that I sometimes will take off some BF.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 31, 2015, 09:12:38 PM
What's that big beaver hinge on the top log?  :D I hate that. I'm tempted to knock those back to the next even foot.


Yet another reason why using a humboldt notch is the best way to cut sawtimber.  Take the wedge out of the stump not out of the log.  Use a humboldt in front of most any eastern logger, especially if they're an old boy, and they think you're messed up in the head!   ???

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 31, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
BTW, for those that were wondering, in the pine logs that I posted a couple pages back, where the guy said there were no nails...well one log had 7 nails and a chain in it  8) 8)


Luckily I found them before I sunk any teeth into it...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 01, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
Last fall my logger brought in some logs from another "tree cutter" I hauled logs with my truck for this guy many many years ago. What a piece of work he was back then, and still is now.

He wanted me to mill up these logs into 2x4's and other items for some project he was going to do. I told him to call me at the end of the month as I was planning a trip and wanted to do his job right after I got back.

Well, he never called.
After a while I had gotten all the jobs on my list done except his and was preparing to do his next. I called my logger to get his phone number.
My logger said he had called him and canceled the job, and said I could have the logs.
Basically the logger got paid to haul them away, and I got used for a log dump.
That won't happen again, if I can help it.

So these 2x4's he wanted were to be 8' long. But the logger told him not to cut all the logs to 8' long as he wanted to haul a big load of longer ones. So he cut each 16' log part way through.
That was ok until he canceled the job and left me with a pile of logs cut half way through.

Recently, I got an order for some 2x6's 16' long. and some other shorter stuff from a lady with horses and riding stable that needed some fence stock.
I had the logger move some of the 16' logs up to the mill for me and I have sawn them up to fill the fence rail order.
To understand what part of the log was 16' and what part was shorter. I placed my framing square into cut in the log to show me the angle of the cut:

 

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I did manage to get some usable lumber out of these dead standing pines but most were holey from the bugs.

All in a day of cutting wood.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 01, 2015, 06:49:16 PM
I have not seen that before [cutting a log ½ way through] and truck it .
But you made it work, Good job.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on June 01, 2015, 07:03:50 PM
I have a similar job laying and waiting, same thing, just hate the bow that comes from it, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 01, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Yup, if it is a log with sweep and the cut is across the "wrong" log face, it could be difficult to recover any usable lumber.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 11, 2015, 06:31:25 AM
 

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I'm buying logs from a mechanize logger and I don't have to debark them.  :D
 

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And John went to a new home. :D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 11, 2015, 06:33:54 AM
Bye bye John. And that money will buy you a a lift to handle logs? I forget what kind now.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 11, 2015, 06:52:14 AM
Bye bye John. And that money will buy you a a lift to handle logs? I forget what kind now.


Maybe, I did clear about 5ac before John went. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 11, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Very creative with equipment names you are  :D 


So how did you distinguish between the two Johns?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 11, 2015, 10:42:32 PM
John and John Jr 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: ScottAR on June 11, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
I forsee a Lull in your future...  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 12, 2015, 12:24:36 AM
I hope to see a Lull in my future  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 16, 2015, 06:37:17 AM
Has anyone done this with small 10" logs ? I had a run on 5' grade stakes had to make more.
 

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I don't make a lot of money on them, Time wise, it's like making $45 to $50.00 an hour, but it gets customers in here to see what I have for lumber. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 16, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
I have "sawed double".
 

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It looked good but it did not work well for me because of the turning.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 16, 2015, 07:37:52 AM
I tried it once Peter, just because down in the South we have a saying...."Hey Y'all watch this!".
But I found I can saw individual logs faster than trying to saw 2, plus if you hit metal in 1 log, the blade will dive on both logs.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on June 16, 2015, 07:40:13 AM
I've tried it a few times with White Cedar logs, just don't like the idea of no debarker for the inside log, but it works.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 16, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
You da man Petah!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on June 16, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
Well the pine beetles finally got one of my largest pines.  It is about 32" at the base.  Cut it down today.  I was amazed at how big the first 5-10 growth rings were compared to the later ones.  I will be cutting this one up for framing to make a workshop and solar kiln.



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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 16, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
That wide growth ring portion might give you trouble.  You may need to flip it 180° after each board.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on June 16, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
Thanks Magicman.   I was wondering how it would act.  That is the kind of advice I need until I can get more experience.
 I was a little disappointed when I cut it.  Was really expecting some tight rings throughout and nice lumber.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 17, 2015, 07:19:17 AM
If you cut wide boards out of the center section that includes the first years of fast growth, and you center the pith from side to side in those boards, the older wood on the outside will make the juvenile wood on the inside behave itself. 

I see that you already have some blue stain.  Won't hurt the boards.  They will be the highly valuable denim pine  ;D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: flatrock58 on June 17, 2015, 08:29:50 AM
WDH I will try cutting them that way.  I had planned on cutting some 17' 2x6's for trusses, but the 17' butt log might be too heavy for me to move.  Will try and see.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on June 17, 2015, 05:41:42 PM
If you cut wide boards out of the center section that includes the first years of fast growth, and you center the pith from side to side in those boards, the older wood on the outside will make the juvenile wood on the inside behave itself. 

I see that you already have some blue stain.  Won't hurt the boards.  They will be the highly valuable denim pine  ;D.

     Danny, careful with the "denim pine" reference.  I understand some clown individual out west actually got a copyright on that name. ::)  Don't know if it's true or not. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on June 17, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Holy cow I would use the denim pine tag until i was sued.
EWP stains really easily and I cut a fair amount of it.
I had a bad day today backing my blade guide into the clamp and destroying the chain and a sprocket on the blade guide.
Ordered parts from WM and plan to do housekeeping around the mill until the parts arrive.
My sawing is on Eastern hemlock which is always a challenge regarding shake.
It seems I get bit every time I buy some.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 17, 2015, 08:22:20 PM
Haven't been sawing wood, been waiting on the right part to fix my head won't go down problem  :)
But I have been keeping busy with firewood, excavation work, and looking for land. 
Today we dug up an old drywell that bossman did 28 years ago.  Unplugged the holes, put in new #3 stone, installed a filter on the outlet of the septic tank, and then backfilled it.  They had us dump the extra slime on sight down back.  Get down back, and they guy has a sweet shooting range setup.  Even has a shooting shack with a little pulley to open the shooting window.  100 yard target down range.  A pistol range with some fun spinner targets and the ones that bounce from side to side.  To top it off, he's up high and has an awesome view of the Adirondack Mountains.  Then we went up top, where they had an issue with the driveway sinking.  So we started digging, and found the old foundation of his house that had burnt down was buried there.  He had us looking for a coffee can full of antique coins, to no avail.  But I did find an old reload case of .300 Savage that wasn't in bad shape.  Seen an old WM sawmill off the road a bit.  And enjoyed hauling the mini excavator through some good backroad mountain scenery.  The best part is we weren't far from home!  Get back to the shop/yard/pit and cut firewood for myself.  Today was a good day.   smiley_beertoast
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 21, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
I pick up a new chain and bar for my Dolmar saw . I allso bought a small saw to cut slabs.
 

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I had 5 minutes today to fab a table I'd been thinking about.
 

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It is a little Mad Max but I think It will work.
 

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I think I'll attach it where the hitch was.  And need to cut a little to get down on the jack.
 

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Want to come down a ½".  I'll put some legs on it Monday and try it.
 

When I get my parts I can fix the mill too. This is what happens when you don't have the board return all the way down and use it. :D :D
 

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But I did get the order all cut Friday.
 

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And a little Iron. :D :D
All in a day cutting wood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 21, 2015, 10:13:14 PM
You been busy, and I like da saw.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 21, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
Table looks good! Like the pictures  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 22, 2015, 06:20:10 PM
New guy Pine and hemlock.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 22, 2015, 07:08:41 PM
Nice.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 22, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
Too hot down here for measuring those  smiley_sweat_drop.  Last couple of weeks have been rough. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 22, 2015, 09:33:56 PM
Too hot down here for measuring those  smiley_sweat_drop.  Last couple of weeks have been rough. 






Hot here too, But I'm low on logs and the loggers are back at work. I have a mechanize outfit is going to bring 2 TT loads of hemlock. 16,000 BF more or less.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 23, 2015, 07:15:17 AM
"You saw a lot of wood, Pilgrim."
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 23, 2015, 07:50:10 AM
Pilgrim sells alot too.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 23, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
"You saw a lot of wood, Pilgrim."





Yes I do, But sometimes I think I'm nut's. I see you and YH cut 8' hardwood lumber to sell . And you guys don't have to wrestle 16' 2x12s or fight 40' timbers.  :D :D :D :D
And maybe cut ½ the wood I do and make 2x the money.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 23, 2015, 07:09:10 PM
The table works well, And the lumber almost stacks it self. :D :D
 

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But I still have to work on the edger wood. :D :D :D
 

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Not quite there,  :D :D



Ross called, New LT 40 HD next week will be in the yard. Someone from VT.  And they are a member here or read the FF I was told. Will see.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YellowHammer on June 23, 2015, 09:02:40 PM
"You saw a lot of wood, Pilgrim."


Yes I do, But sometimes I think I'm nut's. I see you and YH cut 8' hardwood lumber to sell . And you guys don't have to wrestle 16' 2x12s or fight 40' timbers.  :D :D :D :D
And maybe cut ½ the wood I do and make 2x the money.  :D :D :D

That's the secret, you are sawing too fast... :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 23, 2015, 09:30:37 PM
Do you ever clean up or just let the snow cover it up?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 23, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
I thought it looked pretty clean  :). 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 23, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
Do you ever clean up or just let the snow cover it up?  :D :D :D




My yard is clean and looks very professional.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 23, 2015, 10:00:58 PM
I can second that notion ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 23, 2015, 10:52:11 PM
"You saw a lot of wood, Pilgrim."


Yes I do, But sometimes I think I'm nut's. I see you and YH cut 8' hardwood lumber to sell . And you guys don't have to wrestle 16' 2x12s or fight 40' timbers.  :D :D :D :D
And maybe cut ½ the wood I do and make 2x the money.  :D :D :D

That's the secret, you are sawing too fast... :D





I don't have a clock on the wall. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on June 23, 2015, 11:36:12 PM
Do you ever clean up or just let the snow cover it up?  :D :D :D
Peter
Da goats chewin on your pantleg..   When I saw the pics, I was going to comment on how clean it looked.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 24, 2015, 06:17:54 AM
Do you ever clean up or just let the snow cover it up?  :D :D :D
Peter
Da goats chewin on your pantleg..   When I saw the pics, I was going to comment on how clean it looked.  ;D




Yeah, I know goats are like that. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on June 24, 2015, 06:23:31 AM
Now if only those boards would self sticker,you could really go fast.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on June 24, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
Peter, what kind of banding is that? I have been using the orange woven poly kind with buckles, it works great but the 3/4" stuff is really overkill for strength, and it's kind of spendy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: mesquite buckeye on June 24, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
Happy birthday BB. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on June 24, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 24, 2015, 08:57:14 PM
Peter, what kind of banding is that? I have been using the orange woven poly kind with buckles, it works great but the 3/4" stuff is really overkill for strength, and it's kind of spendy.


I get all that stuff from U Line.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on June 24, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
It looks you have the green poly. Does it use buckles, or seals?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 24, 2015, 09:40:48 PM
Seals, the ones with a ruff face on the inside.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 25, 2015, 07:37:49 PM
I thought seals were going extinct why do they keep using them












 ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 25, 2015, 09:03:23 PM
Big day Tuesday, New mill here at 9am.
I will take Pics
If the new owner reads this Say hi . 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 25, 2015, 10:02:40 PM
 8)   Tell them I said copycat!  ;D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 26, 2015, 07:16:38 AM
New mills are nice.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 26, 2015, 05:42:19 PM
New mills are nice.




You still have the 15 listed. Are you waiting for a delivery? ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 26, 2015, 05:49:24 PM
New mills are nice.

 ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 26, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
New mills are nice.




You still have the 15 listed. Are you waiting for a delivery? ;D

I don't think so. He's just having too much fun torturing us. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 26, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
The "15" shows as "Sold". 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on June 26, 2015, 08:48:30 PM


I don't think so. He's just having too much fun torturing us. ;)
[/quote]

     Uh...  Yes. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 26, 2015, 09:31:31 PM
I may have to come clean before someone has a hissy fit (old saying).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 26, 2015, 09:50:02 PM
I was gonna ask but then I didn't..


soo


is it orange?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 27, 2015, 09:54:04 AM
The "15" shows as "Sold".

Not in your signature line, which I think is what Peter was talking about.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 27, 2015, 10:31:02 AM
Yup, I have been watching it too.  The signature says nothing about an LT40 Hydraulic with a Diesel engine.   ;D   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 27, 2015, 11:59:01 AM
The "15" shows as "Sold".

Not in your signature line, which I think is what Peter was talking about.




 smiley_thumbsup smiley_gossip :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 27, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
I may have to come clean before someone has a hissy fit (old saying).

If you're not careful the goat might fly off the handle.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 27, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
I may have to come clean before someone has a hissy fit (old saying).

If you're not careful the goat might fly off the handle.

I might have a "hissy fit".  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 27, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
That must be a sight to see. :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on June 27, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
That must be a sight to see. :o

     Oh, it is!  I can't remember the last time I laughed that hard. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 27, 2015, 08:41:16 PM
The "15" shows as "Sold".

Not in your signature line, which I think is what Peter was talking about.





 smiley_thumbsup smiley_gossip :D :D :D :D :D :D

It's updated now!

Congratulations on the new mill WDH! 8) 8) You can hang that Arky Super Stick on the wall now. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 27, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
You can hang that Arky Super Stick on the wall now. ;)

 ;D

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 27, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
 8)   Hopefully you don't have any bugs to work out of it!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 27, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
The signature says nothing about an LT40 Hydraulic with a Diesel engine.   ;D   :D 
Oh my, was it a guess, or was it.....Magic.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 27, 2015, 09:24:21 PM
Good for you WDH. Do you have the walk or ride? When you get it all set up with the edger we would like to see a pic.



In the mean time, Look what I got.  8) 8)

 

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I GOT HEMLOCK load #1. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: stanwelch on June 27, 2015, 11:47:20 PM
Congrats on the upgrade, Danny.  HYDRAULICS gotta love um! You are gonna fill up the shed with sawdust real quick.   8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 28, 2015, 07:19:26 AM
Nice load Peter.  I know you were smiling.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 28, 2015, 07:28:40 AM
Peter, the LOG MAGNET.

OK.  A pic with the set-up soon. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Andries on June 28, 2015, 06:54:42 PM
Congratulations WDH - thinking that with the hydraulics and diesel power - it's going to be a whole new (milling) world!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 29, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
5100.0 BF on the truck, One log 20' long did not look good, so I cut it in ½. :D :D
 

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Today I hit a pitch pocket in a W Pine. Do you guys get that in the south and in the west with your Pine?

