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is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« on: April 18, 2008, 10:57:22 PM »
We had some strong winds the other day and several of these leaf and bloom clusters ended up scattered on the deck.

Looking at the leaves, I believe them to be from a black cherry.  Can anyone confirm?



 

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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 07:13:03 AM »
Yep, Prunus serotina, mine have peaked. The dogwoods are going strong right now.
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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 07:47:51 AM »
LL,

Nice cluster ;D.
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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 12:09:12 PM »
Looks right, won't see none here 'til June.  :D
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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 12:24:56 AM »
I thought it was probably black cherry.  Thanks for confirming.

I have a few cherries, but nothing really big - - - or straight.  I think my largest is about 14".

It is very likely that my area was logged about 60 years ago (give or take a few years).  Probably happened about the time that Lake Lanier was a concept on the drawing board and the Corps was specking out property to buy up.  Folks in the swath in or near the area to be flooded probably grabbed as much as they could from the land before the government came calling.  Even though the lake is 38,000 acres, they bought up about 56,000 acres from over 700 families.

As a result of this, I don't have any really old trees in my area.  And while the yellow poplar, white oak, northern red oak, and hickories are doing just fine - there are very few really large trees.  And this is doubly true for black cherry.  I'm not sure how small a tree of a desirable species needs to be to get ignored during a logging operation, but I would guess there were some 10 to 15 year old trees that escaped at the time.

WDH, your observations about yellow poplar being a "pioneer species" on cleared land are very accurate when you look at the growth patterns in my area.

As for the cherries, I can only guess that they were probably a highly desirable timber species 60 years ago - and remain so today.

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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 09:56:49 PM »
It is likely that the yellow poplar seeds that were dormant in the duff took off after the logging.  In areas where cherry is a prevalent species, they perform the same role as the birds are good at distributing the seeds in a distured area.  That happens too generally further north for the cherry, not so much down here.
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Re: is this spring growth from a black cherry?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008, 10:22:20 PM »
I also suspect that some of my large yellow poplars are stump sprouts from that bygone era.

I have several easily identifiable and smaller stump sprouts taking off now from some cutting that the previous homeowner did.


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