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How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« on: October 30, 2014, 06:52:55 PM »
Happy fall yaall,
I may have the option to upgrade to thelt40hd.
How much heavier duty Is the head on the 40?
Im starting to get busy now and wondering if the lt40 my be more suited for me.
Its the same bed and the 40 has the auto cluch <---- maybe this is a bad thing.
I know theres a few lt40 owners here...love to hear your thoughts on this.
You may want to know how much I would mill...and the answer would be I could be milling a lot by next summer.
Thanks in advance
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2014, 07:20:29 PM »
Tree Dan:
I have the auto clutch option on my LT40, and like it.
Concerning your question - "How much heavier duty Is the head on the 40" - I can not answer that one.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 07:26:02 PM »
I have a 2007 LT40HD with the 51 hp Cat. Diesel.  It is a heavy duty machine.  I definitely recommend the auto-clutch.  Also have the debarker,  lube-mizer and Accuset II.  It is an awesome machine for portable Sawmilling!  I don't have any experience with the LT35 so I can't make any comparisons.  Good luck!
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 07:31:57 PM »
TreeDan 

The autoclutch is an option on the LT40.   If that is one of the reasons to upgrade, make sure you have it included.   I installed the option kit supplied by Wood-Mizer on my LT40 quite a few years ago.     One of the top mods I did to my mill.   I think the cost is in the $600 range.   CHeck with Wood-Mizer.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 07:47:37 PM »
TreeDan 

The autoclutch is an option on the LT40.   If that is one of the reasons to upgrade, make sure you have it included.   I installed the option kit supplied by Wood-Mizer on my LT40 quite a few years ago.     One of the top mods I did to my mill.   I think the cost is in the $600 range.   CHeck with Wood-Mizer.

The AC is not the reason to upgrade, thanks I did not know It was a option on the 40.
The reason to upgrade would be for a more heavy duty mill.
But the 35 may be good enough...I don't know.
So far the lt35 has been running great for me...I do have a pine log to mill sat 32" dia 12 feet long...I will need to do some planning on cutting that log :P
Some 24" oak for next week
Its just a lot of money to put out for a new mill.
If I do this the new tree spade build for next spring will be out.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2014, 07:48:49 PM »
I don't know much of the difference between a LT35 and a LT 40 but I do know that when I stepped up to the LT70 from a LT40 there was some increase in production due to log handling ability. I would think there should be that much of a increase from a 35 to 40.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 08:08:14 PM »
I don't think the difference is an issue of one being heavier built than the other. The LT40 just has a larger log capacity and more bells and whistles. I really like the AutoClutch option. Accuset2 is also a good way to pickup a little production as well. I know the beds are the same, but I don't know how the hydraulics compare between the 35 and a standard hydraulic 40.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2014, 08:11:04 PM »
I have no experience with an LT35, but I have gradually added options to my LT40.   I added the auto clutch last year and I should not have waited that long.  It is a very worthwhile option.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 08:13:41 PM »
I just got the lt40 with the 35 horse gas, and lube miser upgrade.  I love the machine, and like the wider cut ability over the lt35.  When I was at Parson's Woodmizer, it appeared that the lt40 head was much beefier than the lt 35, and the added horsepower is nice.   If you saw the two machines side by side, the difference would be more obvious.  I still think the lt35 is an awesome machine, and have never heard any negative comments on it's performance. 
The 40 without upgrades, is probably about 8k more, and you'd have to "need" the bigger cut, to appreciate the difference. I think increased production is more likely to occur when based upon planning, maximum use of workspace, and the amount of "good" help available. ;D   
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 08:49:36 PM »
I looked at the LT-35 and the LT-40 HD (not super) side-by-side before I bought my mill a couple of years ago. The frame is the same, but as far as I could tell that is were the major similarities end.  The LT-40 can saw larger logs, has heavier duty up-down gear box and the motors that run the up-down, forward-reverse are also heavier duty. The debarker also follows that line.  Also.  You will be able to adjust the outer blade guide roller with the push of a toggle switch instead of the manually operated option on the LT-35.  I have no idea how the hydraulic capabilities compare, as the above reasons were enough for me to look for an LT-40. The 35 looked like a fantastic machine, but for long term production work the 40 will probably be faster and some components will last longer.

