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Author Topic: Some pics of this years teak thinning  (Read 35511 times)

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2014, 11:28:26 PM »
very cool teakwood.  thanks for the pics and sharing a bit about your operation.  whereabouts are you in cr?  i've visited 2x and really enjoyed it, the coast was a bit hot for me but up in the mountains was wonderful.   :)  costa rica is on my short list for when i can retire and not have to spend 5 months indoors!  :D
I am way north in La Cruz, thats 10miles from the nicaraguan border. when you retire? your like the same age as i and i think we are far from retirement. :D At least i hope i can put a lower gear in after lets say 45 ;) when the trees and paychecks will be bigger.
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2014, 08:27:04 AM »
Great pics and I like your "work horse"
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2014, 11:04:20 AM »
Great pics and I like your "work horse"

..and the chainsaw carrier.   ;D

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2014, 08:44:50 PM »
Thanks guys. you have to be creative down here. Not so many stores around as in the u.s.  Choker and cable came from labonville. parts for the deere from the north (brakepads i bought in Canada) and all my Volvo parts came from a dealer in Miami.
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2014, 05:11:05 AM »
Thanks for the pictures.  Seeing that truck loaded by hand sure makes me appreciate hydraulics.  I would love to see that stand in a few years.
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2014, 02:41:28 PM »
Very impressive! You've done a very good job thinning your teak, I'm a bit jealous that you have the land to work on.

It would be nice to hear from crtreedude or if you want to update this thread you have a captive audience.

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2014, 03:56:47 PM »
Thanks guys, it was a lot of work over the past 10 years. I bought the finca in 2004 (120acres, 91acres i planted with teak in 05,06 and 07) The pics are from the 2007 part, so the youngest. When i bought the land it was still cheap, then a lot of rich americans, canadians and europeans raised the land prices in Costa Rica to the unpayable, (20,50or sometimes 100times what it was worth) In 2008 this market crashed and almost no land was sold since then, lots of people who bought in 06-09 lost a lot of money. I would say that land cost now 5times more than in 2004, so i was lucky there. teak is a good business but its very long term. you invest 10years before you see the first $ and maybe 15years to break even! But after that it gets intersting.
Its nice to have good feedback from same class peoples!  :)
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2014, 12:47:23 PM »
I would say that land cost now 5times more than in 2004, so i was lucky there. teak is a good business but its very long term. you invest 10years before you see the first $ and maybe 15years to break even! But after that it gets intersting.
Its nice to have good feedback from same class peoples!  :)

That's a lot faster than even my Douglas-fir in Western Oregon.  I had no idea Teak grew so fast.
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2014, 01:01:41 PM »
crtreedude used to post pics of what he was doing down there. I think at one point he bought something like 8 Baker 18M mills to process his trees. Not sure if it was teak, but they were very fast growing. Haven't heard from him, or our other CR transplant in some time. :(
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2014, 03:48:59 PM »
Geez,
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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2014, 06:54:25 PM »
Teak is fast in the first 10years, up to 12-14", from 10-20years (could get to 18-20") and with 30 years (up to 24-26") but the conditions have to be perfect. On my 91acres, about 30 acres are exelent, 30acres are good and the other 30 are like very slow growing (after 10years, 4-8" dbh) of course the slower growing wood is a lot better than the fast growing in quality, density. Most teak companys cant wait until 20 years, they cut after 15years (and then replant) because they have a lot of employes and costs. I hope that i can let my trees grown until 25-30years, then you are talking value of the wood.
 I will give some examples: 1m3 (0.28cords) of unsawed logs (8' long pieces):

6" = 50$
8" = 94$
10"= 190$
12"= 250$
14"= 300$
16"= 370$
20"= 520$
and those prices are for the same volume!!!! (1m3) So you can see, the bigger the diameter (older trees) the more interesting it gets.



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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2014, 07:03:44 PM »
So, if you wait 30 years, could you get maybe six 8' sticks out of one tree?  And would the tree be worth around $4,000-5,000? 8)
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2014, 07:16:32 PM »
wow!  patience pays

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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2014, 07:37:33 PM »
So, if you wait 30 years, could you get maybe six 8' sticks out of one tree?  And would the tree be worth around $4,000-5,000? 8)
Not exactly:  Those prices are for one cubic meter! so one stick of 20", 8' long will give me 0.5m3, so i need two pieces to get a cubic meter.
After 30 years lets say that a good tree will give me eight 8' sticks: first stick 20" (0.5m3,260$), second stick 18" (0.33m3, 150$), third stick 16" (0.28m3,100$),......, last stick 6" (0.032m3, 2$). so if you ad all the volumes of all sticks it could give 1.5-1.8m3. So between 500-800$ maybe, its not an exact sience.
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2014, 03:01:10 PM »
so between 5-800 a tree  :o    if so I think im going to plant some teak  :D thanks for sharing  your info

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2014, 04:21:12 PM »
the best trees will bring that, but i think there will be a lot of 200$ trees too. until they are 30 years old, just 120 will be remaining per hectare (about 45 per acre) after all thinnings.
Teak dont grow where you live guys, sorry!  ;)
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2014, 05:35:08 PM »
the best trees will bring that, but i think there will be a lot of 200$ trees too. until they are 30 years old, just 120 will be remaining per hectare (about 45 per acre) after all thinnings.
Teak dont grow where you live guys, sorry!  ;)
if we make a big enough  green house they should :D  :D

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2015, 07:12:16 AM »
crtreedude used to post pics of what he was doing down there. I think at one point he bought something like 8 Baker 18M mills to process his trees. Not sure if it was teak, but they were very fast growing. Haven't heard from him, or our other CR transplant in some time. :(

Yep, still alive, just saw this marked. We are still down here. Just read this thread with interest.

So, how did I end up here anyway?

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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2019, 07:33:11 PM »
Remember this thread? It's time for the next thinning in the same areas. second commercial thinning at the 12th year. I will try to make fotos from the same points so you can compare the growth we have on teak.


This is how we loaded in 2014


Look what i found! that grapple was laying around near the office of the big neighbor teakcompany. the CEO wouldn't sell half year ago, i ask again, the maintenance chief told me: go pick that thing up and look if you can get her working, she was laying in the whether for 2 years. so he prefers that i take care of her and use her, later we will talk business. Sadly the rotor is missing. how much is such a grapple in the north and how much would a used rotator for this size be? It's from a 22to wheel excavator, mine is a 30to crawler excavator.

poor old Hilux, that thing must a weight 700kilos

connected to the hammer/sheer piping, if i get a rotator i will have to enable the bucket piping


still have to turn by hand but sure beats the hell out of loading by hand!



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Re: Some pics of this years teak thinning
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2019, 10:56:05 AM »
 I built a pin and bushing for the grapple on my tractor loader, has a pin to lock it straight or at 90.



 

 I use to machine to turn the grapple, it's a little slower than a rotor but most times I run this position and it works great.


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