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3 pth grapple/winch
« on: April 01, 2018, 08:43:17 PM »
Any experiences with grapple/winch combos? It looks to me like the best of both worlds. Probably 60-70% of the logs I gather I can grab with a clamp. But I do have some that I need a winch to retrieve. I am gathering firewood and some saw logs. My property has been logged years ago, the logging trails are still in good shape.

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 08:46:33 PM »
What is it on?
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 10:04:13 PM »
I have a grapple stump bucket with a winch ontop for my bobcat and its what you expect.. Grab whats easy with grapple, and what aint with a choker.  
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 12:44:01 PM »
Check in with forum sponsor Farma.They sell Krpan grapples made in Slovenia.Very well made and good folks to deal with.They are located in Waterloo,Quebec
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 01:13:59 AM »
my two cents.
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 08:45:16 AM »
I had one for many years and in the right setting they work great.                                                      For gathering firewood and a few saw logs it should work fine.

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 09:06:20 PM »
I have three tractors, two old belarus which I like to use in the bush because they are old belarus tractors. However I tend to use my new MF 2635, much better to handle in the bush area, but I don't like driving the new tractor in the bush. If I had a winch I would probable use the MF more often, because I could stick to the skidder trails. 
I like the idea of towing out 5-8 trees at a time, but I mostly log in the winter and I don't think any of the tractors would haul more then 4-5 medium size maples at a time. I figure I can haul 3-4 trees in a grapple, even if I only haul 2-3 at a time I think it would be quicker because I would not be getting on and off the tractor so many times. Less on and off the tractor would also be safer. That being said I do know winches are far more available. 

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 07:47:04 PM »
Here's mine.
   

How do you post a bigger pic?

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 07:57:23 PM »
I can only see a thumbnail on your pics.. Any idea why?  Would really like a closer look. 
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 08:00:49 PM »
How do I post it full size?

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2018, 08:09:39 PM »
A better question is how the heck did you post a thumbnail?  Have you watched the video on how to post photos?
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2018, 08:12:16 PM »
I just "click & drug" from "my gallery" Jeff, where's the video?
I'm more of a reader than a talker here. :D

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2018, 08:35:30 PM »
I found the video, let's see if......

nope, clicking ''add to post" get's me no where, again. That's how I ended up dragging the thumbnail to my reply.

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2018, 08:40:05 PM »
Watch the video and follow she instructions exactly. It will work. You must open the gallery from your post.
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2018, 08:57:27 PM »
I hate computers (because I can barely turn the EDITED BY ADMIN thing on).

but I did build this contraption.




Well I clicked on the image in my gallery then "drag" it into my reply. 8)

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2018, 09:03:56 PM »
A little closer look



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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2018, 09:17:35 PM »
Boy that gets it done, nice work.  Something similar planned for my dozer if i can ever get the parts i have sitting up north (and fix reverse)


Whats with the telescopic tube?  Just cylinder protection?   Its not a squirt boom is it? 
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2018, 09:46:10 PM »
Now that's a machine!! How many hp you got there? Looks like a grapple on the front too.
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2018, 07:46:56 AM »



Whats with the telescopic tube?  Just cylinder protection?  
You got it Mike!




Before I decided (actually my wife ;D) to add the grapple & rotator my plan was to hitch to the butt plate while lowered, short chain, then lift the hitch & swing the plate. This puts the log over 3' off the ground. I was concerned that pulling from "up high" by the cable might be too high and too far back for my tractor. 

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2018, 08:02:27 AM »
Now that's a machine!! How many hp you got there? Looks like a grapple on the front too.
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2018, 09:00:03 AM »
You better hang on to that woman.  Clever way to make the telescope.
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2018, 10:11:37 PM »
A little closer look
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I hate computers (because I can barely turn the EDITED BY ADMIN thing on).
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but I did build this contraption.


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Well I clicked on the image in my gallery then "drag" it into my reply. 8)



Thatís a fabulous piece of equipment. I would love one of those. Best of both worlds

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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2018, 07:36:18 AM »
I can't tell from the pics but does that rig use a full under carriage frame or are you picking the weight just using the top link? If just the top link, be careful how much you lift, I heard of at least one tractor in the 120 HP range break in half using a 3 point hitch back hoe, too much pull on the top link and the tranny broke where it bolted to the bell housing.
We used to pull lots of stems using a Fransgard V4000 on a 70 HP Belarus. Crude shifting but monsterous pulling capacity. We limbed them and then pulled 4-6 tree length stems, mostly soft maple (with some ash) out. Usually had bucket on front filled with blocks to help hold it down, plus had full suitcase bracket too. After that, we switched to a single horse in the wetter areas. We also had home built duals on the front, tractor front tire then a 8x20 truck snow off an old F600
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2018, 04:51:45 PM »
Pics!
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Re: 3 pth grapple/winch
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 09:26:10 PM »
I can't tell from the pics but does that rig use a full under carriage frame or are you picking the weight just using the top link? If just the top link, be careful how much you lift, I heard of at least one tractor in the 120 HP range break in half using a 3 point hitch back hoe, too much pull on the top link and the tranny broke where it bolted to the bell housing.

I built a hyd. top link to help the grapple's "travel" arc. I'm counting on that or the single braid hoses to being the weak link.  :o  I'm only gathering firewood from thinning my 10 year old logged fairly hard woods so I'm dealing with small stems.


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