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« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2007, 10:13:19 PM »
Well, Tom,  you kinda described the making of the first 'catridges' :D :D  Keep thinking along that line ;D  You just about got those tubes figgered out.

TR, here's a clue just for you-----It's too old to be a broomhandle holder ;)

You guys are forgetting to think old-----pre civil war,  and remember this was packed by a horse :)
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« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2007, 11:03:51 PM »
old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm

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Re: Bro Noble's whatzit
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2007, 06:37:38 AM »
Am early version of a monocular?
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« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2007, 06:44:14 AM »
The tubes may have been mounts,was it made to hold a flag staff?
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« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2007, 11:24:58 AM »
The tubes may have held forms to role the early paper cartridges around to give it the base.  The flask may have held the mixture of salt peter and water to soak the papers in for complete combustion.
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« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2007, 11:40:50 AM »
Let me give you a little history on paper cartridges.  This may be something that Jeff will want to use when he advertises the whatzit on e-bay. 

paper 'cartouches'  pronounced 'kattiges' by some of our early Americans,  were developed soon after the hand cannon developed into the musket.  They were used from about 1575 to about 1865 to speed up the loading process during battle conditions.  A charge of powder and a lead ball were rolled in a piece of paper and folded, twisted, or glued at the ends and stored for the time when needed.  When used,  the end was torn off, a little powder placed in the priming pan of a flintlock arm, and the rest poured down the barrel,  followed by the ball.

George probably carried a couple of whatzits on his horse,  but not to carry his wooden teeth in :D :D
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« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2007, 11:54:48 AM »
Bro' that is interesting history. Wow, 300 years. 8)
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« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2007, 05:57:40 PM »
Ifin I knowed what it was, I might offer a hunnert dollars fer it, being as how it comes from Texas by way of a good ol Mizzou boy.
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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2007, 06:10:33 PM »
OK, OK, usually there was a pair of em, riding on either side of the saddle, and one carried a flagon of gin, the other the vermouth, and the little things on the side held the tooth picks with the olive.

For gentlemen soldiers, of course.
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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2007, 06:30:13 PM »
 :D :D :D :D

This whole thread gave me an idear for another whazzit? ;D
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« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2007, 09:51:23 PM »
OK, OK, usually there was a pair of em, riding on either side of the saddle,

For gentlemen soldiers, of course.

Well,  TR,  this much of what you said will be useful to Jeff :D :D

Say,  how tall was Santa Anna?  Do you reckon that's where this whatzit's mate went?
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« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2007, 09:59:35 PM »
Noble, I ran down as much Mexican stuff I could, nada, nothing, not the first hint.

Santa Anna was a purty short fella, that thing mighta held his cork leg!
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« Reply #92 on: March 01, 2007, 11:53:48 PM »
Here's da swizzle stick ta stir them martoonies.




It's my Johnson.
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« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2007, 06:48:49 AM »
Wow,  that's a beaut.  You better start saving your allowance so you can buy that old horsepistol a scabbard :(

By the way,  I think Furby owes you a cigar for figgering out the whatzit :D :D
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Re: Bro Noble's whatzit
« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2007, 10:57:29 AM »
 I haven't figured it out yet!   ???
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« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2007, 02:54:43 PM »
ME ???
Look who's talking Bro! :D :D :D

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« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2007, 05:37:39 PM »
Heres a picture of a saddle set up with the horsepistol holster in place.  Don't know where the DanG horse went! 8)

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« Reply #97 on: March 02, 2007, 06:01:08 PM »
Texas Ranger,
That saddle hasn't got a PRG like the first one does.
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« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2007, 10:45:32 PM »
Well I was doing some digging online about this and found a holster that was close but not it.
A little more digging and I found the website for the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.
I sent an email with a couple pics and here is part of the reply:

Circa 1845-1855 pommel holster.
Issued to mounted troops (dragoons and cavalry) they were used to carry
a single-shot percussion military pistols at the front of the
saddle. The narrow "pockets" on the face of the holster body at the
mouth were for carrying paper-wrapped cartridges for the weapon.


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Richard Rattenbury
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National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum
Oklahoma City, OK


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