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What type of tree?
« on: August 03, 2008, 11:04:38 AM »
Here's one of those "you're a forester, what kind of tree is it" type of deal.  I haven't seen this tree, but I'm told that it is in someone's yard in southeastern PA, fairly close to Philadelphia.  It is supposed to be higher than a 2 story house, so that pretty well rules out a shrub.  Here's a picture of the leaves:



and here's a closeup of the bud:



The leaves are about 3" long, so they're a lot shorter than the typical oak leaves on our native trees.  I'm thinking its some type of oak, but could be wrong.  I really stink at ornamental species.
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Re: What type of oak?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 12:01:38 PM »
Not sure what it is, but I don't believe it's an oak.  Oak usually have a cluster of 3 or more buds at the tip of the twig.  That tree only has a single bud at the tip.
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Re: What type of oak?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 12:46:56 PM »
It's just a wag, but might it be an Althea of some sort?   I've seen them grow over the tops of houses down here.   Not having a good description of an Althea (Rose of Sharon) I'm just guessing.
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Re: What type of oak?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 02:01:32 PM »
That was my initial thought, but Rose of Sharon gets a maximum of 10'.  This one is apparently taller than that. 

When I tried to match something from a forest dendo book, I thought maybe some type of alder. 
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Re: What type of tree?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 07:17:20 PM »
It appears to have opposite branching tendencies, but it shows some alternate tendencies as well.  I do not believe that it is native, so it is out of my league.
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Re: What type of tree?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 11:07:05 PM »
I agree - looks very non-native to me...
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Re: What type of tree?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 07:02:37 AM »
It looks to be strongly related to beech though. I see pubescence on the petioles and leaf margins. I would say it's alternate also. The bud sure looks beechy.
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