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Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« on: April 29, 2018, 01:34:55 PM »
Hey Guys.... I am trying to decide on which winch to purchase. I am looking at either a Uniforest 85M or a Farmi JL61. I'm wanting to make a decision soon and was just curious if anyone had any feedback on either one. Thanks.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2018, 02:20:08 PM »
I have a uniforest 30 The one thing I don't like is the angle  of the PTO If you raise it up with the pto engaged it will break the shaft at universal. I have broke it 2 times. Other than that it is a good winch. It would be better if it had a hydrolic drive.

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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2018, 03:10:34 PM »
I have a uniforest 30 The one thing I don't like is the angle  of the PTO If you raise it up with the pto engaged it will break the shaft at universal. I have broke it 2 times. Other than that it is a good winch. It would be better if it had a hydrolic drive.
The larger Uniforest winches do not have such a large angle on the PTO shafts.
I have the 35E (predecessor to the 35M) it does have a fairly large angle on the PTO shaft, but it has not been a problem in the 10 years or so that I've owned it. Did you get your PTO shaft cut down to the correct length?
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2018, 03:15:37 PM »
Labradorguy -  I've owned a Uniforest 35E for about 10 years now. The only problem I have had is a kinked cable (not the winch's fault), and a sticking brake release latch (which was solved with a little lube).

When I was shopping for a winch, I was trying to decide between a Uniforest 35E and a Farmi 351. The specs are almost identical. I ended up with the Uniforest because at the time it cost significantly less. I do like the design of the Farmi a bit better, and there is a local dealer who is great for support. The Uniforest has been adequate for my needs, but if I had it to do over again, I would probably buy the Farmi.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2018, 03:48:30 PM »
You will like a 3 pt winch.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2018, 04:05:59 PM »
Might want to get a sand flag or two to mark a place to put down the remote control (if you get the remote control unit version) so if you put the rc unit down in the brush(and do not misplace the unit) while you trim with a chainsaw, unchain logs, answer the sat phone etc
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2018, 07:45:54 PM »
Have a look at the KRPAN. Similar to the Eco-Forest. They actually made the Eco-Forest in the beginning. 
Prices are cheaper too. 

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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 03:31:18 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 04:37:05 PM »
Get the Uniforest it has a Removable trailer hitch.

have you thought of the Wallenstein winch

wish my Farmi JL501 had one.
then i could tow a trailer into the woods to haul back the logs on.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »
Get the Uniforest it has a Removable trailer hitch.

have you thought of the Wallenstein winch

wish my Farmi JL501 had one.
then i could tow a trailer into the woods to haul back the logs on.
I've seen hitches added to a Farmi 351 and a Farmi 501. Unfortunately, I did not look closely at how they did it. I know it involved some welding, and if I recall correctly, it was a 2" receiver, so they could remove the ball and insert if it was in the way.

However, I do agree - it's a shame this is not a factory option on an otherwise top-of-the-line winch.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2018, 10:52:46 PM »
there is a bolt-on 2 inch receiver hitch option for the Farmi 501. do not know how much $$
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2018, 11:55:59 PM »
there is a bolt-on 2 inch receiver hitch option for the Farmi 501. do not know how much $$
Where did you find this?
I could not find that on the Farmi web site. I looked when I saw your earlier post.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2018, 08:01:17 AM »
I'm leaning towards the Uniforest. A few thousand more pull and I like the way the design protects the whole rear end of the tractor. I've heard a lot of good things about the Farmis, but I can't seem to get any info on them. No pricing and no local dealers. That bugs me a bit.... 
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2018, 08:19:15 AM »
I would not be concerned about dealer support.
I have a Norse,and worked it hard for 4 years,big pine. Three feet across was normal. Now I just do my firewood,but use it alot. Never had a bit of trouble with it. I think they are all the same.
Never pull at a sharp angle,you will roll the tractor over. Set brakes and put the loader down,each and every time. Watch the log and the tractor. Logs stops but cable still moving,that means the tractor is not on 4 wheels!!! 
I am always talking about short chains. I finally made some up,4 foot ones,and those get used more than the 8 foot chains. I run 6 chokers and a hook on the end. Sometimes all 7 are used,sometimes only one is used.  All the chockers comes in handy when I have wood to get here and there. I can stop 7 times and pick up 7 trees.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 11:14:19 AM »
there is a bolt-on 2 inch receiver hitch option for the Farmi 501. do not know how much $$
Where did you find this?
I could not find that on the Farmi web site. I looked when I saw your earlier post.
i found out about it when i was researching stroke harvesters.
i can not find it on the Farmi web site either.
in this photo i use one of the choker chains to tow my ATV, after i ratchet the tool box to the ATV
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2018, 11:07:11 PM »
Hey Guys.... I am trying to decide on which winch to purchase. I am looking at either a Uniforest 85M or a Farmi JL61. I'm wanting to make a decision soon and was just curious if anyone had any feedback on either one. Thanks.
I just purchased a Norse 450. Supposed to be here this Friday. L let you know how it is in a few weeks

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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 04:56:37 AM »
You will like it. I like the pivoting butt plate and the higher pulley. We had some big pine here. On some of the brands the pulley was low and it would just about get the log off the ground.
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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2018, 09:35:31 AM »
Its a shame none of the major manufacturers have incorporated multiple height fairlead locations.  Ive done high low medium on two projects now and use all 3 positions on both. 

There is a balancing act between getting the butts as high as possible without flipping the machine.  The higher the fairlead the tippier it is.  But the easier the log will slide. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2018, 03:42:01 PM »
Just bought a new Kioti NX 6010.  60 hp hydro with a 60 wicked root RAKE grapple. Trucking company just called today. Winch coming tomorrow morning. I just sold my ancient two legged farmi. I traded in a Kubota B3200. This Kioti is 3X everything 

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Re: Low Impact Logging- 3pt Winch Decision
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2018, 04:49:54 PM »
Grapple on the front,winch on the back,60hp in between.  8)  

I could use a grapple,but at only 40hp,I feel it's not quite big enough.
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