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Re: Ticks natural remedy
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2018, 08:30:49 AM »
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Your post is correct.  Lyme disease is as you state and not an autoimmune disease by itself.  It's a bacterial infection.  But what is still very poorly understood is the body's reaction to Lyme disease, which does mean that the immune system can be involved.  In some patients, symptoms persist which appear to be of an autoimmune nature.  Whether this is a chronic infection (possibly inadequately treated), a recurrent latent re-infection, or the body's response (immune system) to the original infection is not clear.  But rest assured, some patients have very strange and confusing presentations following Lyme Disease, usually involving joint pain or nerve dysfunction.  Long term antibiotics seem to help some of these patients, but not all.

I do not know this to be a medical fact, but I have been told that the actual bite of the tick usually does not occur for a minimum of 24 hours after the little bugger gets to you.  A habit of showering immediately after outside exposure to tick world with a conscious effort to really scrub those areas they seek out...belt line, hair line, back, behind the ears....is all part of wise prevention.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2018, 10:48:20 AM »
Yes doctorb, my brother in law had all the symptoms of Lyme some 10+ years ago and his HMO refused to allow the tests because Lyme was not prevalent in the area he lived. However he had acquired the unseen tick bite while spending two weeks at his cabin in NW WI. He was left undiagnosed for months and suffered fevers and joint pain until he found a different doctor who sent special blood samples to the Mayo Clinic where they said his infection levels were off their scales. After that test, he was treated twice with different antibiotics before he was supposedly cured of the disease but symptoms have lingered to this day.

Some years ago he was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and has suffered ongoing pain all over, plus both knees replaced, a back surgery, a heart surgery and another pending. He survives on an astonishing mix of pain pills and other medications. The problem is that Fibromyalgia is not a disease, it is just a collection of symptoms that probably are the lingering effects of a long untreated Lyme infection. Both he and I have taken the Lyme prevention shots when they were available and we both have been tested for lingering infections with negative results. I suspect that after one has had the disease and/or the shots that the tests are unreliable.

My defense for ticks when in season and I am working in tick country is to wear the light weight versions of Under Armor securely tucked into my socks which creates an unbroken path of resistance all the way to my neck. I can usually feel the dirty buggers crawling on my neck and head and pick them of and give them the pliers treatment. Then I check the insides of my pants and shirt plus send both to the wash at night. It's not a foolproof plan but it works for me.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2018, 10:00:59 PM »
My wife had a routine doctor appointment this past week, I asked her to ask the doc for a prescription of doxycycline for medicine cabinet stock, we've both had run ins with lyme, her severely. The doc agreed saying she had seen more lyme last year than all previous years. She also said the latest CDC recommendation is to take 2 immediately if bitten and then self monitor. I had heard the same advice repeated by my employer from a conversation he had with a doctor last summer.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2018, 11:35:32 PM »
Don - 

You can get doxy without a script, it's sold as "Bird Biotic", exact same thing, same color, shape, and numerical markings as the stuff the pharmacy fills, it has to be made in the same facility, just put into a cheaper bottle.  
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2018, 11:28:01 AM »
Tick bites too numerous for me to count. I have a large yard to mow surrounded by trees. Pasture to mow and I enjoy my morning walks through the cool forest.

Loggers sometimes splash diesel on their shoes and pant legs to repel them. I might like getting bite better than the diesel. The hippies that used to live in the woods wore dog flea and tick collars. Haven't seen many of them for a long long time.

Last month the news has stated we have been honored by the presence of a new immigrant from east Asia. It's called the longhorn tick. Only three other states besides us have it. ???
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2018, 08:34:48 AM »
Larry,

   Back in my active USMC days we had troops who tried the dog collar trick and our medical team advised us to stop it if we saw them in use. The chemicals in the collars have to get into the skin and they are dangerous to people so it was a case of the cure being deemed worse than the disease. DEET still seems to be the number one recommendation from my medical counterparts to repel ticks and mosquitoes and I worked in a lot of malarial areas.
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2018, 10:19:41 AM »
Im on my 3rd day of vomit/diarrhea/achy all over.  It came on one day after a lonestar bite but my 1st grade daughter also had some kinda lesser tummy bug days prior.  I have seemed to have the occasional tick bite wipe me out in the past but never like this.  

Any thoughts if theyre related?
 
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2019, 03:11:42 AM »
Lyme Facts:

You can not cure Lyme with drugs after the first 48 hours of being bitten.

