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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2007, 04:02:15 PM »
I've heard they work good, as long as you brick the bottom. Some use sand, but I think it gets damp in the summer & rusts the drum faster. Could clean it out I guess.  I think you'd lose a lot of the heat it radiates putting it outside, plus you'd need a fan running?
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2007, 04:59:05 PM »
I have a Asley in my basement.I just put a outdoor furance in so I doubt I will ever repalce it.I really should of went with a All Nighter.I think these are like the ones that Mike made.I did not do the inside of the stove much good burning dead pine in it.Too late now.We also have a Home Clarion that I really like.Not thing to brag about heating wise,but it does OK as long as you keep putting the wood into it.It kept us warm for 5 years and we used very little oil.
inspector,what about a 250 oil tank?Have seen this done before with a home made door.He had to reinforce the sides from being wapped by the heat.If you do this,make sure you have a fire in it outside first.Do you have any steel kicking around?Can you maybe built one from flat steel and use the barrel stove kit?I have seen double barrel stoves.You get almost as much heat from the top one as you do the bottom one.Have to keep your eye on the barrel.They don't last long,meaning 2-3 years. Barrels that are made now,may only last 2.I would put a cheapo box fan behind it to move the heat.
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2007, 06:02:06 PM »
I have a bit more knowledge after reading this: http://www.vogelzang.com/Manuals/bk150eMnl.htm

I would have to add on to my shed just for the stove so I wouldn't give up storage/work space.

Other option would be to run electric from my trailer to the shed and than get a small electric heater. Shed is only a 8x10.


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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2007, 06:06:50 PM »
Barrel stoves heated a many logging camps and warming huts in their day. They were easy to make from empty steel oil barrels and easily replaced when they burned out. Newer woodstove technolgy with improved efficiency and safety has pretty much repaced them though.

The steel barrels aren't as readily available now either at as they once were.
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2007, 06:16:43 PM »
I heard the plastic ones don't hold up well, even with the bricks  :D :D
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »
 :D :D :D Wouldn't suprise me if someone out there has tried it.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2007, 08:15:15 PM »
I have one of the double barrel Vogelzang stoves in my barn (open air on one side).  It works well, all things considered.  I think that I have less than $150.00 in it; the most expensive thing was the flue pipe.  The stove kits themselves were pretty inexpensive.  I often run a box fan on one side of it to help push air across the barn.

It's not something that I would want to consider in a house, but it will generate a lot of heat in a metal shed.  I have bricks in the bottom of mine, with an old fireplace grate on top of them.  Thus farn the barrels have lasted 4 years w/o any problems.

The second barrel adds about 25 - 35% more heat than just a single barrel.

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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2007, 08:29:16 PM »
If you put a door and a grate in the second barrel you can smoke meat in there  8)

Nothing like being warm and well-fed  ;D

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2007, 06:49:15 AM »
Has anyone made a barrel stove?

I saw the kit at the farm store the other day and wondered how well they worked. Was thinking of making one to heat my shed.

Thought about placing the stove outside behind the shed and than piping it in.

Dont know much about stoves in general so any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

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I have a barrel stove to boil off sap for maple syrup.  They give out a lot of heat quick as some oen else mentioned you will want to line the inside of the stove with fire brick.  This will keep the stove from burning through and provide a mass that will radiate heat after the fire has died down.  The barrel on my evaporator is over 20 years old and is beginning to show signs of age.  Don't over heat the stove and you will get a long life out of it. 

Puting it outside may not give you much heat inside.  You could have a 6 or 8 inch diameter piece of pipe welded into the ends of the stove that runs the full length of it and put a fan in one end and blow the heat inside the shed, still not very efficient.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2007, 12:07:05 PM »
I took 4 barrels cut one end out, then put the open ends together to make a barrel twice as long. Sat them vertical beside each other. Then put a 8" pipe between them connecting  at top and bottom, put a door on the side of each one, put a chimny pipe out the top connected to each other then goes to the chimny. Had it about a year. I call it my top secret barrel stove, because what goes on in side is a big secret even from me. Here is what I do know.

