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Red Pine
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:12:40 PM »
I have about 12 acres of 70 year old red pine.  I do not want to clear cut but I do want to cut some of it.  I can cut and skid it but after shipping will only end up with about $10.00 a tree. Any thoughts on how to add enough value to these trees to make it worth my time to cut them?  I could buy a manual mill but I don't think I could sell enough 2x4's to make it worth it. I live in Central New York State.

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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2019, 08:26:45 PM »
What ever you do don't cut until October. Although red pine makes nice 2x4, there is no money in small sticks . I would say 1" boards.

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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2019, 08:42:47 PM »
What numbers are you using to come up with the $10 figure? In an average stand of 70 year old red pine, I would venture a guess of 3-4 trees to make a cord. Thinning good pine stands like that, we're often paying $50-75 cord just for stumpage. Of course, that all depends on your available markets. The best pay is if you have any market for power poles in your area, or house logs. If managed correctly, those trees should be 14-16" dbh?
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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 08:59:32 PM »
Locally I can get around $50.00 a ton minus shipping. Average dbh is 12-14".  Are my numbers off?

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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 09:11:54 PM »
Im thinking house logs too.  My home is made from red pine logs.  Most of them are are about 20 at the butt end.
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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 11:16:45 AM »
Red pine is around 4800 pounds per cord, so 2.4 tons per cord. So around $120/cord delivered, which is in the area of what red pine bolts pay here. A 50 mile haul would run around $35 a cord, leaving you $85 a cord if you did the cutting. If your trees are 6 sticks, 3-4 should make a cord. 
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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 08:29:00 PM »
@moodnacreek why no cutting until October? Bugs?  Im planning to mill some red pine posts for a pole barn soon.
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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 06:56:53 AM »
Red pine is around 4800 pounds per cord, so 2.4 tons per cord. So around $120/cord delivered, which is in the area of what red pine bolts pay here. A 50 mile haul would run around $35 a cord, leaving you $85 a cord if you did the cutting. If your trees are 6 sticks, 3-4 should make a cord.
Comparing this with my prices and costs I should be able to make more than $10.00. Thanks
What ever you do don't cut until October. Although red pine makes nice 2x4, there is no money in small sticks . I would say 1" boards.


I realize this is all locally dependent but any thoughts on how much I could sell 1" rough cut boards for? Any preferred size?

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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 07:08:24 AM »
I would do some looking around for a pole buyer first thing. Nice red pine =$$ for utility poles.

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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 08:00:09 AM »
I'm getting .85 cents a bord ft for 1 inch red pine here 
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Re: Red Pine
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2019, 04:01:39 PM »
@moodnacreek why no cutting until October? Bugs?  Im planning to mill some red pine posts for a pole barn soon.
True pines , sawed off the stump, well heat in warm weather and blue stain or worse. In red pine it can go to black mold in a hot spell if not air dried.  October to march is pine cutting season in N.Y. state. The big mills cut and truck it fast then keep it wet and cool and saw it and dip it or fan shed it. The rest of us often spoil it,s real value.


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