Once bit and as soon as it injects you, you can get it, not in 24 hours. They are keeping from the public that you can get it from many other sources including mosquitoes.  

Once you have it, your goal is to get it into dormancy. You will need to take tons of vitamins.

It's an auto-immune disease.

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Deet, wow when did they allow that poison again since they outlawed it in the 70's because it changes your DNA???

Because Lyme is an autoimmune disease, chemicals are far worse for you than anything natural.
Sorry but there is little there that is fact.  (Image hidden from quote, click to view.)

Lyme Disease is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and is transmitted to humans through the bite of infected blacklegged ticks. It causes an infection and NOT an autoimmune disease. The resulting infection is difficult to cure because the Borrelia burgdorferi is a bacteria that has some unique abilities to hide in the soft tissues of your body and is hard to kill with normal blood born antibiotics because it can hide away from the blood stream.
It is because the bacteria is able to survive in the soft tissue that it's hard to kill with an ordinary course of antibiotics if it is not caught early.
Yes correct it is a bacteria, that destroys your immune system. That's why it is classified as an autoimmune disease. Also, it doesn't just hide in the soft tissue, mostly it hides in the organs. While there, it causes a lot of damage as well as disease.

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2019, 03:23:15 AM »
Yes doctorb, my brother in law had all the symptoms of Lyme some 10+ years ago and his HMO refused to allow the tests because Lyme was not prevalent in the area he lived. However he had acquired the unseen tick bite while spending two weeks at his cabin in NW WI. He was left undiagnosed for months and suffered fevers and joint pain until he found a different doctor who sent special blood samples to the Mayo Clinic where they said his infection levels were off their scales. After that test, he was treated twice with different antibiotics before he was supposedly cured of the disease but symptoms have lingered to this day.

Some years ago he was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and has suffered ongoing pain all over, plus both knees replaced, a back surgery, a heart surgery and another pending. He survives on an astonishing mix of pain pills and other medications. The problem is that Fibromyalgia is not a disease, it is just a collection of symptoms that probably are the lingering effects of a long untreated Lyme infection. Both he and I have taken the Lyme prevention shots when they were available and we both have been tested for lingering infections with negative results. I suspect that after one has had the disease and/or the shots that the tests are unreliable.

My defense for ticks when in season and I am working in tick country is to wear the light weight versions of Under Armor securely tucked into my socks which creates an unbroken path of resistance all the way to my neck. I can usually feel the dirty buggers crawling on my neck and head and pick them of and give them the pliers treatment. Then I check the insides of my pants and shirt plus send both to the wash at night. It's not a foolproof plan but it works for me.
Wow... I had news for you. Since you took those shots to prevent Lyme, the only thing that they did was make it so that you will always come up negative when getting a lyme test. That's why I believe it was taken off the market. People were enraged. There are a few Lyme communities on the net that cover the whole fiasco.
The Government did it because they created the disease. You can only mix animal DNA and vegetable DNA in a lab, not in nature or we might have a funny looking giraffe with excellent wood grain. Many have come forward from the government, military and civilian side to expose this. But the government runs the not free press as well.  It's the scary truth.

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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2019, 09:58:57 AM »
Lymes disease pretty much ruined my life. Took years and years to diagnose then had to go to a Lyme specialist to get help cost me roughly 1000 dollars a month because insurance wouldn't pay. I got it in remission but can no longer work.
I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia,chronic fatigue syndrome and numerous other problems.
I had Lyme disease, Rocky mountain spotted fever, q fever and numerous others that I can't spell (lol)
When I finally got diagnosed I couldn't walk 20 yards without stopping to rest and catch my breath. That was the q fever. That has been fixed but now I'm dealing with constant pain. Muscle and bone and nerve. Constant pain meds allows me to get up and do some stuff a couple hours a day. Look up plum island that is some interesting reading. If anyone needs a good Lyme doctor private message me.

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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2019, 08:06:43 AM »

The Government did it because they created the disease. [...]Many have come forward from the government, military and civilian side to expose this. But the government runs the not free press as well.  It's the scary truth.
I hope this does not get woodshedded for being political, as i am saying this from as politically neutral of a standpoint as possible, and i dont mean it to force my research and opinion on anyone.. Only as something to consider as a counterweight to the quote above.  Feel free to delete this if necessary, i understand it is outside the scope of forestry:



America has enemies that are organized.  They work hard to destabilize it and control it in ways that we do not anticipate.  Infiltrating various media sources and sowing fear, discontent, animosity, distrust and polarization among us directed toward our own government and our own neighbors is a very large portion of that.  Influencing elections is a diversion from the real attack.  


