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What's your limit?
« on: June 12, 2007, 11:30:03 PM »
This goes to all sawmill types. What is the largest log you can, or will, saw? Obviously, it depends on the circumstances. I sawed up several large pine today, and I think they were about the limit of what I can do alone. They were 10' and over 32" small end, with some taper. I run a manual WM.

So what type of mill do you run, and what is your limit, working as you normally do, i.e. if you always work alone or always have a helper. I have done a bunch of these pines in the 32" to 40" range, and it is a lot of bull work trying to turn these suckers.

The second log I did today, I opened up the top and tried to roll it over, and it just sat there like an out-of-work-bum-uncle on your couch. I couldn't roll it against the backstops, so I scooched it back onto the log deck and got the sawn side down and slid it back onto the mill. :-\  That was like trying to displace two bum uncles. ;D

To add insult to injury, I was trying to make some 18" knotty pine boards for panelling, but they kept coming out clear. Don't know what I am going to do with those. smiley_headscratch ;)

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 11:42:41 PM »
I run a Lucas 618.  I THINK I am supposed to be able to cut 54" diameter and 20' long, but I have never triead anything that big.  I do like logs greater than 30".  I have several SYP logs that are over 32" that are just waiting on me!

The only issue with the BIG logs is that I generally take the mill to the log.  Sometimes I have a guy with a lift that will put the logs on the bunk.  I really like the big logs when he is around.
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 11:49:16 PM »
My little LT 15 can take a 28" diameter log that is 10.5 feet long.  That is all I can manage to manually turn on the mill anyway (that may be stretching the truth just a little.  Not the log size, but rather my ability to turn it.  With 3 daughters, I am on my own, and Miss Scarlet knows better than to try it.  She is too busy sleeping in the sawdust ;D).
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 12:09:16 AM »
I have an Ocsar 28 with a custom trailer (13 foot max length). All manual except the hand winch to load logs. The largest log cut so far was 24", 13 foot long water oak. Turning it was a challenge, but it is possible with the Logrite. I usually average 12 - 18 inch logs.

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 12:13:11 AM »
A Baker 3638  that will cut 36" and a comfortable 24' long.
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 12:14:09 AM »
With my swing mill...The bigger the better  ;D

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 12:26:18 AM »
I guess this is where the swingers shine! Except for the 18" boards. ;D By the time I can afford a hydrualic mill, I will look like Arnolds stunt double.


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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 12:40:30 AM »
 I ran into that just that last week. I  Needed 2x10s.  and  I can only cut one-upto 16" per row horizontally with a swinger without rolling the log or cant.  I'm thinking of adding a band saw to my swing mill track.  It could sit at the opisite end of the track until needed then move in and do the cutting that bandsaws shine at.  Anyone ever combined a swinger with a band mill?

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 01:03:48 AM »
My Mobile Dimension Saw, in its current configuration, can handle 42" logs up to 25 feet long.  I don't try to go over 24 feet, though.  I also don't try to get anywhere near that 42" limit, either.  I fail to see what is so fascinating about huge logs.  They are difficult and dangerous to handle, and I find that the wood from them is usually of lesser quality than that from younger, healthier trees.  I think 36" is about as large as I have cut, and it wasn't any fun.  I do like the capability of cutting long stuff, though.

Firebass, that has certainly been thought of and talked about, but I don't think anybody has actually done it.  I think it's a great idea. Go for it! 8) 8)
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 01:54:12 AM »
No limit. The biggest I've sawed with my Lucas is 62", but I would not hesitate to saw something  larger. I have sawed all the way down to 4" just to split some logs in 2 for some trim, but I usually look at anything smaller than 18" as firewood. Sometimes I will slab off some shelving or mantels from those smaller logs, but only if I need to. I will buy a bandmill someday. I think that with a bandmill, a swinger and an Alaskan mill, there is really no limit.

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 04:10:28 AM »
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Anyone ever combined a swinger with a band mill?

I think the major downside to that would be - it wont be portable anymore.
The bed/rails would have to be able to load and hold the 5 ft dia logs that the swingblade can cut. A swingblade mill can do it because the log just sits on the ground ( or some seperate bunks ), so the mill rails only support the saw itself. When we cut those big logs, we generally try not to have to move them ;)

DanG.. in this part of the world the BIG logs usually have the good wood in them.  8)

Again - I'm in the Swingblade camp, mill can handle ~60" x 16 ft. I haven't maxed it out yet, but it's cut up 50+" logs with no problems.

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 08:16:57 AM »
We sawed this one yesterday on the LT15 and I think it's the largest diameter that we have done.   We were able to turn it by hand but it took two of us.  Debarking made it much easier.  I bucked it at 8'6" because that's what we needed and I wasn't sure that the Kubota would lift it if it was longer.  I love the amount of lumber that a log this size makes but what a pain to load and turn.  I had to trim a little off of the side with the chain saw to let the saw frame pass by.
 


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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 08:54:27 AM »
I have a stationary manual mill that can cut 36" dia. and 37' long.   The longest I have cut is a 31' x 30" dia. Hackberry.
I have built a winch for turning the logs which was the hardest part of milling until the winch.  I work alone but have a Case skid steer and a Ford backhoe with forks so I can handle some heavy boards. 8)
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 09:22:34 AM »
I can handle some heavy boards. 8)

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 09:43:04 AM »
My current configuration (8" 30hp Peterson WPF) will do about 50" in diameter, and 40 feet long if I use all of my track.I would prefer NOT to do a 50" diameter log 40 feet long, however  ;)

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 09:53:02 AM »
I can go up to 50 inch 15' long but don't ever want to go there. My back limits me to 18 to 30 inches 15' long.
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 10:47:35 AM »
My portable, manual LM1 is capable of rendering a log 30" X 19'.

But, I'm not.   ;D

The largest diameter I've run on it is about 26", and it is a double naught pain.

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2007, 12:32:30 PM »
Breezewood B2000, 26' 6" without extension. 50' 6" with extension. 36" diameter

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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2007, 12:36:14 PM »
I'd saw up General Sherman if I was contracted to do so.  where there's a will, there's a way

(of course, I've never actually seen General Sherman, but with a name like that, I'd DanG well do my best to finish it off)
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Re: What's your limit?
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2007, 02:37:49 PM »
Like WDH, I have a LT 15 but I can cut a 17 footer. 25" X 14' spruce pine has been my biggest so far. Man, what an eruptoid log that was. :o  smiley_furious I have since added a manual winch with double pulleys that should flip them big suckas with no problem. Still got to test it though.    Don
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