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 29, 2015, 08:40:34 PM
Yes, I do sometimes hit pitch pockets with SYP and even ERC.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 29, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
Tell WDH its Persimmon.....you'll get rid of it quick Peter.  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 29, 2015, 08:55:34 PM
Tell WDH its Persimmon.....you'll get rid of it quick Peter.  :D



 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Just dead stack it for a week or two and let it turn black.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 29, 2015, 09:27:54 PM
OK, Pine Man with an occasional hemlock thrown in (but it has shake)  :D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 29, 2015, 10:19:12 PM
OK, Pine Man with an occasional hemlock thrown in (but it has shake)  :D. 



Don't forget my cherry. ;D
 

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No shake just a little Iorn. ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 30, 2015, 07:26:48 AM
You touched Danny in a tender (Cherry) spot then.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 30, 2015, 05:50:21 PM
New mill came in today,
 

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A nice man I met from VT, Has plans to saw a lot of wood. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 30, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Looks like it's one pump short of a super!  Did you remind Ross to tell him to engage the autoclutch for his ride home  :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on June 30, 2015, 06:01:11 PM
Looks like it's one pump short of a super!  Did you remind Ross to tell him to engage the autoclutch for his ride home  :D

Supposed to engage the clutch during travel?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 30, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
Thats really nice Peter. I have forgotten how BRIGHT ORANGE a new mill is.
Will you be adding 2 additional log stops or do you just use 2 ?
Aga :)in, Congrats!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 30, 2015, 06:06:54 PM
Looks like it's one pump short of a super!  Did you remind Ross to tell him to engage the autoclutch for his ride home  :D

Supposed to engage the clutch during travel?


Yup.  I didn't know that either when I picked up my mill at Peters...I was watching the head slap back and forth in the rearview doing some backroad banging on the way home.  Then I was informed, you're supposed to engage the autoclutch  :D   Just don't forget to engage it when you get where you're going.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 30, 2015, 06:10:04 PM
Thats really nice Peter. I have forgotten how BRIGHT ORANGE a new mill is.
Will you be adding 2 additional log stops or do you just use 2 ?
Aga :)in, Congrats!


Taint Petahs mill, ya silly goat!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on June 30, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
Shore is purdy.    :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 30, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
No 4x4 I did not I had customers here at the time.
Mr goat the mill went to VT, I just gave Ross a place to train the new owner. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 30, 2015, 08:25:10 PM
I didn't realize that I could have trained at your place.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 30, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
Sshhh WDH he's gonna start charging soon!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 30, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
I didn't realize that I could have trained at your place.

We still have no photographic evidence of your new mill. ;) :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 30, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
We all thought you got a new mill.
Its not nice to get all our Goats.  >:(
Danny is still KING of the new mills!  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 30, 2015, 09:46:05 PM
Dave,

I have cut the mustard (old saying, sort of). 

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,84273.msg1287857.html#msg1287857
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 30, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
We all thought you got a new mill.
Its not nice to get all our Goats.  >:(
Danny is still KING of the new mills!  :)





IF I get a new mill It will be the new 70 WIDE HEAD HD :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on July 01, 2015, 08:01:42 AM
With wireless? It's easy better than a seat. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: grweldon on July 01, 2015, 11:04:31 AM
Dave,

I have cut the mustard (old saying, sort of). 

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,84273.msg1287857.html#msg1287857

I hadn't seen this.  Great setup you have Danny.  I like the paint job on the kiln!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 08, 2015, 06:38:19 AM
A customer gave me an edging blade 30". The one in my WM edger is 14".
With 30" that must of been some edger. :o
 

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And yes, it is very sharp like a new one with rust. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on July 08, 2015, 07:45:38 AM
That is neat.  You gonna paint a sign on it or something?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on July 08, 2015, 07:25:44 PM
Looks like it's one pump short of a super!  Did you remind Ross to tell him to engage the autoclutch for his ride home :D

Supposed to engage the clutch during travel? 


I don't know about the Super's, but for the Regular Hydraulic and the Manual LT-40's, it is recommended that the clutch/brake lever be pulled to the run position when in transit.

This takes the weight off of the brake and prevents the engine from flopping up and down, which can lead to the brake breaking!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on July 08, 2015, 07:52:13 PM
Thanks Chuck, mine has the auto clutch.  I guess I'll flip the switch from now on. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 15, 2015, 05:22:49 PM
Trucks today.
 

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One to get chips
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on July 15, 2015, 07:21:04 PM
So I'm guessing that lowboy brought that loader?


 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 15, 2015, 09:41:47 PM
So I'm guessing that lowboy brought that loader?


 8)




Yes, To get 6 or 700 yards. Not much, but some $$$  ;D
How you doing with your mill? Did you break it yet ? :D :D :D :D
Do you have a lot of work?

I'm buying logs from two mechanize outfits now. They're a little ruff on the logs, but they get me wood and a lot of it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on July 15, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
Ahh ICIC.  Yea alot of times a if a local company is hauling alot, they'll bring their loader to our pit to load their trucks.


Mill is going good.  Making some money with it.  It's been a bit self destructive but we're on the right track now.  I have quite a bit of work lined up but not enough time!  I have a portable job coming up in Dannamora, which is the town where those prisoners escaped from the jail there.  About a 2.25hr haul for me.  Gonna bring a tent.  Thats in the last weekend of July the guy thinks he'll be ready.  Got a guy with whole mess of black locust for me to saw.  As soon as he gets a dozer in and levels out a spot for me and stages the logs.  This guy is a firewood guy, and has a hard time telling the difference between sawlog and firewood.  Got a few other portable jobs and have been selling retail building lumber to local folks.  Working to get setup better so I can make this a full time venture.  We've been so busy at work I've not had any days off for milling and been working 10-12hr days for them then coming back and trying to do stuff with the mill.  Speaking of which I gotta get to bed!   smiley_wavy
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 16, 2015, 06:51:07 PM
Good you are busy, Make money now snow is on the way. :D :D :D
I had a traffic jam today, :D
 

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Then the logger came too.
 

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A 100 yards of chips go and 6000 BF of wood comes. See the logger over the red truck cab :D :D
A good day sold a few hundred yards of chips and lumber, And got some nice logs.
 

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And some 20' logs.
 

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With a mechanize logger you don't need a debarker. :D :D :D
I wonder how the guy from VT is going with his mill.
I had to put some ATF on the shaft so the blade would slide easily. Have to do that from time to time.
 

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Well, I'm going out to scale some logs now, :D :D :D ;D Will talk to you later 4x4. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 16, 2015, 07:40:12 PM
Peter you are flat out !
The logs look like they are good quality ?
How's the retail sales going ?
I'm going to get some birds eye maple logs from my BIL when I get time to pick them up .
Jim/Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 16, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
You better get cracking (old saying) Mr. Pine Man. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on July 16, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
The mechanized loggers sure do a number on the bark.  I have a friend with a stroke de-limber on his lineup of equipment.  That thing really tears the hell outta the logs!  Looks like you're going going going!  Good to see!  Keep that saw in the wood!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 16, 2015, 10:24:54 PM
Peter you are flat out !
The logs look like they are good quality ?
How's the retail sales going ?
I'm going to get some birds eye maple logs from my BIL when I get time to pick them up .
Jim/Bruno


I'm selling lumber but we like to sell more. ;D





You better get cracking (old saying) Mr. Pine Man. 




A TT load of W Pine tomorrow. :D





The mechanized loggers sure do a number on the bark.  I have a friend with a stroke de-limber on his lineup of equipment.  That thing really tears the hell outta the logs!  Looks like you're going going going!  Good to see!  Keep that saw in the wood!



Yes, there are ruff, But if you want wood they can get it in a day or two.
I was talking to the driver today. And he said the cutter [Tiger Cat ] can cut for one day and keep two big Cat grapple skidders going for a week. :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on July 17, 2015, 06:39:26 PM
yea, no kidding either!  the mechanized outfits sure can cut alot of wood, but they also need to be sending out alot of loads daily to be breaking even (in alot of cases)...whereas Just a guy with a skidder can cut a load a week and be paying his bills
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 03, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
Resizing some beams today
 

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7x9 down to 5x8     16'  12'  10's
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 03, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
I enjoy seeing pictures of your operation Peter.  Very professional. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 03, 2015, 09:16:10 PM
That shed is looking good.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on August 04, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
I take it that those were the ones that showed up on a trailer while you were away, and you didn't know who brought them or why they were there.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 04, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
I take it that those were the ones that showed up on a trailer while you were away, and you didn't know who brought them or why they were there.

Jim Rogers



 smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: sawyerf250 on August 06, 2015, 09:58:18 AM
l follow this thread and am very envious of you all and having saw mills of different shapes sizes and colors, l would love for the day to come soon enough that l can buy my first mill and saw all my own lumber for sheds another barn and eventually a new house for me and the bride to be. All of which would come off of woodlot my family and l own and do as some of u and make a small living off of it as well. Along with the many other ventures it's going to take to keep things going when l finally get the courage to tell off "The Man"  :D and become self employed. But for now l'm content (l suppose) :-\ seeing the pics of your mills, lumber, new sheds and buildings as well as the stories.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on August 06, 2015, 11:51:00 AM
Had a first today. Set up a half log to saw up into 2x4's and on the first cut about 18" in, BAMB! Yep, first blade that busted on me. Yes, I jumped a little, but was quick to see what had happen. ;D

 

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Got my $13.50 out of that blade. 150 something 2x4'sx10', a few 26"x2"x10 slabs and a bunch on 1"x10'. When I had shut down Tuesday, I knew the blade was getting dull, but was still cutting.

The crack thru the blade was a fracture across.

Anyway, thru on a new blade, sawed that log up, stacked and stickered.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2015, 12:04:02 PM
 Cut a little white oak log this morning to try the mill out. 10" x12" x38'-4".



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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Tom L on August 06, 2015, 01:35:09 PM
how big was that tree to begin with?

that is one long beam.

that mill would look like a stretch limo driving down the road  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on August 06, 2015, 04:08:49 PM
Now that is one heck of a beam.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
how big was that tree to begin with?

that is one long beam.

that mill would look like a stretch limo driving down the road  :D :D

This big:

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on August 06, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
Looks like you had to walk over to the next parish just to take that picture. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on August 06, 2015, 07:19:46 PM
`Fishfighter
I like your set up. Blade break makes me jump too. :D :D


Dave S

Nice to have a straight tree to start with.
I tell the customer the straighter the tree . The smaller the top. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 06, 2015, 07:28:06 PM
I like that beam, Dave.   ;)

Fishfighter, dull blades will shorten blade life.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
I've got three more logs on deck for in the morning. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 06, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Dave,

That rascal looks pretty clear, too. Nice!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2015, 08:54:14 PM
The first 25 or 30 feet are spotless. Hard to salvage side lumber from from wo. The cant moves so much you can't get boards of a consistent thickness, and you have to take a lot of thin cuts to get a straight timber.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on August 06, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
well tell the cant to stop moving then!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 06, 2015, 09:15:47 PM
White oak is the Chuck Norris of trees. You don't tell it what to do. It tells you what to do. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YoungStump on August 06, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/32818/image~45.jpg)

White oak might be Chuck Norris but hickory is still the devil, been fighting these self destructing things the last while, nothing like watching a beautiful butt log turn into split firewood before your eyes.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 06, 2015, 09:30:39 PM
I hate it when that happens. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YoungStump on August 06, 2015, 09:36:43 PM
Yeah yesterday didn't go so well, as if the hickory wasn't aggravating enough I had to run into a couple logs full of nails.

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Think I broke my personal best sawed thru 15 nails on this cut.  >:(
Thankfully today went much better.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on August 07, 2015, 07:11:03 AM
It does not get any worse than hickory with nails  :).
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on August 07, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
The fact that you were able to make it through 15 nails without the blade diving is a miracle in itself.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on August 07, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
I know one thing. Fresh fell oak, sawed 2x8x14' are very heavy to off load, stack and sticker. I think I will just fell enough oak trees, stack them for a couple weeks to dry somewhat. Besides the 100F temp didn't help at all.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on August 07, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
ff
Hate to tell ya, but they won't change much weight in a couple weeks. Just as well saw 'em up.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on August 07, 2015, 07:36:47 PM
beenthere,
 I just finished sawing 2k bf of 2 year old red oak.Still wet,still heavy.
 Now I'm sawing white cedar and feel much younger.
Mick
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on August 07, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
ff
Hate to tell ya, but they won't change much weight in a couple weeks. Just as well saw 'em up.

Knew that, but just trying to talk myself out of sawing anything in this heat. ;D

Firewood cutting tomorrow. I have oak tops down everywhere and hate to see them go to waste. At $240 a cord of oak, it's a go.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OneWithWood on August 07, 2015, 10:06:59 PM
note to self:  raise price on wo firewood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 5quarter on August 08, 2015, 01:25:46 AM
Yeah yesterday didn't go so well, as if the hickory wasn't aggravating enough I had to run into a couple logs full of nails....

sometimes yer da windshield, sometimes yer da bug.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 22, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Ross teases me with a wide head  :D
 

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Nice day in VT 8)
 Guard here too ;D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on September 23, 2015, 07:50:47 AM
Looks like it was a fun day,,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on September 23, 2015, 08:04:32 AM
Oh boy I bet you could hardly resist the temptation of bringing that wide head home to replace your super!


Looks like a good day in the NEK
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on September 23, 2015, 08:39:41 AM
Fair days are fun days.  I believe that Ross is just showing off.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 23, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Will see If I can get a deal on the 15 wide head at the last fair. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 23, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
I was sharpening some new blades and found some turbos in a box of reg. 7
I put red ink on them so I can see if I have the CBN wheel set right.
But I found that my CBM did not go to the bottom of the gullet.
 

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Can you see the red at the bottom?
Turbos are deeper. They will be Reg 7s when I am done in 4 or 5 sharpening. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 24, 2015, 07:41:52 AM
You prefer regular 7 over the Turbo 7? I really like the deep gullet on the Turbo. I just ordered a box of .055 Turbo's for my mill. We run .045 at work, but I like .055 better.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 24, 2015, 12:49:12 PM
You prefer regular 7 over the Turbo 7? I really like the deep gullet on the Turbo. I just ordered a box of .055 Turbo's for my mill. We run .045 at work, but I like .055 better.





I like the 55 too. But when I buy reg 7 I want 7 not turbo 7.
When my CBN wheel is done , Maybe I'll get a turbo CBN.
I like to run one kind of blade and one kind of CBN wheel at a time. ;D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 07, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
Customer  picking up some lumber.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: deadfall on November 07, 2015, 06:43:45 PM
Wheel, Steering, olive drab, 1 ea.

