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annoying debarker alarm.
« on: April 17, 2019, 07:41:24 AM »
When at Jakes (customsawer) last week, Robert (yellowhammer) mentioned that his new mill came with a warning light that blinks instead of the loud alarm, which by the way I cant hear with my ear muffs on anyway.
I am going to try modifying mine with an led 12v light.
I assume this will work but will report back.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2019, 07:47:31 AM »
I really like the flashing yellow light.  I was talking to one of the WM guys and besides the pure annoyance of the beeper, he said the main reason they switched was that a deaf person (or one wearing hearing protection) can run a sawmill, but renders the warning useless.

However, most people who run a sawmill can see.

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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2019, 08:06:54 AM »

However, most people who run a sawmill can see.
One would assume the same is true for folks who load a kiln too, but you know...   :D
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2019, 08:39:59 AM »
I agree, a flashing yellow proximity alarm would be useful when a load of lumber threatens to beer can a kiln.

Since thereís no pictures, it never, happened.  

Nope, I donít seem to recollect any such incident.... :D



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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2019, 08:48:17 AM »
No pictures you say? Yo @K-Guy What say you?  :D
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2019, 09:01:31 AM »
Robert your payment to keep the pictures secret hasn't come this month??  :D :)
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2019, 02:22:58 PM »
Check is in the mail.... :D :D :D :D
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2019, 02:28:17 PM »
So no chickens were harmed then, either?
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2019, 07:23:47 PM »
Put a LED light on today and it works, but am wondering if I can wire an automotive flasher in the line for flashing.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2019, 07:38:34 PM »
Pete,

sure it would, good idea as well.  Flasher relay only acts as an intermediate interruption to the circuit without and noticeable additional draw to speak of in any way.  Like the idea, flashing light is much more noticeable then a solid light which after some time can easily go unnoticed.

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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2019, 10:02:12 PM »
Google will find you a flashing LED.  I recently added them to the rear of my sawmill.

Edit:  not flashing, Strobe.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2019, 07:51:13 PM »
you will need a flashing LED. A standard auto flasher needs a certain amp load to flash.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2019, 05:01:35 AM »
     Did you try calling WM and see if their new light can be retrofit to your mill?
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2019, 05:42:25 AM »
Mine stopped working 5 min after I got the mill home.  ;D
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2019, 05:27:14 PM »
I cut one of the wires going to the beeper and installed a small toggle switch!

When I have experienced offbearers, sometimes I will shut the beeper off, but if I have new people on the other side I leave it on!
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2019, 07:09:11 PM »
I have a flashing amber light on mine. Works better than the beaper. The beaper tends to make people draw to it because it is NOT indicating an implement in reverse. The light triggers an automatic CAUTION signal awareness.     
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2019, 07:17:11 PM »
Bandmill where did you Get the light?
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2019, 07:49:48 PM »
From a local Ag hardware store called Peavy Mart. Any Ag equipment parts supplier should have something.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2019, 09:28:10 PM »
Something like one of these should work:  LINK
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2019, 09:35:18 PM »
I have noticed a lot of places have either muffled the back up alarms or shut them off completely 
 Way to laud  for my ears.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2019, 09:48:04 PM »
Something like one of these should work:  LINK
Mine is basicly a 2 sided version of the one MM linked to above.
I'll get a part number when i am out where the mill is next week and post it. I think it cost me about 8 bucks CDN.
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2019, 08:29:29 AM »
Thanks Lynn, ordered one and for 4.69 its cheap.
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Re: annoying debarker alarm.
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2019, 11:17:47 AM »
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Just for your consideration.  Worker's compensation laws in many states have a provision that any attempt to modify, remove, or deactivate, safety devices provided by the original manufacturer will disallow compensation or benefits to injured personnel.  I have heard of this being used to block compensation when lockouts were subverted, belt guards removed, even drivers of company vehicles not using seatbelts.  Even if you aren't under OHSA observation, your liability insurance company may have the same provisions.   :P
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2019, 02:28:31 PM »
Yes Tom that is an issue the one must consider. It was actually a OHSA safety inspector suggested a flashing light to me. He was on site one day and finally asked me what the reverse beeper was beeping for. I showed him and he said right away that it would be better to have a flashing light. I didn't need  any other encouragement because I hate that beeper  
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