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Re: Getting Logs for the WM
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2018, 06:46:38 AM »
The portable has its advantages. Hence the word portable. I can snatch a 30x20 foot log like a tooth pick if I can get to it with my bad land 12000 lb winch but I only have 50' of cable. Nathan u can take that thing any where. I stresses my altanator so bad on my last load it was putting out 16.5 amps. Next purchase will be 2 1000amp  deep cycle rv batteries lucky the Chevy z71 comes stock with Bosch 160amp alternator. For smaller logs u can't go wrong with the portable and with a snatch block u can go bigger.

 
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Re: Getting Logs for the WM
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2018, 10:25:12 AM »
Nathan,
I like all your videos.  This one has me thinking seriously of buying the portable winch.  It will pay for itself on that otherwise inaccessible downed tree in the woods. 

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Re: Getting Logs for the WM
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2018, 03:44:34 PM »
I have the same portable capstan winch with the honda engine, got it with my Logrite fetching arch.  I think Logrite sold them at the time not sure.  It's a great winch.  Pull a log with your little finger on the rope if you want,.

I wouldn't want  to have the rope break when pulling. Definitely could be an eye hazard if not worse. I suppose any recoil or whiplash would depend on what kind of rope.   I always wear a chainsaw helmet and keep the customer way off from the line of pull. The rope I have is in good condition and I am not very afraid of it breaking as in my experience the winch stalls out if the load is too great for it.  But look out, just saying.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2018, 11:58:19 PM »
It's is my understanding that if you use the recommended rope, double braided I think it is, that there is very little recoil if/when the rope brakes. I've seen these winches used but never seen the rope brake so I still would stand to the side.
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Re: Getting Logs for the WM
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2018, 07:18:41 AM »
You can buy special rope that has no recoil but it's expensive. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2018, 08:24:22 AM »
A 7/16 static kernmantle rope like we use in rope rescue will cost about $1.50 per foot and have a tested breaking strength of about 7,000 lbs.  Static means it doesnt stretch much, but will stretch some.  It just doesnt stretch like the dynamic ropes that climbers use.  The 7000 breaking strength does not account for knots.  Knots weaken the rope and the amount depends on the knot and the number of them.  Whats good about the winch is that you only need one knot to use it.  A figure 8 knot will break at about 80% of the ropes strength.
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2018, 12:14:08 PM »
So I'm thinking with a 2,200 lb. winch there will be no issues, no even doubled. At least not until the rope is pretty well worn. 
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 12:27:31 PM »
Right.  Clearly you have better than double safety margin.  With kernmantle rope, the braided parts on the outside are just Protection for the core which is where the strength.  Abrasions to the outer layer are ok, but you have to look for damage to the inner part, sometimes seen as loops of that sticking out thru the outer.  Terminology lesson.....the kern is the inner part and the mantle is the outer part.
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