This tick expose you are referencing appears to be based on the book "lab 257" by a wall street investment bank CEO and attorney who has written one book only.  He admitted to the AP that he had no direct evidence of its claims. But its on the today shows book club list and the NYT best seller list. 


The soviet unions signature style has always been, and i mean for about 80 years without a single pause ever, to cultivate protest movements and dissidents made up of citizens from the target nation, and manipulate public opinion against the target nation by proxy that maintains plausible deniability of their involvement.  It is nothing for them to have book after book written to "expose" our corruption and to have legions of whistleblowers and online supporters "come forward" to support it then have the issue ricochet back and forth on the left and right polemical news outlets, which are incredibly effective at making america WANT a civil war.. not uncoincidentally also exactly what our enemies want.




Historically, this soviet style would be to create the issue themselves using recruited american citizens, inject the issue into the target nation, expose it in scandal format and blame our government for creating it then periodically water the memory of the event every few months through continued reminders until it becomes an accepted fact over decades of "expert" reinforcement once the resistance to whatever false information has worn down or passed away.


I dont know where lymes comes from and its unlikely anyone else does either.  Science is a big open minded community that is extremely susceptible to propoganda and manipulation because its very nature of being open minded.   You may recall that before global warming it was the impending doom of a global ice age.  When i was a kid we'd all be burned by acid rain by now.  There was a whole lot of soviet "colleagues" involved in the "research"



Anyways, just something to keep in mind.  Dont believe everything you hear no matter where you hear it, and be slow to anger about what you do actually believe.  Anger is a weakness that clouds our better judgement and works to our enemies advantage.
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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2019, 09:11:58 AM »
Don't forget about the hole in the ozone layer, where we were all to die of terminal sunburn ::).

I am not minimizing the trouble caused by tick borne illness, all are pretty nasty, hard to diagnose, and not isolated to US.

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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2019, 09:59:39 AM »
Yep, first the sky is falling and we are going to get hit in the head and then there is a hole in the sky and we are going to get burned. So be careful where you stand while Henny-Penny is off to tell the king.

In the meantime be careful where you stand and don't go down into any holes behind Foxy-woxy.

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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2019, 10:07:56 AM »
Only as a BTW and not anything conclusive here.. my father in law is in newtown connecticut and did a govt contract roofing job on plum island for an entire summer a year or two ago. He would be the first to latch onto any conspiracy story he heard.  My friends from east lyme connecticut, one a logger who actually has lymes, has never told me that story either.  


The northeast aint got nothin on ticks compared to where i live now, ive had a few hundred blacken my ankle at one time from stepping in a tick bomb.  Thats a whole can o ether buddy.  We have them year round and i buy a lotta ether. 
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2019, 02:07:50 PM »
 where i live now, ive had a few hundred blacken my ankle at one time from stepping in a tick bomb.  
It's good that you stopped to count them.  ::)
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2019, 03:49:51 PM »
Many times we have had our pants leg covered/blackened with seed ticks.  We would take a (preferably) Cedar limb and thrash them off.  Having your pants leg covered with Fire Ants is far worse!!  :o  Either one will make you do a dance.   :-\
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2019, 04:01:37 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2019, 05:54:58 PM »
where i live now, ive had a few hundred blacken my ankle at one time from stepping in a tick bomb.  
It's good that you stopped to count them.  ::)
How else was i gonna know how many i mailed to you gary? Cmon. 
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2019, 06:14:31 PM »
  Science is a big open minded community that is extremely susceptible to propoganda and manipulation because its very nature of being open minded.   You may recall that before global warming it was the impending doom of a global ice age.  When i was a kid we'd all be burned by acid rain by now.  There was a whole lot of soviet "colleagues" involved in the "research"

Science is science. It's fact based, and repeatable. If a study isn't repeatable, it's discarded. Scientists working from "propaganda" aren't doing science, That's pseudoscience, and the province of youtube videos, and one-off studies that get floated on the news. Science is seldom fixed. It's a continuing improvement on our understanding of how the world works. If a prediction was wrong in the past, it isn't a condemnation of the profession. It's fundamentally how science works. Improvements get made based on new evidence, improved technique, and a more thorough understanding of the data.


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