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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #260 on: February 17, 2019, 12:56:17 PM »
Thank you Glenn.  Got about a month ish left on getting mine and I am getting excited about it.   

A loop and radiator system sounds like a good idea.  Especially if water supply is limited.  My rough math is about 200 gallons a day that would be operating that vacuum pump.  Then about 5 to 10 gallons of water a day coming from the charge of lumber.  My question would be is the water coming from the wood clean enough not to contaminate your water supply,  and start leaving deposits of stuff internally in the kiln?
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #261 on: February 18, 2019, 08:49:31 AM »
I understand that vacuum pump will run about 20-30 mins initially, so less that 30 gallons of water. I'm not sure how much more it runs to maintain the vacuum. It drops it vacuum once a day to allow waste water to drain.
I would think the waste water will be caustic of some sort. Every one talks about the inside of klns need to be indestructable from the acid wate moisture from the wood.
I am about 3 weeks out for my kiln. I am waiting on the CSA stcker, which will allow my electrician to hook it up. 
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #262 on: February 18, 2019, 10:00:11 AM »
Thank you Glenn.  Got about a month ish left on getting mine and I am getting excited about it.  

A loop and radiator system sounds like a good idea.  Especially if water supply is limited.  My rough math is about 200 gallons a day that would be operating that vacuum pump.  Then about 5 to 10 gallons of water a day coming from the charge of lumber.  My question would be is the water coming from the wood clean enough not to contaminate your water supply,  and start leaving deposits of stuff internally in the kiln?
We have estimated the pump to run around 2-3 hours each day so 200 gallons would be a good safe number and your 5-10 gallons of wood water is also a good estimation. Some steam that did not condense in the kiln would run through the pump but we don't have a good number on that yet. If anyone else has some thoughts let us know. 

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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #263 on: February 19, 2019, 06:00:49 AM »
The water removed from wood is very acidic. Very low pH. It would be corrosive to any metal.

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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #264 on: February 22, 2019, 09:18:17 AM »
I dont think my kiln is using anywhere near 200 gallons a day. I dont think its even running 60 gallons a day. 
I have been trying to use the amount of wood water coming out of the drain as a way if understand how the drying is progressing. I dont have the time to monitor it everyday but I try to check it once or twice a week. I started a new load on Monday and on Wednesday it realease about 18 gallons of wood water (didnt have time to check the release for Tuesday). On the previous load, on the second to the last day only about a gallon came out. 
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #265 on: March 11, 2019, 09:32:00 AM »
So how are all you guys doing?
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #266 on: March 11, 2019, 10:56:38 AM »
I am hoping to pick my unit up early next week. I have the electrical installed, the plumbing is ready, the 1st 2 loads of wood have been brought in from the snow and ice to thaw. 
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #267 on: March 13, 2019, 09:35:08 PM »
Will Jim have a display at AWFS in Las Vegas this summer ?
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« Reply #268 on: March 14, 2019, 09:07:01 PM »
Are there any comments from folks that did buy  this kiln? I would love to hear more about this kiln. I talked to Jim today,,,, knowledgeable  person. Rob
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #269 on: March 15, 2019, 06:59:54 AM »
I have been looking all over trying to hear more.
Most of what I hear is it is not as fast as 1" in 1 week, maybe 8-9 days.
Like everything patience. The wood is coming out looking good. 
One gentleman described the process as a speeded up air drying process.
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« Reply #270 on: March 15, 2019, 09:42:42 AM »
Thanks. If I hear more on someones experience I will post it.
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #271 on: March 16, 2019, 10:24:48 PM »
I haven't dried a whole lot of green material yet. What I've found so far. 4/4, 5/4 and 6/6 walnut right of the mill is pretty close to the week per inch. It took 13 days for me to go right off the mill with 1 5/8 thick walnut down to 6-7%. . Here is my findings for thicker material. Mixed load of 2in, 2 3/8 and 3 1/2 thick walnut green. I left the 2 and 2 3/8 in for 24 days. The 3 1/2 is still in. I think the extra moisture coming from the thicker material slowed down the process for the thinner material.  
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« Reply #272 on: March 17, 2019, 08:02:33 AM »
Busy, Amount of checking/ degrade overall? Thanks for the feedback.  Rob
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #273 on: March 18, 2019, 10:11:54 PM »
Got an email saying my kiln will be ready in about a week.  Making plans of a road trip to go get it.  Can't wait to get my hands on it and get that thing online!!
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« Reply #274 on: March 18, 2019, 11:04:24 PM »
I made it to Barre VT 
I will be over to IDRY to pick up my kiln in the morning. 
If all goes well I will be home Tuesday evening and setting the kiln in place of Wed morning. 
Pictures to follow. 
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« Reply #275 on: March 19, 2019, 11:19:17 AM »
Glad you made it Stephen.  Safe travels home.
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« Reply #276 on: March 20, 2019, 12:31:29 AM »
Home safe! Had a nice visit with the boys from IDRY, Jim, Rick, and Brian. Busy place as they transition to a new shop and office.
I had to reposition the kiln on the trailer after I left. It had a little fish tail to it about 50. I pulled off the interstate and pulled it forward on the trailer. Its nice having the ratchet chain binders.
The crane comes in the morning to offload and maneuver the kiln into the shop.
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Re: Vacutherm iDry input
« Reply #277 on: March 21, 2019, 09:09:41 PM »
The Kiln landed. I hooked up the electric yesterday  and finished up the plumbing hook up today.
 loaded the kiln with 2" EWP slabs on the bottom.   
<br live edge 4/4 Poplar and Maple for charcutie boards. I threw is some Cherry and Birch ovals, some walnut small pieces. I want to see how the ovals do in the kiln.  My thoughts are to change out the 4/4 on the top with different stck next week . Then reload with more 4/4 and back in the dry the EWP
All different moisture from 19% for the 4/4 to %26 for the pine. >
 

 
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« Reply #278 on: March 21, 2019, 09:25:16 PM »
Stephen 1, Thanks for taking the time to document what you are doing, it is appreciated.  Rob
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« Reply #279 on: March 24, 2019, 03:29:39 PM »
Looking good Stephen.  lm interested in knowing how your ovals did too.  We will be leaving Tues to pick mine up on Fri.
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