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Hickory syrup
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:42:40 AM »
Lindy was telling me on the phone that she read an article about making syrup from hickory sap. The article said shag bark worked best. Said you do it just like tapping a maple. Anybody ever heard of this before?
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 04:34:39 AM »
Sure, why not? It's sugar content isn't as high as sugar maple, but you'll get sap. Need good freeze thaw cycles though, 20 to 40 F in that range is best. If the sap starts getting cloudy as it exits the tree it's not so good unless filtered. Here we used to quit when it turned that way. Just used to boil on the electric stove, but some hard on the elements. Wish I had some good sized yellow birch. ;D
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 05:53:17 AM »
What ? Can you make syrup brom yellow birch , too? 
What other trees are good for syrup?
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 06:23:51 AM »
butternut.  ;D
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 12:35:53 PM »
What dia. would the yellow birch and butternut have to be?
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 01:02:39 PM »
SwampDonkey,
A friend of mine married a young lady from canada and she got me spoiled on Maple syrup.  I can't even hardly stand the imitation stuff anymore.  I have even been known  to make a roadtrip up to the border to buy a fresh batch. 

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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 01:45:54 PM »
What dia. would the yellow birch and butternut have to be?

Personally, I wouldn't tap a tree under 12".

A friend of mine married a young lady from canada and she got me spoiled on Maple syrup.  I can't even hardly stand the imitation stuff anymore.  I have even been known  to make a roadtrip up to the border to buy a fresh batch. 

You got it bad. :D But, this isn't fake in anyway. It's just not maple syrup and I hope no one expects it to have maple flavoring. Come on now. :D :D :D ;)

Your yellow birch will have a hint of molasses. ;)
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2010, 02:01:49 AM »
Swampdonkey
When I said I can't hardly take the imitiation stuff anymore I am referring to the maple flavored corn syrup you get in the grocery store.   ;D

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2010, 06:40:23 AM »
I knew that, but I couldn't help myself. An emotional earth weakness of mine.  ;)
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2010, 06:44:45 AM »
I have a yellow birch in the back yard, a spile and need to find a bucket for some birch sap. Today is going to be a good sap run. ;D I'm gonna set a 3 gallon caner under the spigot, boil'r down in the shop. :D
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2010, 03:35:36 PM »
I did some further reading and it seems the yellow birch begins to run later than the maples. Today the maples are leaking sap about anywhere there is a fresh break or wound. The yellow birch is still dry. Some accounts say that the boiling process removes the wintergreen taste, as the methyl salicylate that makes the flavour is volatile. In boiling, looks like it can take from 125 litres up to 200 litres of yellow birch sap to get 1 litre of syrup. If I ever get any boiled down I'll let ya know. That's a lot of boiling. ;D :D

Some people talk about making yellow birch wine to. ;D
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2010, 05:07:32 PM »
I look forward to hearing how that turns out.

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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2010, 06:28:22 PM »
Just watch you don't burn the birch syrup. It has a lower scorch point than maple.

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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2010, 07:38:51 PM »
Well now that y'all have barked up wrong trees of other species ::) , I'll tell ya what I found out about the subject of this discussion.  It turns out that you don't make it from the sap at all.  Hickory syrup is made by boiling a large quantity of hickory bark in water.  You boil it all day, then strain out whatever liquid is left, add sugar, and boil it some more.

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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2010, 07:47:20 PM »
I'm so sorry for you folks.  It must be really bad up there.  I new that Michigan was in trouble, but I didn't realize it was the whole of Canada too.  I hadn't realized that y'all had resorted to eating trees. I've got some friends that might have a little cane syrup left over from the boilings last fall.  They might see it in their heart to send some up that way.  Do you need anything substantial, like meat or potatoes grits?   I'll get on the phone with the Red Cross and Salvation Army First thing in the morning.  :-\
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2010, 07:52:18 PM »
We all may have to start eating trees  :)
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2010, 03:54:57 AM »
Dang, why would you go through that mess, when you could just boil the sap? Don't expect the same flavour maybe. Perhaps they never reasoned that hickory makes sap to. :D Sure is an interesting process, thanks for looking it up. Now we know what some folks mean by hickory syrup. ;) According to Lee's wife she did read an article, it was the sap being boiled for the syrup. But, you can't believe all you read I suppose. I know how I'd make it though. ;) 

WDH, never know. ;D

Don't drink raw sap if it's gone cloudy and not too much otherwise unless you want a laxative. ;D
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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2010, 04:03:03 AM »
Just watch you don't burn the birch syrup. It has a lower scorch point than maple.

I was thinking it might with all that extra boiling. Will have to watch closely.  ;)

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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2010, 02:33:43 PM »
Some friends in AK would make it every once and a while. I have always seen it made from paper birch sap.
I see the pro's have started using reverse osmosis to remove most of the water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_syrup




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Re: Hickory syrup
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2010, 03:33:03 PM »
I also see them baking birch beer by distilling the black birch sap.  Well, if they can do it with black birch, so can they with yellow. Can I borrow your still? :)

I'm just an old fashioned pro, not too sophisticated either. :D
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