(http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/SAM_0259.JPG)

Does not even look used.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on November 07, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
Road ah many ah mile in da back of one of those.   :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: rasman57 on November 07, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
Everything about your photo is just cool.....hard to get much more USA made and The American Small Business working than that.    Sgt. Hulka could be hiding in the back....
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: logboy on November 07, 2015, 09:07:33 PM
If you think that truck is cool, then there's a good chance you've never huddled in the back of one with two other squads of troops, freezing your butts off. Or for that matter, in the front, dislocating a vertebrae on every bump in the road. They are not built for comfort.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 12:30:50 AM
Allways wanted one....
So I made one....

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: deadfall on November 08, 2015, 12:33:58 AM
I love it!   smiley_thumbsup

Why are you logging and milling when you could be running your own theme park?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 12:36:34 AM
I love it!   smiley_thumbsup

Thanks....
I love my Jeep better...

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on November 08, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Go Army !!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on November 08, 2015, 05:52:36 AM
Kbeitz,
 Where is your scale model train set? You and loggah ought to get together then  we would really see some redneck engineering. Compliments intended.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 06:41:23 AM
This is not the place to post my builds....
I could fill up a few pages with the stuff I build..
Every year I build one or two things...
The Jeep is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on November 08, 2015, 07:06:40 AM
Well let's see a thread started!


What is that cluster of 3 switches for there on the left of steering wheel?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 09:39:58 AM
Well let's see a thread started!


What is that cluster of 3 switches for there on the left of steering wheel?

Air horns and siren...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 08, 2015, 11:18:17 AM
Thats got to be the neatest ride I've seen. You have a talent.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: deadfall on November 08, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
I had a 1951 Air Force Jeep.  It probably was only used for carting colonels and higher around tarmacs.  Some previous owner had it undercoated but it all fell off because the underside of the fenders were waxed. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 04:54:57 PM
Here is a video of it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p98T5FiAPrY

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on November 08, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Kbeitz,what are you using for a running gear? Golf carts?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on November 08, 2015, 07:18:47 PM
Only in the jeep...
I use many things...
burden carrier was used for the Duce.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 14, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Had some customers bring in logs to cut for them. Some good, some not so good.
 

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 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/SAM_0261.JPG) 

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/SAM_0262.JPG) Some with a free sign. :D :D :D


Cut a cherry mantel for a guy today and 2" slabs.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on November 14, 2015, 06:00:47 PM
This is not the place to post my builds....
I could fill up a few pages with the stuff I build..
Every year I build one or two things...
The Jeep is one of my favorites.
another place for grits :D :D  I guess we are not friends?  but a nice build for sure,,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on November 30, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
I pick up a new chain and bar for my Dolmar saw . I allso bought a small saw to cut slabs.
 

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I had 5 minutes today to fab a table I'd been thinking about.
 

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It is a little Mad Max but I think It will work.
 

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I think I'll attach it where the hitch was.  And need to cut a little to get down on the jack.
 

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Want to come down a ½".  I'll put some legs on it Monday and try it.
 

When I get my parts I can fix the mill too. This is what happens when you don't have the board return all the way down and use it. :D :D
 

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But I did get the order all cut Friday.
 

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And a little Iron. :D :D
All in a day cutting wood.

I want to build something similar to this how's it working for ya peter?  Do you have any pictures of it all setup? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 30, 2015, 12:00:53 PM
I'll get some.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: goose63 on November 30, 2015, 05:03:44 PM
I sure could use a truck like that
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 01, 2015, 07:44:00 AM
Thanks, I preciate it.  I'm going to pick up a 1/4"x28"x4' plate today to get started on it.  Been sawing heavy slabs lately and I want to make it so that I don't need to have another person helping.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 01, 2015, 05:12:14 PM
Here you go my friend.

 

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I used 2" pipe and some feet I had. The whole thing comes off.
And is 1½" above the hydro box, 3 of the feet go to the floor and one on the mill. Most of the slabs pounding coming off a log goes to the floor and not the mill.

Good luck 4x4  smiley_wavy
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 01, 2015, 08:14:31 PM
Thanks, Peter, that helps more than you know!


I'm about 3/4 of the way there, this is where I'm at:
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 09, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
This load Monday.
 

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And today
 

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Then he showed up. :D :D
 

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I'm going to be ½ the day scaling and putting them all away.  smiley_whip :D :D
 

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Had a customer wanted some wood cut ::)
First this.
 

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Then some Apple wood and red Oak.
 

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Then I walked over to the logs I just got and saw this. :D
 


 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22511/SAM_0351.JPG) How much BF would take off from this log?
I bet It looks like this on the inside.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 09, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
At least the split went pretty well flat down that pine log!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on December 09, 2015, 06:56:32 PM
4x4
I thought that was a chainsaw cut...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Nomad on December 09, 2015, 07:10:04 PM
     Peter, you ain't got no snow yet.  And you're still complaining? :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 09, 2015, 07:11:31 PM
 :D :D  I didn't catch that, I just saw it and thought to myself, wow, they never split that straight!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 09, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
     Peter, you ain't got no snow yet.  And you're still complaining? :D

 :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 09, 2015, 10:38:50 PM
     Peter, you ain't got no snow yet.  And you're still complaining? :D





It will come, then I'll do it in the snow. :D
It has been nice, 50° today and looks to be that way for a week or so.
Scaling is the pits, but it's part of it.
 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 15, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Frost going in and coming out makes for some mud, Then the sun came out. And it helped dry it up some.
 

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Hay 4x4, Are you skipping 9 2bys at a time on your new table yet?
 :D :D :D
 

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Hemlock.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 15, 2015, 09:57:56 PM
Pretty good!  I haven't sawed construction lumber in awhile, kinda looking forward to sawing some in the next couple days for a guy down the road.  Love it when I can pull the mill to the job with my tractor.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 19, 2015, 06:23:59 AM
Giving the edger a workout.
How are the mods on the mill working out 4x4?
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 19, 2015, 06:42:43 AM
Great but definitely need dragback fingers, the boards like to go everywhere.  Once I get some more time to do some welding/fabric making I'll nelly some up.  But for now, I'll just keep making gray hairs.  I finally painted the table last night.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 21, 2015, 06:40:36 PM
A customer with some Apple  :D :D :D
 

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Just cutting around the hole.  :D :D
 

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A Day cutting wood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 21, 2015, 06:43:26 PM
Surprised.  I figured that would be bowl turning blanks.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on December 21, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
I was smelling  butt roast and ribs, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: dustyhat on December 21, 2015, 06:53:49 PM
Man that looked like one big bad knot :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on December 21, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
Them Apple logs can become a head scratcher as to which way to start sawing.
Looks good Peter.  :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 21, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Good grief!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 21, 2015, 08:29:22 PM
Good grief!







Just what I was thinking :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 21, 2015, 08:39:10 PM
Did a weekend pine job.  Towed mill there with tractor, too sloppy to get there with truck.  Hard to see, but the way the mill was setup I was on my tippy toes trying to see where the clamp was.  Actually enjoyed the mill being so high for a change.


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Got that done then came back cleaned up my yard and set back up.  Got some spruce on the deck and oak is up next.
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 21, 2015, 10:37:40 PM
Good job, That is some nice pine. It's always fun sawing nice logs.
And I love the Green tractor. :D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 21, 2015, 10:53:33 PM
Thanks!  I had a blast sawing the pine.  It's been awhile, and something about that accuset 2 and making the offbearer scramble is just fun :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 21, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
BTW, I know it's been brought up before here but I've forgotten already, sawing that spruce there's smoke/steam coming out with the sawdust.  What's that about  ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on December 21, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
The log/sawdust was warmer than the outside air.  Kinda like blowing your breath out but in this case, the log was blowing sawdust.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 22, 2015, 06:56:17 AM
Thanks, Lynn.  The blade broke out of the cut at the weld shorty after, so I wasn't sure if I was pushing too hard or something.  But I've read others having similar problems with these wm 7/34 blades.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on February 04, 2016, 10:30:57 AM
Not a turbo 7° but a break the same, except I've never seen one jump out like this one,  first time ever, (i've seen a few break) ;D   
 

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before anyone asks,  I had the guard on, it just flopped out when I pulled the cover..
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on February 04, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
 :D  There sems to be no limit as to what a broken blade will do.   :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on February 04, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
I've had a couple do that, over the years, and I've had them so tangled that I take the B-57's off before trying to free up the band!  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on February 04, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Part of my cover is made out of 2x6 wood. I had a broken blade stick in the wood
far enough that i had to use vise gripes to pull it out.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on February 04, 2016, 05:38:22 PM
Tuesday I pulled my blades out of the flat pack box I keep them in, and one of them was broken.  Must have been just too much for it to think of going back on the mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 04, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Wow, Was you just getting started to make a cut, and it went just before you went into the log?
I never had that happen.




My day was not as exciting as yours. Cut a little W Oak.
 

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And this thing W Oak.
 

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I will cut them for a customer But, I don't like to. I like cutting reg logs. Like this cherry today.

 

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Had a customer buy the log, 10' 250 BF. Then cut it in ½.  :D :D :D.

More mud today.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: etroup10 on February 04, 2016, 07:48:09 PM
I haven't sawed too many, but every white oak crotch that I've milled, it's had a lot of green color too it. Anyone else experience that? I haven't seen them after they dried so I don't know if it still has that color after drying.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on February 04, 2016, 08:40:46 PM
Fresh felled Walnut also has a green tint when it is sawn.  Oxidation happens fast and that tint goes away quickly.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 04, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
I've had a couple do that, over the years, and I've had them so tangled that I take the B-57's off before trying to free up the band!  ;)


I had to do that tuesday, take off the B57 to free a band, less fighting that's for sure.


Fresh felled Walnut also has a green tint when it is sawn.  Oxidation happens fast and that tint goes away quickly.


I love that green tint.  It's neat to watch it turn. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 15, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
Trucker came with some 24'&20' hemlock today.

 

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And some shake  :D :D

 

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And one I don't know why. :D :D

 

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I will cut it and get some 2x4s out of it, And I did give him a little $ for it. 

This one I deducted an 8x8 right out of the scale. He gross out 4000BF

 

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All an all some nice wood, Should have a truck with 6000Bf coming too with hemlock.
With the cold here. We have to giddy up to get some wood in. Next will be some W Pine. And maybe, just maybe, some W Oak. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 15, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
Nice.  On the ones with shake, will you cut around the shake?  I have some hemlock logs with shake and I am wondering if it's just bad where the shake is or if the whole log is no good because of it? A local logger once told me that he won't send out any hemlock for sawlogs unless it has sat for two weeks to see if any shake starts to show and that if there is any he'll send it for pulp instead.  Just curious because where the logs are it will be a hassle to get them out so it'd have to be worthwhile to saw them, or else I'll just buck for firewood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 15, 2016, 08:19:56 PM
Hard call sometimes. I don't want shake, but it comes in sometimes. I can see it when the tree is cut down. When you cut as much hemlock as I have, you will have an eye for it. On that log I will box the shake and use it for blocking. I will get some lumber out of it too.
A tree cut with a chain saw is easy to see it. Cut with a fellabuncher can be tricky. All in a day cutting wood.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 15, 2016, 09:33:37 PM
Yup I saw the shake as soon as I dropped it.  I've heard it called wind shake, and ring shake, the latter being a disease or something.  Any truth to that?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on February 15, 2016, 09:52:32 PM
Shake is disease/bacteria between the growth rings, but I have no idea how or why.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: venice on February 15, 2016, 09:53:31 PM
Tension for the most part. Frost sometimes. But no disease. As far as i know.

venice
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 15, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
So you can see my confusion  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: venice on February 15, 2016, 10:12:35 PM
To my knowlege an infection would be a secondary occurence following the separation of the growth rings caused by force or frost. Hence the name "wind shake". Some species are more prone to it than others.

venice
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on February 15, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
Venice
Not wind shake... it's an "old wives" tale...

bacteria introduced somehow, and several theories as to how... even cattle grazing around the tree roots.

http://www.nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_ne267/gtr_ne267_156.pdf
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 15, 2016, 10:47:55 PM
BT is there a website where you find these forest service pdf's?  Would love to poke around lots of good info they have. 

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: beenthere on February 15, 2016, 11:12:22 PM
4x4
Google "Hemlock tree ring shake bacteria Shigo" for what I found.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 16, 2016, 08:34:59 AM
I kept smelling something on my hands last night. Couldn't wash it off. Then I remembered I'd been working a hemlock timber yesterday. Every time I work hemlock, I keep looking around for a horse. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: venice on February 16, 2016, 11:44:57 AM
BT, i was wrong. Bacteria can also cause ring shake. Looked it up and you are right.

Thanks. venice
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 16, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
-10 a day ago 40° today. I did not run the mill in that cold, but today at 40° I was but the cat was at -10. Frost all over it. So I warmed it up. :D

 

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How do like that beenthere, fire 12" away from the sawdust. :D :D :D :D :D :D

The lumber had frost too. The cat started like summer time.
 

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Have to cut some pine Wensday, So I pulled out some logs that might thaw out with the rain we get tonight, Maybe. ;D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 16, 2016, 05:39:34 PM
All in a day cutting wood...no sawring here today...got 5.5-6" of snow last night and then woke up to rain this morning...It's been raining all day, what a mess..can't wait for all that rain to freeze tonight so I can ice skate to the job tomorrow lol  windy here now and the rain is finally letting up.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OlJarhead on February 16, 2016, 06:12:36 PM
lovin this thread!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 16, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
me too this thread is what made me wanna join FF
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 17, 2016, 05:10:54 PM
I hate it when this happens, frozen logs jumping around.

 

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Froze together. :D :D ::) ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: fishfighter on February 17, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
I just don't know how y'all guys up north do it. Way to cold for this southern boy. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 17, 2016, 05:35:12 PM
I am convinced log clamps were invented in winter.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on February 17, 2016, 06:03:58 PM
Nice thermometer, Peter. Logs don't look so bad either :)...I had a girly calender hanging on the wall in the garage...my wife decided the women were not properly dressed, and proceded to draw bikinis on them with a sharpie....
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 17, 2016, 08:27:52 PM
Proceeded to draw bikinis on them with a sharpie....

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D good one.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on February 17, 2016, 08:41:50 PM
Proceeded to draw bikinis on them with a sharpie....

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D good one.
Probably not necessary with a fire extinguisher on either side
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 17, 2016, 09:29:43 PM


Probably not necessary with a fire extinguisher on either side

Don't you think she's HOT? :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 22, 2016, 06:22:30 PM
That time of the year.

 

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Loads of pine and hemlock slabs going to boil sap to make maple syrup.
I keep 20 or so ½cords around.
In the winter the more bark works to hard to chip the slabs up. Frozen slabs are the pits. So I bundle them.

 

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Dry ones,
 

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Green ones, I sell them for $45.00 each.

I did poke the chip pile with the forks, not as bad as I thought the frost would be.

 

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The mud is dring up some too.

