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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2018, 10:49:47 PM »
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Melatonin's main job in the body is to regulate night and day cycles or sleep-wake cycles. Darkness causes the body to produce more melatonin, which signals the body to prepare for sleep. Light decreases melatonin production and signals the body to prepare for being awake. Some people who have trouble sleeping have low levels of melatonin. It is thought that adding melatonin from supplements might help them sleep.
Certainly worth a try. Poor sleep can be caused by all sorts of things, like side effects of medications etc. If you aren't getting good sleep it also affects your health and mental state as well. 
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2018, 11:41:08 AM »
The thing is, I don't have trouble going to sleep and sleeping. Its the waking up part. I wake up several times a night, but that has a direct relationship to what and how much I was drinking in the afternoon and evening. It is also related to what I am eating. Anything with MSG is like a diuretic to me. I'm also one of those individuals that if there is some weird side effect to a medication, I get it, so, its better for me not to take anything. The more natural I eat, meat vegetables fruit and potatoes home cooked, and no prepared foods, the better I do, however, none of it seems to have any relationship to the sleep paralysis.  Believe me, I'm trying all different combinations. To be a bit contrary, this is one of those things I WOULD wish on a worst enemy.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2018, 01:28:01 PM »
If I end up on my back, it can be almost guaranteed to occur.

Do you get a back ache when you lay on your back?

Do you feel uncomfortable when you have to get up in the night for a bathroom break?

One thing I've learned from my wife going thru sleep apnea and memory problems is the brain needs to rest and recover while you sleep. Any pain or stress that you endure during sleep can cause the brain to work and process pain or other stress signals and not be able to rest and recover.

So it's an easy solution, eliminate the stress. ::)
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 04:00:40 PM »
Do you get a back ache when you lay on your back?
 

I refuse to sleep on my back so I could not say.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2018, 07:34:55 PM »
Some of your descriptions sound like an X-files episode.

I've had a couple similar episodes in my life. My recollection was that I was more on the asleep end of the spectrum than Jeff is, but I was somewhat aware of what was going on around me and while logically I knew it wasn't real, logic was not enough to convince me. and did not experience any real transition from sleep to awake when it ended.

In one I was sure some shadowy being had paralyzed me and was trying to pry my soul out of my body. I was lying on my stomach and he was pulling at my shoulders. I was trying as hard as I could to throw it off but could not move. I could not even yell at it. I'm not a particularly religious person, but became convinced that if I could manage to get out the Lord's Prayer, it would have no power over me.

In my other episode, I was more on the "asleep" end of the spectrum. Again, I was lying on may stomach and could not move. I remember trying to say something, and trying to get this thing off of me. The next thing I know my wife was yelling "whoa!" and jumping to the edge of the bed. Apparently, she had heard me muttering and sounding angry. She asked what was up, and I did not answer, just kept up the angry muttering. She reached over and grabbed my shoulder to shake me awake. I guess she must have shook me right where the thing was grabbing me, because the paralysis broke, I rolled a bit and jerked my arm back ready to swing with a big punch. She jumped, and then I was wide awake. I remember asking her "what's bugging you?"  As she explained, the memories all came flooding back to me.

Two of the weirdest things I ever experienced while sleeping (or almost sleeping). It happened more than 15 years ago (i.e. before kids). I had forgotten all about it until I read Jeff's post.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2018, 09:04:24 PM »
I have a friend who suffers from this too, Jeff. He has since at least his early teens, and it seems to come and go in occurrence. He will also wake up paralyzed, sometimes he can very weakly whisper his wife's name, and she will reach over and touch his arm. He then snaps out of it immediately. I've also heard interesting stories on public radio about this affliction, and it had some interesting history. Such as the term "nightmare". In some traditions, the shadowy figure you have mentioned was called "the hag", if I remember correctly, they said "mare" in old English was a term for woman, so "nightmare" was when the hag came and tormented you at night. I wish I could remember the name of the program, it was quite informative but it's been a few years since I heard it.
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2018, 09:13:56 PM »
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2018, 01:50:38 AM »
I've read about them before but never have known anyone that has them, or atleast that talks about them. I imagine no improvement since the last post?

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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2019, 07:28:34 PM »
Been really bad lately. Two instances last night, the second time with hallucinations. Kinda avoiding going  to bed tonight.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2019, 07:49:45 PM »
These are the shortest days, any correlation? If so daylight lamps? I was kinda hoping this post was going to say it was over.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2019, 07:53:14 PM »
I think my triggers last night was because we had to be gone in the afternoon and evening and ate a very late supper. Like 9:00.  I remember the last multi episode night i had done the same.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2019, 08:20:38 PM »
I have seen a few episodes of paralysis.  Some are after a seizure and called Todds paralysis.  Another is a weird thyroid condition in certain ancestries and if you eat carbohydrate, it drives potassium into your cells and the muscles do not work with low serum K+.  We do sedations with a drug called Ketamine and it induces a dissociative state and things like setting a bone in your broken arm seem like a dream.  Some kids wake up half asleep and half awake and it is like  a night terror.  Not sure what all is going on but a good sleep center should be able to diagnose more than just sleep apnea.  I am not trying to be a smarty pants, and this is not my area of expertise, so I would follow up with your sleep medicine Dr.  I started as a Respiratory therapist to work my way through shcool in the 1980s, and did sleep studies when they first became a thing.  You need to prob. go to a center where they have seen it all.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2019, 01:17:39 PM »
My unsurance is such that they would not approve a full study last year when requested because of the first home study results. Ive worsened since then. I do have a covered wellness exam coming up where perhaps i can get some help.
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2019, 01:18:36 PM »
Btw, unsurance is my term for next to worthless coverage.
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2019, 01:40:31 PM »
Hopefully the Dr. will be on your side.  The home stuff is to screen for sleep apnea, looking for hypoxic episodes.  There is definitely some medical issues to look at besides OSA.  Good Luck.

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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2019, 08:07:25 AM »
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Re: Sleep Paralysis
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2019, 05:28:57 PM »
My wife (36yo) has sleep paralysis. She isn't able to talk at all, but if she can will anything on her body to move, or if someone else touches her, she wakes out of it immediately. She has to stay awake for a while after because she will go right back into that state if she falls back asleep too quickly. It frightens her quite a bit. She says that even something as small as my breathing moving against her is enough to wake her up. In the dream she'll be screaming and throwing herself around trying to wake up but can't. 

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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2019, 05:37:19 PM »
Beleive her, it can be terrifying. In all my research, ive not found a documented case where they can verbally communicate like i do.
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2019, 08:24:19 PM »
I can verify that Jeff can communicate and can summon help.  Once I did not quite get him awake and he told me "more" so I popped him on the shoulder a few more times to get him fully awake.  Also his first words are always "thank you" indicating that he is aware that he needs waking up and is grateful to be out of the paralyzed state.

What I have read is that it is not harmful to the person, just terrifying.
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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2019, 08:27:59 PM »
I just watched, well most of, as i was getting a bit unnerved as much of it was hitting to close to home, a documentary on Netflix called "The Nightmare." It was not helpful, as least for today its not, as it left me with the same dred of going back to sleep as an actual episode.
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