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« on: March 08, 2016, 07:18:04 PM »
Finally ordered the l53 today now to decide if I'm going to pour slab or frame a floor ? My initial plan was to build chamber to dry 16 foot material but after talking to Stan with nyle I think about 12 foot. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 07:31:21 PM »
Personally I would built such, that I could move it or sell it in the future should I want a larger unit.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 08:11:13 PM »
You must be happy with the new kiln on the way 8)
I too would frame the floor and put it on 8x8 skids.
Then you can move it around if needed.
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 08:42:31 PM »
No matter how wide you make it, someone is going to want lumber that is 2' longer  :).

You just have to draw a line in the sand (old saying).
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 12:31:41 AM »
Remember you will have to baffle the sides so it needs to be tight to your stacks.  What size do you normally produce?  Kilns don't really lend themselves to random length wood. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 05:49:03 AM »
If you are going to want to dry 12 ft lengths you better make it 13 ft or a little longer inside measurements.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 08:15:17 PM »
Hey Joey...u guys get away with murder down there.. I'm jealous!!! Frost line? What's that? I'd frame it as mentioned. Up here, no choice... Concrete pad to start. My redneck kiln had a framed floor, and I'm constantly string lining bases before I stack...it always changes, never stops, tired if fighting...concrete pad is in the future?!!
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 09:06:09 PM »
A flat floor is your friend, and that's most easily achieved with concrete.  If you are drying grade lumber, especially.  If the floor moves, dips, sags or ripples, the result is the same in the lumber. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2016, 09:13:46 PM »
We usally cut 8-10-12 foot lengths I think we are going with the concrete pad foundation .I'll probably make a end  baffle for any pack under 12 foot. One thing I want to use kiln for is drying cypress to 15% for exterior siding .I've missed out on lots of orders because I couldn't keep enough air dry materal in stock .How long should 4/4cypress take from green to 15%?
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2016, 10:39:26 PM »
Probably about 60 days depending on season.  Would go faster with fans. 
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2016, 10:43:23 PM »
Hey Joey...u guys get away with murder down there.. I'm jealous!!! Frost line? What's that? I'd frame it as mentioned. Up here, no choice... Concrete pad to start. My redneck kiln had a framed floor, and I'm constantly string lining bases before I stack...it always changes, never stops, tired if fighting...concrete pad is in the future?!!


If you made a really stout floor out of very large timbers, do you think that it would stay flat even with the frost moving it?
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2016, 10:45:43 PM »
He does not have to worry about frost heave in Moundville, AL.  Heat heave, maybe  :D.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2016, 09:47:13 PM »
I meant how long to dry 4/4 cypress in the kiln from green to 15%?
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 07:21:18 AM »
Maybe a week, maybe a little less if you don't sterilize the load. 
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 07:26:00 AM »
Sinker cypress,, which comes from the butt log and is much higher in MC than the rest of the tree (called sinker because the high MC means that the logs will not float in water) takes longer.  Sinker is more prone to checking and takes longer.  Thicker takes longer...1.0" compared to 1-1/8 for 4/4.  A higher initial MC takes longer.  Green-from-the-saw takes longer compared to air dried, even if air dried for a few warm days.  Drying so that the driest piece is 15% MC and the rest is above that is shorter, but drying so that the wettest is 15% MC and the rest drier takes longer.  If you want the driest pieces to be no drier than 13% MC and the wettest no higher than 15% MC, this takes longer.  So what exactly do you have and want?

Keep in mind that cypress, especially sinker, is prone to checking if dried too fast.  We cannot dry it as fast as pine...maybe 1/4 the speed.

Overall, you might be looking at 2 to 4 weeks, but it depends...
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Re: nyle l53
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2016, 07:32:30 AM »
In my L53, I can dry green pine to 7 - 8% in 8 days. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2016, 08:05:08 PM »
Hey Joey...u guys get away with murder down there.. I'm jealous!!! Frost line? What's that? I'd frame it as mentioned. Up here, no choice... Concrete pad to start. My redneck kiln had a framed floor, and I'm constantly string lining bases before I stack...it always changes, never stops, tired if fighting...concrete pad is in the future?!!


If you made a really stout floor out of very large timbers, do you think that it would stay flat even with the frost moving it?
Sadly, 4x4, no...and where I live, if anyone tells you different, they are flat out wrong. Statewide footer code for frostline here is 36"... The last two winters have had some crazy record breaking lows, for a long time... So IMO, our frostline here in PA should be updated to more like central/northern NY, 42"... Depending on where you're at. I've seen plenty of stuff move at 36" here...
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2016, 06:15:20 AM »
Danny, how many BF of 4/4 green pine can you load in the kiln to dry in a week.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2016, 08:11:44 AM »
400 BF. 
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