 

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Hi C Farm  smiley_wavy  You going to the open house at Wood Mizer in April?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on February 22, 2016, 06:29:04 PM
Looks like a beautiful day in the Northeast,, 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 22, 2016, 06:38:43 PM
Whatcha got under that lean to up top?  Your sawmill and lumber shed look great.  Do you sell the green slab bundles for $45 or the dry ones for that? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on February 22, 2016, 06:58:31 PM
I hope to see my friend Peter at the Chesterville open house April 16.
Saw Ross at the store again today. He was buying shavings.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 22, 2016, 07:07:19 PM
Whatcha got under that lean to up top?  Your sawmill and lumber shed look great.  Do you sell the green slab bundles for $45 or the dry ones for that? 

That [lean to] is going to have a big window to let sun light in the back room. I have to cover it with live edge siding like this.

 

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I sell a lot of things and need to have a display, so I'm making different displays all over the mill shed.

And yes, I get 45 dry or green. That's the trick, to sell all the parts of the log, not just the lumber. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 22, 2016, 07:13:42 PM
Hi C Farm, you got snow up there?
I had to sand some the other day with John by driving and shaking the bucket. I get a so so job that way. :D :D :D :D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on February 22, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
Peter,what's that white stuff??   ;D
Remember this back in '14??

 

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I don't think he could get enough together this year to make a snow banken 2 feet high.
I could drive my car in my field.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 23, 2016, 06:15:33 AM
Last year was the pits. :D :D My drive way is breaking up now. My honey bees are flying all over the place too. 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 24, 2016, 12:15:38 PM
One of those mornings. :D :D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 24, 2016, 12:53:37 PM
A near miss!

Looks like your timestamp is off by a smidge lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on February 24, 2016, 01:21:17 PM
Obviously you need to do a better job heat treating those saw teeth.   :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Deese on February 24, 2016, 01:31:34 PM
Nice! I've never found a quarter in a log before  :D ;D
It's your lucky day!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: lshobie on February 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
ya made 25 cents!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on February 24, 2016, 03:24:20 PM
There are bands made for that very purpose.

I am surprised you cut through it. i would stopped the feed the second I heard the zzziiiiggggg.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on February 24, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
Lag screws are usually pretty mild steel, by the time I hear it, it's already coming out the other side!  :-\
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 24, 2016, 05:13:37 PM
Yea I've sawed clean through a few of them myself.  With them 7° .055" blades you can keep going without much diving I've found you just have to slow down...lots  of times the sawhead will jump and buck if I don't slow down lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: landscraper on February 24, 2016, 05:18:57 PM
ya made 25 cents!

The elusive money tree has at last been located.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on February 24, 2016, 05:20:54 PM
ya made 25 cents!

The elusive money tree has at last been located.

But now it is lumber and no longer lives to reproduce!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 24, 2016, 06:45:03 PM
Lag screws are usually pretty mild steel, by the time I hear it, it's already coming out the other side!  :-\



Just what happens.




Obviously you need to do a better job heat treating those saw teeth.   :D :D



It was a heat treat one, I'll do better next time. :D




ya made 25 cents!


And spent $30.00 on the blade. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 24, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
There are bands made for that very purpose.

I am surprised you cut through it. i would stopped the feed the second I heard the zzziiiiggggg.

If Peter is sawing as fast as I do with the same mill, the saw was out of the log before he even heard the zing. :D My record so far is seven 1/2' lag bolts in one pass with one blade.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on February 24, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
Dave, that would be simply amazing,, a record for certain,,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 24, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
7 lags :o :o wow.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 24, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
Your record, or the record? lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 25, 2016, 07:08:13 AM
I hit one, changed the band, hit another, and decided to just keep going with the second ruined band. Resawing an old timber.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 26, 2016, 07:05:23 PM
 

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I was getting a load of logs today, but it did not come and I was out of 8' 1x12' W Pine for Saturday. So I cut a 16'9" log in ½. I don't like doing that.
Big butt log.

 

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The other ½ I did get a lot of 1x12 and 3 nice 20" wide ones, nice and clear.

 

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I flipped the cant , made a cut and hit a nail  >:( It had 10" or better of wood over it. 16 penney.

 

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If any wants to post pics here go for it, even things you hit with the blade. :D :D :D

 
 

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on February 26, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
Pete
Nice looking pine I like the wide boards . The nail not so much :)
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 26, 2016, 07:29:31 PM
Yeah, some kid puts it in 50 60 years ago. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on February 26, 2016, 07:33:43 PM
Never ceases to amaze me, but somehow it still does...outstanding log, lumber....and well, yes, a nail... >:(
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on February 26, 2016, 07:35:31 PM
Just look at it as a petrified small finishing knot.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on February 26, 2016, 10:18:57 PM
More like a pre nailed board. ;D

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 27, 2016, 06:13:44 PM
Well, the logger came 6000 BF of 8' and 10' W Pine And 3 12s. :D :D 8)

 

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All big wood, Long stuff Sunday and Mon morning, load bans next week. 
Winter cut wood is the best. 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 27, 2016, 06:21:09 PM

Dere ya go.  Have you got enough to make it through mud season?

A guy placed an order with me for a shed he's building in April or May, said that he wants the lumber now because he likes winter cut wood.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tule peak timber on February 27, 2016, 06:33:13 PM
Nice , nice , nice !
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 27, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
4x4 that winter wood is clean and dry of sap, W Pine will last till June easy with no stain or bugs. I have a logger cutting 2 loads of hemlock too, best that I have seen in a long time.
8' 10' 12' 16' and a lot of 20' will come after the bans are off.
The same one that brought the 24' ones.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 27, 2016, 06:46:29 PM
Nice.  Last winter I learned about bleeding out the logs.  I still have sticky boards kicking around lol


I need a 3x14x24' ridge beam, I should be able to saw that on my mill, no?  It was somewhere on here, but have never done it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 27, 2016, 07:24:55 PM

I need a 3x14x24' ridge beam, I should be able to saw that on my mill, no?  It was somewhere on here, but have never done it.



easy, :D :D
 

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pull it back and cut. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 27, 2016, 07:44:04 PM
Hoe did you figure that out Peter?  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: drobertson on February 27, 2016, 09:10:25 PM
gotta be some, a little blood sweet and tears?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 28, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
Hoe did you figure that out Peter?  ;D


4x4 wanted to know. :D :D That's him looking at his new mill with Ross. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on February 28, 2016, 07:55:56 AM
Nice.  Last winter I learned about bleeding out the logs.  I still have sticky boards kicking around lol


I need a 3x14x24' ridge beam, I should be able to saw that on my mill, no?  It was somewhere on here, but have never done it.
You can either back up or rise out of the cut on the first two faces leaving the hump at the end. On the third cut where there is a flat on the bottom, you can slide it forward till the bump hits the back rail (movable rail is slid out of the way for this), and then finish that (third) cut. Same on the 4th face. Now bring the first and second faces up and finish those the same way.

Raising the rollers 1/4" or so makes it easier to do the sliding back thing.  There are other little details you will enjoy discovering on your own.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 28, 2016, 09:09:32 AM
There are other little details you will enjoy discovering on your own.  ;D


 :D :D :D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 28, 2016, 09:12:16 AM
Thanks for the pictures, Pete.  I'm guessing that was at the end of your extensions too, so that musta been real long, eh?
That was a good day, except for towing the mill home through the slush without trailer brakes...I figured it out, a couple weeks later lol the big fuse under the hood of my pickup had blown.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OlJarhead on February 28, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
I won't get 'a day' cutting wood but I hope to get at least a couple hours today....but of course, it's going to rain though that won't stop me!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 28, 2016, 12:48:33 PM
No 4x4 that was on the mill. The ex is in the back of the barn. I only use it when I have to.

More logs today. 8)

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 29, 2016, 12:18:08 PM
More, :D :D

 

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 Some hard maple and Spruce too.



 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OlJarhead on February 29, 2016, 12:31:48 PM
Does your mill ever stop! :D

How long does it take you to mill up a load like that?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 29, 2016, 06:04:08 PM
Does your mill ever stop! :D

How long does it take you to mill up a load like that?

3 hrs ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OlJarhead on February 29, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
hahaha that made me laugh!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: venice on February 29, 2016, 06:24:09 PM
Does your mill ever stop! :D

3 hrs ;)


You dont need that much sleep do you?  ;D

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on February 29, 2016, 06:33:08 PM
Peter...you are killing me with all these beautiful trucks, full of beautiful logs... I have a wanted ad here nearly begging for a pine supply...seems you can't get away from it!!! Lords sake, send a truck or two here!!! Nice setup, logs, and sawing as always, Peter...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 29, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
I've seen how Pete operates, the log truck loads the logs on his sawmill deck and he has it sawed by the time the grapple plucks the next log lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 29, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
I like how he had the pup loaded yesterday btw
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 29, 2016, 10:17:41 PM
Ya, getting calls with the nice days we are getting now, And they just posted the roads today.

bkaimwood, Don't you have loggers over there?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: MikeZ on February 29, 2016, 10:19:52 PM
4 x 4- I just noticed your property list at bottom. Had to chuckle. That doesn't make you feel uneasy knowing your assessor can see all your property for taxation purpose?    :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on February 29, 2016, 11:15:28 PM
4 x 4- I just noticed your property list at bottom. Had to chuckle. That doesn't make you feel uneasy knowing your assessor can see all your property for taxation purpose?    :D


 :D :D :D 
Well ya know, just a little bit..but after the first few sleepless nights I got over it! lol

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: woodworker9 on February 29, 2016, 11:16:39 PM
Peter...you are killing me with all these beautiful trucks, full of beautiful logs... I have a wanted ad here nearly begging for a pine supply...seems you can't get away from it!!! Lords sake, send a truck or two here!!! Nice setup, logs, and sawing as always, Peter...

No kidding.  I'm having the same problem here.  I want to start cutting frame parts for my new shop, and can't find a logger around here to save my life.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 01, 2016, 06:18:50 AM
Peter...you are killing me with all these beautiful trucks, full of beautiful logs... I have a wanted ad here nearly begging for a pine supply...seems you can't get away from it!!! Lords sake, send a truck or two here!!! Nice setup, logs, and sawing as always, Peter...

No kidding.  I'm having the same problem here.  I want to start cutting frame parts for my new shop, and can't find a logger around here to save my life.



If you have a university in your state or a forest department it will have a list of foresters you can call.
Or if you see a logging truck follow it you will find a logger.  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 01, 2016, 09:31:32 AM
It would seem there's no loggers around here...the denser location of them in minimum an hour away, most likely two, and being hauling is of such significant cost, I can't typically get even a returned call...the routes you explained, and most I've found on the forum have been exhausted and run down long ago. The few I have found never seem to have what I need, the rest never follow through or fall off the face of the earth. The largest percentage of my supply comes from tree services, and if works most times, but costs lots more time tracking stuff down, visits, and hauling on my end, all a significant cost in $$$, not to mention the huge efficiency drop of me spending so much time getting them, rather than sawing them. I still have faith one day I'll hook up with the right guy...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on March 01, 2016, 10:17:49 AM
It'll come BK.

I started out doing a a lot of chasing. Now when i get in my truck to go look at logs its either standing trees that the tree service guys are going to be cutting down or decks of logs that the oil field construction guys want gone.

EPA wont let them leave the logs laying and the with the fire reg it is cheaper to for them to pay freight to get them gone before fines start to accumulate.

On the tree service guys I get paid to take the logs as a rule and the oil field stuff the contractor will often pay the freight to get the logs gone. 

Also farmers that have done selective logging on pasture land.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 01, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Loggers in NH have big saws. :D :D

 

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That cut is 2½" thick. :o :o :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 01, 2016, 06:22:43 PM
Yup, that is the way they are felled here.  You can hear a feller winding up for miles. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 01, 2016, 06:53:48 PM
Thanks for words of encouragement bandmillbandit...hope your right...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 01, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
My old boss called the mechanized outfits "Tennis Shoe Loggers" lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on March 02, 2016, 12:22:02 AM
Thanks for words of encouragement bandmillbandit...hope your right...

Hey BK
Your welcome! As long as that mill makes enough of that sawdust (my cocain) to keep you addicted you'll figure away to make more of the stuff for less $$ and keep more $$ in your pocket. AND still have a enough saw dust!

An $800 to $1200 dollar day means you don't need 7 in a row to stay viable when your equipment don't owe you any thing and is many 1000s hours from wore out.


I may be in for some skinnier times but my phone is not ringing less this Spring.

You'll do fine. I am sure


   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2016, 08:49:45 PM
With the nice weather the phone is ringing with orders. 8) 8)
Anyone have a hard time selling 1x4s?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 14, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
I got calls for 3 different portable jobs today, must be the weather.  Cept it did rain all day here..


You gotta whack of 1x4s do ya?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 14, 2016, 10:28:29 PM
I don't like to leave them in the slabs. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on March 15, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
Peter ,
Advertise them as strapping they will sell  :) :)
Jim/Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on March 15, 2016, 06:25:28 PM
Bundle them in packs of 10 or 12
People think they are getting a better deal that way .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 15, 2016, 07:10:28 PM
I'll try that, I do sell some 16'. But the 8' 10' 12' are piling up. All in good shape and under a roof.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on March 15, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
In the fall people use strapping to hold up poly on their porches and carports .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on March 15, 2016, 07:22:58 PM
Mater stakes.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 15, 2016, 08:17:01 PM
Glue or nail em together and sell as 2x4s  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 17, 2016, 06:59:05 AM
1x4's sure not a hot seller here either...I don't even want to stack them anywhere, they take up too much space and will be there FOREVER... Banding and selling for pallets seems like the time spent isn't worth the $$$, or maybe close to a washout. When I end up with things close to 4", I do one of 3 things... Make a sticker and a 1x3, or make a 1x2, and throw them in the batten pile. I saw lots of b and b siding, so I know it will get used or sold then, and you can never have too many stickers it seems.
On another note, I hope it's OK I ask this in this thread, seems relative to some recent posts and comments, and goes to my EWP shortage as discussed, especially now and heading into the real busy season. I may have finally hooked up with a reliable, quality pine source. I have been paying .25 a bf give or take. This fella says he has a good, steady supply, and says the logs are all truly STUNNERS... BIG, Straight, top notch!! His price quote is around .38 a bf. Yup, I know it's high, but given my situation, I think I have to consider it a would appreciate and value your input. I hate to try to haggle with the guy, for obvious reasons... We talk about having to pay the premium to get in the door, get what you need, and so on... I'm thinking I just roll with it, with this plan. Offset second and third logs figuring them at .25 on my end, saw for all my siding and related orders, keeping my same price there...I can't raise that price any more, I'm a hair high now, but selling product OK...then upgrade all first logs to .50, and try to market the higher grade stuff accordingly, to offset my costs...this is simple and common business, sounds like a no brainer, but believe it or not, I have no demand for clear stuff... Everyone wants character knotty pine. I can't afford to cut .35 cents a bf stunners into siding...the other thing is I can move some big slabs, so saw many of them for wide 8/4, live edge slabs, and such...this stuff moves slow, but moves, and when the guy that wants it comes along, it sells easily, just slower. So what do you guys think?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 17, 2016, 07:15:56 AM
Some of the mills around here are paying $400/mbf for slammer pine.  There's a mill in Carthage NY paying $450/mbf for premium pine, I thought that was crazy high...



Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 17, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
Start with what you can get for the lumber, then subtracts the sawing, sticking and profit, And see what's left. That's is price you can pay. In NH for reg stuff like 2x4 and grade #2   W pine I can make 2 to 3 times what I pay for the log. Then the money for the chips and sawdust.
 It's all in the marketing. :D :D :D :D That's what I have to do with the 1x4s
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 17, 2016, 01:50:55 PM
I'm running some number myself while riding out this thundershower...wondering what you figure for sawing and sticking?  Does $200/mbf sound about right?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 17, 2016, 02:47:54 PM
4x4...I figure minimum .25c to saw, .25c to dust boards (which I do, every one) and sticker them...so I figure minimum .50 cents a bf before adding log cost... If I was not old, and working solo most of the time, I could likely reduce that number significantly. Paying a kid or two 10 bucks an hour to do the latter would cut it down. By the way, these numbers factor in acceptable profit for me, and are used only as a guideline. So if I added pine log cost as previously mentioned into that, it'd be .90 a bf, with no profit on the logs...that's the part I'm sorting out.. I'd like to hear what others have to say, for all our benefit...
Pete...your doing good, as you should be, a seasoned veteran IMO...3 and 4 times profit is great...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Remle on March 17, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
Glue or nail em together and sell as 2x4s  ;D
I would have cut them as 2X4 to begin with.. I do not cut anything in 4/4 less than 1X6 and as long as the log will allow. I never cut a 17' log into to, to saw 8' stock unless their is a bad crook to deal with. Sawing as a whole saves time turning each 8'piece individually. I can cut down to length's needed as needed. Since I haven't been able to find a board stretcher it works for me to leave'm long.. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 17, 2016, 07:42:25 PM
The 1x4 are W Pine, All the 1" here is W Pine old school, All 2" and bigger are Hemlock. I don't cut pine into 2by and bigger unless that's what the customer wants. I get some calls from timber framers for W Pine frames.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 17, 2016, 08:37:30 PM
The place is drying out too.

 

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Had a customer brought in some Ash, wants 5"x5" and 1" the junk one will be 2" slabs

 

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And I got a window for the dormer, now I can get it done. 8)

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 17, 2016, 09:52:30 PM
Lookin good Pete!   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on March 18, 2016, 06:59:41 AM
Wow, ash with tight bark, haven't seen that since maybe ever...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 18, 2016, 07:48:10 PM
Dormer looks great!!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 18, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
It will let sunlight in the back room,
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 18, 2016, 08:42:45 PM
Well, I ordered a full load of slammers... Guess we'll see how it works out... Cautiously optimistic...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 18, 2016, 09:27:59 PM
You want logs not slammers. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 19, 2016, 06:32:55 AM
Slammers are nice to have around the mill on a hot day when there's no logs to saw...:)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 19, 2016, 07:07:40 AM
 smiley_beertoast smiley_thumbsup :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 29, 2016, 06:49:00 AM
Did your logs come in bkaimwood?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 29, 2016, 08:20:30 AM
Not yet, Peter... Guy said 2-3 weeks, so I'm hoping to be sawing them within 2 weeks...if I don't hear anything within a week, I will surely be getting nervous. Met with another logger over the weekend... He didn't have a full truck on hand but prolly had a few thousand bf on hand...not slammers, but some decent stuff, with a lower price that reflected it. I'm hoping he'll have something together within a week. I'm now all out of EWP... Just took a small order for some maple, and a large order of white oak...all the maple in in stock, half the oak in stock, the rest easy to get. So plenty to do in the meantime. Sawed some tamarack slabs for a retail store Friday, and the last of my hemlock for a b and b order...had 2 hemlocks left over, about 325bf, so sawed a pile of 1x12x12 and 1x8x12, for inventory... Sold the whole pile yesterday. Things are cookin' for the army of one...I'm pleased. Got 3 portable jobs on the books, and 4 more quotes out.
Was wondering what happened to you lately, Peter? Did you go on vacation?? :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 29, 2016, 06:40:22 PM
No vacation, Just cutting orders. And looking for W Oak and W Cedar :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on March 29, 2016, 07:56:20 PM
Good to hear from you, Peter. I was beginning to get thread withdrawals... I got both, trade you for some slammers???!!! :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 29, 2016, 10:29:16 PM
Shoot I'll trade you pine slammers for some w oak and w cedar!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on March 29, 2016, 10:41:52 PM
PA is a long way away. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on March 29, 2016, 10:42:46 PM
Can't get there from here
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 04, 2016, 04:36:46 PM
This is getting old.

 

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16° and snow. :snowball:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YellowHammer on April 04, 2016, 04:58:18 PM

This is getting old
16° and snow. :snowball:
:o
I would think so!  Come on down south, we're 70° And sunny!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: elk42 on April 04, 2016, 05:02:25 PM
I sure wish we could get some of that white stuff about august. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 04, 2016, 05:24:08 PM
Pete
Got 4 inches at my place and still snowing some .
Didn't need this :(
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 04, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
So far no white stuff up here in Maine. Note the so far part.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 04, 2016, 07:43:52 PM
I'll send you some cfarm. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 04, 2016, 07:53:44 PM
Don't want Ross to have to move it. Remember this back in 2014??

 

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This was for the WM openhouse the same time as this year.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 04, 2016, 08:01:04 PM
Yes, that's right.  :D :D I'll know in a couple of days if Ann and I are going this year.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on April 04, 2016, 08:35:06 PM
Glaciation in the North can be taxing. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on April 04, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
Peter....it's been a long time since I've seen pics of big pine logs and sawn lumber... I am growing concerned for your well being, and my own...if you need to talk to someone, I'm here...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 04, 2016, 08:38:50 PM
We still wanna see a video  electricuted-smiley !!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 04, 2016, 08:44:28 PM
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 04, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
I was on a job a few months ago down south, and there was a guy flying a drone around taking pictures and stuff.  I made a few quick clips here's the video. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nryTV6GjD8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nryTV6GjD8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on April 05, 2016, 06:59:19 AM
Now, that  :o  is a whack of firewood!   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 05, 2016, 07:04:26 AM
We still wanna see a video  electricuted-smiley !!


Yeah, I have been thinking about that.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 05, 2016, 07:51:41 AM
Glaciation in the North can be taxing.

10° this morning here with about 8" of snow. Then it's going up to the 60's and rain. I'll be cutting joints in the garage. It's 60° and no rain in there. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 05, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
I'm in the shop with the heat on .
Better days are coming :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 05, 2016, 01:27:20 PM
Not a big fan of working under the dripping eaves anymore :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on April 05, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
Aw come on now,dripping cold rain down the back of your neck,down on your knees in the mud,repairing a rotten sill,gloves are soaking wet,and only 4 more hours to go........sucks!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 05, 2016, 01:57:26 PM
47
That's what I would be doing but under a deck 3 ft off the ground . :):)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 05, 2016, 02:07:40 PM
The one good thing is the eave water makes your hair so soft :):)
What I got left of it any way :) 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on April 05, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
We still wanna see a video  electricuted-smiley !!
I think the dude with the flashing head just gave me a seizure...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 05, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
lol

I could never type as good as you during a seizure!  Everything came out perfectly...

Sheesh ya didn't have to look at it!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 06, 2016, 06:31:40 AM
The snow will go fast, One day and mud. :D :D

 

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I use cull lumber to make and fix pallets to put lumber on.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 07, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
This stoped the mill.

 

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Small but very hard steel.

Rain today,
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: barbender on April 08, 2016, 01:35:45 AM
     Dang tree step? I hate those things >:(
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on April 08, 2016, 05:40:01 AM
Oh no!!!  :( Hope it was a blade that had been resharpened a few times.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 08, 2016, 06:28:11 AM
One I heat treated. :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on April 08, 2016, 06:53:23 AM
One I heat treated. :D

Guess it wasnt heat treated enough...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on April 08, 2016, 07:14:42 AM
Ouch!   :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 08, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
Today, some of the hard to find W Oak came in. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

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All 16'  Have an order for some 6x10x16.  2010BF on the load with trucking $1000.00 to put that in the yard.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on April 08, 2016, 06:18:40 PM
Nice score on the white oak :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on April 08, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
Decent to nice oak at an economy price...good deal Peter... I paid just about that yesterday for barely the equal quality in EWP...but I finally have 5k bf on hand...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 08, 2016, 10:53:36 PM
Nice logs Pete.  And I see he already scaled them too.  Was he close to what you scaled or didn't ya scale em?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 09, 2016, 06:49:33 AM
He did, And is right on the money with the BF. He's a new guy I found. He buys a lot of hardwood from the loggers. And sells it to anyone with the money.  :D :D :D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 09, 2016, 09:29:56 AM
Ah I see so it's from a broker?  Then did you have to hire trucker or does he take care of that?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 09, 2016, 09:15:45 PM
 Trucking on me.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: chrissheerman on April 11, 2016, 09:33:53 AM
I didn't know people had such good operations going in NH i'm over in unity just starting sawing lumber for myself with a used mighty mite I bought. So far I like it haven't had time yet this year me and my father just have to much going on. Im trying to help him get his old house sold i'm trying to get permits to build my house and my mother past away last week so all ive done is start the engine and use the hydraulics on the head to see if everything is working okay this year. looking at the photos of that wood-mizer you have are making me drool though. Really happy to see other people in NH like making saw dust as much as me. Hope you all have a great summer.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 12, 2016, 06:44:43 AM
Too bad about your mom. I know how you feel. My brother Mark past last week too.
There's a lot of mills in NH. 3 others in my town all Wood Mizers but, I'm the only one selling lumber. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 12, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
Had some friends with me for lunch today.

 

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After I had lunch my drive belt fell apart. Had an old one and put that in.

 

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Have to take the brake band off to get the belt out.

 

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I back off the belt adjustment thing.

And grease the thing too.

 

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I put some never seas on the shaft with the old/ new belt  :D
Put it all together and in the first cut on some W Oak the belt rips in half. ::)

 

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I have 2 new one coming.
Do all think I can run without a third of the belt. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 12, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
Holy cow what a mess...well at least you had a good lunch.  Looks like there was enough friends there to have lunch for a year or two
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 12, 2016, 09:42:22 PM
 popcorn_smiley
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on April 12, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
popcorn_smiley

Got any to share?  I'm all out..some clown uninstalled all my popcorn
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on April 13, 2016, 07:50:51 AM
That's called ''practice''.

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on April 14, 2016, 08:25:19 PM
New belt on, Had to move the drive pulley out some. When I put in the new motor mount I could see it was out a little.

 

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I use an old blade for the line up. 100% now.  ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 11, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
Well, The rain stopped and the sun is out. The loggers are at it, Got a load of Hemlock in with some W Oak.  8)

 

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Think the pith is off some. :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on May 11, 2016, 08:17:46 PM
No leaners there, Peter....honest, not growing on a Hillside...you need a few challenging logs here and there, to keep you sharp and thinking!!! Just got my 3rd load of EWP today...only 6 logs...scaled to 1600 ft, 12 footers...
Almost a month since an update, Peter?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 11, 2016, 08:57:55 PM
Pine Man,

You are in trailer deck city  ;D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 11, 2016, 09:05:08 PM
How do you deduct for pith off center?  drop a grade?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 11, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
His pith has always been off center  :D :D :D.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 12, 2016, 06:21:58 AM
How do you deduct for pith off center?  drop a grade?


I don't, Just try to get what I can. It will make a good 6x6. I only deduct for rot, sweep and shake. A lot of times I will buy the [not the best logs in the load]. That keeps the logger happy. Without them, I have no sawmill business. But it all works out when you buy all the logs I do. Have a truck coming today too, and 3 next week maybe. :D :D :D




His pith has always been off center  :D :D :D.


I've been told that before.  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 12, 2016, 07:05:58 AM
It's good to see you "up and at it" Peter.  Good call on your loggers.   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 12, 2016, 07:01:45 PM
Well, today while I was flying cutting 20' 2x6s I miss the mark or hit it.  :D :D :D :D :D

 

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 Then I tried to back up. :D :D

 

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Maybe I can reset the blade.    smiley_biggrin01
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 12, 2016, 07:04:30 PM
I think Woodmizer offers a sawing class.  :D

Peter, I think we've all done it, at least twice.  ::)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Josh3760 on May 12, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
Man I feel way better now. Even the pros do it.. ;D 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: YellowHammer on May 12, 2016, 10:36:17 PM
Yep, probably want to check the set on that band....
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 12, 2016, 10:47:10 PM
Ta heck with da band.  I am teary eyed over the scratches on the side support.   :o
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: OlJarhead on May 12, 2016, 11:05:34 PM
Ok I have to admit I showed this to my wife and said "see honey, even the pros do it now and then!" and she said "ya, but that doesn't mean you can!"

 :snowball:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 13, 2016, 06:55:05 AM
I see you have the high proformance guide thingys, do you like em? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 13, 2016, 06:53:04 PM
Yes 4x4 I would not cut very fast without them.   ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 13, 2016, 06:56:25 PM
Really...Are they a pain to adjust?  What do you have for a distance between guides with them?  I have 28" when fully open.  I have the mount for them
but not them
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on May 13, 2016, 07:35:41 PM
I would not be willing to loose any distance between my blade guides.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 13, 2016, 07:36:31 PM
They don't give ya much to begin with
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on May 13, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
4x4.

I never thought that you had much distance between your blade guides.................. ;D.

Not trying to insult you, just having a little fun. 

It was sure nice to meet you.  Thanks for the help with the off-bearing at the Project.   
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 13, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
4x4 I cut 30"+ logs and have no trouble. Most of my logs are 12" to 25, 27" most times.
My market is 1" and 2" lumber with 12"x12" and smaller beams mix in.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 13, 2016, 09:59:03 PM
I would not be willing to loose any distance between my blade guides.

Me neither!

When I got my mill it had the HP blade guide rollers on it, and it didn't take very long for me to take them off and install the standard blade guide rollers.

