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Hudson Badger
« on: March 05, 2018, 08:42:25 PM »
 Hi folks, I have been looking into a firewood processor mostly for cutting and splitting my own firewood. I am also considering processing for other to help pay for the machine. I have cut and split wood for most of my life and enjoy it but am looking to make life a bit easier. I use about 20 face cord a year to heat my home. I have been looking at the Hudson Badger as it seems about right for my needs. Also I am only about 1 1/2 hr from them. I would like to hear about your experiences and opinions of these machines.

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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2018, 08:12:23 AM »
No offense, but you may want to put a pencil to how much it would cost to buy firewood versus the cost of a processor.  For example, $520 would buy 4 full cords of cut, split, and delivered Oak which would last me the winter... with the no labor...

I penciled out buying a small processor to run the wood I use plus 20-50 full cord for sale and couldn't make it work with an acceptable return on labor.

The caveat is your location dictates firewood prices, and you didn't list your location...  Also depends on what you are willing to accept for your own labor.  
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 11:18:51 AM »
The financial part will never make sense for the smaller machines. That is not a knock on Hud-Son  but just a fact of life and why the commercial processors spend 3 times that at minimum for a machine productive enough to pay out. Last I knew that was  a $16,000 machine which will, as the poster said purchase a big bunch of firewood. But you probably know all that and just want to  run your own wood without killing your back or bank account? I have been there ;D.  Probably the thing you most need to know is they are not productive and save little labor unless you add some support equipment.  You need to cut and trim the logs just so-so so they feed without a struggle. You need to align the logs with the chute, you need to get the wood away from it. A tractor with loader and conveyor will soon be high on the want list if you dont already have them. I highly recommend a trip to a logging show where you actually watch them run. It will open your eyes to many things that are not evident in the  factory supplied videos or scanning you tube.
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 01:13:01 AM »
      I am well aware of the finances and worked all that out. I have tractors with loaders and trailers to move wood. Like I said I have cut wood all my life. What I am asking for is opinions of people who have actually had experience with the Hudson Badger firewood processor, just a simple question.

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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 07:03:22 AM »
Look below at "similar topics".
Frequently a posted topic will tend to drift,it is all part of the conversational nature of the forum.If you expect a direct answer right off you will most likely not get it.Be patient,grits,rocks and old sayings and yooper night haven't been mentioned yet.It seems we all suffer from ADD.
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2018, 08:57:53 AM »
     I am well aware of the finances and worked all that out. I have tractors with loaders and trailers to move wood. Like I said I have cut wood all my life. What I am asking for is opinions of people who have actually had experience with the Hudson Badger firewood processor, just a simple question.
Cant argue with any of that, Apologies
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2018, 11:57:34 AM »

@jordy806 

I saw your reply and knew you must be new here.  We are not rude with other members.  We do not follow a "keep on topic" mentality.

If all you want is information without interaction, use the search function.  You aren't off to a good start. 

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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 12:48:19 PM »
You need to go to the shows and check them all out...I do not like processors because your logs need to be straight-most of the junk i split is short mean stuff.
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 05:12:45 PM »
Yes; the straighter the better. However I had a load of purchased nasty dirty mainly maple logs delivered in June. At the time I transitioned from a splitter to a Bell 1000 processor. The logs were about 9' long. I thought I'd be struggling to feed them and worse sharpening constantly. I was wrong on both counts. They fed well and still on the original chain. I do 30 bush cords a year. Light touch ups by hand on chain. 2 years now. 8)
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 06:56:16 PM »

@jordy806

I saw your reply and knew you must be new here.  We are not rude with other members.  We do not follow a "keep on topic" mentality.

If all you want is information without interaction, use the search function.  You aren't off to a good start.
Roxie, I am new here, but not to other forums.I read the similar topics and was looking for any updated information on that particular machine. I didnt think I would have to get into extensive explaination about finances first. I didn't ask about that. I am no less rude to others than they are to me.

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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 10:57:17 PM »
Jordy, what you are maybe not understanding is that when you ask a question on this forum, the discussion that ensues is not just for your benefit. It is for the benefit of the whole forum and anyone else that is trying to learn about these subjects that may be reading.
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 06:39:42 AM »
Roxie, I am new here, but not to other forums.
"Other forums" breed responses like yours and it doesn't raise your status one iota. 
Members commented on the price of the machine to give you a heads up.  If you don't want to talk finances, just ignore it, as you did the question about where you're located. 
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2018, 07:07:58 AM »
Roxie, I am new here, but not to other forums.
"Other forums" breed responses like yours and it doesn't raise your status one iota.  
Members commented on the price of the machine to give you a heads up.  If you don't want to talk finances, just ignore it, as you did the question about where you're located.
Thumbs up,
I came here from other places to escape the know it alls (politely speaking) and insider groups that dominate other places.  Good bunch of helpful people here if you give them half a chance to do so.
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2018, 08:27:45 AM »
Jordy, my reply was not intended to be rude, nor do I troll.

I get a reputation as a contrarian because when I see things that don't seem to align, I ask questions.

It seems the smaller end of the processor market is a very niche thing.  Most people gravitate toward a big processor as a business, hire a medium/big processor to run through a log pile, build a homemade processor, buy firewood, or process by hand.  The smaller ones just donít have the throughput to justify the cost in my analysis. 
 
I process the 8 cord (bush cord? 4*4*8 ) we use and a few to sell by hand, but Iím also putting together a simple homemade processor.  I think Iíll have $2k in it when complete, but it will significantly reduce the bending and manual labor portion.  Design is based on a forum member who uses it to cut a ridiculous amount of firewood.  (At least a good size barn full.)
 
Iím not saying that Hudson isnít good.  Iíve looked pretty hard at Hudson products and may buy some when Iím ready and can justify purchase.  There are probably people on the site that have a Badger, but I canít think of anyone offhand.  Iím just questioning the economics before someone plunks down the purchase price of a new car when things said imply that money matters on their purchase (processing for others to defray cost).
 
In the end though, if you like it, want it, and have the money, then go for it. 
 
As a peace offering (and to show Iím really not trying to be a ****), here are the only relevant Hudson Badger references I can find on the forum.  (One includes 11 pages worth of other discussion about processors.)
 
http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=74630.msg1149746#msg1149746
http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=72970.msg1103669#msg1103669
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Re: Hudson Badger
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2018, 10:06:49 AM »
About three years ago I went threw the same process as Jordy is going threw. I burn 10 to 20 full cords of wood a year and my help pool for doing that was drying up. I cut wood on my own land to clean up farms we have purchased over the years. I cut most of my trees down with a bobcat and a hyd saw on it and brush it out. I mostly save hedge and locust logs for fire wood and the rest goes to the brush pile and gets burned. I started looking at processors and wanted to spent $10,000 to $20,000 max. I looked at all of the smaller processors in my price range and they all had the same problem they weren't going to cut the wood I needed cut 24" to 36".There were a lot of used smaller ones for sale at that time as I think most people buy them and try to produce firewood to sell and it doesn't work. If you have nice long smaller sized logs I think you can save body and make firewood. Jordy good luck on the quest.


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