1) can only start a fire on one side, other wise the bigest fire will put the small fire out.
2) both barrels get hot with fire in one side. What happens is the hot light gases from the fire go up 20% out the chimny 80% to other side, cool off, get heavy and concentrated then re enters the fire. When a fire burns it produses a lot of free carbon and oxygen that don't burn this gives it another time to burn.
3) no air intake, beside my bad fitting parts which would= about 1" dia.
4) likes to burn green wood with out making creosota or make a lot of smoke.
5) makes a great smoker on the side that not burning.
6)4-10 more efficient than a normal barrle stove

If someone wants to make one and add thier .02 to this .02 we could have 1/2 the energy  problem solved with .04 8) 8)
Let us know if you make one. No pic, yet will try this winter. You can google the German Dietz horned lamp . Its where the plan came from, the same princapal recirculaling gase.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2007, 12:40:46 PM »
.........................You can google the German Dietz horned lamp . Its where the plan came from, the same princapal recirculaling gase.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2007, 02:20:27 PM »
http://www.lanternnet.com/links.htm

Ben dose this help

then go to (lantern care and terminology) and look at the hot blast one the stove works a little like it.
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2007, 04:45:45 PM »
Inspectorwoody, to heat your shed, why don't you do what we do in Minnesota, to heat our icehouses. We use the small woodstoves designed for wall tents, the one brand I can think of is, the Cylinder Stove Company. I would Google up wood camping stove or wall tent stove and see what comes up. added the linlk http://cylinderstoves.com/
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2007, 05:11:24 AM »
Thanks for the input guys.  :)

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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2007, 11:23:24 PM »
I heated our home with a Vermont Castings Intrepid for about 15 years. It had a catalytic combuster that seemed to need replacing every three or four years. This fall I installed a new Lopi  Revere that doesn't require the combuster. So far we are more than pleased with this new stove. Much more heat and it has a very large glass door for viewing the fire. A real heating machine. Glass door stays very clean and very little smoke out the flue if any once heated up. One of the cleanest burning stoves on the market according to the ratings. I looked at a lot of stoves before purchasing this one and so far we are more than pleased.

I am sitting here now with a 35 mile an hour wind off Lake Ontario, 20F degrees outside and it is a toasty 72F inside. My main furnace if propane forced air and it never runs unless we are gone for more than a day.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2007, 11:03:11 AM »
I have one of the Vogelzang double barrels in my shop also. I have not set it up yet though because I have been spending more time in the house than the shop.

I set aside a nice supply of osage branches whenever I log it because the heat coming off those two drums when I burn osage is noticeably hotter than all the other mixed hardwoods I burned in it at first. I have bricks laid in the bottom of it.

Like Scott said I do not think it is a viable option for a home though. Shops, hunting cabin etc they are great for so low an initial cost.
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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2007, 11:19:56 AM »
I had an Ashley for about 10 years it worked fine but the thin sheet metal got a little scary when burning dry oak and ironwood.

 Made a barrel stove with a 'kit' door and used it for 20 plus years.  I put about 11/2" of sand to level the bottom then laid firebrick over that and halfway up the sides.  It worked great and I would be using it today if the clay flue in my masonry chimney wouldn't have started to break down. Now I have an outdoor furnace (Heatmore) and love it.

Double barrels are really great as you get more heat.  I saw one in the 60's where the top barrel was (very well supported) and filled with fist sized rocks.  That top barrel would be warm after 48 hrs with no fire.  It was in N. Wisconsin.

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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2007, 08:54:10 PM »
I grew up with a Fisher Papa bear, great stove. When the power was out we would cook and heat washwater on it. More recently we lived with a Baby bear, that thing would glow a dull red when it was really going. There was a Fisher franchise nearby in the 70's. A couple years ago there were still piles of the cast iron doors laying in the weeds.
Our current stove is an unknown brand, glass doors and secondary airstreams (?), it works well in our small house and burns clean but is a bit touchy. I'd prefer the old Fisher.

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Re: Favorite Wood Stoves
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2007, 11:25:05 PM »
  I heat with wood only. The basement stove is forced hot water.All I know about it is whats marked on the door (HYDRO STOVE BY HYDROHEAT) Works very well, 20 years now.
 The dining room stove is a Croford Cottage wood range .Love it
 Out in the yard under tarps is another wood range. Quaker I think??? Peach colored enamal.
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