On my mill, the HP's limited the clearance side-to-side and also when sawing a 1" dog board.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 13, 2016, 10:37:45 PM
Can't saw a 1" dog board with the hp guides?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2016, 06:30:13 AM
I can.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on May 14, 2016, 06:55:09 AM
I did too, but I had to move the (movable) blade guide roller out and around the clamp!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 14, 2016, 07:12:32 AM
Oh, yea I have to do that with my
current setup too.  I think since I have the HP guide without them actually mounted, I get all the drawbacks of them without any benefits!  lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on May 14, 2016, 10:33:34 AM
I ran an LT40 super with the HP guides. I was not impressed so didn't swap my roller guides out.   I did remove the bottom slide blocks and have been very happy with out them installed.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Andries on May 14, 2016, 10:40:45 AM
4x4 I cut 30"+ logs and have no trouble. Most of my logs are 12" to 25, 27" most times.
No HP guides for me.
The builders that I mill for are looking for the biggest width possible, from their Western Red Cedars.
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Bibby-ing them down to bite size is step one.
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Rolling them over using a Mega-Hook with chain and the loader forks
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The big gulp! Less than an inch at the top of the throat, with off-centre pith. Forty one feet long.
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Andries on May 14, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
I'd have to change mills to get a bigger cut than this:
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Like 4x4 said, there's only 28" between the rollers guides.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on May 31, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
Somewhere on one of the many threads on FF I had said my mill wasn't cutting good.  In fact I believe a beaver or a butter knife could've done a better job lol 



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WM service tech even had stopped out (on his own time because he was in the area, can't beat that!  He left my mill around 9pm, now that's better support than Victoria's Secret can offer).  Marty P was the one who gave the winning advice by telling me to lower the rpms.  I just wanted to show you how bad it was cutting with everything we could think of checked (known good blade, alignment good, belt tensioned, band tensioned, new B57s, new up/down headrig brake, etc etc...nothing fixed it)




This was hard maple.  I lowered my rpms and had immediately better results.  I had to play around with them more today as I had the rpms sawing pine good last week with Kasco 7/35 blades and then I made some 4/35 blades for sawing the maple and I had to play around with the rpms a bit more til I got it to cut good (made it even slower).  I think it's gonna be alot more gooder if I get a tach on my saw so I can easilier manipulate it. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 01, 2016, 06:23:06 AM
I would think you would get the rpms set and not have to play with it all the time.
Can't you call WM and ask what to set the rpms at?
Too bad you have to go through this.
 Back in the day Wood Mizer would cut logs at the plant to be sure the mill worked right then send them out. Now they put them together and send them out and guys like Mr Parson has to fix them.
When I got mine in 08 I had to go over the whole mill and fix a lot of things. Simple things like the radeator clamp leaks. Fuse box burnd out, put in the new stile fuses, free from WM. And a full alinment. It was good I had been with them a long time, 3 mill.

Don't get me wrong, I like my mill and think there the best, Just would like WM to go back to testing them like they use too.

For what you payed for the thing It should have cut right the first time out of the box.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on June 01, 2016, 07:48:12 AM
I would think you would get the rpms set and not have to play with it all the time.
Can't you call WM and ask what to set the rpms at?

When I changed out my engine a couple of years ago, and reading the manual, Manual states check RPM every 200 hours!

Don't know why it changes, but it does, even with lock nuts on the throttle linkage!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: pineywoods on June 01, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
That throttle cable, doesn't really go to the actual throttle. It pulls a spring which pulls opens the governor. The tension on that spring is what determines your engine rpm. Spring tension will change with temperature. On most engines there will be an adjustment for maximum rpm, you normally don't need  to mess with that..
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 01, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
The diesels are not the same as the gas ones. Chuck.


Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 01, 2016, 08:20:37 PM
Customers logs, The hump. :D :D ::)

 

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You would think a man can see the hump when he cut the tree down.  :D :D ::)




I had a guy from a big Pine mill stop by to see my setup today. We had a good talk about what A&P sawmill can do for him.
I can't tell how surprise I am to see him here. If this works out  dancing-jack
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 01, 2016, 10:10:10 PM
You said it yourself, some guys just can't buck a straight log, and others, you buy their logs and they're all perfect, bucked straight, trim is all the same and what was specified, etc.


That's great to hear about the big pine mill!  I hope that log wasn't on the saw when he came!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 02, 2016, 05:47:31 AM
  I hope that log wasn't on the saw when he came!



No , He came at lunchtime, no logs on the mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 02, 2016, 09:59:04 AM
What does he want you to do for them? Inquiring minds want to know, unless it's a trade secret.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 02, 2016, 04:17:44 PM
He is looking for a Pine man. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 02, 2016, 09:19:39 PM
Cutting Pine today, Last one was 12"x14"x 25'

 

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My new sign.

 

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What do you think?


What does he want you to do for them? Inquiring minds want to know, unless it's a trade secret.

Jim Rogers

Long lumber and live edge siding.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 02, 2016, 09:36:40 PM
Ahhh so that's how you do them long uns!  Thanks for all the pictures, makes it look easier than it prolly is..


That sign looks great.  It made me want to buy lumber from you, that finger, (I would do the italien kiss my fingers and then open them to symbolize perfection, but there isn't a smiley that does that, yet....AHEM... ;D )
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Czech_Made on June 03, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
Quite the operation, looking good. smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on June 03, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Nice signage:)
Is business still good ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 03, 2016, 06:59:53 PM
Quite the operation, looking good. smiley_thumbsup


Thanks.



Ahhh so that's how you do them long uns! 


Ya it is easy, But A pane. I have a 24' ex and do use it a lot, But, lately it's been 24' wood and I don't need 24' ex all the time.
The 24'ex takes up a lot of room so I only hook it up when I need it. I talked to Ross and I think I'm going up and get a 6' ex to leave on the mill all the time. And maybe a resaw too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 03, 2016, 07:13:10 PM
Nice signage:)
Is business still good ?



Thanks, I had a call today looking for 1x12x16 pine for form boards. Guy said he called all over and no one has any, [ All sold out] I guess. He bought all I had and, ordered 60 more.

Business Is steady .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 03, 2016, 07:15:16 PM
Ahh resaw eh?  The resaw sounds like could be a lot of lumber handling..U don't need power for that?  I guess running a generator for that wouldn't be too bad eh?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 03, 2016, 08:21:21 PM
Nice, professional signage, Pine Man. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 03, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Nice, professional signage, Pine Man. 


Glad you like it, I did it that way so I can move it in the winter. The town plow might hit it if I leave it near the road.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 05, 2016, 06:41:44 AM
All looks good Peter. Signs are important to bring in customers. And signs that can be read at 50mph too.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: crowhill on June 05, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
And thanks for flying the flag!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 05, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
And thanks for flying the flag!



I put that up every morning.  8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 08, 2016, 09:09:24 PM
New Mill.  8) 8) 8)



 

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2 extra blades.

 

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And at a good price, an old man had it, died and the boy has no use for it. :D :D
But I do have to get a power plant for it. 

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 08, 2016, 09:12:41 PM

But I do have to get a power plant for it.

See Jeff.   :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 08, 2016, 09:20:37 PM
Someone going into the shingle business???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 08, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
Looks to be in very nice condition. Good score. A friend of mine bought a Chase recently. Complete with extra "sprockets" for different length and thickness shingles, and it even had the bundling machine to go with it.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 08, 2016, 09:37:29 PM
Dave, that's a good thing when you have all the parts.

Do you know what he gave for it? This one was 1,500.00 and it is in good shape.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 08, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
Nice, Peter!  Can you use the pto on your tractor to power it?  One less thing to maintain.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 09, 2016, 08:09:23 AM
It was a package deal, but I would say about $5,000 or $5,500.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on June 09, 2016, 04:20:20 PM
Pine Man will soon have the shingles. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 09, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
Is it a shingle mill? I didn't see anywhere that he mentioned that. Or any writing on the framework that said shingle mill.

Maybe I missed it.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 09, 2016, 05:55:57 PM
Yes, it's a shingle mill.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on June 09, 2016, 06:31:28 PM
Pine mans going to need some cedar logs :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 09, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
Pine mans going to need some cedar logs :)



I'm working on some cedar from VT. But not for shingle making.
 I get timber framers redoing old houses and the house has W Pine siding on them.
 I want to sell them the siding too.
Has anyone heard of W Oak shingles?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on June 10, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
Peter
When i built my house i got white cedar from southern VT .
In some old carpentry books i have they talk about white oak as shingles .
I think they would look good .
Have installed a lot of white cedar shingles over the years .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 10, 2016, 06:12:26 PM
Yeah Bruno, I want to get the cedar to make 2bys with. For outside pergolas and trellises.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on June 10, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Peter,
 I notice that you indicated that you put your flag up every morning.
This means you take it down at dusk.
Kudos to you.
We observe proper flag Etiquette both here and at our Florida house.
Too many folks just put their flag up and  forget it.

Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 10, 2016, 09:59:34 PM
I was under the impression that you could leave the flag up if you kept a light on it throughout the night, no?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on June 11, 2016, 09:42:25 AM
I was under the impression that you could leave the flag up if you kept a light on it throughout the night, no?

Yes.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: goose63 on June 11, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Peter,
 I notice that you indicated that you put your flag up every morning.
This means you take it down at dusk.
Kudos to you.
We observe proper flag Etiquette both here and at our Florida house.
Too many folks just put their flag up and  forget it.

I jumped a guy abought one  time and his answer was a good one that Flag ain't been scared of any thing for 200 years what makes you think it's scared of the dark but mine still has a light on it at night
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: hopm on June 11, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
I have a problem with our coaches across the district who want to put up the flag at the start of the season and take it down at the end. I have quit badgering them.....I let them talk to the Marine who complains. They generally gain a new respect.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 11, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
Here is a good video about the flag and how the national anthem was written, definitely worth watching. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxGNQE5ZLA
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: tnaz on June 11, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
Thanks for that 4x4.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 12, 2016, 12:43:58 PM
Going to look a power plant for the shingle mill in VT. 47horse with a hand clutch and pulley on it, Set on a skid. 8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: cutterboy on June 12, 2016, 06:56:55 PM
Thanks 4x4
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 12, 2016, 07:14:46 PM
For sure, for sure...


Pete did ya pick up that powerplant?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 12, 2016, 07:28:32 PM
Well my day of cutting wood didn't go so well today! (Picture in the transfer process)

I have a broken push rod on the intake valve on the loader side cylinder of my CH745S Kohler.

I have  done all the checking I can at this point and have found no other damage. the broken piece (about 1.5") is laying on the bottom of the crank case. I need to grab a smaller diameter magnet to get it out.

Compression on both cylinders still well within spec.

Has any one had this issue with an EFI engine. I did have the same issue with a 25 HP carbed engine in the early 80s only both pieces of the push rod were still in the head.     
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 13, 2016, 06:48:01 AM
Sad to hear that Bandit, I wish you luck with that fix.


4x4 I'm going Tuesday morning to look at it. Then Friday I'm going to see Ross to get a 6' ex, Blades, parts, a bunch of stuff. Ann was sick this spring and we did not go to the open house. [To get the stuff, then]
Next week I think I'm going to meet Jeremy from WM, NY. To get a resaw. He's going to Maine to see a customer. Ross doesn't have one.
Will see how it goes. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on June 14, 2016, 04:07:31 PM
Our flag here is lit, in Florida it is lit but my wife takes it in at night anyway.
She can spot a tattered flag from very far away.
Drives her nuts.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 14, 2016, 06:58:54 PM

She can spot a tattered flag from very far away.
Drives her nuts.


Me too.


I got the siding on, just have to put in the window in.

 

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Too much sun, Hot on the roof today. So I went for a ride on the bike my brother gave me.

 

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Fast for a 1200



Had a customer wanted to trade for lumber. I said OK  :D :D

 

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Pics not too good, will get better ones.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on June 14, 2016, 07:30:22 PM
Peter
Like the bike sold my Harley to build my house . Miss it  .
The siding looks nice on the dormer .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 14, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
Better pics.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 14, 2016, 11:53:54 PM
Total cost of the repair was $16.79 for that push rod. As per Kohler service rep it is not an uncommon issue.

Fishing the busted piece out of the crank case was the most time consuming. the rest of it was about a 20 minute re-assembly task.

Now for the completion of that day of cutting wood.


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1156 BF 1"x6"x10' in 3 hours by my self. Not counting clean up. Straight up sawing and moving 2 fork loads of trash to fire wood bucking rack.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 15, 2016, 05:57:39 AM
domer siding looks good. Like the trade you made.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 15, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
Bandit, You did a full day's work there, Good job. 8) 8)




Thanks cfarm, Going to be up by you Fryday at Ross to get some stuff.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on June 15, 2016, 06:09:21 AM
I'm a working 7:30-6 that day. Enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 15, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
Bandit, You did a full day's work there, Good job. 8) 8)

Thanks Peter
With the way am I set up for this site and the board return and logs that were as  consistent as main line 16" ish power poles it was pretty easy to get there. I didnt really have to even pick up the boards. Just a bit of a lift as the pick box was filling to get one end up and slide them in.

Even the trash wood was an easy move. Slide the Heavy down on to the forks and toss the light end over. Nothing is more than 3 feet to move.

Nice tight set up
 

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Not the best pic but that is the bucking rack. I can dump the forks right into it. MOST of the time. A few minor mods in order for it are in the works.


 
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The saw dust is about 2 feet deep (about a tote and a half + worth) and I had a neighbor of the customers stop by and ask for the saw dust yesterday. They are coming today to clean it up and paying me to do it. $75 for a full tote.


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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on June 15, 2016, 09:10:26 AM
BB, I like your setup in the first pic.

Really makes it nice!   8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 15, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
Thank you Chuck and to the forum in general. Much of what I do and how I do it has been and continues to be directly influenced by the good people of this forum.

I have no idea how many years of combined experience there are here but I know I could never live long enough to gain all that experience on my own.

A very heart felt THANKYOU to ALL of you AND to Jeff for making this site availble.
 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 15, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
BB- great job there.

How did you work out that deal where they pay you for the customer's sawdust? 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: grouch on June 15, 2016, 04:06:08 PM
Nooooooooooooo! I've reached the end of the thread.

Peter: Do you put anything on that live edge siding to preserve it?

I like the owl and the bears.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 15, 2016, 04:48:07 PM
BB- great job there.

How did you work out that deal where they pay you for the customer's sawdust?

Customer said what ever you can get is yours and they offered that price. I didn't even ask for it. I was about to say to them to go ahead and come clean it up and they could have it but they offered about half of what they were paying to get it delivered so I am not gona argue.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 15, 2016, 06:20:21 PM
Can't beat that, good tip it was
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 15, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Good set up you have Bandit.

grouch, No, I think I'll let it weather till I get to the silver color I want then spray it with a clear sealer. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 16, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
No room when I get log trucks in and unload, Then have customers in too.
I'm waiting for someone to run into the logs and sue me. :D :D :D

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 17, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
Ride to Maine today, nice ride,  Came home with a truck load of stuff. Went to set up the bx6'. But I had some fixing to do first.
Pulled the mill to the barn with the welder. Fix the fangs on the clamp.

 

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The covers on the mill will vibrate and wear.
 

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Not as nice a job 4x4 would do. :D :D

Use my WM paint and good to go.
 

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Power wash the radiator.

 

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Tomorrow I will set the mill back up with the 6'bx.
 