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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2014, 08:51:15 PM »
I don't think the difference is an issue of one being heavier built than the other. The LT40 just has a larger log capacity and more bells and whistles. I really like the AutoClutch option. Accuset2 is also a good way to pickup a little production as well. I know the beds are the same, but I don't know how the hydraulics compare between the 35 and a standard hydraulic 40.

Hi Dave,
From what I see the 40 has a stronger structure holding the head than the 35...To me it looks like the lthe lt28 head on the 35.
I can do without the auto clutch, but would order it if I did step up to the 40...I just dont like the thoughts of pushing it to the limit on the 35 if I do get busy with the hardwood.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2014, 08:58:11 PM »
If I were to upgrade , it would be to a 70, period.  lots more production potential.  the 40 super works, just can't drag back as much,
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2014, 09:34:09 PM »
Maybe not a lot by some standards but I have cut over 25mbf of hardwood since June on my 35, at least 15mbf of it dead dry hard ash.  Do you think you'll be THAT busy? 

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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2014, 10:06:53 PM »
I don't know much of the difference between a LT35 and a LT 40 but I do know that when I stepped up to the LT70 from a LT40 there was some increase in production due to log handling ability. I would think there should be that much of a increase from a 35 to 40.

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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2014, 10:14:03 PM »
I'm pretty sure the auto clutch is now a standard feature on the the 40's. I don't remember having to pay for an upgrade when I bought mine.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2014, 08:02:38 AM »
I own a 2013 lt35 and have cut about 65 mbf with it so far this year (got it in April), mixed hardwood and softwood. I have tailed for a couple of 40's and had an option to upgrade to a 40. I decided to stay with the 35. In my opinion the 40 has a much better debarker (I have the old style on my 35), the head is much heavier duty and there are more options you can add, the electric blade guide is nice, and the hydraulic tensioner is a nice upgrade. Plus you get an extra 4" of throat. 

I stayed with the 35 because I liked how easy the single post makes changing blades, the hydraulic speeds on the two machines are the same (I am pretty sure), and the cut speed is the same since the basic 40 does not have more horsepower. If I were going to upgrade I would upgrade to a machine with a larger engine, I dont see the other features of the 40 like lubmizer, blade guide, and debarker speeding things up a noticeable amount over the 35, at least not $8k faster. Overall I have been very pleased with the 35 and it is holding up very well. If I could get a 40 super for only 8k more though....

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2014, 04:14:46 PM »
I used to have an LT28 and upgraded to an LT40.  The LT35 is much like the LT28 head with some minor differences to the head structure for the drive and setworks.  The LT40 head is much different and I would definitely say more robust.  The main bed frame itself is more or less the same between the two(as well as the hydraulics).  There was a noticeable difference in head travel speed, the auto clutch certainly saves the shoulders, the debarker is better, and the blade tensioner is much more useful on the LT40.  The LT40 also has a drag-back option which is a real time-saver for me.  You can also upgrade to Accuset2 if you wish.  However, depending on what you are doing with your mill, the LT35 may be just fine.

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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2014, 05:03:38 PM »
My production is just fine at 200 bf a day ;D
It's not more production im looking for,'
Why would the build a 2 post head for the lt40 when the 35 is on the same bed as the 40 and it can only cut a extra 4".
I see the 2nd post gets in the way of the 40 when opening the door to change blades.
But that's good news from the 35 owners about there production.
I bet WM will offer a auto clutch for the lt35 some day.
I really just want to make sure the 35 will still be running strong 5 years down the road and not wish I went for the bad boy 40.
Thanks guys
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2014, 06:30:20 PM »
I don't see why the LT35 wouldn't work within it's specs for a very long time. Keep in mind the LT70 doesn't have two posts, it has a mast similar to the LT28/35, from what I can see. I would say that if the 35 is filling your needs right now, and isn't holding you back, that you should keep running it. If circumstances change, you can always upgrade to a 40 later. You might find that if you are doing well with the 35, you can save up enough to trade up to the 40 outright, or maybe you will want to go even bigger.
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Re: How much robust is the LT40 over the LT35
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2014, 07:22:17 AM »
I would say that the different models that sawmill builders offer is just a matter of them meeting their niche markets.  Everyone does not want or need chocolate or vanilla.  Some want strawberry.   :)
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