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The saw is level, going to have to go up.

I wonder why WM calls, it is a 6 ' extension?
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on June 17, 2016, 10:50:50 PM
Looks good, Peter.  I tell ya, you have some great ideas, I think I will try the fangs on my mill.  And yea, looks like they shorted you about a foot!


And wadaya mean, not as nice? I never paint it with WM orange, so you have me beat right there...remember, a grinder and paint will make a welder what he ain't lol
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on June 17, 2016, 11:59:18 PM
Looks good, Peter.  I tell ya, you have some great ideas, I think I will try the fangs on my mill.  And yea, looks like they shorted you about a foot!


And wadaya mean, not as nice? I never paint it with WM orange, so you have me beat right there...remember, a grinder and paint will make a welder what he ain't lol

So I guess my 25 inch extension is only 2 feet short of being a 6 foot extension by those numbers.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on June 18, 2016, 09:07:06 AM
maybe 3'? or 2' 11''?

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 18, 2016, 09:28:30 PM
Watch out for the fangs, 4x4 If you go down with the clamp before you back the thing up , You will rip the corner off the cant.  :D :D :D
 The fangs will pull a cant down to the bed, if it comes up a little, If you're good. ;D

Got the bx all lined up, I use a string on the blocks so when the cant is up to them they all hit .

 

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I was having trouble with mill drift, After a week of milling and banging logs on and up against the mill. I would have to pull the thing back in place.  :D :D
But, I hope I fixed that today. I bolted the Bx down, then put some steel up to the legs of the mill. So will see. ;D

 

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Fine tune tomorrow, Monday will be the test with 8x8 timbers. :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 18, 2016, 09:34:15 PM
Now you have to change your signature to can saw 50'. :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 18, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Now you have to change your signature to can saw 50'. :)


You know, I did not think of that, Now I can cut to 50'. So now I have to make a mill shed with a 60' door. :D :D :D :D :D :D


You know I did measure from stop to stop without the seat, 27'
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 19, 2016, 12:23:25 AM
Well, you had me concerned so I went out and measured my 6' BX and mine is almost 6'.

I don't know if they shorted you or if they are now selling a 5' model.

 

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Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Lakehouse2012 on June 19, 2016, 12:45:05 AM
LOL - im glad i am not the only one staying up till the wee hours of the morning to read theses novels called forums posts.....  ;D
Nooooooooooooo! I've reached the end of the thread.

Peter: Do you put anything on that live edge siding to preserve it?

I like the owl and the bears.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 19, 2016, 07:12:45 AM
Jim I did not count the part past the black line.
I was measuring how much cut I get. I think WM counts the last 10" of the mill that's not used when the bx is not on. 
You can see you only can use 5' 3" of yours.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 19, 2016, 09:03:30 AM
Jim I did not count the part past the black line.
I was measuring how much cut I get. I think WM counts the last 10" of the mill that's not used when the bx is not on. 
You can see you only can use 5' 3" of yours.

Yes, I agree, but you need to add back the length of the mill that you now can use past the end where it normally stops without the bed extension.
With that you gain it back.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on June 19, 2016, 10:17:17 AM
I don't mind my mill sliding a little. I'm afraid if I bolt it down and it cant move.....something else has got to give.
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o $$$$$$
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on June 19, 2016, 10:25:13 AM
Jim I did not count the part past the black line.
I was measuring how much cut I get. I think WM counts the last 10" of the mill that's not used when the bx is not on. 
You can see you only can use 5' 3" of yours.

Yes, I agree, but you need to add back the length of the mill that you now can use past the end where it normally stops without the bed extension.
With that you gain it back.

Jim Rogers

Jim has it. The exact length of the extension is the exact amount of additional cut you get.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 21, 2016, 06:27:22 AM
More wood,  :D :D
I find that scaling log, then putting them away, helping customers, answering the pH making deals, cleaning up the mess, I have no time to make lumber.  :D :D
But I do all the sawing now what? Do I give up my saw to someone else. :D :D :D

No way, the ph will ring. :D :D
I did cut some NH Butternut the other day and get some nice Pine and hemlock.  8)

 

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8000 BF of W Pine.
 

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Some hemlock.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thecfarm on July 21, 2016, 06:32:51 AM
You guys from away sure do have some funny looking rigs to haul your wood.  ;D
The hemlock and pine looks like what I grow here.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 21, 2016, 07:59:19 AM
Nice butternut :)
I like making things with it .
It works nicely and makes great wood working projects .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on July 21, 2016, 08:04:07 PM
Note that the inner bark of fresh butternut is yellow, just like in black walnut. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 21, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
WDH
Walnut and butternut seam a lot a like when I mill them in the shop .
The street I grew up on had a lot of big butternut trees but they all ended up dying .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on July 22, 2016, 06:57:03 AM
I wonder if butternut will give me walnut burn like black walnut does? I never checked to see if it contains the Junglone toxin? I have some butternut goobers lying around to slab if ever get caught up...
Good to see you're staying busy Peter... some nice logs there!!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on July 22, 2016, 08:14:24 PM
I have heard that all of the "nut" trees warrant CAUTION!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: bkaimwood on July 22, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Thanks for the head up, Chuck...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 22, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
I got in a lot of trouble with butternuts a sling shot and the trains behind my house growing up .
Maybe even a kid or two over the railroad bank on the street below .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on July 23, 2016, 07:22:08 AM
 :D :D :D  I can only imagine Bruno...I wonder if you ever planted any butternuts unknowingly...
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 20, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
 

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An idea ;D
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: woodyone.john on September 20, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
Peter,I see that you are reclaiming your thread. Good pics.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on September 20, 2016, 09:16:12 PM
Nice setup you have there. 


I like the pantograph styled exhaust idea, keep us posted!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 21, 2016, 06:46:35 AM
Nice setup you have there. 


I like the pantograph styled exhaust idea, keep us posted!



Going to run the exhaust outside. ;D

When I went to the VT Fair they had a shingle mill there. And with talking to a man, he said I need a 45 to 55 Horse engine to run the shingle mill.
I have 3 more Fairs to go to. I will talk to more guys with a mill there.

Nice talking with you the other night 4x4.
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on September 22, 2016, 05:37:19 AM
Oops did I spill the beans?  lol good talking to you too Peter..I was thinking, how hot is that plastic pipe rated for?  Because diesels have much hotter EGT's (exhaust gas temperature) than gas engines do.  My diesel pickup would idle down to maybe 3-400 degrees, but when put under a load, would get up as high as 1200°F or so.  That 6BT could run all day at 1300 I believe, but 1350° would start melting pistons haha
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 22, 2016, 06:32:59 AM
4x4 the hose is for exhaust, Well the guy at the parts store said it's ok.
We will see . :D :D :D :D


Thanks for the call ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 22, 2016, 08:10:51 AM
Tell that guy be needs to sharpen his blade. I've seen them run easily with a Farmall H. A friend of mine just brought his Chase home last week. He's going to run it off of a line shaft.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 27, 2016, 09:16:55 PM
A little wood came in, Hemlock.
 

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Had to find a new spot to put the logs in a pile.
 

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5600 BF
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on September 28, 2016, 08:16:25 AM
That looks like quite a few small ones in there. What do you do with them? Lumber or do you make some cants out of them?

I get logs that are small sometimes but never as straight as those look. We make 3x4 cants and side into 4/4 so we hope for a log to make at least a 6x8 or it usually goes into the firewood pile. The only thing that is surely good about smaller logs is they are cheap on the scale.

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Sixacresand on September 28, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
That's a nice load, Peter D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 28, 2016, 08:56:04 PM
paul case,  The log size is from 10" to 22". Most 12", all 8'
My market is retail only. I sell a lot of 2x4, 4x4 2x6,2x8.6x6,8x8 And more all 8'
So I have a logger will save the 8s and 10', most go in the chipper. Big mills don't want  8'logs Pine or hemlock.

I just feed into the log pile and cut the logs in a way that will give me the most . Some logs are good for 2x4s some for 6x6 and so on.
Small logs are more work. I use the Ind scale in NH And gave .25 a BF for them. $1455 load.



Sixacresand, Thanks.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 28, 2016, 08:59:16 PM
Peter, do you have a Chase shingle bundler?

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on September 28, 2016, 08:59:47 PM
Pine Man,

Nice hemlock  ;D. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 28, 2016, 09:09:18 PM
Peter, do you have a Chase shingle bundler?

 

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NOOOOO    :o  Dose it work?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on September 28, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
How does it work?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 28, 2016, 09:23:37 PM
The board ends are adjustable to give up to six inches of variation in length. You put a one inch square piece of pine on the bottom between the"tuning forks". This piece has a piece of steel strapping on either end. Alternate layers of shingles, butt end out. Put another one inch square on top, then move the lever. This compresses the bundle allowing you to tack the pieces of strapping to the top piece of pine. I think it originally would have used wire around the bundle.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 28, 2016, 09:28:15 PM
So is that a display in your house?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on September 28, 2016, 09:32:01 PM
The board ends are adjustable to give up to six inches of variation in length. You put a one inch square piece of pine on the bottom between the"tuning forks". This piece has a piece of steel strapping on either end. Alternate layers of shingles, butt end out. Put another one inch square on top, then move the lever. This compresses the bundle allowing you to tack the pieces of strapping to the top piece of pine. I think it originally would have used wire around the bundle.


Thanks for typing that out.  Gotta love old technology
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 28, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
So is that a display in your house?

No, it's in my friend's barn. The mill is going in next to it soon.

Going in the narrow bay downstairs. Old pic, there's concrete in there now. It will be run off of a line shaft.

 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on September 28, 2016, 10:27:58 PM
Peter,
Thank you for the explanation. We have to do a little different with most of small hardwood logs here. The middles of them don't make good enough lumber for framing or flooring so a lot of them get sawed into pallet stringers.

I really like to keep my logs coming in above 12'' as that is the bare minimum to make a 7x9 tie.
PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
Went to the Fair sat. And look a mill just like mine. 8)

 

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Dave, I could not talk the guy into selling this. :D :D
 

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But he had a bunch of info for me and was a big help. Even gave me a ph# to have the blade set and sharpened just 10 miles away. 8) 8)
He was from Mass and was getting calls for shingles.
I know now I need 50 horses to run the thing, I'm on the look out. :D :D :D :D :D




I thought this was cool.
 

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Ross was there running a 50
When I was at the WM tent Ross hit some steel in the log . He said he cut a bunch of logs with no Iron, I show up and he has nailes up the gazoo. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on October 02, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
Looks like a good day  8)


And you were Ross's good luck charm  :D :D


Are you able to get cedar up your way for shingles?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on October 02, 2016, 10:43:36 AM
Peter
Could you make one of the shingle bundlers ?
If you can't find one to buy .
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2016, 12:36:09 PM
Peter
Could you make one of the shingle bundlers ?
If you can't find one to buy .
Bruno


Yes.





 


Are you able to get cedar up your way for shingles?


Not looking to cut cedar. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on October 02, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
Peter
Are you going to make pine shingles ?
Or maybe white oak ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 02, 2016, 08:31:38 PM
Mostly to be able to make shingles out of whatever the customer wants.
Just one more thing A&P Sawmill can help you with.

Think about it, With a sawmill and a shingle mill I guy can cut out a complete water tight building easily.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on October 02, 2016, 09:51:16 PM
Mostly to be able to make shingles out of whatever the customer wants.
Just one more thing A&P Sawmill can help you with.

Think about it, With a sawmill and a shingle mill I guy can cut out a complete water tight building easily.


Good point...can't beat it.  So remember you were talking about getting a resaw, did the shingle mill replace that?  Was is the woodmizer resaw attachment you were looking at?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 03, 2016, 06:28:01 AM
Well, 4x4 I have been thinking. The sawmill is nice I have the WM single attachment it works good but slow.
The resaw WM is a good one, but I bet slow.
I'm thinking a machine to do one job fast. Not try to have the LT40 do all the jobs.
The shingle mill at the fair was a lot faster then the WM shingle attachment.

Fast is the thing for a sawmill to make money. More so in the wholesale market.
I'm in the retail market, so I can go a little easer. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on October 03, 2016, 06:39:58 AM
So that old clunky thing from way back in the day is still faster than todays methods huh...and it bet it was cheaper back then in todays dollars
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 03, 2016, 07:13:04 AM
A new shingle mill I bet is real fast. Like the resaw for pallets with one man someone had up was a nice mill. To cut pallet lumber on a WM I don't know never done it never will.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 24, 2016, 07:27:53 PM
A little hemlock Wednesday.
 

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So today with it being Thanksgiving and all . I helped Ann at 5 am to put the bird in the oven. Then off to a farmer friend of mine to get some cow pooo. We trade poo for Pine/ Hemlock saw dust..

 

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He bought all the lumber for the barn from A&P Sawmill.  ;D
Got back and had another friend in the yard.  8)

 

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And a customer for some sawdust.

Have some wood to scale :D
 

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All I have now is inside work on the mill building to do

 

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Let it snow. 8) 8) :snowball:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on November 24, 2016, 08:05:44 PM
Never a day off for you, Hemlock Man Pine Man. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on November 24, 2016, 08:21:53 PM
Nice wood , great cow barn , and super cool sawmill yard :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on November 24, 2016, 10:37:41 PM
That must be the day he brought the cows home cause that is the cleanest barn I've seen, very nice!


Your yard looks great as usual, but, what gives, no snow yet??! lol lol




When you get hemlock in and you can see the heartwood is a much darker color, is that indicative of shake?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 25, 2016, 06:01:30 AM
Never a day off for you, Hemlock Man Pine Man. 


When the money is coming in you don't stop. There will be time for the resting thing when it's -20° ;D



Nice wood , great cow barn , and super cool sawmill yard :)


Thanks, I thought you were going to stop by sometime?


That must be the day he brought the cows home cause that is the cleanest barn I've seen, very nice!


Your yard looks great as usual, but, what gives, no snow yet??! lol lol




When you get hemlock in and you can see the heartwood is a much darker color, is that indicative of shake?


We have farmers here take good care of their cows, The barn gets mucked out every day.

No on the Hemlock, A little dark is ok. I have seen Hemlock with all white wood and have shake in it .
I like a darker hart on the Hemlock, Just the way it grows here.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: woodworker9 on November 25, 2016, 01:51:00 PM
I thoroughly enjoy the updates on this thread, and always look forward to them.

Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on November 25, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
I'm planing on stopping in but been busy :)
That's a good thing
I need to get some bands to Belmont
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 25, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
I'm planing on stopping in but been busy :)

Bruno


I know what you mean, With the cold snap we have customers coming like crazy.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 15, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Nice today, Sun out, Finished up an order of live edge siding.
 

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See how the sawdust freezes on the wood.  :D
Last 2 days, it's been doing that.
 

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No sawing next 2 days bring home some fire wood.
 

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I'll get the wood out and the logger will make another pile like that .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on December 15, 2016, 07:48:26 PM
Peter
Watch your self out side on Friday with the wind chill it could be -15 to -35
More snow for Saturday I be in the plow truck
Back to milling next week
How much fire wood do you burn ?
Bruno
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 16, 2016, 05:39:37 AM
Bruno, It will be 2 to 3 years to use it all up.  But it will be here to work up. Where it's going I can't get a logging truck in. So I'm using the one ton with John.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 07:05:05 AM

Well...hopefully it warms up in an hour or two  :D
Lumber is gonna be froze right together today


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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: sandsawmill14 on December 16, 2016, 07:14:25 AM
4x4 im afraid my fire would freeze at those temps :o better go back to bed wait till june  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 16, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
It is another ICE AGE up there.  Glaciers are thickening.  Don't get froze DUG and Pine Man. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 06:28:48 PM
Tell you what, yesterday was around +18F and it was cloudy and windy.  Today was in the negatives and then warmed up to in between +4 and maybe +9 but it was sunny and no wind.  Yesterday was miserable, today wasn't bad at all, actually a really nice day, however, once the sun went down it was more colder feeling.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 16, 2016, 06:45:37 PM
High of twelvish today. I put the splitter next to the boiler and opened the door to take advantage of the radiant heat. The woodmonster is hungry in this weather.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 06:54:01 PM
Been sawing some Doug Fir, Pine, and Hemlock.  The Doug Fir is beautiful.


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Before I knew really what I had I just used the Doug Fir for siding and purlins :( 




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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 07:00:29 PM
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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on December 16, 2016, 07:10:17 PM
Holy cow no snow there.
I have been snowed out since early November.
Not that I would have sawed anyway as my helper moved to Texas on me.
going to Florida on January 4 and back in Mid April.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 16, 2016, 07:20:40 PM
It was cold. But John started up and we went to work.
 

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I think I'm ½ way. I have a customer coming 8 AM to pick up the siding.
Then try to get to the wood lot to bring down the rest. With the 1 ton, It's parked up there.
I don't like driving John down the road in the snow.  The weather man said 2 to7".
With the snow I have Red Fox tracts all over. I knew they were here eating chipmunks. ;D
I was surprised.
The tracks go over the log piles, slab piles, up the wood chip pile.  And their running, 4' from print to print. :o
I had an ermine, all White with a black tip tail chase a chipmunk the other day, 
Chipmunk lost the race.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 16, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
4x4 is that the addition we were talking about the other day?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
Petefrombearswamp  I heard you guys got pounded out there in CNY.  Those last pictures are from a couple days ago before we had much snow.  I live 25miles east of the sawmill and there is much more snow here.  We got 6-7" the other day here at home, went to the sawmill and had maybe 3-4".  We need at least a foot of snow on the ground before the snow machine trails here open up.  People are getting ancy and riding anyways I see.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 07:25:25 PM
4x4 is that the addition we were talking about the other day?


Yup, sho ams
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 07:29:06 PM

Here are some more pics Peter

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: thechknhwk on December 16, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
Looks good D-U-G ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on December 16, 2016, 07:36:18 PM
Is that an edger outside with a black cover?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on December 16, 2016, 08:41:19 PM
Sho' is some nice D-U-G Fir. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on December 16, 2016, 09:03:45 PM
Are those your new sawmill wheels there?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on December 16, 2016, 09:41:28 PM
Thanks everyone, yea that Doug Fir is stellar.  I had no idea...


Peter and Dave, that's a big ten four.
She's got two on the door, six on the floor and a cupholder in the console
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on December 16, 2016, 11:40:41 PM

Well...hopefully it warms up in an hour or two  :D
Lumber is gonna be froze right together today


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That picture needs a dislike button. I would use it.

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on December 18, 2016, 12:47:38 PM
D-U-G fir
That's one of my go to woods to build things with it looks great as a floor .
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 47sawdust on December 18, 2016, 04:05:58 PM
Bruno,
 As a fellow builder,I like D Fir a lot.Porch decking,ceiling,interior stair treads,window sills,and the list goes on.What I don't like is the splinters.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on December 18, 2016, 05:43:11 PM
It does splinter a lot and gives some nice ones to the hands and fingers
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 01, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Can you believe it, First day of the year and look at what drives in.
 

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Some nice W Pine and hemlock to start the year. ;D
With all the ice and snow it can be a challenge piling logs.
 

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With the holidays just about over I guess it's back sawing :new_year:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 01, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
I am 100℅ positive that log clamps were invented in the winter after a dusting of snow.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on January 01, 2017, 11:38:56 PM
Looking good...frozen logs have anmind of their own, piling them can be a chore.  I gotta truck and pup of beech coming this week and maybe a straight truck of pine
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bruno of NH on January 02, 2017, 11:50:40 AM
4x4
Do you cut ties or mats with the beech ?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: WDH on January 02, 2017, 02:58:31 PM
Pine Man gets Pine on the 1st day of the year.  Very appropriate  ;D.  They (I) don't call you Pine Man for nothing  ;). 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 69bronco on January 02, 2017, 05:28:36 PM
Doug, that beech is some slippery when it's froze! Bad enough when it's not.. Dropped an interesting red oak this afternoon, standing dead 32" butt. Not sure what to do with it but I've got a new box of 4degree Kascos from member Cutting Edge I'm itching to try!

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on January 02, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
Bruno, I get the beech for ties and pallet lumber.


Bronco, that is a gnarly red oak!


Got a call earlier today have another straigh truck of beech coming later in the week.  Might also get a straight truck load of pine in to saw into dimensional lumber for the logger.  Got three trailers in my yard that are customers that I need to fill up for their custom orders and got a bunch of little dimensional jobs and a guy interested in a 20x30 shop. So far 2017 looks promising, knock on wood!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 02, 2017, 05:37:07 PM
69bronco, You might have some nice wood in there.  8) :new_year:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 02, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
4x4, That Beech is tough stuff, I was thinking about cutting a bunch into cribbing 7x8x4'.
I get carpenters want to jack up barns and such. I'm thinking any Hardwood will work.
 :new_year:



Has anyone else here cut them before?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on January 02, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
I have a friend with a hydraulic hud-son sawmill, he said he cant cut beech with it, hasnt found the right blade.  but he can cut hard maple no problem. 


On the other hand, I can cut beech fine, and have a hard time with hard maple.


I think beech makes some nice lumber and is an under utilized wood.  It makes for great firewood
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 02, 2017, 08:14:15 PM
4x4 it is good firewood, I have made grade stakes with it before.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: TheBusyBeaver on January 02, 2017, 10:18:20 PM
that's going to be quite a payday when that's done. also neat idea on the log mover. wish I had a hydraulic mill.. LT15 is all manual
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 03, 2017, 10:06:08 AM
 :new_year: back to you Peter
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 04, 2017, 09:39:41 PM
This is how I clean the groove, I flip the auto start, then turn the key, then flip the key off when the brake is off.
With the blade off I can spin the drive wheel. I use my pocket knife with a flat screwdriver end in the wheel and the other end up against the shroud.
Gets all the stuff out.
 

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And while I have the b57 off I use the shroud to scrape the gunk off ;D
 

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Works well for me.
Cutting frozen Hemlock. 8) 8)
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 06, 2017, 05:54:08 AM
Had a customer bring in some logs for me to cut for him.
 

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Had a log too big. Told him to cut it in ½.
 

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All was going good making 2x10x16, Hemlock.  Not too hot out, nice day.
 

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Then it happens, One of the pump stop working. :o :o
 

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Has power, makes a lot of noise. I have new brushes coming from WM.
So I took off the wire off the junk pump and will use one till I get the parts.
Dose that make my 40 not a supper now. :D :D :D :D

Just got an order for 1200 LF of 5/4x 4" R Oak and down to one pump.

Always something :D :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: paul case on January 06, 2017, 08:38:29 AM
It was warmer there than it was here yesterday. :(

PC
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 06, 2017, 08:42:48 AM
You have to plug the filler hole in the non working pump, but you knew that already.    ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 06, 2017, 06:18:44 PM
You have to plug the filler hole in the non working pump, but you knew that already.    ;D



I did that
 

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And the oil came out the running pump.
I found a set of new brushes I'm putting in. The motor is downstairs waiting for me to get off the forum. ;D 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 06, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
What do you think Magicman?
It did smell a little burnt. :o :D
 

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I cleend it up some, Looks ok,
 

 
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I have new bruches here and more comeing with some seals.
But like a dumb a$$ yankee that I am ;D
I did not include the bracket ring that holds the brushes in place with the order.
I don't think I can fix the old one,
 

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Mill will be down for awile.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on January 06, 2017, 08:40:33 PM
Oh boy...at how many hours do you start stocking these on the shelf?
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 06, 2017, 08:57:33 PM
Yup, that brush rack assembly is toast in more ways than one and you will be fortunate if there is not a burnt winding somewhere.  The armature really needs chucking up in a lathe and dressing that commutator and polishing.  That certainly would help the brushes to make better contact.

Is the other hydraulic motor the same age?  If so, now would be the time to rebuild them both.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 06, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
I have a local supplier that has the stuff in stock so I don't have to keep them on the shelf.

Also I dont wait for mine to go. A simple load/draw test every 200 ish hours will tell you when to swap em out. The motors should be cleaned at least every 500 hours or once a year or so any way just as a part of a good house keep procedures IMHO. I have not had a set crater yet and swapped the original pump motor brushes etc when I added the second pump 1100 hrs ago. Have done 1 cleaning since with second due this spring.

Most of you will be aware that I up sized ALL my  motor load circuits to #8 stranded copper when I added the second pump with the pumps on 2 OO welding cable from the batteries. ALL connections silver soldered and shrink tubed as required.           
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 07, 2017, 06:42:20 AM
I did all the brushes in the 2 pumps last Feb. If you look the oil got in there and did a nasty. :D :D
The new seal I put in the last time.
 

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This is the trouble maker.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Chuck White on January 07, 2017, 07:27:15 AM
Ah Ha, another use for roofing screws Peter!

I like it!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: newoodguy78 on January 07, 2017, 08:13:47 AM
Roofing screws and 5 gallon buckets are in the same category to me...the possible uses are endless. Throw in a pair of vise grips and you can really make some things happen  :D :D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on January 07, 2017, 09:23:52 AM
I'm thinking that I would buy a new motor. The heat probably has the
insulation value of the windings down to about nothing.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 07, 2017, 12:49:48 PM
I'm thinking that I would buy a new motor. The heat probably has the
insulation value of the windings down to about nothing.


On Monday I'm going to the starter/altenator shop to test the thing. Then I'm calling Ross in Maine and order two new motors.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: coxy on January 07, 2017, 02:04:36 PM
see if you had a manual mill you could save that money and still be sawing  ;) :) :D 8) :-X :-X always got to have a smart ash in the group  ;D :laugh:
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 07, 2017, 02:48:18 PM
Roofing screws and 5 gallon buckets are in the same category to me...the possible uses are endless. Throw in a pair of vise grips and you can really make some things happen  :D :D

My Grampa had "tool box" that went where he went.
It was Texaco 5 gallon bucket! It contained a couple of pliers, a couple of vise grips, various screw drivers, several clumps of used baling wire, a hack saw, a couple of files and a black smith hammer.
 
Duct tape didn't exist back then.

Forgot the Crescent wrenches!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 07, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
see if you had a manual mill you could save that money and still be sawing  ;) :) :D 8) :-X :-X always got to have a smart ash in the group  ;D :laugh:




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Duct tape didn't exist back then.  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: newoodguy78 on January 07, 2017, 07:04:05 PM
Roofing screws and 5 gallon buckets are in the same category to me...the possible uses are endless. Throw in a pair of vise grips and you can really make some things happen  :D :D

My Grampa had "tool box" that went where he went.
It was Texaco 5 gallon bucket! It contained a couple of pliers, a couple of vise grips, various screw drivers, several clumps of used baling wire, a hack saw, a couple of files and a black smith hammer.
 
Duct tape didn't exist back then.

Forgot the Crescent wrenches!

Ahhhh....crescent wrenches. Aka-knuckle busters  ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: coxy on January 07, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
watched a farmer friend use baling twine to hold the gas tank :o in his truck after the straps rotted away   went a few months like that till the twine rotted and just added more  :) :)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 09, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
I'm thinking that I would buy a new motor. The heat probably has the
insulation value of the windings down to about nothing.


Yup, Junk, That's what the El.Motor guy said.
 

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New motors and seals will be here Tuesday.  8) 8)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 09, 2017, 07:21:36 PM
I got in the habit of tearing down starter motors to clean them when I worked for a rebuilder  for 2 summers. All that conductive powder in them is a sure fire product to destroy the innards of them. It dont take much to clean them. Getting to them can be a pain sometimes but it is well worth the work. 
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 09, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
watched a farmer friend use baling twine to hold the gas tank :o in his truck after the straps rotted away   went a few months like that till the twine rotted and just added more  :) :)

i have seen twine used for lots of stuff but the old wire tie balers actually used steel wire. That stuff was very useful.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 09, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
Getting to them can be a pain sometimes but it is well worth the work. 



It's so now I can have the two motors on the table in less than a½ hour. ;)
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: 4x4American on January 09, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
Is you guys talking about the same thing here?  ???
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 10, 2017, 05:44:11 AM
I fix it 4x4 from pump to motors. ;D
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 10, 2017, 04:24:18 PM
 

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Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Magicman on January 10, 2017, 07:08:57 PM
You are on a roll now.   smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Kbeitz on January 10, 2017, 07:31:00 PM


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Hey that looks good...
Lots of people don't know that most PM 12volt motors are made
mostly buy one company. So you can go to the junkyard and pull
a 12 volt starter off a garden tractor and use most of the parts to
fix other motors. This also works with 24 volt stuff but it's much
harder to find.
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Bandmill Bandit on January 10, 2017, 10:05:03 PM


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I like you work bench! I have one like that too.
IF it aint broke I can probably still fix it!
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 11, 2017, 06:49:31 AM
You know Kbeitz, I can relate at the stuff from the junk yard. I'm  a picker too ;D
But, When it comes to the mill and that's where the $$$$ comes from I go new If I can on parts.
I don't spend Hrs looking for things. Over here time is $$$. Like I only need one motor, but  two new ones are going in.
The old one that's good is going on a shelf. The two old ones have over 4000hrs on them and have been rebuilt one time already.
 
I have a bunch of orders to get out, The first one is $875,00 of green R Oak. 5/4 x 4 x 1200'. I think I will cut all 16'. That will speed it up some.  ;D
Now I'm here waiting for the sun to come up chomping at the bit. ;D smiley_horserider smiley_sun smiley_whip
Title: Re: A day cutting wood
Post by: Peter Drouin on February 02, 2017, 08:38:22 PM
The rack, This time of the year I put up ½ cord bundles.
Customers use them for making Maple syrup.
 

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